On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
> >>
> >> https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
> >>
> >
> > Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
> > with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
> > alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
> > depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
> > will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
> > knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
> George is spot on.
> The Center for Immigration Studies is actually a conservative based
> organization. Which is hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their
> figures since he likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for
> a long time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make too
> big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do
> lobby for things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern
> Poverty Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
> racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic vilification.
> You do get into conflicting agenda because of this though since they
> receive donations from liberal groups who also like having conservative
> outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people like the Boob who use
> them to their advantage.
> The problem with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
> government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very
> much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government swamp
> tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to confirm one after
> another being called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct
> in thinking the numbers are anything but the truth.
> Think of it this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine,
> don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!

How nice of you to join us, and you been of the wagon how long before you gave off this rectal fumes?

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
> >>
> >> https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
> >>
> >
> > Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
> > with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
> > alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
> > depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
> > will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
> > knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
> George is spot on.
> The Center for Immigration Studies is actually a conservative based
> organization. Which is hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their
> figures since he likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for
> a long time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make too
> big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do
> lobby for things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern
> Poverty Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
> racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic vilification.
> You do get into conflicting agenda because of this though since they
> receive donations from liberal groups who also like having conservative
> outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people like the Boob who use
> them to their advantage.
> The problem with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
> government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very
> much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government swamp
> tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to confirm one after
> another being called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct
> in thinking the numbers are anything but the truth.
> Think of it this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine,
> don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!

Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody provides better information. I did not like the people on alt.mexico who wanted to kill men, women and children to secure the border, but those assholes could provide their sources. We could discuss the subject. There are no discussions here, just constant trolling.

TB

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
>> On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
>>> with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of
>>> undocumented alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates
>>> are just that and it depends on who is doing the estimating. Of
>>> course the libs' estimate will be lower or unchanging over the
>>> years but anyone with half a brain knows that's impossible...
>>> just over the past two years.
>> George is spot on. The Center for Immigration Studies is actually
>> a conservative based organization. Which is hilarious since the
>> TechnoBoob uses their figures since he likes their numbers. Most
>> conservatives have known for a long time these numbers are
>> totally underestimated, but don't make too big a stink of it
>> since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do lobby for
>> things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern Poverty
>> Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
>> racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic
>> vilification. You do get into conflicting agenda because of this
>> though since they receive donations from liberal groups who also
>> like having conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as
>> people like the Boob who use them to their advantage. The problem
>> with the numbers is that the groups assembles various government
>> agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very much
>> of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government
>> swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to
>> confirm one after another being called out for lies or partial
>> truths. George is correct in thinking the numbers are anything
>> but the truth. Think of it this way. If you put shit into your
>> sausage making machine, don't be surprised when your sausage
>> tastes like shit!
>
> Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody provides
> better information. I did not like the people on alt.mexico who
> wanted to kill men, women and children to secure the border, but
> those assholes could provide their sources. We could discuss the
> subject. There are no discussions here, just constant trolling.

HawHawHaw! Now that's a hoot. But you're right about discussions - you
can't have rational discussions with controversialists - particularly
with those who admit to being trolls and who admit to posting
primarily - and maybe even entirely - for their own amusement.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

On 9/25/2023 6:50 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
>> On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
>>> with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
>>> alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
>>> depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
>>> will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
>>> knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
>> George is spot on.
>> The Center for Immigration Studies is actually a conservative based
>> organization. Which is hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their
>> figures since he likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for
>> a long time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make too
>> big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do
>> lobby for things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern
>> Poverty Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
>> racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic vilification.
>> You do get into conflicting agenda because of this though since they
>> receive donations from liberal groups who also like having conservative
>> outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people like the Boob who use
>> them to their advantage.
>> The problem with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
>> government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very
>> much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government swamp
>> tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to confirm one after
>> another being called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct
>> in thinking the numbers are anything but the truth.
>> Think of it this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine,
>> don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!
>
> Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody provides better information. I did not like the people on alt.mexico who wanted to kill men, women and children to secure the border, but those assholes could provide their sources. We could discuss the subject. There are no discussions here, just constant trolling.
>
> TB

Hard to have an intelligent discussion with you. One, as I mentioned a
while back, you blow more smoke than Krakatoa, Two, you only think you
are intelligent and three, you are the biggest troll here.
--
Thousands of unchecked illegal aliens are crossing the border all the
while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
to get on an airplane.

