>https://www.pcgamer.com/elden-rings-smartest-trick-is-scale/

I recall early half-ass reviews of Thief 4 that complained about the
small world size, not realizing -- since they'd only played a few hours
before writing the article -- that new areas begin opening up in a staggered
manner as you reach progress points in the plot. As for ER, I had zero
expectations going in, but the breadth of the world, as per the article,
combined with the depth of the mechanics (weapon stats and moves, buffs,
etc) are pretty darn great. In my playthrough using just melee & bow, I
feel like I've hit a plateau, die a lot, and have only beaten 3 of the
easiest named enemies; but I'm also certain there's a whole system of
upgrades that I haven't even touched. That is the thing about souls games,
that the difficulty & learning curves extend way beyond the norm for other
open world games, in which you fill out a single screen of skill trees and
you're learned all there is. It's great, but also very time-consuming....

rms

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 17:53:48 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>https://www.pcgamer.com/elden-rings-smartest-trick-is-scale/
>
> I recall early half-ass reviews of Thief 4 that complained about the
>small world size, not realizing -- since they'd only played a few hours
>before writing the article -- that new areas begin opening up in a staggered
>manner as you reach progress points in the plot. As for ER, I had zero
>expectations going in, but the breadth of the world, as per the article,
>combined with the depth of the mechanics (weapon stats and moves, buffs,
>etc) are pretty darn great. In my playthrough using just melee & bow, I
>feel like I've hit a plateau, die a lot, and have only beaten 3 of the
>easiest named enemies; but I'm also certain there's a whole system of
>upgrades that I haven't even touched. That is the thing about souls games,
>that the difficulty & learning curves extend way beyond the norm for other
>open world games, in which you fill out a single screen of skill trees and
>you're learned all there is. It's great, but also very time-consuming....
>
>rms

*--

I am not letting it get to me like I did Dark Souls 3.

I am in a cave with a pack of wolves. I am a Confessor.

Just when I think I got them all, I die. And again. And again.

But it is not bothering me, at least not yet. In this one, I think I
may have a chance!

It may be too early in ghe game for me to stand a chance against them,
but I keep trying! Maybe I will get tired of it later on but I think
the open world, more opportunites and more "checkpoints" are letting
me not give up!

At least I have things to practice on!

-pw

>I am in a cave with a pack of wolves. I am a Confessor.

You bought a torch I hope, that will help illuminate it, and sets the
wolves on fire too :)

rms

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:16:24 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
> >I am in a cave with a pack of wolves. I am a Confessor.
>
> You bought a torch I hope, that will help illuminate it, and sets the
> wolves on fire too :)

I agree on the torch. It's not great damage and it's a bit slow, but the
other early option is using it instead of a shield, which is a bad idea
against those.

I found that particular cave a bit much right off, I'd stick to the soldiers
and explore elsewhere until you've upgraded a bit and have a bit of an
arsenal of weapons/spells to try on them. Some weapons do much better
than others against wolves/dogs, typically ones with lots of reach, fast and
sweeping or poking attacks. Using leap attack can also help. You can
also try backing up and after the first two attacks let them hit your shield
on the their 3rd attack so you can get a guard attack. Circling can help,
but that cave is a bit tight for that. Something ranged to pull them one
at a time helps too.

It's much easier co-op.

- Justisaur

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 23:16:21 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>I am in a cave with a pack of wolves. I am a Confessor.
>
> You bought a torch I hope, that will help illuminate it, and sets the
>wolves on fire too :)
>
>rms

*--

I am a few bits shy of what is needed to buy a torch. I guess I will
have to kill another sentry outside the church. I managed to knock
off a couple. When I pillaged them a torch was not part of the
inventory. I spent the money on a cookbook and pot.

They keep repopulating so I will die a couple of times but eventually
win out. Then visit Santa Claus again.

