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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:08 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 21:03 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:56:23 +0200, Venus as a Boy
> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 21.07.2021 um 19:56 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> True, Henry Ford didn't need a scientific education to built a car.
>>> But in 2021, you need to learn automotive engineering to build a car,
>>> to build a bridge you need civil engineering. That is, if your cars
>>> are to be sold around the world or cars are to be driven across
>>> bridges you might build.
>>>
>>
>> Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
>> mad very highteccy innovations:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac
>
> That does not mean that he did not understand the importance of
> university.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

But it says that you don't need university to be a modern inventor!

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:09 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 21:03 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
> Am 21.07.2021 um 21:00 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>> Am 21.07.2021 um 20:56 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>> Am 21.07.2021 um 19:56 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>>
>>>> True, Henry Ford didn't need a scientific education to built a car.
>>>> But in 2021, you need to learn automotive engineering to build a car,
>>>> to build a bridge you need civil engineering.  That is, if your cars
>>>> are to be sold around the world or cars are to be driven across
>>>> bridges you might build.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
>>> mad very highteccy innovations:
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac
>>>
>>
>> The english wikipedia article is missing his prior university
>> inventions of Iglove and the carbackmirror without a blind spot!
>>
>
> The english article even misses the paragraph which says that he had
> such bad grades in highschool that he didn't want to participate in the
> innovator chalange!
>

Forget it, the german and english article are differently structered so
i didn't read the whole of the english one where these facts are
mentioned somewhere below!

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:10 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:08:08 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:03 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:56:23 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 21.07.2021 um 19:56 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>>
>>>> True, Henry Ford didn't need a scientific education to built a car.
>>>> But in 2021, you need to learn automotive engineering to build a car,
>>>> to build a bridge you need civil engineering. That is, if your cars
>>>> are to be sold around the world or cars are to be driven across
>>>> bridges you might build.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
>>> mad very highteccy innovations:
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac
>>
>> That does not mean that he did not understand the importance of
>> university.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>But it says that you don't need university to be a modern inventor!

That depends on what you want to invent, or build.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:11 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 21:10 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:08:08 +0200, Venus as a Boy
> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
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>> Am 21.07.2021 um 21:03 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:56:23 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 21.07.2021 um 19:56 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>>>
>>>>> True, Henry Ford didn't need a scientific education to built a car.
>>>>> But in 2021, you need to learn automotive engineering to build a car,
>>>>> to build a bridge you need civil engineering. That is, if your cars
>>>>> are to be sold around the world or cars are to be driven across
>>>>> bridges you might build.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
>>>> mad very highteccy innovations:
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac
>>>
>>> That does not mean that he did not understand the importance of
>>> university.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
>>
>> But it says that you don't need university to be a modern inventor!
>
> That depends on what you want to invent, or build.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

read the wiki article!

--
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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:23 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:11:35 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:10 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:08:08 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 21.07.2021 um 21:03 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:56:23 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>>>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 21.07.2021 um 19:56 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True, Henry Ford didn't need a scientific education to built a car.
>>>>>> But in 2021, you need to learn automotive engineering to build a car,
>>>>>> to build a bridge you need civil engineering. That is, if your cars
>>>>>> are to be sold around the world or cars are to be driven across
>>>>>> bridges you might build.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually this guy also studied but prior to his university studies he
>>>>> mad very highteccy innovations:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_Rimac
>>>>
>>>> That does not mean that he did not understand the importance of
>>>> university.
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>>
>>>
>>> But it says that you don't need university to be a modern inventor!
>>
>> That depends on what you want to invent, or build.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>read the wiki article!

Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:24 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 21:05 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>
>> As i said they seem to work, but the momentary drugs merely work after
>> some weeks of exposure and the psychiatrists say that they must build up
>> certain level of the agent to properly work, but the counterargument is,
>> they actually enter the neuronal gaps immediately after the intake!
>
> Let them sort that out. It might take a while. The important thing
> right now is whether they help.
>

I am starting to doubt your ability to think properly or make
connections between statements, but that goes also for the majority of
humanity, so don't be sad, i will explain it to you:
if a drug enters the neuronal gaps immediately, in this case the dopamin
etc. blockers start inhibiting the dopamin receptors, one might think
the drug starts tp "work" according to its intent immediarely, but
according to psychiatrist and observations made amongst patients, the
drug needs weeks to "work" bc of some obscure mechanism. So if i go by
these statements there seems to be some magic involved in the workings
of the drugs bc the innhibtion of the dopamin etc. receptors doesn't
equal to the intent of the drugs but you must wait some magic time that
they unfold their effects. Maybe they are some kind of wine that needs
to be worked around the mouth to unfold its aroma! Yeah? For sure? Fuck it!

--
https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:27 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 21:23 schrieb Noah Sombrero:

> Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
> on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

It is not in the realms of the impossible! Except that you need the
facilities to produce or manufacture it but the blueprints of such could
be made by someone without university in this case i refer you to the
IGlove made by Rimac!

--
https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:31 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:27:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:23 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>
>> Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
>> on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>It is not in the realms of the impossible! Except that you need the
>facilities to produce or manufacture it but the blueprints of such could
>be made by someone without university in this case i refer you to the
>IGlove made by Rimac!

Not even close. A modern cpu has tens of thousands of individual
transistors. Now think how small those must be, and what it would
take to arrange them all so they do what they are supposed to do. Open
your computer and look at the cpu if you haven't done that before.
This is not a matter of some guy printing some circuits and welding it
all together with solder.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:33 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:24:27 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:05 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>>> As i said they seem to work, but the momentary drugs merely work after
>>> some weeks of exposure and the psychiatrists say that they must build up
>>> certain level of the agent to properly work, but the counterargument is,
>>> they actually enter the neuronal gaps immediately after the intake!
>>
>> Let them sort that out. It might take a while. The important thing
>> right now is whether they help.
>>
>
>I am starting to doubt your ability to think properly or make
>connections between statements, but that goes also for the majority of
>humanity, so don't be sad, i will explain it to you:
>if a drug enters the neuronal gaps immediately, in this case the dopamin
>etc. blockers start inhibiting the dopamin receptors, one might think
>the drug starts tp "work" according to its intent immediarely, but
>according to psychiatrist and observations made amongst patients, the
>drug needs weeks to "work" bc of some obscure mechanism. So if i go by
>these statements there seems to be some magic involved in the workings
>of the drugs bc the innhibtion of the dopamin etc. receptors doesn't
>equal to the intent of the drugs but you must wait some magic time that
>they unfold their effects. Maybe they are some kind of wine that needs
>to be worked around the mouth to unfold its aroma! Yeah? For sure? Fuck it!

None of which matters if it works. But you can be sure the techy
sorts will argue about it for some time to come.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:40 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 21:31 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:27:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy
> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 21.07.2021 um 21:23 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>>> Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
>>> on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
>>
>> It is not in the realms of the impossible! Except that you need the
>> facilities to produce or manufacture it but the blueprints of such could
>> be made by someone without university in this case i refer you to the
>> IGlove made by Rimac!
>
> Not even close. A modern cpu has tens of thousands of individual
> transistors. Now think how small those must be, and what it would
> take to arrange them all so they do what they are supposed to do. Open
> your computer and look at the cpu if you haven't done that before.
> This is not a matter of some guy printing some circuits and welding it
> all together with solder.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

They are just some transistors etc., yes the modern cpu's are quiet
complex but they also started small and on these small units where
placed other parts and so forth until they became so big, if someone
without university degree would be interested to build a cpu he for sure
would start with the old 8086 cpu's or even older cpu's and look what
they have added to these cpu's and so could probably build his own if he
liked! As i said they are just complex arrays of transistors and shit!

