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Am 16.07.2021 um 08:25 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
> https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327
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https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

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On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
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>Am 16.07.2021 um 08:25 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>> https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327
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>>
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>
>https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/

It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
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 by: Venus as a Boy - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 18:31 UTC

Am 16.07.2021 um 20:30 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
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>> Am 16.07.2021 um 08:25 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>> https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327
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>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/
>
> It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
> longer if ever.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 18:43 UTC

Am 16.07.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
> Am 16.07.2021 um 20:30 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
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>>> Am 16.07.2021 um 08:25 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>>> https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327
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>>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/
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>>
>> It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
>> longer if ever.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/
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 by: aye - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:22 UTC

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:43:18 +0200, Venus as a Boy wrote:
>Am 16.07.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>> Am 16.07.2021 um 20:30 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 16.07.2021 um 08:25 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>>>> https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327
>>>>
>>>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/
>>>
>>> It takes 20 minutes to read it,

Aye. Didn't read it.

>>>but the debunking will take much longer if ever.
The debunking of the debunking?

>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/

<< Breaking news Friday morning, June 25, reveals that Matt Hancock
has been having a secret affair with his aide Gina Coladangelo. We
imagine it’s all the nation is talking about since the images of
Hancock embracing the millionaire lobbyist were released, it’s
certainly all over the media and we doubt it will stop being front
page news anytime soon. >>

Sounds sensational.

>https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/114031401/posts/3449237394

The link above didn't do any Ting for me.

- hm3

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 by: % - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:21 UTC

On 2021-07-17 7:22 a.m., aye wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:43:18 +0200, Venus as a Boy wrote:
>> Am 16.07.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>> Am 16.07.2021 um 20:30 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>>>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 16.07.2021 um 08:25 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>>>>> https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327
>>>>>
>>>>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/
>>>>
>>>> It takes 20 minutes to read it,
>
> Aye. Didn't read it.
>
>>>> but the debunking will take much longer if ever.
>
> The debunking of the debunking?
>
>>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/
>
> << Breaking news Friday morning, June 25, reveals that Matt Hancock
> has been having a secret affair with his aide Gina Coladangelo. We
> imagine it’s all the nation is talking about since the images of
> Hancock embracing the millionaire lobbyist were released, it’s
> certainly all over the media and we doubt it will stop being front
> page news anytime soon. >>
>
> Sounds sensational.
>
>> https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/114031401/posts/3449237394
>
> The link above didn't do any Ting for me.
>
> - hm3
>
i didn't even look at it

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 by: one - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:52 UTC

% wrote:

>i didn't even look at it

Can you keep from watching a train
of thought wreck?

Once up
on a time within time,
a yard was where scraps, heaps in fact
of many boxed cars of thought
and cans of worms were.

Frogs in the boxes
of the many thoughts escaped all
notice until they were wanted
dead ore and alive they being
of an order, Anura, were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog

Do boxes, box cars of thought contain
memes, a virus, a truck-load of media.

How to oar such phenomena.

One may wonder, at times beyond time.

- hm3

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 02:35 UTC

Am 16.07.2021 um 20:43 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
> Am 16.07.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>> Am 16.07.2021 um 20:30 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 16.07.2021 um 08:25 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>>>> https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/
>>>>
>>>
>>> It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
>>> longer if ever.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
>>
>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/
>>
>>
>
> https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/114031401/posts/3449237394
>

Interesting article on longterm effects of the covid vaccine:

https://rairfoundation.com/mit-scientist-covid-vaccines-may-cause-diseases-in-10-to-15-years-exclusive-video/

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From: liberti...@south.south.com (o'Mahoney)
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 by: o'Mahoney - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 07:52 UTC

This old cunt is talking about mRNA vaccines, not the carrier type,
which is old tech, like AZ Vx.

I wouldn't call her authoritative, however she *does* have a point
about the new tech in that it hasn't really undergone proper trialling
due to the "emergency" pandemic protocols.

I and my wife refused Pfizer and have had AZ Vx because we don't wish
to be part of a huge experimental base which could have significant
issues downstream. AZ Vx is traditional carrier Vx - dead protein
carried by denatured adenovirus in the usual way, a la flu vaccine
etc.

So far, so good....