Thanks,

-pw

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 04:31:24 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:16:24 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
>> >I am in a cave with a pack of wolves. I am a Confessor.
>>
>> You bought a torch I hope, that will help illuminate it, and sets the
>> wolves on fire too :)
>
>I agree on the torch. It's not great damage and it's a bit slow, but the
>other early option is using it instead of a shield, which is a bad idea
>against those.
>
>I found that particular cave a bit much right off, I'd stick to the soldiers
>and explore elsewhere until you've upgraded a bit and have a bit of an
>arsenal of weapons/spells to try on them. Some weapons do much better
>than others against wolves/dogs, typically ones with lots of reach, fast and
>sweeping or poking attacks. Using leap attack can also help. You can
>also try backing up and after the first two attacks let them hit your shield
>on the their 3rd attack so you can get a guard attack. Circling can help,
>but that cave is a bit tight for that. Something ranged to pull them one
>at a time helps too.
>
>It's much easier co-op.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

I have tried to get them in a narrow part so they can't surround me so
easily. Also along an edge but I fell off one time and got eaten
alive by the pack.

I don't like how some of them seem still alive after I kill them. I
don't like to even see fake one's suffer. If I am watching an old
western and there is a dog or wolf in it, I sometimes fast forward
through that part :-)

Killing wolves is legal where I live but I am no rancher and have no
livestock. I sort of do like how that is driving the wolf watchers
and activists crazy in Yellowstone Park ;-)

-pw

Now I am thinking that maybe I should have started with a class that
would be good for on-line play instead of a Confessor. Nah! :-)

-pw

Hey guys - I started off as a Confessor. It comes with two
incarnations. How do I use them? I think most classes need something
to be able to use them, but I think a Confessor comes with one. A
seal, I think it is called.

Also, I need to upgrade Dexterity, Arcane, and Faith. How do I do
that? I think it costs money so I haven't been able to do that yet at
a Site of Grace.

-pw

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:15:58 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> Hey guys - I started off as a Confessor. It comes with two
> incarnations. How do I use them? I think most classes need something
> to be able to use them, but I think a Confessor comes with one. A
> seal, I think it is called.
>
> Also, I need to upgrade Dexterity, Arcane, and Faith. How do I do
> that? I think it costs money so I haven't been able to do that yet at
> a Site of Grace.
>
> -pw

I think it puts the finger seal in the shield slot, you swap with the
left d-pad between them (the cross thing on the controller, press
the left part of it.)

After it's in hand you press the left light attack button to cast.

If it's in your right hand or you move it there then it uses the right
attack button to cast.

- Justisaur

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:00:02 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 04:31:24 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
> <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:16:24 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
> >> >I am in a cave with a pack of wolves. I am a Confessor.
> >>
> >> You bought a torch I hope, that will help illuminate it, and sets the
> >> wolves on fire too :)
> >
> >I agree on the torch. It's not great damage and it's a bit slow, but the
> >other early option is using it instead of a shield, which is a bad idea
> >against those.
> >
> >I found that particular cave a bit much right off, I'd stick to the soldiers
> >and explore elsewhere until you've upgraded a bit and have a bit of an
> >arsenal of weapons/spells to try on them. Some weapons do much better
> >than others against wolves/dogs, typically ones with lots of reach, fast and
> >sweeping or poking attacks. Using leap attack can also help. You can
> >also try backing up and after the first two attacks let them hit your shield
> >on the their 3rd attack so you can get a guard attack. Circling can help,
> >but that cave is a bit tight for that. Something ranged to pull them one
> >at a time helps too.
> >
> >It's much easier co-op.
> >
> >- Justisaur
> *--
>
> I have tried to get them in a narrow part so they can't surround me so
> easily. Also along an edge but I fell off one time and got eaten
> alive by the pack.
>
> I don't like how some of them seem still alive after I kill them. I
> don't like to even see fake one's suffer. If I am watching an old
> western and there is a dog or wolf in it, I sometimes fast forward
> through that part :-)

If it's any help, It's been speculated everything still moving is
undead in souls series. All the wolves wouldn't keep coming
back after you died if they weren't.

The fact you get 'runes' from them on their 'death' also seems
to indicate that.

There's always the possibility they're evil spirits that have taken
the form of wolves - fairly common in myth too.

P.S.

I forgot to mention you want to avoid anything underground
until you get your own spirit wolves, as there's almost always
a boss that you can summon them (or other spirits) to help
with and they're balanced for using either co-op or summons.