--
https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:44 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 15:33:18 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:24:27 +0200, Venus as a Boy
><rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>
>>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:05 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>>> As i said they seem to work, but the momentary drugs merely work after
>>>> some weeks of exposure and the psychiatrists say that they must build up
>>>> certain level of the agent to properly work, but the counterargument is,
>>>> they actually enter the neuronal gaps immediately after the intake!
>>>
>>> Let them sort that out. It might take a while. The important thing
>>> right now is whether they help.
>>>
>>
>>I am starting to doubt your ability to think properly or make
>>connections between statements, but that goes also for the majority of
>>humanity, so don't be sad, i will explain it to you:
>>if a drug enters the neuronal gaps immediately, in this case the dopamin
>>etc. blockers start inhibiting the dopamin receptors, one might think
>>the drug starts tp "work" according to its intent immediarely, but
>>according to psychiatrist and observations made amongst patients, the
>>drug needs weeks to "work" bc of some obscure mechanism. So if i go by
>>these statements there seems to be some magic involved in the workings
>>of the drugs bc the innhibtion of the dopamin etc. receptors doesn't
>>equal to the intent of the drugs but you must wait some magic time that
>>they unfold their effects. Maybe they are some kind of wine that needs
>>to be worked around the mouth to unfold its aroma! Yeah? For sure? Fuck it!
>
>None of which matters if it works. But you can be sure the techy
>sorts will argue about it for some time to come.

The thing you can be sure of is that the final answer will not be
magical.

It is like 20 years ago when I took a course in computer hardware. I
was told that the then current cpu was the most complex thing ever
created by humans. And that there are perhaps 4 or 5 theoretical
physicists in the world who understand what is actually happening
inside. The rest of us can devise manufacturing processes to
implement what those physicists say, but that is all. It is beyond
most of us, but in the end there is a rational explanation if you can
get your mind around it. And it works.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:45 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:40:20 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:31 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:27:41 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 21.07.2021 um 21:23 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>>> Regardless, it still depends. Try to build a new computer motherboard
>>>> on your own from basic materials, better yet, a cpu.
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is not in the realms of the impossible! Except that you need the
>>> facilities to produce or manufacture it but the blueprints of such could
>>> be made by someone without university in this case i refer you to the
>>> IGlove made by Rimac!
>>
>> Not even close. A modern cpu has tens of thousands of individual
>> transistors. Now think how small those must be, and what it would
>> take to arrange them all so they do what they are supposed to do. Open
>> your computer and look at the cpu if you haven't done that before.
>> This is not a matter of some guy printing some circuits and welding it
>> all together with solder.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>They are just some transistors etc., yes the modern cpu's are quiet
>complex but they also started small and on these small units where
>placed other parts and so forth until they became so big, if someone
>without university degree would be interested to build a cpu he for sure
>would start with the old 8086 cpu's or even older cpu's and look what
>they have added to these cpu's and so could probably build his own if he
>liked! As i said they are just complex arrays of transistors and shit!

Here is another place where you need to go to university to even
understand what you are saying.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:47 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 21:33 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>> I am starting to doubt your ability to think properly or make
>> connections between statements, but that goes also for the majority of
>> humanity, so don't be sad, i will explain it to you:
>> if a drug enters the neuronal gaps immediately, in this case the dopamin
>> etc. blockers start inhibiting the dopamin receptors, one might think
>> the drug starts tp "work" according to its intent immediarely, but
>> according to psychiatrist and observations made amongst patients, the
>> drug needs weeks to "work" bc of some obscure mechanism. So if i go by
>> these statements there seems to be some magic involved in the workings
>> of the drugs bc the innhibtion of the dopamin etc. receptors doesn't
>> equal to the intent of the drugs but you must wait some magic time that
>> they unfold their effects. Maybe they are some kind of wine that needs
>> to be worked around the mouth to unfold its aroma! Yeah? For sure? Fuck it!
>
> None of which matters if it works. But you can be sure the techy
> sorts will argue about it for some time to come.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

As i said seem to work, you don't understand, even my psychiatrist
admitted that the main function is the sedating one and even to them it
is not clear what the so called antipsychotic effect is, or if you just
look into antideppesivas it is actually mostly a placebo effect, i have
another theory why the nl's are deemed to be effectice simply because
they numb the patient to that degree that he is no more capable of
interacting with the world other than that the therapy of other patients
supporting you with a listening ear and so forth are the main reason
that you reenter the everyday reality!