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 04:35:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 16.07.2021 um 20:43 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>> Am 16.07.2021 um 20:31 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>> Am 16.07.2021 um 20:30 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:08:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>>>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 16.07.2021 um 08:25 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>>>>> https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/the-prevailing-corona-nonsense-narrative-debunked-in-10-or-26-minutes/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It takes 20 minutes to read it, but the debunking will take much
>>>> longer if ever.
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>>
>>>
>>> https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/07/16/england-67-of-covid-deaths-are-of-vaccinees-according-to-the-british-press/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/114031401/posts/3449237394
>>
>
>Interesting article on longterm effects of the covid vaccine:
>
>https://rairfoundation.com/mit-scientist-covid-vaccines-may-cause-diseases-in-10-to-15-years-exclusive-video/
"Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man,
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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 15:41 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 09:52 schrieb o'Mahoney:
> This old cunt is talking about mRNA vaccines, not the carrier type,
> which is old tech, like AZ Vx.
>
> I wouldn't call her authoritative, however she *does* have a point
> about the new tech in that it hasn't really undergone proper trialling
> due to the "emergency" pandemic protocols.
>
> I and my wife refused Pfizer and have had AZ Vx because we don't wish
> to be part of a huge experimental base which could have significant
> issues downstream. AZ Vx is traditional carrier Vx - dead protein
> carried by denatured adenovirus in the usual way, a la flu vaccine
> etc.
>
What you refer to is AZ's vector vaccines in which an adovenovirus is
injecting the mRNA of the coronavirus as "opposed" to "pure" mRNA
vaccines, which is almost the same, but the joke is the vector vaccine
seem to make it obvious that we are vaccinated with a disease!
(The pharmamaphia though claim that the mRNA gets destroyed before being
integrated into the cellcore. Is there somr magic trick behind it that
the mRNA knows that it should dessolve before it is integrated into the
cellcore?)

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 15:50 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 17:41:01 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 09:52 schrieb o'Mahoney:
>> This old cunt is talking about mRNA vaccines, not the carrier type,
>> which is old tech, like AZ Vx.
>>
>> I wouldn't call her authoritative, however she *does* have a point
>> about the new tech in that it hasn't really undergone proper trialling
>> due to the "emergency" pandemic protocols.
>>
>> I and my wife refused Pfizer and have had AZ Vx because we don't wish
>> to be part of a huge experimental base which could have significant
>> issues downstream. AZ Vx is traditional carrier Vx - dead protein
>> carried by denatured adenovirus in the usual way, a la flu vaccine
>> etc.
>>
>What you refer to is AZ's vector vaccines in which an adovenovirus is
>injecting the mRNA of the coronavirus as "opposed" to "pure" mRNA
>vaccines, which is almost the same, but the joke is the vector vaccine
>seem to make it obvious that we are vaccinated with a disease!
>(The pharmamaphia

pharmacopoeia? Come on, do you read such things?

>though claim that the mRNA gets destroyed before being
>integrated into the cellcore. Is there somr magic trick behind it that
>the mRNA knows that it should dessolve before it is integrated into the
>cellcore?)

You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
it appears you can be rational.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 15:55 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:50:55 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 17:41:01 +0200, Venus as a Boy
><rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>
>>Am 21.07.2021 um 09:52 schrieb o'Mahoney:
>>> This old cunt is talking about mRNA vaccines, not the carrier type,
>>> which is old tech, like AZ Vx.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't call her authoritative, however she *does* have a point
>>> about the new tech in that it hasn't really undergone proper trialling
>>> due to the "emergency" pandemic protocols.
>>>
>>> I and my wife refused Pfizer and have had AZ Vx because we don't wish
>>> to be part of a huge experimental base which could have significant
>>> issues downstream. AZ Vx is traditional carrier Vx - dead protein
>>> carried by denatured adenovirus in the usual way, a la flu vaccine
>>> etc.
>>>
>>What you refer to is AZ's vector vaccines in which an adovenovirus is
>>injecting the mRNA of the coronavirus as "opposed" to "pure" mRNA
>>vaccines, which is almost the same, but the joke is the vector vaccine
>>seem to make it obvious that we are vaccinated with a disease!
>>(The pharmamaphia
>
>pharmacopoeia? Come on, do you read such things?
>
>>though claim that the mRNA gets destroyed before being
>>integrated into the cellcore. Is there somr magic trick behind it that
>>the mRNA knows that it should dessolve before it is integrated into the
>>cellcore?)
>
>You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
>dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
>it appears you can be rational.

