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From: bks...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
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Subject: Re: F.cking Gun Nuts
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 13:41:25 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 13:41 UTC

|
| Trends in mass shootings in the United States (2013-2021):
| A worsening American epidemic of death
| ...
| Conclusions
| U.S. mass shootings have increased over the past decade.
| Stronger gun laws appear associated with fewer monthly mass
| shooting-related deaths. Firearm-related legislation may at
| least partially, curtail the worsening of this substantial
| "American problem" of mass shootings.
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<https://www.americanjournalofsurgery.com/article/S0002-9610(23)00131-9/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_aip_email>

--bks

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 by: Yak - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 13:57 UTC

On 4/6/2023 9:41 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> |
> | Trends in mass shootings in the United States (2013-2021):
> | A worsening American epidemic of death
> | ...
> | Conclusions
> | U.S. mass shootings have increased over the past decade.
> | Stronger gun laws appear associated with fewer monthly mass
> | shooting-related deaths. Firearm-related legislation may at
> | least partially, curtail the worsening of this substantial
> | "American problem" of mass shootings.
> | ...
> <https://www.americanjournalofsurgery.com/article/S0002-9610(23)00131-9/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_aip_email>
>
> --bks

Yeah...and this has what to do with other countries?

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:20 UTC

Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>> |
>> | Trends in mass shootings in the United States (2013-2021):
>> | A worsening American epidemic of death
>> | ...
>> | Conclusions
>> | U.S. mass shootings have increased over the past decade.
>> | Stronger gun laws appear associated with fewer monthly mass
>> | shooting-related deaths. Firearm-related legislation may at
>> | least partially, curtail the worsening of this substantial
>> | "American problem" of mass shootings.
>> | ...
><https://www.americanjournalofsurgery.com/article/S0002-9610(23)00131-9/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_aip_email>
>
>Yeah...and this has what to do with other countries?

Yeah...and other planets, too!

--bks

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 by: Yak - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:34 UTC

On 4/6/2023 10:20 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>>> |
>>> | Trends in mass shootings in the United States (2013-2021):
>>> | A worsening American epidemic of death
>>> | ...
>>> | Conclusions
>>> | U.S. mass shootings have increased over the past decade.
>>> | Stronger gun laws appear associated with fewer monthly mass
>>> | shooting-related deaths. Firearm-related legislation may at
>>> | least partially, curtail the worsening of this substantial
>>> | "American problem" of mass shootings.
>>> | ...
>> <https://www.americanjournalofsurgery.com/article/S0002-9610(23)00131-9/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_aip_email>
>>
>> Yeah...and this has what to do with other countries?
>
> Yeah...and other planets, too!

Hey, you're the one that brought up other countries...for whatever
reason...only you know.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:35 UTC

Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>On 4/6/2023 10:20 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>>>> |
>>>> | Trends in mass shootings in the United States (2013-2021):
>>>> | A worsening American epidemic of death
>>>> | ...
>>>> | Conclusions
>>>> | U.S. mass shootings have increased over the past decade.
>>>> | Stronger gun laws appear associated with fewer monthly mass
>>>> | shooting-related deaths. Firearm-related legislation may at
>>>> | least partially, curtail the worsening of this substantial
>>>> | "American problem" of mass shootings.
>>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.americanjournalofsurgery.com/article/S0002-9610(23)00131-9/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_aip_email>
>>>
>>> Yeah...and this has what to do with other countries?
>>
>> Yeah...and other planets, too!
>
>Hey, you're the one that brought up other countries...for whatever
>reason...only you know.

Hey, no I didn't.

--bks

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 by: Yak - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:48 UTC

On 4/6/2023 10:35 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>> On 4/6/2023 10:20 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Trends in mass shootings in the United States (2013-2021):
>>>>> | A worsening American epidemic of death
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> | Conclusions
>>>>> | U.S. mass shootings have increased over the past decade.
>>>>> | Stronger gun laws appear associated with fewer monthly mass
>>>>> | shooting-related deaths. Firearm-related legislation may at
>>>>> | least partially, curtail the worsening of this substantial
>>>>> | "American problem" of mass shootings.
>>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.americanjournalofsurgery.com/article/S0002-9610(23)00131-9/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_aip_email>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah...and this has what to do with other countries?
>>>
>>> Yeah...and other planets, too!
>>
>> Hey, you're the one that brought up other countries...for whatever
>> reason...only you know.
>
> Hey, no I didn't.