--
https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:54 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 21:44 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>
> The thing you can be sure of is that the final answer will not be
> magical.
>
> It is like 20 years ago when I took a course in computer hardware. I
> was told that the then current cpu was the most complex thing ever
> created by humans. And that there are perhaps 4 or 5 theoretical
> physicists in the world who understand what is actually happening
> inside. The rest of us can devise manufacturing processes to
> implement what those physicists say, but that is all. It is beyond
> most of us, but in the end there is a rational explanation if you can
> get your mind around it. And it works.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

You are so fond of civilization in this case university and its advances
that you rely think it is so beyond an "avarge" human to ever
understand, that it even might come close to the realms of the
supernatural! If i think correctly or just observe the numbers of just
electroengineers who should be capable of building a cpu according to
the goals of their studies there should be actually hundreds of
thousands uf humans capable of understanding and building cpu'S!

--
https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:01 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:47:21 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:33 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> I am starting to doubt your ability to think properly or make
>>> connections between statements, but that goes also for the majority of
>>> humanity, so don't be sad, i will explain it to you:
>>> if a drug enters the neuronal gaps immediately, in this case the dopamin
>>> etc. blockers start inhibiting the dopamin receptors, one might think
>>> the drug starts tp "work" according to its intent immediarely, but
>>> according to psychiatrist and observations made amongst patients, the
>>> drug needs weeks to "work" bc of some obscure mechanism. So if i go by
>>> these statements there seems to be some magic involved in the workings
>>> of the drugs bc the innhibtion of the dopamin etc. receptors doesn't
>>> equal to the intent of the drugs but you must wait some magic time that
>>> they unfold their effects. Maybe they are some kind of wine that needs
>>> to be worked around the mouth to unfold its aroma! Yeah? For sure? Fuck it!
>>
>> None of which matters if it works. But you can be sure the techy
>> sorts will argue about it for some time to come.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>As i said seem to work, you don't understand, even my psychiatrist
>admitted that the main function is the sedating one and even to them it
>is not clear what the so called antipsychotic effect is, or if you just
>look into antideppesivas it is actually mostly a placebo effect, i have
>another theory why the nl's are deemed to be effectice simply because
>they numb the patient to that degree that he is no more capable of
>interacting with the world other than that the therapy of other patients
>supporting you with a listening ear and so forth are the main reason
>that you reenter the everyday reality!

It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
neurochemist. Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
in brain pills.

Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
antipsychotics, and maybe can't. The brain being ever so much more
complex than a cpu.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:03 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:54:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:44 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>> The thing you can be sure of is that the final answer will not be
>> magical.
>>
>> It is like 20 years ago when I took a course in computer hardware. I
>> was told that the then current cpu was the most complex thing ever
>> created by humans. And that there are perhaps 4 or 5 theoretical
>> physicists in the world who understand what is actually happening
>> inside. The rest of us can devise manufacturing processes to
>> implement what those physicists say, but that is all. It is beyond
>> most of us, but in the end there is a rational explanation if you can
>> get your mind around it. And it works.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>You are so fond of civilization in this case university and its advances
>that you rely think it is so beyond an "avarge" human to ever
>understand, that it even might come close to the realms of the
>supernatural! If i think correctly or just observe the numbers of just
>electroengineers who should be capable of building a cpu according to
>the goals of their studies there should be actually hundreds of
>thousands uf humans capable of understanding and building cpu'S!