Not so that you can expose yourself to scientific indoctrinating if
that worries you. It is so you can recognize snake oil merchants when
you see them. Snake oil is a much larger risk.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:20 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 17:55 schrieb Noah Sombrero:

>> You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
>> dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
>> it appears you can be rational.
>
> Not so that you can expose yourself to scientific indoctrinating if
> that worries you. It is so you can recognize snake oil merchants when
> you see them. Snake oil is a much larger risk.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
the other post, an "irrational" thought is becoming reality:

https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/

--
https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:32 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:20:26 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 17:55 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>
>>> You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
>>> dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
>>> it appears you can be rational.
>>
>> Not so that you can expose yourself to scientific indoctrinating if
>> that worries you. It is so you can recognize snake oil merchants when
>> you see them. Snake oil is a much larger risk.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
>the other post, an "irrational" thought is becoming reality:
>
>https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/

Best thing is, like I said, go to university where, for example a
single study is not proof of anything. That requires multiple studies
by various researchers, and peer review and things like that.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:38 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 18:32 schrieb Noah Sombrero:

>>
>> I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
>> the other post, an "irrational" thought is becoming reality:
>>
>> https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/
>
> Best thing is, like I said, go to university where, for example a
> single study is not proof of anything. That requires multiple studies
> by various researchers, and peer review and things like that.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

Do you want to imply that most scientists are aware of the idea that you
can't provve anything for sure infinitly because you have to infinitly
replicate the studies bc some omnipotent being could change reality so
the innitial study is not valid anymore!

Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Or ist it now that which studies got more followers or as you might say
"replicas" is the trustworthiest, as there seems to be to every studie a
counterstudy, is it now the newest thing to decide science by vote or
popularity?

--
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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:40 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:32:29 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
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>On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:20:26 +0200, Venus as a Boy
><rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>
>>Am 21.07.2021 um 17:55 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>>>> You need to understand what messenger rna is. Not the same thing as
>>>> dna, for instance. Go to university and learn some biology. Now that
>>>> it appears you can be rational.
>>>
>>> Not so that you can expose yourself to scientific indoctrinating if
>>> that worries you. It is so you can recognize snake oil merchants when
>>> you see them. Snake oil is a much larger risk.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
>>
>>I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
>>the other post, an "irrational" thought is becoming reality:
>>
>>https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/
>
>Best thing is, like I said, go to university where, for example a
>single study is not proof of anything. That requires multiple studies
>by various researchers, and peer review and things like that.

It is true though, that since rna and dna are made out of the same
protein building blocks, arranged in different ways, it is
theoretically possible to convert one to the other by rearranging
blocks. That does not mean that virus rna retains virus properties if
it is converted. Best to go learn something. It is amazing what you
can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:42 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 18:40 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>
> It is true though, that since rna and dna are made out of the same
> protein building blocks, arranged in different ways, it is
> theoretically possible to convert one to the other by rearranging
> blocks. That does not mean that virus rna retains virus properties if

Than what? Human cell properties?

> it is converted. Best to go learn something. It is amazing what you
> can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

--
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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:44 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 18:42 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
> Am 21.07.2021 um 18:40 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>> It is true though, that since rna and dna are made out of the same
>> protein building blocks, arranged in different ways, it is
>> theoretically possible to convert one to the other by rearranging
>> blocks.  That does not mean that virus rna retains virus properties if
>
> Than what? Human cell properties?

Or are you implying there's RNA/DNA that is just for fun or just to look
at it and admire it!

>
>> it is converted.  Best to go learn something.  It is amazing what you
>> can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:46 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:38:49 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 18:32 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>
>>>
>>> I went to google university some minutes ago, and as it seems regarding
>>> the other post, an "irrational" thought is becoming reality:
>>>
>>> https://www.newsy-today.com/human-cells-can-convert-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-finds/
>>
>> Best thing is, like I said, go to university where, for example a
>> single study is not proof of anything. That requires multiple studies
>> by various researchers, and peer review and things like that.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>Do you want to imply that most scientists are aware of the idea that you
>can't provve anything for sure infinitly because you have to infinitly
>replicate the studies bc some omnipotent being could change reality so
>the innitial study is not valid anymore!
>
>Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?

Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
mistakes.

>Or ist it now that which studies got more followers or as you might say
>"replicas" is the trustworthiest, as there seems to be to every studie a
>counterstudy,

The snake oil guys are endlessly shifty. Yes, you can find studies
that say nicotine does not cause cancer. In the end the profs say,
that each investigator needs to examine all the evidence and decide
for himself. All, every single bit. Not only one you found in a
popular news source.

>is it now the newest thing to decide science by vote or
>popularity?

A very old thing. But it isn't popularity.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:52 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:42:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 18:40 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>> It is true though, that since rna and dna are made out of the same
>> protein building blocks, arranged in different ways, it is
>> theoretically possible to convert one to the other by rearranging
>> blocks. That does not mean that virus rna retains virus properties if
>
>Than what? Human cell properties?

That would be what human cells would make.