Well I'll be, you're right (bet you don't hear that too often). It was
Gronk. Apologies, your brand of extreme radicalism are so similar I
guess I got confused.

> --bks

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 by: pyotr filipivich - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:17 UTC

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> on Wed, 05 Apr 2023 16:43:17
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>On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:09:50 -0700, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>>Won't be the first Russian Empire to collapse.
>>
>> That wasn't the empire I had in mind.
>
>Should have been. There's little of it left and there'll be less tomorrow.

Can you tell me a another country which has pegged their currency
to gold?

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 by: pyotr filipivich - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:17 UTC

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> on Wed, 05 Apr 2023 16:42:08
-0400 typed in alt.survival the following:
>On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:09:50 -0700, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> on Sat, 1 Apr 2023 11:51:21 -0400
>>typed in alt.survival the following:
>>>On 4/1/2023 11:19 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>> Mike Pompeii <ShitfaceWarmonger@gmail.com> on Fri, 31 Mar 2023
>>>> 06:46:08 -0400 typed in alt.survival the following:
>>>>> On 3/31/2023 5:55 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> By the end of the century only China and the EU can seriously rival us.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have fucked the EU big time. Without the cheap energy from Russia,
>>>>> the Europeans will be under our thumb, totally dependent on us for oil
>>>>> and gas. Consider them goners. Stupid Europeans. LOL
>>>> LOL. Now just who is going to be producing that oil that "we" are
>>>> going to be supplying?
>>>
>>>The Europeans will get oil from the US and other oil produces except
>>>Russia. The oil prices in Europe will go up dramatically because of
>>>higher transportation cost (instead of a pipeline from Russia). The oil
>>>prices in the US will also go up because of higher demand for export to
>>>Europe.
>>
>> And where is this oil coming from? Out of the massive savings
>>resulting from the conversion to windmills and solar panels for
>>electrical production?
>
>Oil is a global commodity. As Russia shifts to serve China, other oil producers,
>including the US will shift to serve Europe.
>
>> Update your boilerplate - the American government is opposed to
>>the production of oil in the US.
>
>More bullshit from the rabid right. For years, decades we've been one of the top three
>oil producers but our greed and addiction to the black gold means that even then we use
>more than we pump. Thirty years ago, oil imports were the largest components of our
>import trade, today, it's a tiny fraction due mostly to fracking.

"For years" yes, that was true. But perhaps you may not have
noticed that the American Government is opposed to oil drilling,
production and stockpiling.
Does the word "Keystone" google any results?
>
>>>> Congratulations though, it is a rare thing to live when an Empire
>>>> comes to an end.
>>>We have already witnessed the ending of the once mighty British Empire.
>>>The Brits exhausted itself trying to keep Germany down in WWI, and then
>>>again in WWII. The British Empire lost most of its worldly colonial
>>>possessions, and has now become a US lapdog ("a special relationship",
>>>as Boris Johnson boasted). Pity.
>>
>> You might want to update your boiler plate on this as well.
>>
>> The "empire" I was referring to is the American one. The "Pax
>>Americana" is over.
>
>Not really, although the petrodollar is beginning to fade. No matter, a main cause of
>war in the modern world is trade disputes. That's how the US ended up providing and
>regulating the chief international trade currency. The euro is taking up some of this
>trade but lately nations are making agreements to trade with each other in their own
>currencies.

And as the Dollar ceases to be the reserve currency of the world,
the impact on the US economy will be huge. Who wants to buy US Bonds
in a currency people do not want?

>
>Ultimately this leads to disputes that escalate into wars. But that's ok. If the world
>decides to ditch Pax Americana, I hope they enjoy SinoPax.

It isn't so much that the "world" decides to ditch Pax American,
it is that the Americans have cut and run.
>
>Swill
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On 4/5/2023 2:27 PM, 😎 Weakling Shitstain ✅ wrote:

> because the US dollar had become the de facto world reserve currency
> after tricking every country into using SWIFT, which was touted as a
> scheme to curb money laundering.

That's a lie, like all the garbage you post, you worthless lying
shitstain. You need your to have your head caved in with a very
heavy sledgehammer.