Unfortunately only the boss, you have to get through the
rest of the dungeons without help unless co-op. I really wish
they would allow you to use the summons anywhere you
could co-op. I'm having trouble finding co-op people now that
I'm past the newbie area.

Go looking for graces on the surface, once you have your
horse, go back to the first merchant wearing a Santa suit,
agree with the nice lady that shows up to get the spirit
wolves.

- Justisaur

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:05:45 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> Now I am thinking that maybe I should have started with a class that
> would be good for on-line play instead of a Confessor. Nah! :-)

They're all fine for on-line play, in fact I'd say spellcasters do better
online because it's easier to cast spells with someone distracting
mobs.

- Justisaur

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:03:48 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:00:02 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 04:31:24 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
>> <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:16:24 PM UTC-7, rms wrote:
>> >> >I am in a cave with a pack of wolves. I am a Confessor.
>> >>
>> >> You bought a torch I hope, that will help illuminate it, and sets the
>> >> wolves on fire too :)
>> >
>> >I agree on the torch. It's not great damage and it's a bit slow, but the
>> >other early option is using it instead of a shield, which is a bad idea
>> >against those.
>> >
>> >I found that particular cave a bit much right off, I'd stick to the soldiers
>> >and explore elsewhere until you've upgraded a bit and have a bit of an
>> >arsenal of weapons/spells to try on them. Some weapons do much better
>> >than others against wolves/dogs, typically ones with lots of reach, fast and
>> >sweeping or poking attacks. Using leap attack can also help. You can
>> >also try backing up and after the first two attacks let them hit your shield
>> >on the their 3rd attack so you can get a guard attack. Circling can help,
>> >but that cave is a bit tight for that. Something ranged to pull them one
>> >at a time helps too.
>> >
>> >It's much easier co-op.
>> >
>> >- Justisaur
>> *--
>>
>> I have tried to get them in a narrow part so they can't surround me so
>> easily. Also along an edge but I fell off one time and got eaten
>> alive by the pack.
>>
>> I don't like how some of them seem still alive after I kill them. I
>> don't like to even see fake one's suffer. If I am watching an old
>> western and there is a dog or wolf in it, I sometimes fast forward
>> through that part :-)
>
>If it's any help, It's been speculated everything still moving is
>undead in souls series. All the wolves wouldn't keep coming
>back after you died if they weren't.
>
>The fact you get 'runes' from them on their 'death' also seems
>to indicate that.
>
>There's always the possibility they're evil spirits that have taken
>the form of wolves - fairly common in myth too.
>
>P.S.
>
>I forgot to mention you want to avoid anything underground
>until you get your own spirit wolves, as there's almost always
>a boss that you can summon them (or other spirits) to help
>with and they're balanced for using either co-op or summons.
>
>Unfortunately only the boss, you have to get through the
>rest of the dungeons without help unless co-op. I really wish
>they would allow you to use the summons anywhere you
>could co-op. I'm having trouble finding co-op people now that
>I'm past the newbie area.
>
>Go looking for graces on the surface, once you have your
>horse, go back to the first merchant wearing a Santa suit,
>agree with the nice lady that shows up to get the spirit
>wolves.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

All right, all right. All new to me! :-)

Summons, boss, newbie area, spirit wolves (especially - whatever they
are)....

I will stay away from the underground. I made the mistake of going
through the green fog in the cave and was instantly killed by some
huge creature. Thankfully, my stuff was left outside the entrance and
I just had to kill the wolves to go back and get it. I did finally
kill them all but I assume they will be back if I go back there.

The guards on duty and the one praying are now a piece of cake so
I am learning something! :-)

Thanks,

-pw

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:05:33 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:05:45 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> Now I am thinking that maybe I should have started with a class that
>> would be good for on-line play instead of a Confessor. Nah! :-)
>
>They're all fine for on-line play, in fact I'd say spellcasters do better
>online because it's easier to cast spells with someone distracting
>mobs.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

Good. But I think it is going to be a *long* time before I figure I
can contribute anything.

Does playing on-line mess up my single player progress? Is it one or
the other?

