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 by: Siri Cruise - Tue, 17 May 2022 03:31 UTC

In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:

> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?

Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
behaviour.

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Re: When The GOP Came For The First Amendement

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 by: Rudy Canoza - Tue, 17 May 2022 03:04 UTC

On 5/16/2022 8:01 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 5/16/22 21:36, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "25.BX945" <25BZ495@nada.net> wrote in
>> news:b96dnQGPhcRClR7_nZ2dnUU7-WXNnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>
>>> On 5/16/22 8:10 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On 16 May 2022 23:31:50 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signs bill banning "picketing
>>>>> | and protesting" outside a private residence
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/protests-roe-v-wade-homes-florida-ron-d
>>>>> esantis-ban/>
>>>>>
>>>>>      --bks
>>>>>
>>>>> May 2022: The month that "Libertarians" were exposed.
>>>>
>>>> Good for DeSantis.
>>>
>>>     It's not an ideal law - but, in the current climate, it
>>>     has become NECESSARY. Those lefty "protestors"/"demonstrators"
>>>     aren't "peaceful" anymore - they're out to intimidate, to
>>>     to *terrorize*.
>>>
>>>     What is "terrorism" ?
>>
>>
>>       Terrorism is the supporters of
>> "pro-life" bombing health care clinics
>> and shooting doctors in the back.
>>
>>       But you knew that already, right?
>
> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>

There is no comparison. The pro-choice left harasses its opponents. The
anti-choice right kills its opponents and burns their buildings down.

No comparison.

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 by: David Hartung - Tue, 17 May 2022 03:01 UTC

On 5/16/22 21:36, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "25.BX945" <25BZ495@nada.net> wrote in
> news:b96dnQGPhcRClR7_nZ2dnUU7-WXNnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>
>> On 5/16/22 8:10 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On 16 May 2022 23:31:50 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> |
>>>> | Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signs bill banning "picketing
>>>> | and protesting" outside a private residence
>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/protests-roe-v-wade-homes-florida-ron-d
>>>> esantis-ban/>
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>>
>>>> May 2022: The month that "Libertarians" were exposed.
>>>
>>> Good for DeSantis.
>>
>> It's not an ideal law - but, in the current climate, it
>> has become NECESSARY. Those lefty "protestors"/"demonstrators"
>> aren't "peaceful" anymore - they're out to intimidate, to
>> to *terrorize*.
>>
>> What is "terrorism" ?
>
>
> Terrorism is the supporters of
> "pro-life" bombing health care clinics
> and shooting doctors in the back.
>
> But you knew that already, right?

Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Tue, 17 May 2022 08:12 UTC

On Mon, 16 May 2022 22:30:54 -0400, "25.BX945" <25BZ495@nada.net>
wrote:

>On 5/16/22 8:10 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On 16 May 2022 23:31:50 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> |
>>> | Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signs bill banning "picketing
>>> | and protesting" outside a private residence
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/protests-roe-v-wade-homes-florida-ron-desantis-ban/>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>>
>>> May 2022: The month that "Libertarians" were exposed.
>>
>> Good for DeSantis.
>
> It's not an ideal law - but, in the current climate, it
> has become NECESSARY. Those lefty "protestors"/"demonstrators"
> aren't "peaceful" anymore - they're out to intimidate, to
> to *terrorize*.
>
> What is "terrorism" ? Kinda like porn - you can't exactly
> define it, but you know it when you see it. This law gets
> around the "can't exactly define it" problem.
>
> BUT, if the political climate moderates ... if ... then
> this law should be modified or withdrawn. Think of it
> as a Title-42 fix for a citizenry currently infected
> with ideological rabies.
>
> As for who's "after" the 1st amendment - look no further
> than Joes Thought Police / Ministry Of Truth ...... wow.

It's like the creeps that scream "say his name." How close do they
have to get to your face before you push them away and yell "fuck
George Floyd."

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Tue, 17 May 2022 08:22 UTC

On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:31:39 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>
>Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
>behaviour.

Peaceful is fine. Harassment is not.

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 by: David Hartung - Tue, 17 May 2022 09:37 UTC

On 5/16/22 22:31, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>
> Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
> behaviour.

If the protestors are on private property, they are tresspassing. If
they are in the street they are impeading the flow of traffic. To
rational people both actions are not peaceful assembly.

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 by: NoBody - Tue, 17 May 2022 11:10 UTC

On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:31:39 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>
>Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
>behaviour.

Harrassment *is* an illegal behavior.

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 by: Yak - Tue, 17 May 2022 11:13 UTC

On 5/16/22 11:31 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>
> Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
> behaviour.

That's not what the DeSantis bill is attempting to preclude. One look at
the bill makes it clear.

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 by: Siri Cruise - Tue, 17 May 2022 11:37 UTC

In article <M5ydnTbBKqNN8R7_nZ2dnUU7-RnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/16/22 22:31, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> > David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
> >
> > Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
> > behaviour.
>
> If the protestors are on private property, they are tresspassing. If
> they are in the street they are impeading the flow of traffic. To

Find out what 'peaceful assembly' means.