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 by: Kẻ giả mạo là - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 16:13 UTC

On 4/5/2023 2:28 PM, 😎 Feeble Shitstain ✅ wrote:

> I am too stupid and too ignorant to know what I am talking about.

It's obvious every time you post, you useless piece of shit.

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 by: Siri Cruise - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 17:33 UTC

Yak wrote:
> On 4/6/2023 10:20 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> Yak  <Yak@inbox.com> wrote:

> Hey, you're the one that brought up other countries...for whatever
> reason...only you know.
How does it feel riding the short bus of international relations?

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 by: Siri Cruise - Thu, 6 Apr 2023 18:44 UTC

On 4/5/2023 5:27 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> On 4/5/2023 4:42 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:09:50 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>> <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> on Sat, 1 Apr 2023 11:51:21 -0400
>>> typed in alt.survival  the following:
>>>> On 4/1/2023 11:19 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>>> Mike Pompeii <ShitfaceWarmonger@gmail.com> on Fri, 31 Mar 2023
>>>>> 06:46:08 -0400 typed in alt.survival  the following:
>>>>>> On 3/31/2023 5:55 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> By the end of the century only China and the EU can seriously
>>>>>>> rival us.
>>>>>> We have fucked the EU big time. Without the cheap energy from
>>>>>> Russia,
>>>>>> the Europeans will be under our thumb, totally dependent on us
>>>>>> for oil
>>>>>> and gas. Consider them goners. Stupid Europeans. LOL
>>>>>     LOL. Now just who is going to be producing that oil that "we" are
>>>>> going to be supplying?
>>>> The Europeans will get oil from the US and other oil produces except
>>>> Russia. The oil prices in Europe will go up dramatically because of
>>>> higher transportation cost (instead of a pipeline from Russia). The
>>>> oil
>>>> prices in the US will also go up because of higher demand for
>>>> export to
>>>> Europe.
>>>     And where is this oil coming from?  Out of the massive savings
>>> resulting from the conversion to windmills and solar panels for
>>> electrical production?
>> Oil is a global commodity.  As Russia shifts to serve China, other
>> oil producers,
>> including the US will shift to serve Europe.
>>
>>>     Update your boilerplate - the American government is opposed to
>>> the production of oil in the US.
>> More bullshit from the rabid right.  For years, decades we've been
>> one of the top three
>> oil producers but our greed and addiction to the black gold means
>> that even then we use
>> more than we pump.  Thirty years ago, oil imports were the largest
>> components of our
>> import trade, today, it's a tiny fraction due mostly to fracking.
>>
>>>>>     Congratulations though, it is a rare thing to live when an Empire
>>>>> comes to an end.
>>>> We have already witnessed the ending of the once mighty British
>>>> Empire.
>>>> The Brits exhausted itself trying to keep Germany down in WWI, and
>>>> then
>>>> again in WWII. The British Empire lost most of its worldly colonial
>>>> possessions, and has now become a US lapdog ("a special relationship",
>>>> as Boris Johnson boasted). Pity.
>>>     You might want to update your boiler plate on this as well.
>>>
>>>     The "empire" I was referring to is the American one.  The "Pax
>>> Americana" is over.
>> Not really, although the petrodollar is beginning to fade.
>
>
> The US has been printing money out of thin air worse the Argentina
> did. The reason Argentina's currency collapsed but the US dollar
> hasn't is because the US dollar had become the de facto world reserve
> currency after tricking every country into using SWIFT, which was
> touted as a scheme to curb money laundering. Instead, the US used
> SWIFT as a mechanism to impose economic sanctions. Countries cannot
> use SWIFT to do trade if the US has imposed sanctions on those
> countries. Now the world is fed up with the lying and bullying
> Americans. You are too stupid and ignorant to understand why the US
> could print money with impunity without collapsing, but you will soon
> feel the effects of the world moving away from using US dollars in
> trade. The US will not be able to impose sanctions when the world is
> not using SWIFT and US dollar in trade, and the US will have live
> within its means instead of printing money out of thin air.
>
>
>