-pw

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:15:58 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> Hey guys - I started off as a Confessor. It comes with two
>> incarnations. How do I use them? I think most classes need something
>> to be able to use them, but I think a Confessor comes with one. A
>> seal, I think it is called.
>>
>> Also, I need to upgrade Dexterity, Arcane, and Faith. How do I do
>> that? I think it costs money so I haven't been able to do that yet at
>> a Site of Grace.
>>
>> -pw
>
>I think it puts the finger seal in the shield slot, you swap with the
>left d-pad between them (the cross thing on the controller, press
>the left part of it.)
>
>After it's in hand you press the left light attack button to cast.
>
>If it's in your right hand or you move it there then it uses the right
>attack button to cast.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

I am playing with the keyboard and mouse. It works SO much better in
this one than DS3! Except the camera gets me killed once in a while.
I am going to stick with the KB and mouse. Feels comfortable.

-pw

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 7:42:30 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:05:33 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
> <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:05:45 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> >> Now I am thinking that maybe I should have started with a class that
> >> would be good for on-line play instead of a Confessor. Nah! :-)
> >
> >They're all fine for on-line play, in fact I'd say spellcasters do better
> >online because it's easier to cast spells with someone distracting
> >mobs.
> >
> >- Justisaur
> *--
>
> Good. But I think it is going to be a *long* time before I figure I
> can contribute anything.
>
> Does playing on-line mess up my single player progress? Is it one or
> the other?

No. You stay in your game when you summon someone.

You use a 'furlcalling finger remedy' to see signs, typically they'll
be near a summoning pool which looks like a small idle/cross of a
person doing a y pose. Once you see signs (gold messages) you'll
get a prompt to look at them and if you want to summon them.

Using a one of those fingers opens you up to PVP too though.
Usually you have a pretty good chance as you'll be able to summon
one or two people if that does happen. I didn't see much invasions
at lower level though.

To be summoned you put down a sign with a 'tarnished's furled
finger' For being summoned you share in any runes gotten from kills,
and you'll get a special item if you help kill a boss, which ends
your co-op session. Any progress you make in someone elses
game doesn't affect yours other than the runes and crafting
items you pick up. You get your own instance of the items
so it doesn't affect the other persons.

There's a bit more options, but that's the basics.

- Justisaur

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 7:40:59 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> I will stay away from the underground. I made the mistake of going
> through the green fog in the cave and was instantly killed by some
> huge creature. Thankfully, my stuff was left outside the entrance and
> I just had to kill the wolves to go back and get it. I did finally
> kill them all but I assume they will be back if I go back there.

Great on killing the wolves!

> The guards on duty and the one praying are now a piece of cake so
> I am learning something! :-)

I'd head toward the obelisk NE that shows where the area map is, there's
a couple graces near there. Once you rest at one or both (I forget) you
should get your horse, then you can head back to the merchant
for the lady that gives you the 'lone wolves' spirit summon.

The map itself is heavily guarded, but once you have the horse you
can ride through and pick it up, or try to thin out the mobs via
stealth or whatnot, there's a couple weapons and other treasure
there too. There's a knight there that's a bit tough, but
if you can pull him out you might be able to kill him.

I don't remember if you can use your wolves there, but if you
can there's a bit too many mobs and you probably want to
thin out loners as much as you can first.

- Justisaur

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 7:44:05 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:

> I am playing with the keyboard and mouse. It works SO much better in
> this one than DS3! Except the camera gets me killed once in a while.
> I am going to stick with the KB and mouse. Feels comfortable.

I had started with KBM, but I found it pretty sluggish, that may
have been more the old video card, but it seemed less so
with the controller. I'm probably a bit too used to the
controller now to switch back.

Yeah, camera is unfortunately one of the things I dislike about
these games, and often I found the camera a bigger enemy than
the mobs.

