On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:52:27 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>
>
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>
>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>
>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>
>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group. Will you join me?
>>
>Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of a great era
>of public education!

Public? I think Ed's the only one who reads Greg's political rants and
quotes. Greg's like the man yelling on the street corner. People point
at their foreheads and don't listen.

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:

> Ed P wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along with
>>>>>>>> some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with a
>>>>>>>> bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt and one side
>>>>>>>> of the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn using a wide spatula and
>>>>>>>> cook until the other side is lightly browned and the cheese is nicely
>>>>>>>> melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove the quesadilla to a
>>>>>>>> board, let it set a minute then cut it into triangles (kind of like
>>>>>>>> slicing a small round pizza).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and the Democrat
>>>>>>> Party does not have a military uniform fetish or goose step up
>>>>>>> Pennsylvania Avenue, they are little different than the Nazi Party of
>>>>>>> 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of Germany...
>>>>>>> There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no limit to the lives to be
>>>>>>> sacrificed, no constraint on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of the
>>>>>>> rule of law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no respect
>>>>>>> for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw unbridled determination to
>>>>>>> seize power in perpetuity...
>>>>>
>>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
>>>>>> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>
>>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>>
>>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.  Will you join me?
>>>>
>>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of a great era
>>> of public education!
>
>> This is a food related group. We do go off topic at times but still
>> maintain overall focus. No one has ever changed the political slant of
>> anyone so posting that stuff just interferes.
>
>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
>> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>
> Quit the lecturing and hectoring, Ed - you come off sounding like a nag such
> as Jill...

Ed has spoken, doesn't that mean it is our duty to obey? ;)

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>
>>> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along with
>>>>>>> some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with a
>>>>>>> bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt and one side of
>>>>>>> the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn using a wide spatula and cook
>>>>>>> until the other side is lightly browned and the cheese is nicely
>>>>>>> melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove the quesadilla to a
>>>>>>> board, let it set a minute then cut it into triangles (kind of like
>>>>>>> slicing a small round pizza).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and the Democrat Party
>>>>>> does not have a military uniform fetish or goose step up Pennsylvania
>>>>>> Avenue, they are little different than the Nazi Party of 1927-1934 in
>>>>>> their pursuit of one-party control of Germany...
>>>>>> There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no limit to the lives to be
>>>>>> sacrificed, no constraint on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of the rule
>>>>>> of law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no respect for the
>>>>>> dignity of mankind -- just a raw unbridled determination to seize power
>>>>>> in perpetuity...
>>>>>
>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
>>>>> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> He got his head stuck in trump's ass at some point. Ain't been the same
>>>> since.
>>>
>>> When President Trump begins his reign next year it will be FREE cheeze
>>> quesadillas for EVERYBODY, Sire Hank...
>>>
>>> America will truly be "the land of milk and honey"...
>>>
>>>
>
>> See, there was a connection to food after all! =)
>
> I just *know* that there is *some* way that I can convince Hank to vote for
> President Trump in November...
>
> It will be hard work, but I *know* it will "pay off"...
>
> As The Holy Book sez:
>
> Proverbs 14:23:
>
> “All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty...”
>
> ;-D

Haha, brilliant! =)

Ed P wrote:
> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along with
>>>>>>> some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with
>>>>>>> a bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt and one
>>>>>>> side of the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn using a wide spatula
>>>>>>> and cook until the other side is lightly browned and the cheese is
>>>>>>> nicely melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove the
>>>>>>> quesadilla to a board, let it set a minute then cut it into
>>>>>>> triangles (kind of like slicing a small round pizza).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and the Democrat
>>>>>> Party does not have a military uniform fetish or goose step up
>>>>>> Pennsylvania Avenue, they are little different than the Nazi Party of
>>>>>> 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of Germany...
>>>>>> There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no limit to the lives to be
>>>>>> sacrificed, no constraint on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of the
>>>>>> rule of law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no respect
>>>>>> for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw unbridled determination to
>>>>>> seize power in perpetuity...
>>>>
>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
>>>>> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>
>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>
>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.  Will you join me?
>>>
>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of a great era
>> of public education!
>
> This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but still
> maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the political slant of
> anyone so posting that stuff just interferes.
>
> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.