Should be... Well, that was what I was told. It did sound to me like
I probably not find a program at university that would tell me how to
build a cpu.
--
Noah Sombrero

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From: fed...@fea.st (Noah Sombrero)
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Subject: Re: Coronavirus vaccine patent from 2007
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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:05 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:03:08 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 21:54:54 +0200, Venus as a Boy
><rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>
>>Am 21.07.2021 um 21:44 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> The thing you can be sure of is that the final answer will not be
>>> magical.
>>>
>>> It is like 20 years ago when I took a course in computer hardware. I
>>> was told that the then current cpu was the most complex thing ever
>>> created by humans. And that there are perhaps 4 or 5 theoretical
>>> physicists in the world who understand what is actually happening
>>> inside. The rest of us can devise manufacturing processes to
>>> implement what those physicists say, but that is all. It is beyond
>>> most of us, but in the end there is a rational explanation if you can
>>> get your mind around it. And it works.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
>>
>>You are so fond of civilization in this case university and its advances
>>that you rely think it is so beyond an "avarge" human to ever
>>understand, that it even might come close to the realms of the
>>supernatural! If i think correctly or just observe the numbers of just
>>electroengineers who should be capable of building a cpu according to
>>the goals of their studies there should be actually hundreds of
>>thousands uf humans capable of understanding and building cpu'S!
>
>Should be... Well, that was what I was told. It did sound to me like
>I probably not find a program at university that would tell me how to
>build a cpu.

There is a difference, though, in building one, and understanding how
they actually work. It is true that there must be a lot of people in
the world involved in the huge supply that we now enjoy.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:07 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 22:01 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>
> It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
> neurochemist. Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
> in brain pills.
>
> Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
> the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
> antipsychotics, and maybe can't. The brain being ever so much more
> complex than a cpu.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies how
a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want to
believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!

--
https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:10 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:07:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 22:01 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>> It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
>> neurochemist. Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
>> in brain pills.
>>
>> Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
>> the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
>> antipsychotics, and maybe can't. The brain being ever so much more
>> complex than a cpu.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
>date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies how
>a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want to
>believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!

Right, and the physicists who understand cpu's can't make a diagram
that explains it all either. It is, in the first place, beyond us.
--
Noah Sombrero

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:14 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 22:07 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
> Am 21.07.2021 um 22:01 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>
>> It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
>> neurochemist.  Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
>> in brain pills.
>>
>> Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
>> the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
>> antipsychotics, and maybe can't.  The brain being ever so much more
>> complex than a cpu.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
> Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
> date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies how
> a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want to
> believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!
>

So comming back to the dopamintheory of sz if the imbalance theory and
the involved drug are of reality some might think the nl's immideatly
entering the neuronal gaps and so blocking the dopamin and so
"rebalancing" the brain should also lead to an immediate annihilation of
symptoms, but that doesn't happen, so i say , no, the drugs don't work
as intended! Do you undestand now?

--
https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:17 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 22:10 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:07:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy
> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 21.07.2021 um 22:01 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
>>> neurochemist. Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
>>> in brain pills.
>>>
>>> Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
>>> the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
>>> antipsychotics, and maybe can't. The brain being ever so much more
>>> complex than a cpu.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
>>
>> Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
>> date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies how
>> a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want to
>> believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!
>
> Right, and the physicists who understand cpu's can't make a diagram
> that explains it all either. It is, in the first place, beyond us.
> --
> Noah Sombrero
>

You stupid bumfuck the physicists actually have a modell that expalins
the workings of a cpu but the neuroscientists have no modell of a
welbalanced brain, they even found out about the endocannabinoid system
in the late 80ies!

--
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 by: Venus as a Boy - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:20 UTC

Am 21.07.2021 um 22:14 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
> Am 21.07.2021 um 22:07 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>> Am 21.07.2021 um 22:01 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
>>> neurochemist.  Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
>>> in brain pills.
>>>
>>> Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
>>> the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
>>> antipsychotics, and maybe can't.  The brain being ever so much more
>>> complex than a cpu.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
>>
>> Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
>> date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies
>> how a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want
>> to believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!
>>
>
> So comming back to the dopamintheory of sz if the imbalance theory and
> the involved drug are of reality some might think the nl's immideatly
> entering the neuronal gaps and so blocking the dopamin and so
> "rebalancing" the brain should also lead to an immediate annihilation of
> symptoms, but that doesn't happen, so i say , no, the drugs don't work
> as intended! Do you undestand now?
>

Or if i come from the opposite side of thinking, i started to hear and
see things after some time again even though i was loaded with nl's up
to the brim!