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> >> On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
> >>> with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of
> >>> undocumented alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates
> >>> are just that and it depends on who is doing the estimating. Of
> >>> course the libs' estimate will be lower or unchanging over the
> >>> years but anyone with half a brain knows that's impossible...
> >>> just over the past two years.
> >> George is spot on. The Center for Immigration Studies is actually
> >> a conservative based organization. Which is hilarious since the
> >> TechnoBoob uses their figures since he likes their numbers. Most
> >> conservatives have known for a long time these numbers are
> >> totally underestimated, but don't make too big a stink of it
> >> since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do lobby for
> >> things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern Poverty
> >> Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
> >> racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic
> >> vilification. You do get into conflicting agenda because of this
> >> though since they receive donations from liberal groups who also
> >> like having conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as
> >> people like the Boob who use them to their advantage. The problem
> >> with the numbers is that the groups assembles various government
> >> agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very much
> >> of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government
> >> swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to
> >> confirm one after another being called out for lies or partial
> >> truths. George is correct in thinking the numbers are anything
> >> but the truth. Think of it this way. If you put shit into your
> >> sausage making machine, don't be surprised when your sausage
> >> tastes like shit!
> >
> > Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody provides
> > better information. I did not like the people on alt.mexico who
> > wanted to kill men, women and children to secure the border, but
> > those assholes could provide their sources. We could discuss the
> > subject. There are no discussions here, just constant trolling.
> HawHawHaw! Now that's a hoot. But you're right about discussions - you
> can't have rational discussions with controversialists - particularly
> with those who admit to being trolls and who admit to posting
> primarily - and maybe even entirely - for their own amusement.
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

lol, Are you trying to tell us you're posting for any other reason than your own amusement? Your posting history says otherwise. About the only real difference between me and the rest of the dweebs is that I'm honest about it.

TB

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
>>>>> with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of
>>>>> undocumented alien democrat voters in this country.
>>>>> Estimates are just that and it depends on who is doing the
>>>>> estimating. Of course the libs' estimate will be lower or
>>>>> unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
>>>>> knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
>>>> George is spot on. The Center for Immigration Studies is
>>>> actually a conservative based organization. Which is
>>>> hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their figures since he
>>>> likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for a long
>>>> time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make
>>>> too big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly
>>>> laudable. They do lobby for things the leftists don't like,
>>>> and I think the Southern Poverty Law Center has it in for
>>>> them using the typical tactics of racism, anti-immigrant,
>>>> white supremacist, antisemitic vilification. You do get into
>>>> conflicting agenda because of this though since they receive
>>>> donations from liberal groups who also like having
>>>> conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people
>>>> like the Boob who use them to their advantage. The problem
>>>> with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
>>>> government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who
>>>> believes very much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats
>>>> in the government swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch
>>>> congressional hearing to confirm one after another being
>>>> called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct in
>>>> thinking the numbers are anything but the truth. Think of it
>>>> this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine,
>>>> don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!
>>>
>>> Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody
>>> provides better information. I did not like the people on
>>> alt.mexico who wanted to kill men, women and children to secure
>>> the border, but those assholes could provide their sources. We
>>> could discuss the subject. There are no discussions here, just
>>> constant trolling.
>> HawHawHaw! Now that's a hoot. But you're right about discussions
>> - you can't have rational discussions with controversialists -
>> particularly with those who admit to being trolls and who admit
>> to posting primarily - and maybe even entirely - for their own
>> amusement. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> lol, Are you trying to tell us you're posting for any other reason
> than your own amusement?

For a while there, I was hoping for a rational discussion about AI.