That makes me wonder if anyone has tried roasting broccoli. I had some at a
restaruant yesterday, amd it was terrible.

Hank Rogers wrote:

> Ed P wrote:
>> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along with
>>>>>>>> some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with
>>>>>>>> a bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt and one
>>>>>>>> side of the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn using a wide spatula
>>>>>>>> and cook until the other side is lightly browned and the cheese is
>>>>>>>> nicely melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove the
>>>>>>>> quesadilla to a board, let it set a minute then cut it into
>>>>>>>> triangles (kind of like slicing a small round pizza).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and the Democrat
>>>>>>> Party does not have a military uniform fetish or goose step up
>>>>>>> Pennsylvania Avenue, they are little different than the Nazi Party of
>>>>>>> 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of Germany...
>>>>>>> There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no limit to the lives to be
>>>>>>> sacrificed, no constraint on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of the
>>>>>>> rule of law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no respect
>>>>>>> for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw unbridled determination to
>>>>>>> seize power in perpetuity...
>>>>>
>>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
>>>>>> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>
>>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>>
>>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.  Will you join me?
>>>>
>>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of a great era
>>> of public education!
>>
>> This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but still
>> maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the political slant of
>> anyone so posting that stuff just interferes.
>>
>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
>> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.

> That makes me wonder if anyone has tried roasting broccoli. I had some at a
> restaruant yesterday, amd it was terrible.

There's a bunch of recipes online, but it's nothing I've ever seen anywheres, including restaurants...

--
GM

On 3/27/2024 1:49 PM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>
>> Ed P wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along
>>>>>>>>> with some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a
>>>>>>>>> skillet with a bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting
>>>>>>>>> to melt and one side of the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn
>>>>>>>>> using a wide spatula and cook until the other side is lightly
>>>>>>>>> browned and the cheese is nicely melted. Remove the skillet
>>>>>>>>> from the heat.  Remove the quesadilla to a board, let it set a
>>>>>>>>> minute then cut it into triangles (kind of like slicing a small
>>>>>>>>> round pizza).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and the
>>>>>>>> Democrat Party does not have a military uniform fetish or goose
>>>>>>>> step up Pennsylvania Avenue, they are little different than the
>>>>>>>> Nazi Party of 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of
>>>>>>>> Germany...
>>>>>>>> There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no limit to the lives to be
>>>>>>>> sacrificed, no constraint on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of
>>>>>>>> the rule of law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no
>>>>>>>> respect for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw unbridled
>>>>>>>> determination to seize power in perpetuity...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
>>>>>>> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.  Will you
>>>>> join me?
>>>>>
>>>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of a
>>>> great era of public education!
>>
>>> This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but still
>>> maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the political slant
>>> of anyone so posting that stuff just interferes.
>>
>>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
>>> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>>
>> Quit the lecturing and hectoring, Ed - you come off sounding like a
>> nag such as Jill...
>
> Ed has spoken, doesn't that mean it is our duty to obey? ;)

Nope, I'm just another contributor. Sometimes I am opinionated but have
pledged to avoid politics. I'm trying to set a good example.

On 2024-03-26, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2024-03-26 7:45 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

>> I should probably make meatloaf again soon.  I like it a lot but it's
>> not a regular thing.  I use a combination of lean ground beef and ground
>> pork, and oatmeal rather than breadcrumbs.  No ketchup slathered on the
>> top, either.

> I use bread crumbs soaked in milk. One of the big improvements I made
> was eliminating the ketchup and using a couple tablespoons of tomato
> paste instead.

Quite a few here use bread crumbs soaked in milk. I generally put
enough "liquidy stuff" in the loaf, that the bread crumbs are used to
soak that up and firm the mixture.

"liquidy stuff" is generally an egg, Worcestershire, ketchup and
Tabasco. Depending upon whimsy, maybe something else.