>
>> it is converted. Best to go learn something. It is amazing what you
>> can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:55 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:52:41 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
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>On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:42:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy
><rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>
>>Am 21.07.2021 um 18:40 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> It is true though, that since rna and dna are made out of the same
>>> protein building blocks, arranged in different ways, it is
>>> theoretically possible to convert one to the other by rearranging
>>> blocks. That does not mean that virus rna retains virus properties if
>>
>>Than what? Human cell properties?
>
>That would be what human cells would make.

Or not dna at all, depending on what use the cell needed to make of
this new protein it found.

>
>>
>>> it is converted. Best to go learn something. It is amazing what you
>>> can discover once you get away from the snake oil guys.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:58 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 18:46 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>> Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?
>
> Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
> made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
> mistakes.

There been massive studies about the dopamine in sz theorie seemed
beeing right though the psychiatrists new the dopamin theorie being a
lie (there are no blood tests identifying dopamin in the blood and the
brain vivisections of dead "sz'ers" finding massive dopamin could just
be like other transmitters like the supposed release of dmt-like
transmitters upon death to make death more pleasent), but actually i
found only one study that says that neurons fire less in sz, though i
even doubt that study!

>
>> Or ist it now that which studies got more followers or as you might say
>> "replicas" is the trustworthiest, as there seems to be to every studie a
>> counterstudy,
>
> The snake oil guys are endlessly shifty. Yes, you can find studies
> that say nicotine does not cause cancer. In the end the profs say,

The dose makes the medicine or the poison!

> that each investigator needs to examine all the evidence and decide
> for himself. All, every single bit. Not only one you found in a
> popular news source.
>
>> is it now the newest thing to decide science by vote or
>> popularity?
>
> A very old thing. But it isn't popularity.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

--
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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 17:17 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:58:46 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 18:46 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?
>>
>> Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
>> made an error. Look again. Nobody is so smart that they don't make
>> mistakes.
>
>There been massive studies about the dopamine in sz theorie seemed
>beeing right though the psychiatrists new the dopamin theorie being a
>lie (there are no blood tests identifying dopamin in the blood and the
>brain vivisections of dead "sz'ers" finding massive dopamin could just
>be like other transmitters like the supposed release of dmt-like
>transmitters upon death to make death more pleasent), but actually i
>found only one study that says that neurons fire less in sz, though i
>even doubt that study!

It is also true that you need the background and the evaluative tools
and the math skills you get at university to decide what to believe.
You can't simply step up to scientific research without that and
expect to know what's what.

If you do well, get the degrees, become the prof and do your own
research, other prof's will read what you say and maybe even try to
duplicate it if they think your idea has potential. It is true that
an awful lot of published research did not get duplicated, did not
attract interest of a prof who might have done that. If you don't see
people trying to duplicate an particular idea, you know what that
means.

One aptitude a phd has that you and I do not, is associative power.
That is where you can spend some years studying the literature of your
discipline and end up remembering all of it, who wrote it, what it
says, and what page to find it on in what resource. That means the
ability to put a whole lot of information together and know what it
all means. You would demonstrate this ability to other phd's when you
defend your dissertation standing in front of them. No notes, every
thing comes straight out of your brain and then out of your mouth.

That does not mean that phd's are superheros, don't have human faults,
and don't make mistakes.

>>
>>> Or ist it now that which studies got more followers or as you might say
>>> "replicas" is the trustworthiest, as there seems to be to every studie a
>>> counterstudy,
>>
>> The snake oil guys are endlessly shifty. Yes, you can find studies
>> that say nicotine does not cause cancer. In the end the profs say,
>
>The dose makes the medicine or the poison!
>
>> that each investigator needs to examine all the evidence and decide
>> for himself. All, every single bit. Not only one you found in a
>> popular news source.
>>
>>> is it now the newest thing to decide science by vote or
>>> popularity?
>>
>> A very old thing. But it isn't popularity.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 17:18 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 18:58 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
> Am 21.07.2021 um 18:46 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> Or why do you say that more studies are neccessary?
>>
>> Because, if nobody else can replicate what you see, then you know you
>> made an error.  Look again.  Nobody is so smart that they don't make
>> mistakes.
>
> There been massive studies about the dopamine in sz theorie seemed
> beeing right though the psychiatrists new the dopamin theorie being a
> lie (there are no blood tests identifying dopamin in the blood and the
> brain vivisections of dead "sz'ers" finding massive dopamin could just
> be like other transmitters like the supposed release of dmt-like
> transmitters upon death to make death more pleasent), but actually i
> found only one study that says that neurons fire less in sz, though i
> even doubt that study!
>

Or the more obvious thing about antidepressivas being effective, it is
shown in many studies that ad's have only a very slight above
placeboeffect effect, but the pharmamafia somehow managed to manipulate
the studies in choosing selective data showing that it seemed to have an
actual effect!

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