- Justisaur

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 22:26:22 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 7:40:59 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> I will stay away from the underground. I made the mistake of going
>> through the green fog in the cave and was instantly killed by some
>> huge creature. Thankfully, my stuff was left outside the entrance and
>> I just had to kill the wolves to go back and get it. I did finally
>> kill them all but I assume they will be back if I go back there.
>
>Great on killing the wolves!
>
>> The guards on duty and the one praying are now a piece of cake so
>> I am learning something! :-)
>
>I'd head toward the obelisk NE that shows where the area map is, there's
>a couple graces near there. Once you rest at one or both (I forget) you
>should get your horse, then you can head back to the merchant
>for the lady that gives you the 'lone wolves' spirit summon.
>
>The map itself is heavily guarded, but once you have the horse you
>can ride through and pick it up, or try to thin out the mobs via
>stealth or whatnot, there's a couple weapons and other treasure
>there too. There's a knight there that's a bit tough, but
>if you can pull him out you might be able to kill him.
>
>I don't remember if you can use your wolves there, but if you
>can there's a bit too many mobs and you probably want to
>thin out loners as much as you can first.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

Okay, I got the horse. I guess I will head back to the old church
with santa clause the merchant now. looks pretty overwhelming where I
got it any way. Lots of guards that I don't think I am good enough to
take care of.

I keep hearing a voice accusing me that I don't see him but I don't
see anything. I got killed by some zombie looking thing with a torch,
then a few more went after me and killed me. I had to go back and get
my stuff before I died again since I lost my horse whistle.

I still can't figure out to use the urgent heal. hopefully it will
help me heal so I don't die so easily. Or how to put the steed
whistle in my pocket or quickbar (what/where is that?).

-pw

On Wednesday, March 23, 2022 at 8:44:17 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 22:26:22 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
> <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 7:40:59 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> >> I will stay away from the underground. I made the mistake of going
> >> through the green fog in the cave and was instantly killed by some
> >> huge creature. Thankfully, my stuff was left outside the entrance and
> >> I just had to kill the wolves to go back and get it. I did finally
> >> kill them all but I assume they will be back if I go back there.
> >
> >Great on killing the wolves!
> >
> >> The guards on duty and the one praying are now a piece of cake so
> >> I am learning something! :-)
> >
> >I'd head toward the obelisk NE that shows where the area map is, there's
> >a couple graces near there. Once you rest at one or both (I forget) you
> >should get your horse, then you can head back to the merchant
> >for the lady that gives you the 'lone wolves' spirit summon.
> >
> >The map itself is heavily guarded, but once you have the horse you
> >can ride through and pick it up, or try to thin out the mobs via
> >stealth or whatnot, there's a couple weapons and other treasure
> >there too. There's a knight there that's a bit tough, but
> >if you can pull him out you might be able to kill him.
> >
> >I don't remember if you can use your wolves there, but if you
> >can there's a bit too many mobs and you probably want to
> >thin out loners as much as you can first.
> >
> >- Justisaur
> *--
>
> Okay, I got the horse. I guess I will head back to the old church
> with santa clause the merchant now. looks pretty overwhelming where I
> got it any way. Lots of guards that I don't think I am good enough to
> take care of.
>
> I keep hearing a voice accusing me that I don't see him but I don't
> see anything.

That's a puzzle of sorts. You can look up a spoiler for it if you want.
I don't think it's terribly important from what I've seen so far if
don't want to bother.

> I got killed by some zombie looking thing with a torch,
> then a few more went after me and killed me.

The torch guys are annoying especially on horseback. You
may want to dismount to deal with them or shoot them
with something ranged. Engaging them on horseback will
usually result in them knocking your horse out from under you. At
least unless you catch them unawares or get really good at mounted
combat. When you get your horse knocked out from under you get
stunned a good while while getting up and typically get piled on and
may be killed before you can even get up.

> I had to go back and get
> my stuff before I died again since I lost my horse whistle.

The horse whistle will stay with you, it's in your inventory
somewhere.

> I still can't figure out to use the urgent heal. hopefully it will
> help me heal so I don't die so easily.

Looks like it's up arrow to change your spell, which you can
see what's selected in the hud. You need the finger seal
in hand. Left & right arrows change which weapon/shield
you're wielding.

That reminds me, you might want to go through the settings
and turn HUD always on. I know it's more cinematic, but I was
far too often wanting to know my health, what weapons and
spell I had selected etc. when it wasn't showing.

> Or how to put the steed
> whistle in my pocket or quickbar (what/where is that?).