Ed P wrote:

> On 3/27/2024 1:49 PM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>>
>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along
>>>>>>>>>> with some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a
>>>>>>>>>> skillet with a bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting
>>>>>>>>>> to melt and one side of the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn
>>>>>>>>>> using a wide spatula and cook until the other side is lightly
>>>>>>>>>> browned and the cheese is nicely melted. Remove the skillet
>>>>>>>>>> from the heat.  Remove the quesadilla to a board, let it set a
>>>>>>>>>> minute then cut it into triangles (kind of like slicing a small
>>>>>>>>>> round pizza).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and the
>>>>>>>>> Democrat Party does not have a military uniform fetish or goose
>>>>>>>>> step up Pennsylvania Avenue, they are little different than the
>>>>>>>>> Nazi Party of 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of
>>>>>>>>> Germany...
>>>>>>>>> There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no limit to the lives to be
>>>>>>>>> sacrificed, no constraint on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of
>>>>>>>>> the rule of law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no
>>>>>>>>> respect for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw unbridled
>>>>>>>>> determination to seize power in perpetuity...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
>>>>>>>> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.  Will you
>>>>>> join me?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of a
>>>>> great era of public education!
>>>
>>>> This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but still
>>>> maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the political slant
>>>> of anyone so posting that stuff just interferes.
>>>
>>>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
>>>> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>>>
>>> Quit the lecturing and hectoring, Ed - you come off sounding like a
>>> nag such as Jill...
>>
>> Ed has spoken, doesn't that mean it is our duty to obey? ;)

> Nope, I'm just another contributor. Sometimes I am opinionated but have
> pledged to avoid politics. I'm trying to set a good example.

Stuff 'n nonsense, Ed, you *are* "a good example"...

;-)

--
GM

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:

> On 3/27/2024 1:49 PM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>>
>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along with
>>>>>>>>>> some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with
>>>>>>>>>> a bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt and one
>>>>>>>>>> side of the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn using a wide spatula
>>>>>>>>>> and cook until the other side is lightly browned and the cheese is
>>>>>>>>>> nicely melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove the
>>>>>>>>>> quesadilla to a board, let it set a minute then cut it into
>>>>>>>>>> triangles (kind of like slicing a small round pizza).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and the Democrat
>>>>>>>>> Party does not have a military uniform fetish or goose step up
>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania Avenue, they are little different than the Nazi Party
>>>>>>>>> of 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of Germany...
>>>>>>>>> There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no limit to the lives to be
>>>>>>>>> sacrificed, no constraint on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of the
>>>>>>>>> rule of law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no respect
>>>>>>>>> for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw unbridled determination to
>>>>>>>>> seize power in perpetuity...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
>>>>>>>> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.  Will you join
>>>>>> me?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of a great
>>>>> era of public education!
>>>
>>>> This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but still
>>>> maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the political slant of
>>>> anyone so posting that stuff just interferes.
>>>
>>>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
>>>> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>>>
>>> Quit the lecturing and hectoring, Ed - you come off sounding like a nag
>>> such as Jill...
>>
>> Ed has spoken, doesn't that mean it is our duty to obey? ;)
>
>
> Nope, I'm just another contributor. Sometimes I am opinionated but have
> pledged to avoid politics. I'm trying to set a good example.
>

Good for you Ed! =)

On 2024-03-27 4:57 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2024-03-26, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-26 7:45 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> I should probably make meatloaf again soon.  I like it a lot but it's
>>> not a regular thing.  I use a combination of lean ground beef and ground
>>> pork, and oatmeal rather than breadcrumbs.  No ketchup slathered on the
>>> top, either.
>
>> I use bread crumbs soaked in milk. One of the big improvements I made
>> was eliminating the ketchup and using a couple tablespoons of tomato
>> paste instead.
>
>
> Quite a few here use bread crumbs soaked in milk. I generally put
> enough "liquidy stuff" in the loaf, that the bread crumbs are used to
> soak that up and firm the mixture.
>
> "liquidy stuff" is generally an egg, Worcestershire, ketchup and
> Tabasco. Depending upon whimsy, maybe something else.
>

Worcestershire???? Damn. I thought I had remembered everything this
time. I guess it wasn't all that important because it turned out great
without it.

On 2024-03-27, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> That makes me wonder if anyone has tried roasting broccoli. I had some at a
> restaruant yesterday, amd it was terrible.

Yes, I've roasted broccoli. It was delicious.

What was terrible about the roasted broccoli at the restaurant?