I don't think Swill understands anything at all. Swill is a
mouth-breather. LOL

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On 4/6/2023 11:17 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> on Wed, 05 Apr 2023 16:43:17
> -0400 typed in alt.survival the following:
>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:09:50 -0700, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Won't be the first Russian Empire to collapse.
>>> That wasn't the empire I had in mind.
>> Should have been. There's little of it left and there'll be less tomorrow.
> Can you tell me a another country which has pegged their currency
> to gold?
>

The European Jewry banking cartel took over the central bank of the USA
and created the Federal Reserve in 1913. The Fed outlawed private
ownership of gold, and pegged the Greenback to gold to force citizens to
convert all their gold holdings to the paper money. France forced the US
to redeem France's holdings of Greenback to gold and used a battleship
to transport the US gold back to France. Nixon had to "temporarily"
cancel the conversion in 1971 to curb the outflow of gold. It never
resumed.

Off the top of my head, there was a similar scheme used by the US puppet
(Chiang Kai-Shek of the Republic of China) in China to steal all the
gold from Chinese peasons and then fled to Taiwan with the help of the USA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_gold_yuan
The Chinese gold yuan (also known as golden round, golden yuan, among
others) was a defunct legal tender currency of China between August 1948
and 1949. It was a method used by the Republic of China government to
accumulate gold from its citizens in preparation to relocate to Taiwan.
It circulated in the country under the effective control of the
Government of the Republic of China known as Taiwan Province, R.O.C.,
which issued paper money[1] on August 19, 1948.[1] This currency was
notorious for vicious inflation due to inadequate issuance preparation
and failure to strictly enforce issuance limits. In the early days of
the issuance of the Golden yuan, the government used executive actions
to force the public to exchange gold, foreign currency for the new
currency. The legal exchange rate was 0.22217 grams of gold per gold
yuan but it could not be honored.[1] The sharply depreciating Fabi
currency was at the rate of one golden yuan of the yen to Fabi $3
million, and this rate was used for the compulsory collection of public
gold, silver, and foreign currency.[1] In particular, the economic
losses suffered by the urban middle class were so great that the ROC
government lost its original most important supporters and was one of
the reasons why the ROC government failed so quickly in the Chinese
Civil War.

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Siri Cruise wrote:
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Rudy, my laptop finally went the way of all silicon flesh and took
my MT-Newswatcher with it. I upgraded my signature to version 2.0.

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On 4/6/2023 3:58 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
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> Rudy, my laptop finally went the way of all silicon flesh and took my
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Thank you.

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 by: Governor Swill - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 00:35 UTC

On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 17:27:29 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe ? <@.> wrote:

>The US has been printing money out of thin air worse the Argentina did.
>The reason Argentina's currency collapsed but the US dollar hasn't is
>because the US dollar had become the de facto world reserve currency
>after tricking every country into using SWIFT, which was touted as a
>scheme to curb money laundering. Instead, the US used SWIFT as a
>mechanism to impose economic sanctions. Countries cannot use SWIFT to do
>trade if the US has imposed sanctions on those countries. Now the world
>is fed up with the lying and bullying Americans. You are too stupid and
>ignorant to understand why the US could print money with impunity
>without collapsing, but you will soon feel the effects of the world
>moving away from using US dollars in trade. The US will not be able to
>impose sanctions when the world is not using SWIFT and US dollar in
>trade, and the US will have live within its means instead of printing
>money out of thin air.

I don't know why you bother to post in here. You're a dimwitted commie who never knows
what he's talking about. For most of a year we've listened to bullshit about Russian
kicking ass, Russia using nukes, Russia's strong economy, Russia's miracle weapons and all
we've really gotten is Russian soldiers and their moms begging for help while Russian
malls empty out because everybody is afraid to spend what little rubles they've got.
Dumbass Pootin' thinks he's got what it takes to win a war but can't even keep his troops
in socks. Russian artillery firings are down 75% because the idiot is running out of
ammo.

America is rich and powerful because we give people FREEDOM to act, to speak, to live
their lives as they like. You really think you could get away with the anti establishment
shit you spew if you lived in Russia? HELL no! They catch you in Russia practicing the
freedom of speech you're accustomed to in the west and you'll be working in a Siberian
salt mine wearing a hat made out of your wife's head.

Has Putin allowed Russian media to inform the public that Finland is now in NATO and that
it's because of his "speshul operashun"?

All the reasons Pootin' invaded Ukraine have backfired because he's almost as stupid as
YOU are.