> Your posting history says otherwise. About
> the only real difference between me and the rest of the dweebs is
> that I'm honest about it.
>
> TB
>

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
> Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
>>>>>> with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of
>>>>>> undocumented alien democrat voters in this country.
>>>>>> Estimates are just that and it depends on who is doing the
>>>>>> estimating. Of course the libs' estimate will be lower or
>>>>>> unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
>>>>>> knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
>>>>> George is spot on. The Center for Immigration Studies is
>>>>> actually a conservative based organization. Which is
>>>>> hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their figures since he
>>>>> likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for a long
>>>>> time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make
>>>>> too big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly
>>>>> laudable. They do lobby for things the leftists don't like,
>>>>> and I think the Southern Poverty Law Center has it in for
>>>>> them using the typical tactics of racism, anti-immigrant,
>>>>> white supremacist, antisemitic vilification. You do get into
>>>>> conflicting agenda because of this though since they receive
>>>>> donations from liberal groups who also like having
>>>>> conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people
>>>>> like the Boob who use them to their advantage. The problem
>>>>> with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
>>>>> government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who
>>>>> believes very much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats
>>>>> in the government swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch
>>>>> congressional hearing to confirm one after another being
>>>>> called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct in
>>>>> thinking the numbers are anything but the truth. Think of it
>>>>> this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine,
>>>>> don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!
>>>>
>>>> Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody
>>>> provides better information. I did not like the people on
>>>> alt.mexico who wanted to kill men, women and children to secure
>>>> the border, but those assholes could provide their sources. We
>>>> could discuss the subject. There are no discussions here, just
>>>> constant trolling.
>>> HawHawHaw! Now that's a hoot. But you're right about discussions
>>> - you can't have rational discussions with controversialists -
>>> particularly with those who admit to being trolls and who admit
>>> to posting primarily - and maybe even entirely - for their own
>>> amusement. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>
>> lol, Are you trying to tell us you're posting for any other reason
>> than your own amusement?
>
> For a while there, I was hoping for a rational discussion about AI.

You would think he could do that, Any intelligence he has is artificial.

>
>> Your posting history says otherwise. About
>> the only real difference between me and the rest of the dweebs is
>> that I'm honest about it.
>>
>> TB
>>
>
>

--
One out of three Biden voters is just as clueless as the other two.

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 7:38:40 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

> For a while there, I was hoping for a rational discussion about AI.

So you start out by making it political? I would have never thought of that technique as a way to start a rational discussion here. Either way it's all about amazement and amusement.

TB

On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 1:24:01 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
> On 9/24/2023 12:47 PM, bfh wrote:
> > Technobarbarian wrote:
> >> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmiller
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
> >>>> kmiller wrote:
> >>>>> On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
> >>>>>> kmiller wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
> >>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  ÂÂÂ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   Yeah,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this guy is an all American hero. The only
> >>>>>>>>>>>> thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
> >>>>>>>>>>>> these political prosecutions against me'"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > TB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> A government shut down is always a good thing
> >>>>>>>>>>> regardless of which side you are on.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
> >>>>>>>>>> been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
> >>>>>>>>>> having problems with the English language, so I'll
> >>>>>>>>>> just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise -
> >>>>>>>>>> description of my opinion also.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
> >>>>>>>>> and a Google expert?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
> >>>>>>>> figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
> >>>>>>>> toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
> >>>>>>>> of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
> >>>>>>>> misplaced my table.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
> >>>>>> and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
> >>>>>> should at least try to spell its self-identified name
> >>>>>> correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
> >>>>>> blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
> >>>>> be OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
> >>>>
> >>> Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
> >>> in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
> >>
> >> It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
> >> been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
> >> chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
> >> ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
> >> hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
> >>
> >> "May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
> >> security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
> >> immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
> >> avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
> >> their signature midterm campaign promises.
> >>
> >> Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
> >> the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
> >> immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
> >> surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
> >> pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
> >>
> >> The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
> >> championed during the Trump administration, including construction
> >> of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping
> >> migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
> >> opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
> >> unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
> >> their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
> >> through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
> >> of more than 10 days.
> >>
> >> The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
> >> internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
> >> haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on
> >> its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
> >> to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
> >> Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
> >> in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
> >> requirement.
> >>
> >> The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
> >> party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
> >> lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
> >> migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
> >> expires."
> >>
> >> "https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
> >>
> >> There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
> >> years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
> >> entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
> >>
> >> The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
> >> relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
> >
> > Yeah, right. That's why even Democrat mayors and governors are starting
> > to complain and ask for money?
> >
> > Then there's this:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > ...
> > Figure 3. There is a lot of variation from month to month, but the
> > foreign-born population grew much more slowly during Trump's presidency
> > than during Obama's or Biden's. (January 2010 to February 2022, in
> > millions)
> > ...
> > Conclusion
> >
> > We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in
> > the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39
> > million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to
> > 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies
> > imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the
> > U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022
> > — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the
> > beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant
> > population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million
> > increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal
> > immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January
> > 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born
> > population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we
> > compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022
> > estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born
> > population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record
> > high in American history.
> >
> > While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem
> > unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number
> > of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew
> > dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen
> > Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in
> > these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the
> > illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal
> > immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the
> > lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy.
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
> >
> Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
> with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
> alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
> depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
> will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
> knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
> --
> Thousands of unchecked illegal aliens are crossing the border all the
> while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
> to get on an airplane.

Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 1:24:01 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
>> On 9/24/2023 12:47 PM, bfh wrote:
>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmiller
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>>>> kmiller wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>> kmiller wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ÂÂÂ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this guy is an all American hero. The only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these political prosecutions against me'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> TB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A government shut down is always a good thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of which side you are on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
>>>>>>>>>>>> having problems with the English language, so I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise -
>>>>>>>>>>>> description of my opinion also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
>>>>>>>>>>> and a Google expert?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
>>>>>>>>>> figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
>>>>>>>>>> toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
>>>>>>>>>> of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
>>>>>>>>>> misplaced my table.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
>>>>>>>> and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
>>>>>>>> should at least try to spell its self-identified name
>>>>>>>> correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
>>>>>>>> blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
>>>>>>> be OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
>>>>> in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
>>>>
>>>> It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
>>>> been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
>>>> chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
>>>> ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
>>>> hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
>>>>
>>>> "May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
>>>> security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
>>>> immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
>>>> avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
>>>> their signature midterm campaign promises.
>>>>
>>>> Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
>>>> the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
>>>> immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
>>>> surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
>>>> pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
>>>>
>>>> The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
>>>> championed during the Trump administration, including construction
>>>> of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping
>>>> migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
>>>> opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
>>>> unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
>>>> their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
>>>> through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
>>>> of more than 10 days.
>>>>
>>>> The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
>>>> internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
>>>> haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on
>>>> its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
>>>> to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
>>>> Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
>>>> in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
>>>> requirement.
>>>>
>>>> The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
>>>> party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
>>>> lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
>>>> migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
>>>> expires."
>>>>
>>>> "https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
>>>> years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
>>>> entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
>>>>
>>>> The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
>>>> relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
>>>
>>> Yeah, right. That's why even Democrat mayors and governors are starting
>>> to complain and ask for money?
>>>
>>> Then there's this:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ...
>>> Figure 3. There is a lot of variation from month to month, but the
>>> foreign-born population grew much more slowly during Trump's presidency
>>> than during Obama's or Biden's. (January 2010 to February 2022, in
>>> millions)
>>> ...
>>> Conclusion
>>>
>>> We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in
>>> the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39
>>> million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to
>>> 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies
>>> imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the
>>> U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022
>>> — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the
>>> beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant
>>> population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million
>>> increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal
>>> immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January
>>> 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born
>>> population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we
>>> compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022
>>> estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born
>>> population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record
>>> high in American history.
>>>
>>> While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem
>>> unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number
>>> of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew
>>> dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen
>>> Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in
>>> these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the
>>> illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal
>>> immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the
>>> lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
>>>
>>>
>> Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
>> with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
>> alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
>> depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
>> will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
>> knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
>> --
>> Thousands of unchecked illegal aliens are crossing the border all the
>> while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
>> to get on an airplane.
>
> Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me. Another significant difference
> between me and the average rort dweeb is that I frequently backup my
> opinions with facts. It makes the know nothings crazy because all they
> have to rebut it with is ignorance.
>
> TB
>