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 3/26/2024 9:30 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 26/03/2024 23:45, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-26 6:04 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along with
>>>> some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with
>>>> a bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt and one
>>>> side of the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn using a wide spatula
>>>> and cook until the other side is lightly browned and the cheese is
>>>> nicely melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove the
>>>> quesadilla to a board, let it set a minute then cut it into
>>>> triangles (kind of like slicing a small round pizza).
>>>>
>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>>>
>>> I made meatloaf. It was excellent.
>>>
>> I should probably make meatloaf again soon.  I like it a lot but it's
>> not a regular thing.  I use a combination of lean ground beef and
>> ground pork, and oatmeal rather than breadcrumbs.  No ketchup
>> slathered on the top, either.
>>
> Hmm. I've not made meatloaf in ages...
> I think I'll do that this week - but not as a loaf. I'll use my silicone
> muffin pans, and make enough to freeze for later.
> I use barley in mine (I'm allergic to oats), mushrooms, onions,
> tomatoes, celery.
> And no ketchup.
> I may add some pulverised ceci/garbanzos, too.
>

I was looking at my silicone muffin pans the other day and thinking why
haven't I used them to make mini-meatloafs for the freezer? I do use
quick cooking oats as part of the binder rather than bread crumbs.

Jill

On 3/26/2024 7:58 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca cheese along with
>>> some crumbled pepperjack.  Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with a
>>> bit of hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt and one side
>>> of the tortilla is lightly browned.  Turn using a wide spatula and
>>> cook until the other side is lightly browned and the cheese is nicely
>>> melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove the quesadilla to a
>>> board, let it set a minute then cut it into triangles (kind of like
>>> slicing a small round pizza).
>>
>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other sauces, feel free.
>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> While the current iteration of the American Left and the Democrat
>
(snipped the usual crap)
> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>
You have to ask?! What did you have for dinner last night, Ed?

Jill

On 3/27/2024 10:04 AM, Ed P wrote:
> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.

I prefer roasted cauliflower over roasted broccoli. I recently bought a
nice head of cauliflower and after removing the thick green stems at the
base, sliced it into about 3/4-inch thick "steaks" rather than cutting
it into florets. Brushed each with olive oil combined with fresh lemon
juice, minced garlic, red pepper flakes and S&P. Roasted it the oven at
400F on a lined baking sheet, turning each cauliflower "steak" after
about 15 minutes and brushing again with the mixture on the other side.
Lightly browned, tender and delicious! I'd prepare it this way again.

Jill

On 3/27/2024 9:24 AM, Ed P wrote:
> On 3/27/2024 9:07 AM, GM wrote:
>> Ed P wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to you keep
>>>>> injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>
>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>
>>
>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>
>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.  Will you join
>>> me?
>>
>>
>> "Lol, Ed!
>>
>> -Jill"
>>
>
> Yeah, didn't think you would.

Naturally not. Why drag my name into it? I did not write "Lol, Ed!"
He can't stop himself from forging.

Jill

On 3/27/2024 6:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>>
> You have to ask?!  What did you have for dinner last night, Ed?
>
> Jill
>
For Christmas my daughter gave me some Kansas City Steaks and I had the
last one last night.

With it, baked potato, mushrooms and onions. I've mentioned before, the
mushrooms like my grandmother made. When done cooking, stir in a glob
of sour cream for a very rich sauce.

Put a good dent in a bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon too.

On 3/27/2024 7:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/27/2024 10:04 AM, Ed P wrote:
>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
>> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>
> I prefer roasted cauliflower over roasted broccoli.  I recently bought a
> nice head of cauliflower and after removing the thick green stems at the
> base, sliced it into about 3/4-inch thick "steaks" rather than cutting
> it into florets.  Brushed each with olive oil combined with fresh lemon
> juice, minced garlic, red pepper flakes and S&P.  Roasted it the oven at
> 400F on a lined baking sheet, turning each cauliflower "steak" after
> about 15 minutes and brushing again with the mixture on the other side.
> Lightly browned, tender and delicious!  I'd prepare it this way again.
>
> Jill

Seems broccoli is a little touch if the stalk is thick. Been a while
since I had cauliflower but roasted is very good. Your method sounds
good.