So shut the fuck up, you ignorant asshole! Nobody is interested in anything YOU have to
say.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Swill
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"Russia has lost. They've lost strategitally, operationally and tactically and they are
paying an enormous price on the battlefield. But until Putin ends his war of choice the
international community will continue to support Ukraine with the equipment and
capabilities it needs to defend itself. Through this group, we are collectively
supporting Ukraine's ability to defend its territory, protect its citizens and liberate
their occupied areas." - Joint Chiefs Chairman, Gen. Mark Milley

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

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 by: Governor Swill - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 00:37 UTC

Has the Ukraine invasion been a strategic win for Russia?

Putin Is A Moron Department Part Une

If his objective was to weaken NATO and fragment Europe, his invasion has had just the
opposite effect. The alliance has firmed, expanded and begun arming as never before. If
his objective included keeping Ukraine out of NATO, Ukraine was never going to be part of
NATO to start with. NATO rules forbid nations with territorial disputes from membership
and Ukraine has two: Crimea and the Donbas. Also, NATO membership had very weak support
from the public, but today, the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians support it. No matter
how this war turns out, as long as the end treaty settles it's border disputes with
Russia, Ukraine will be eligible, which it wasn't before, which makes it a shoo in for
NATO membership. GO PUTIN! You idiot.

HAIL VLAD THE FIRST! The MORON of MOSCOW!

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The newly elected President of the Czech Republic is a former
General who once chaired the NATO Military Commission.
I wonder what his opinion on the Ukraine war and the
threat from Russia will be?

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

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On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 08:17:03 -0700, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> "For years" yes, that was true. But perhaps you may not have
>noticed that the American Government is opposed to oil drilling,
>production and stockpiling.

You are a lying asshole.

"The U.S. is the Top Producer of Fossil Fuels

The United States now produces more oil and gas and holds more coal reserves than any
nation in the world."
https://lifepowered.org/the-us-is-the-top-producer-of-fossil-fuels/

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Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

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 by: Governor Swill - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 00:43 UTC

On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 17:28:46 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe ? <@.> wrote:

>On 4/5/2023 4:43 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:09:50 -0700, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Won't be the first Russian Empire to collapse.
>>> That wasn't the empire I had in mind.
>> Should have been. There's little of it left and there'll be less tomorrow.
>>
>> Swill
>>
>
>You are too stupid and too ignorant to know what you are talking about.
>

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 by: Governor Swill - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 01:05 UTC

On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 17:28:46 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe ? <@.> wrote:

>On 4/5/2023 4:43 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:09:50 -0700, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Won't be the first Russian Empire to collapse.
>>> That wasn't the empire I had in mind.
>> Should have been. There's little of it left and there'll be less tomorrow.

>You are too stupid and too ignorant to know what you are talking about.

Where are all these Russian victories you've been promising us, stupid?

Russia STILL hasn't taken Bakhmut. Putin's government is coming apart. Prighozin has
retired from the Bakhmut action, Shoigu is building his own personal army as are other
Oligarchs. Russian casualties will be a quarter million by June if not before. Stupid
Russian armor drivers are running over their own guys in the fields. Russian artillery
firings are down 75% from December because he's running out of ammo. Pootin's shipping
WWII era tanks from the east because he's running out of 90s and 80s and 70s era Soviet
tanks in Ukraine. He's afraid to send stealth aircraft over Ukraine because he only has
three. We have more models of stealth aircraft than that! What's Russia going to do when
Poland takes delivery on the 64 F-35s they've ordered? His entire Air Force has been
forbidden to fly within range of Ukraine air defenses because they keep shooting them out
of the sky with fucking MANPADS! Except for the ones that just fall out of the sky on
their own because Russian aircraft are

Pootin' is afraid to do another mobilization because the people might revolt and the LAST
time he tried it, more guys LEFT the country than he was able to rope into going to
Ukraine. Only Iran and North Korea are sending him any weapons and the best they can do
is kamikaze drones and expired ammo. He doesn't have a clue what he's doing because lying
to superiors and stealing everything not nailed down is the Russian way. "This war needs
to be over," the pacifists whine. Well it could be if Pootin' would just go the fuck
home.