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 by: Rudy Canoza - Tue, 17 May 2022 13:53 UTC

On 5/17/2022 2:37 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 5/16/22 22:31, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>   David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>>
>> Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
>> behaviour.
>
> If the protestors are on private property,

They aren't.

> they are tresspassing. If they are in
> the street they are impeading [sic]

*Impeding*, you illiterate shitbag.

> the flow of traffic.

They aren't. They're on the sidewalk if there is one, and at the side of the
road otherwise, where they have a *right* to be if there is no sidewalk.

The law is unconstitutional and will be overturned.

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 by: David Hartung - Tue, 17 May 2022 14:34 UTC

On 5/17/22 08:53, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 5/17/2022 2:37 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 5/16/22 22:31, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>   David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from
>>>> another?
>>>
>>> Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
>>> behaviour.
>>
>> If the protestors are on private property,
>
> They aren't.
>
>> they are tresspassing. If they are in the street they are impeading [sic]
>
> *Impeding*, you illiterate shitbag.
>
>
>> the flow of traffic.
>
> They aren't.  They're on the sidewalk if there is one, and at the side
> of the road otherwise,

In many residential neighborhoods there is no sidewalk and the private
lot extends directly to the curb. The demonstrators have a choice of
trespassing or demonstrating on the public street and likely impeding
traffic in the process.

> where they have a *right* to be if there is no
> sidewalk.

There is no right to impede the flow of traffic on apublic street,
unless one has obtained a "parade" permit.
>
> The law is unconstitutional and will be overturned.

Once again, don't hold your breath.

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 by: Rudy Canoza - Tue, 17 May 2022 14:40 UTC

On 5/17/2022 7:34 AM, David Hartung, filthy lying philandering white
supremacist, lied:
> On 5/17/22 08:53, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 5/17/2022 2:37 AM, David Hartung, filthy lying philandering white supremacist, lied:
>>> On 5/16/22 22:31, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>> In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>   David Hartung, filthy lying philandering white supremacist, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>>>>
>>>> Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
>>>> behaviour.
>>>
>>> If the protestors are on private property,
>>
>> They aren't.
>>
>>> they are tresspassing. If they are in the street they are impeading [sic]
>>
>> *Impeding*, you illiterate shitbag.
>>
>>
>>> the flow of traffic.
>>
>> They aren't.  They're on the sidewalk if there is one, and at the side of the
>> road otherwise,
>
> In many residential neighborhoods there is no sidewalk and

Then pedestrians are *permitted* to stand at the side of the road, on the roadway.

>
>> where they have a *right* to be if there is no sidewalk.
>
> There is no right to impede the flow of traffic

They aren't.

>>
>> The law is unconstitutional and will be overturned.
>
> Once again,

Bet on it, you philandering liar.

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 by: Siri Cruise - Tue, 17 May 2022 16:11 UTC

In article <QP6dnZ7Wc6wdLx7_nZ2dnUU7-QnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:

> There is no right to impede the flow of traffic on apublic street,
> unless one has obtained a "parade" permit.

Modern states--Florida excepted? Have laws against blocking a
right of way. So why do they need another law?

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 by: Rudy Canoza - Tue, 17 May 2022 16:21 UTC

On 5/17/2022 7:34 AM, David Hartung, filthy lying philandering white
supremacist, lied:

> On 5/17/22 08:53, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 5/17/2022 2:37 AM, David Hartung, filthy lying philandering white supremacist, lied:
>>> On 5/16/22 22:31, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>> In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>   David Hartung, filthy lying philandering white supremacist, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>>>>
>>>> Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
>>>> behaviour.
>>>
>>> If the protestors are on private property,
>>
>> They aren't.
>>
>>> they are tresspassing. If they are in the street they are impeading [sic]
>>
>> *Impeding*, you illiterate shitbag.
>>
>>
>>> the flow of traffic.
>>
>> They aren't.  They're on the sidewalk if there is one, and at the side of the
>> road otherwise, where they have a *right* to be if there is no sidewalk.
>
> There is no right to impede the flow of traffic on apublic street,

That's not what this bill is about. Florida already has laws dealing with
blocking traffic. This speech suppression bill has nothing to do with blocking
traffic. Fuck off.

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 by: 25.BX945 - Wed, 18 May 2022 01:29 UTC

On 5/17/22 4:22 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:31:39 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <yf2dnYA_acxqkh7_nZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Illegal behavior from one group justifies illegal behavior from another?
>>
>> Peaceful assembly is not an illegal behaviour. It is a protected
>> behaviour.
>
> Peaceful is fine. Harassment is not.

Very fuzzy lines there ... if they're protesting YOU
then it's "harassment", if you're protesting THEM
then it's "peaceful" :-)

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