On 3/27/2024 9:03 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 3/27/2024 7:47 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/27/2024 10:04 AM, Ed P wrote:
>>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way to cook
>>> broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>>
>> I prefer roasted cauliflower over roasted broccoli.  I recently bought
>> a nice head of cauliflower and after removing the thick green stems at
>> the base, sliced it into about 3/4-inch thick "steaks" rather than
>> cutting it into florets.  Brushed each with olive oil combined with
>> fresh lemon juice, minced garlic, red pepper flakes and S&P.  Roasted
>> it the oven at 400F on a lined baking sheet, turning each cauliflower
>> "steak" after about 15 minutes and brushing again with the mixture on
>> the other side. Lightly browned, tender and delicious!  I'd prepare it
>> this way again.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Seems broccoli is a little touch if the stalk is thick.

The broccoli stalks should likely be peeled so as not to be quite so
tough. I still prefer steamed broccoli florets. No big deal.

>  Been a while
> since I had cauliflower but roasted is very good.  Your method sounds good.

It's very good!

Jill

On 3/27/2024 9:00 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 3/27/2024 6:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>
>> You have to ask?!  What did you have for dinner last night, Ed?
>>
>> Jill
>>
> For Christmas my daughter gave me some Kansas City Steaks and I had the
> last one last night.
>
> With it, baked potato, mushrooms and onions.  I've mentioned before, the
> mushrooms like my grandmother made.  When done cooking, stir in a glob
> of sour cream for a very rich sauce.
>
> Put a good dent in a bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon too.

:) That beats the heck out of any of the troll replies.

Jill

Leonard Blaisdell wrote :

> Quite a few here use bread crumbs soaked in milk. I generally put
> enough "liquidy stuff" in the loaf, that the bread crumbs are used to
> soak that up and firm the mixture.
>
> "liquidy stuff" is generally an egg, Worcestershire, ketchup and
> Tabasco. Depending upon whimsy, maybe something else.

There are so many variations on meatloaf, decided to go to THE source
for accurate food information, ideas and technique.
https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-all-american-meatloaf-excerpt-recipe

Best takeaways from the article -
"now for a few ingredients to up the meaty backbone of the loaf,
namely deploying my trusty umami bombs: anchovies, Marmite, and soy
sauce. All three of these ingredients are rich in glutamates and
inosinates"

"Mixing this flavor base into my meat produced a mixture wetter than
any other meatloaf mix I'd seen. This led to a moister end product
(that retained moisture with the help of the gelatin), but it proved
problematic when shaping the loaf. I could bake it in a loaf pan, but
I prefer making free form loaves on a baking sheet to maximize
surface area for flavorful browning or glazing. The solution was to
use a hybrid method. I packed my meatloaf mix into a loaf pan,
covered it with foil, and then inverted the whole thing onto a rimmed
baking sheet, spreading out the foil so that I now had a foil-lined
baking sheet with an inverted meatloaf and loaf pan on top of it. I
baked this way for about half an hour - just long enough to set its
shape - and then used a spatula and kitchen towels to lift off the
pan. The result was a perfectly loaf-shaped meatloaf (just right for
slicing into sandwiches), with all the advantages of a free-form loaf
and its extra surface area."

https://www.seriouseats.com/thmb/hL-CJwIwJTAYUqOTdbp9h52n0xg=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/the-food-labs-all-american-meatloaf-step6-f94b7d0c54504fabb30c494883131ea1.jpg

https://www.seriouseats.com/thmb/-Evo9l8CmQq6nKJMqB_K_HnuHLE=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/the-food-labs-all-american-meatloaf-step7-55593cf01d2c49c291f0c0bac03ffc67.jpg

https://www.seriouseats.com/thmb/0IB4QuYirSDTuE6y2FXXLfR8VKY=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/the-food-labs-all-american-meatloaf-Step8-e8104d5bc436498fba87fb2531eddbf5.jpg

I don't make meatloaf frequently and never would thought of putting
anchovies and Marmite in meatloaf. Have tried to make a free form
meatloaf several times and went back to baking in a pan. Next time I'll
do the partial bake in a pan technique. Might even try it with a
sillycone muffin pan - portion control and lots of crusty surface area.