All of Europe is not only sending Ukraine everything they can spare, they're sending what
they can't spare and ordering replacement weapons from the US, France, Great Britain,
Germany and South Korea as fast as they can. Thanks for the economic stimulus, Vlad, you
stupid fuck! More tanks are coming, many have been delivered ahead of schedule and the
crews are already trained. Soon Saab and Boeing will be shipping GLSDB by the thousands.
More Patriots are coming too. What few missiles Russia has left he's terrified to use
because that will leave him unarmed. Where are all these wonderful miracle weapons that
were supposed to turn the tide of the war months ago? Up Vlad's greasy ass? And while
all this is happening, the few Republicans stupid enough to support Pootin' are being
shouted down in the streets.

I can't wait until the Russians retreat from Crimea and have to swim the Azov to get home.

Swill
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 by: Governor Swill - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 01:06 UTC

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 08:17:03 -0700, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> on Wed, 05 Apr 2023 16:43:17
>-0400 typed in alt.survival the following:
>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:09:50 -0700, pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Won't be the first Russian Empire to collapse.
>>>
>>> That wasn't the empire I had in mind.
>>
>>Should have been. There's little of it left and there'll be less tomorrow.
>
> Can you tell me a another country which has pegged their currency
>to gold?

Nobody is pegged to gold anymore but dozens of countries have pegged their currencies to
the USD.

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 by: Governor Swill - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 01:07 UTC

A forger posted:

Nothing worth reading.

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 by: max headroom - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 01:20 UTC

On 4/6/2023 8:35 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> America is rich and powerful because we give people FREEDOM to act, to speak, to live
> their lives as they like.

Then Mexico and all other lawless countries should be much richer than
the US, you brainless mouth-breathing inbred. LOL

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 by: max headroom - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 01:31 UTC

On 4/6/2023 3:05 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> On 4/6/2023 11:17 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> on Wed, 05 Apr 2023 16:43:17
>> -0400 typed in alt.survival  the following:
>>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:09:50 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>>> <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Won't be the first Russian Empire to collapse.
>>>>     That wasn't the empire I had in mind.
>>> Should have been. There's little of it left and there'll be less
>>> tomorrow.
>>     Can you tell me a another country which has pegged their currency
>> to gold?
>>
>
> The European Jewry banking cartel took over the central bank of the
> USA and created the Federal Reserve in 1913. The Fed outlawed private
> ownership of gold, and pegged the Greenback to gold to force citizens
> to convert all their gold holdings to the paper money. France forced
> the US to redeem France's holdings of Greenback to gold and used a
> battleship to transport the US gold back to France. Nixon had to
> "temporarily" cancel the conversion in 1971 to curb the outflow of
> gold. It never resumed.
>
> Off the top of my head, there was a similar scheme used by the US
> puppet (Chiang Kai-Shek of the Republic of China) in China to steal
> all the gold from Chinese peasons and then fled to Taiwan with the
> help of the USA:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_gold_yuan
> The Chinese gold yuan (also known as golden round, golden yuan, among
> others) was a defunct legal tender currency of China between August
> 1948 and 1949. It was a method used by the Republic of China
> government to accumulate gold from its citizens in preparation to
> relocate to Taiwan. It circulated in the country under the effective
> control of the Government of the Republic of China known as Taiwan
> Province, R.O.C., which issued paper money[1] on August 19, 1948.[1]
> This currency was notorious for vicious inflation due to inadequate
> issuance preparation and failure to strictly enforce issuance limits.
> In the early days of the issuance of the Golden yuan, the government
> used executive actions to force the public to exchange gold, foreign
> currency for the new currency. The legal exchange rate was 0.22217
> grams of gold per gold yuan but it could not be honored.[1] The
> sharply depreciating Fabi currency was at the rate of one golden yuan
> of the yen to Fabi $3 million, and this rate was used for the
> compulsory collection of public gold, silver, and foreign currency.[1]
> In particular, the economic losses suffered by the urban middle class
> were so great that the ROC government lost its original most important
> supporters and was one of the reasons why the ROC government failed so
> quickly in the Chinese Civil War.
>

You are very wise.

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 by: pyotr filipivich - Fri, 7 Apr 2023 15:14 UTC

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> on Thu, 06 Apr 2023 20:37:47
-0400 typed in alt.survival the following:
>Has the Ukraine invasion been a strategic win for Russia?

Has Russia conceded the battlefield / war?
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