--
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From: fed...@fea.st (Noah Sombrero)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams.castaneda,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.support.schizophrenia
Subject: Re: Coronavirus vaccine patent from 2007
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:26:31 -0400
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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:26 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:17:59 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 22:10 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:07:22 +0200, Venus as a Boy
>> <rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 21.07.2021 um 22:01 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>>
>>>> It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
>>>> neurochemist. Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
>>>> in brain pills.
>>>>
>>>> Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
>>>> the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
>>>> antipsychotics, and maybe can't. The brain being ever so much more
>>>> complex than a cpu.
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
>>> date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies how
>>> a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want to
>>> believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!
>>
>> Right, and the physicists who understand cpu's can't make a diagram
>> that explains it all either. It is, in the first place, beyond us.
>> --
>> Noah Sombrero
>>
>
>You stupid bumfuck the physicists actually have a modell that expalins
>the workings of a cpu

Well who woodathunk.

> but the neuroscientists have no modell of a
>welbalanced brain, they even found out about the endocannabinoid system
>in the late 80ies!

There you go.
--
Noah Sombrero

Re: Coronavirus vaccine patent from 2007

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:27 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:14:58 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 22:07 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>> Am 21.07.2021 um 22:01 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>
>>> It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
>>> neurochemist.  Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
>>> in brain pills.
>>>
>>> Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
>>> the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
>>> antipsychotics, and maybe can't.  The brain being ever so much more
>>> complex than a cpu.
>>> --
>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>
>>
>> Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
>> date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies how
>> a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want to
>> believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!
>>
>
>So comming back to the dopamintheory of sz if the imbalance theory and
>the involved drug are of reality some might think the nl's immideatly
>entering the neuronal gaps and so blocking the dopamin and so
>"rebalancing" the brain should also lead to an immediate annihilation of
>symptoms, but that doesn't happen, so i say , no, the drugs don't work
>as intended! Do you undestand now?

Slower than intended for a reason yet to be discovered.
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Noah Sombrero

Re: Coronavirus vaccine patent from 2007

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 by: Noah Sombrero - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 20:33 UTC

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:20:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy
<rainbowguardian@web.de> wrote:

>Am 21.07.2021 um 22:14 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>> Am 21.07.2021 um 22:07 schrieb Venus as a Boy:
>>> Am 21.07.2021 um 22:01 schrieb Noah Sombrero:
>>>>
>>>> It is true, your average psychiatrist is not a biochemist or a
>>>> neurochemist.  Psychiatrists are MD pill pushers with a specialization
>>>> in brain pills.
>>>>
>>>> Like with the theoretical physicist who know what happens in a cpu,
>>>> the rest of us don't need to understand the neurochemistry behind
>>>> antipsychotics, and maybe can't.  The brain being ever so much more
>>>> complex than a cpu.
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Sombrero
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah regarding your last statement, it is so complex, that up to this
>>> date no so called biochemist nor neurochemist could show in studies
>>> how a wellbalanced (neurotransmitterwise) brain looks like if you want
>>> to believe in the imbalance theory which is basis fur drug treatments!
>>>
>>
>> So comming back to the dopamintheory of sz if the imbalance theory and
>> the involved drug are of reality some might think the nl's immideatly
>> entering the neuronal gaps and so blocking the dopamin and so
>> "rebalancing" the brain should also lead to an immediate annihilation of
>> symptoms, but that doesn't happen, so i say , no, the drugs don't work
>> as intended! Do you undestand now?
>>
>
>Or if i come from the opposite side of thinking, i started to hear and
>see things after some time again even though i was loaded with nl's up
>to the brim!

Now, that I understand. Could it have something to do with how you
want to believe in these experiences, seek to find explanations for
how they might have a reality of some sort?

Because, if that is what you want, I have no doubt that the brain,
being a living thing, can find a way to rewire itself so you can have
the experiences again.

Are you at the point where nothing works?
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Noah Sombrero


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