--
"I jotted down three names: Julia Child, Mr. Wizard and Monty Python"
A. Brown

Ed P wrote:

> On 3/27/2024 1:49 PM, D wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
> >
> > > Ed P wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
> > > > > > > Ed P wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
> > > > > > > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca
> > > > > > > > > > cheese along with some crumbled pepperjack. 
> > > > > > > > > > Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with a bit of
> > > > > > > > > > hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt
> > > > > > > > > > and one side of the tortilla is lightly browned. 
> > > > > > > > > > Turn using a wide spatula and cook until the other
> > > > > > > > > > side is lightly browned and the cheese is nicely
> > > > > > > > > > melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove
> > > > > > > > > > the quesadilla to a board, let it set a minute
> > > > > > > > > > then cut it into triangles (kind of like slicing a
> > > > > > > > > > small round pizza).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other
> > > > > > > > > > sauces, feel free.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jill
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > While the current iteration of the American Left and
> > > > > > > > > the Democrat Party does not have a military uniform
> > > > > > > > > fetish or goose step up Pennsylvania Avenue, they
> > > > > > > > > are little different than the Nazi Party of
> > > > > > > > > 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of
> > > > > > > > > Germany... There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no
> > > > > > > > > limit to the lives to be sacrificed, no constraint
> > > > > > > > > on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of the rule of
> > > > > > > > > law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no
> > > > > > > > > respect for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw
> > > > > > > > > unbridled determination to seize power in
> > > > > > > > > perpetuity...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to
> > > > > > > > you keep injecting political stuff into a food post?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You do it ALL the time, Ed...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Usually to answer your crap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I pledge to not post anything political in this group. 
> > > > > > Will you join me?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of
> > > > > a great era of public education!
> > >
> > > > This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but
> > > > still maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the
> > > > political slant of anyone so posting that stuff just
> > > > interferes.
> > >
> > > > If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way
> > > > to cook broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
> > >
> > > Quit the lecturing and hectoring, Ed - you come off sounding like
> > > a nag such as Jill...
> >
> > Ed has spoken, doesn't that mean it is our duty to obey? ;)
>
>
> Nope, I'm just another contributor. Sometimes I am opinionated but
> have pledged to avoid politics. I'm trying to set a good example.

Notice I;m not in political threads much at all?

On 3/28/2024 9:18 AM, heyjoe wrote:
> Leonard Blaisdell wrote :
>
>> Quite a few here use bread crumbs soaked in milk. I generally put
>> enough "liquidy stuff" in the loaf, that the bread crumbs are used to
>> soak that up and firm the mixture.
>>
>> "liquidy stuff" is generally an egg, Worcestershire, ketchup and
>> Tabasco. Depending upon whimsy, maybe something else.
>
> There are so many variations on meatloaf, decided to go to THE source
> for accurate food information, ideas and technique.
> https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-all-american-meatloaf-excerpt-recipe
>
> Best takeaways from the article -
> "now for a few ingredients to up the meaty backbone of the loaf,
> namely deploying my trusty umami bombs: anchovies, Marmite, and soy
> sauce. All three of these ingredients are rich in glutamates and
> inosinates"
>
> "Mixing this flavor base into my meat produced a mixture wetter than
> any other meatloaf mix I'd seen. This led to a moister end product
> (that retained moisture with the help of the gelatin), but it proved
> problematic when shaping the loaf. I could bake it in a loaf pan, but
> I prefer making free form loaves on a baking sheet to maximize
> surface area for flavorful browning or glazing. The solution was to
> use a hybrid method. I packed my meatloaf mix into a loaf pan,
> covered it with foil, and then inverted the whole thing onto a rimmed
> baking sheet, spreading out the foil so that I now had a foil-lined
> baking sheet with an inverted meatloaf and loaf pan on top of it. I
> baked this way for about half an hour - just long enough to set its
> shape - and then used a spatula and kitchen towels to lift off the
> pan. The result was a perfectly loaf-shaped meatloaf (just right for
> slicing into sandwiches), with all the advantages of a free-form loaf
> and its extra surface area."
>
> https://www.seriouseats.com/thmb/hL-CJwIwJTAYUqOTdbp9h52n0xg=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/the-food-labs-all-american-meatloaf-step6-f94b7d0c54504fabb30c494883131ea1.jpg
>
> https://www.seriouseats.com/thmb/-Evo9l8CmQq6nKJMqB_K_HnuHLE=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/the-food-labs-all-american-meatloaf-step7-55593cf01d2c49c291f0c0bac03ffc67.jpg
>
> https://www.seriouseats.com/thmb/0IB4QuYirSDTuE6y2FXXLfR8VKY=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/the-food-labs-all-american-meatloaf-Step8-e8104d5bc436498fba87fb2531eddbf5.jpg
>
> I don't make meatloaf frequently and never would thought of putting
> anchovies and Marmite in meatloaf. Have tried to make a free form
> meatloaf several times and went back to baking in a pan. Next time I'll
> do the partial bake in a pan technique. Might even try it with a
> sillycone muffin pan - portion control and lots of crusty surface area.
>
I wouldn't have thought of putting anchovies or Marmite in meatloaf,
much less gelatin. I do like the partial bake in a pan idea for forming
the loaf. :)