Menu button (looks to default to holding down E)
* The quick pouch is on the upper right.
* The items slots you have to go into equipment from the
menu bar, then the items are underneath the right and left
weapon slots. Once you've got various items in them the
selected item can be changed with down arrow on the
keyboard.

- Justisaur

>> I keep hearing a voice accusing me that I don't see him but I don't
>> see anything.
>
>That's a puzzle of sorts. You can look up a spoiler for it if you want.
>I don't think it's terribly important from what I've seen so far if
>don't want to bother.

I ignored the voice.

>
>> I got killed by some zombie looking thing with a torch,
>> then a few more went after me and killed me.
>
>The torch guys are annoying especially on horseback. You
>may want to dismount to deal with them or shoot them
>with something ranged. Engaging them on horseback will
>usually result in them knocking your horse out from under you. At
>least unless you catch them unawares or get really good at mounted
>combat. When you get your horse knocked out from under you get
>stunned a good while while getting up and typically get piled on and
>may be killed before you can even get up.
>

That is what they did (gang up on me) and what happened (knocked my
off the horse).

>> I had to go back and get
>> my stuff before I died again since I lost my horse whistle.
>
>The horse whistle will stay with you, it's in your inventory
>somewhere.
>

It was in the inventory, but disabled. I had to go get everything for
it to be enabled.

>> I still can't figure out to use the urgent heal. hopefully it will
>> help me heal so I don't die so easily.
>
>Looks like it's up arrow to change your spell, which you can
>see what's selected in the hud. You need the finger seal
>in hand. Left & right arrows change which weapon/shield
>you're wielding.
>
>That reminds me, you might want to go through the settings
>and turn HUD always on. I know it's more cinematic, but I was
>far too often wanting to know my health, what weapons and
>spell I had selected etc. when it wasn't showing.
>
>> Or how to put the steed
>> whistle in my pocket or quickbar (what/where is that?).
>
>Menu button (looks to default to holding down E)
>* The quick pouch is on the upper right.
>* The items slots you have to go into equipment from the
>menu bar, then the items are underneath the right and left
>weapon slots. Once you've got various items in them the
>selected item can be changed with down arrow on the
>keyboard.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

Thanks for remembering that I am using the keyboard!

I will try your tips tonight!

-pw

I guess I should start finding and make my way to the rountable hold
but I may not be ready yet.

I also need to get down the basic operations, etc...

-pw

I have to stop printing things out. I am going to have to buy another
toner cartridge soon because of this game!

I am afraid to do anything wrong because of hard DS3 was! :-)

>
>That reminds me, you might want to go through the settings
>and turn HUD always on. I know it's more cinematic, but I was
>far too often wanting to know my health, what weapons and
>spell I had selected etc. when it wasn't showing.

I did it!

>
>> Or how to put the steed
>> whistle in my pocket or quickbar (what/where is that?).

I put it in the quickbar (?). It is in the down arrow. Since it is
not a left or right mouse button, how do I use what is in the up arrow
and down arrow slots?

I can't call my horse!

-pw
>
>Menu button (looks to default to holding down E)
>* The quick pouch is on the upper right.
>* The items slots you have to go into equipment from the
>menu bar, then the items are underneath the right and left
>weapon slots. Once you've got various items in them the
>selected item can be changed with down arrow on the
>keyboard.
>
>- Justisaur

I think I should put the whistle in the pouch but I don't know which
slots in the equipment are for the pouch. The whistle went into the
quick item arrow slots. I know that to access the pouch it is E + an
arrow.

I will try highlighting an item and then press E to use it.

Thanks,

-pw

On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 8:31:42 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> I think I should put the whistle in the pouch but I don't know which
> slots in the equipment are for the pouch. The whistle went into the
> quick item arrow slots. I know that to access the pouch it is E + an
> arrow.
>
> I will try highlighting an item and then press E to use it.

It looks like you can hold down E and press the down arrow.

You may want to remap it to number slots. I found an article on the
PC controls that looks helpful:

https://vulkk.com/2022/02/26/elden-ring-pc-and-console-controls-guide-and-lists/

- Justisaur