Jill

On 3/28/2024 1:48 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Ed P wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2024 1:49 PM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca
>>>>>>>>>>> cheese along with some crumbled pepperjack.
>>>>>>>>>>> Cooked on the stovetop in a skillet with a bit of
>>>>>>>>>>> hot butter until the cheese is starting to melt
>>>>>>>>>>> and one side of the tortilla is lightly browned.
>>>>>>>>>>> Turn using a wide spatula and cook until the other
>>>>>>>>>>> side is lightly browned and the cheese is nicely
>>>>>>>>>>> melted. Remove the skillet from the heat.  Remove
>>>>>>>>>>> the quesadilla to a board, let it set a minute
>>>>>>>>>>> then cut it into triangles (kind of like slicing a
>>>>>>>>>>> small round pizza).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other
>>>>>>>>>>> sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and
>>>>>>>>>> the Democrat Party does not have a military uniform
>>>>>>>>>> fetish or goose step up Pennsylvania Avenue, they
>>>>>>>>>> are little different than the Nazi Party of
>>>>>>>>>> 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of
>>>>>>>>>> Germany... There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no
>>>>>>>>>> limit to the lives to be sacrificed, no constraint
>>>>>>>>>> on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of the rule of
>>>>>>>>>> law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no
>>>>>>>>>> respect for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw
>>>>>>>>>> unbridled determination to seize power in
>>>>>>>>>> perpetuity...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to
>>>>>>>>> you keep injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.
>>>>>>> Will you join me?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of
>>>>>> a great era of public education!
>>>>
>>>>> This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but
>>>>> still maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the
>>>>> political slant of anyone so posting that stuff just
>>>>> interferes.
>>>>
>>>>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way
>>>>> to cook broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>>>>
>>>> Quit the lecturing and hectoring, Ed - you come off sounding like
>>>> a nag such as Jill...
>>>
>>> Ed has spoken, doesn't that mean it is our duty to obey? ;)
>>
>>
>> Nope, I'm just another contributor. Sometimes I am opinionated but
>> have pledged to avoid politics. I'm trying to set a good example.
>
> Notice I;m not in political threads much at all?

No, but you encourage the trolls. 'D' is the latest one.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/28/2024 1:48 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Ed P wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/2024 1:49 PM, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheese along  with some crumbled pepperjack.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cooked on the stovetop in a  skillet with a bit of
>>>>>>>>>>>> hot butter until the cheese is starting  to melt
>>>>>>>>>>>> and one side of the tortilla is lightly browned.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Turn  using a wide spatula and cook until the other
>>>>>>>>>>>> side is lightly  browned and the cheese is nicely
>>>>>>>>>>>> melted. Remove the skillet  from the heat.  Remove
>>>>>>>>>>>> the quesadilla to a board, let it set a  minute
>>>>>>>>>>>> then cut it into triangles (kind of like slicing a
>>>>>>>>>>>> small  round pizza).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other
>>>>>>>>>>>> sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and
>>>>>>>>>>> the  Democrat Party does not have a military uniform
>>>>>>>>>>> fetish or goose  step up Pennsylvania Avenue, they
>>>>>>>>>>> are little different than the  Nazi Party of
>>>>>>>>>>> 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of
>>>>>>>>>>> Germany...  There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no
>>>>>>>>>>> limit to the lives to be  sacrificed, no constraint
>>>>>>>>>>> on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of  the rule of
>>>>>>>>>>> law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no
>>>>>>>>>>> respect for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw
>>>>>>>>>>> unbridled  determination to seize power in
>>>>>>>>>>> perpetuity...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to
>>>>>>>>>> you keep  injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.
>>>>>>>> Will you  join me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of
>>>>>>> a  great era of public education!
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but
>>>>>> still  maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the
>>>>>> political slant  of anyone so posting that stuff just
>>>>>> interferes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way
>>>>>> to cook  broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quit the lecturing and hectoring, Ed - you come off sounding like
>>>>> a  nag such as Jill...
>>>>
>>>> Ed has spoken, doesn't that mean it is our duty to obey? ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, I'm just another contributor.  Sometimes I am opinionated but
>>> have pledged to avoid politics.  I'm trying to set a good example.
>>
>> Notice I;m not in political threads much at all?
>
> No, but you encourage the trolls.  'D' is the latest one.
>
> Jill

Hell fire, yoose majesty. There are only about five people here that are
not a troll in yoose highness' book.

You should just ban everyone else, and your blood pressure would surely drop.

Hank Rogers wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/28/2024 1:48 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2024 1:49 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/27/2024 9:52 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2024 6:15 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ed P wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2024 7:14 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using large 2 10" round flour tortillas.  Oaxaca
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheese along  with some crumbled pepperjack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cooked on the stovetop in a  skillet with a bit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hot butter until the cheese is starting  to melt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and one side of the tortilla is lightly browned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Turn  using a wide spatula and cook until the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> side is lightly  browned and the cheese is nicely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> melted. Remove the skillet  from the heat.  Remove
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the quesadilla to a board, let it set a  minute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then cut it into triangles (kind of like slicing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> small  round pizza).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you feel like adding salsa or pico or other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sauces, feel free.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> While the current iteration of the American Left and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the  Democrat Party does not have a military uniform
>>>>>>>>>>>> fetish or goose  step up Pennsylvania Avenue, they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are little different than the  Nazi Party of
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1927-1934 in their pursuit of one-party control of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany...  There is no tactic out-of-bounds, no
>>>>>>>>>>>> limit to the lives to be  sacrificed, no constraint
>>>>>>>>>>>> on lawlessness, no acknowledgment of  the rule of
>>>>>>>>>>>> law, no deference to a written Constitution, and no
>>>>>>>>>>>> respect for the dignity of mankind -- just a raw
>>>>>>>>>>>> unbridled  determination to seize power in
>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetuity...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with dinner tonight?  Why to
>>>>>>>>>>> you keep  injecting political stuff into a food post?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You do it ALL the time, Ed...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Usually to answer your crap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I pledge to not post anything political in this group.
>>>>>>>>> Will you  join me?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Think carefully before responding... that could be the end of
>>>>>>>> a  great era of public education!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a food related group.  We do go off topic at times but
>>>>>>> still  maintain overall focus.  No one has ever changed the
>>>>>>> political slant  of anyone so posting that stuff just
>>>>>>> interferes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want public education here, let's discuss the best way
>>>>>>> to cook  broccoli and roasting vs steaming cauliflower.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quit the lecturing and hectoring, Ed - you come off sounding like
>>>>>> a  nag such as Jill...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed has spoken, doesn't that mean it is our duty to obey? ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope, I'm just another contributor.  Sometimes I am opinionated but
>>>> have pledged to avoid politics.  I'm trying to set a good example.
>>>
>>> Notice I;m not in political threads much at all?
>>
>> No, but you encourage the trolls.  'D' is the latest one.
>>
>> Jill

> Hell fire, yoose majesty. There are only about five people here that are
> not a troll in yoose highness' book.

> You should just ban everyone else, and your blood pressure would surely drop.

*But* high blood pressure can "shorten" one's lifespan, Sire Hank...

So what's *not* to love, eh...???

--
GM