On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>
>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>
>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>
>Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:

Your use of quotes is noted.

On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>
>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>
>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>
>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>
> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
> food.
>
> I see.
>
> [chuckle]

Are you Italian in nationality or descent?

If so...YES!

>> Tacos and Burritos ARE "Mexican food', Churros too.
>
> Calling it a taco doesn't make it a taco.

A taco is food served in a corn tortilla, some even make Korean style tacos.

But the taco itself remains a Mexican mainstay.

You argue poorly and with a penchant for self-lampoonery.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:09:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 11:56 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:51:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/18/2021 4:42 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>> hair...
>>>>>>>>> are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>
>>>> You are a racist.
>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican Food.
>>>
>>> Yes it is:
>>
>>
>> No. It's not.
>>
>> Taco Bell first attempted to open a location across the border in
>> Mexico City in 1992. After that failed, they tried again with a
>> different concept in 2007, but that, too, was unsuccessful.
>
>So?

So, Mexicans wouldn't even eat it.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>
>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>
>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>> food.
>>
>> I see.
>>
>> [chuckle]
>
>
>Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>
>If so...YES!

Wrong.

On 5/22/2021 11:59 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:53:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 11:51 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:42:46 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/19/2021 12:41 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>>>>> hair...are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican food. And Mexican is a nationality, not
>>>>>>> a race.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not only to I eat mexican food, I have said many time's that Taco Bell is
>>>>>>>> one of my top favorite restourant's. How could all thi sbe possible if I
>>>>>>>> was a racist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>
>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>
>> What seems to be "apparent" to your imagination is only drab dissonance
>> in lieu of factual refutation.
>
> It's obvious you've never had Mexican food. Better?
>
>>>> Hint - try the Egg Foo Young
>>>
>>> That's not Mexican either.
>>
>> Never said it was, dummy.
>
> Yet you brought it up in a discussion about Taco Bell's fake Mexican
> food.
>
> Are you confused?
>
I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.

Sort of like Kenny Rogers Roasters (American food) being big in Indonesia.

It remains regardless an American cuisine:

http://kennyrogersroasters.com/

Popular Country and Western singer, Kenny Rogers and former Governor of
the state of Kentucky, John Y. Brown Junior, originally set up Kenny
Rogers ROASTERS in 1991. Seeing an opportunity to provide healthy and
delicious food in a restaurant environment, Kenny Rogers ROASTERS opened
its first restaurant in Coral Spring, Florida in August 1991.

Kenny Rogers ROASTERS is a casual dining restaurant with
rotisserie-roasted chicken as its main core item complemented by a rich
variety of hot and cold side dishes. This is made up of Kenny Rogers
ROASTERS famous homemade muffins, jacket potatoes, vegetable salads,
pastas, soups, desserts and beverages served in a friendly and
comfortable environment.

Ethnic fare remains true to its national origins regardless of who
interprets, serves it, or where it is served:

https://us.campero.com/

In 1971 in _Guatemala_, we started Pollo Campero, a unique food
experience that’s full of life and seasoned with a little zest. But
it’s not just any food. We’re talking about marinated to the bone,
slow-down-and-enjoy-every-bite, food. Flavor that’s more than skin
deep—that’s bold, complex and a little unexpected. Flavor that is not
only in our food but baked into our DNA and expressed with our passion.

We believe some things should never change. Our fried chicken is
specially hand-breaded. Our signature drinks and sides are prepared
fresh daily. Our garden-fresh salads are made in house, every single
day. And yes, it’s a lot of hard work. But for us, that’s important.
Those extra steps ensure that every bite is as wholesome and as
flavorful as the last. And that’s something we believe should never change.

To us, Campero means flavor. A deep, rich and unique taste that can only
be obtained by uniting the freshest ingredients with the best,
complementary spices. It’s about combining generations of family recipes
into the perfect, savory bite. And it’s about the people. The
hardworking Campero family that brings the food to life. Food that is
lovingly made from scratch, with a signature flavor that brings everyone
together.

https://www.recipelink.com/msgbrd/board_37/2006/OCT/868.html

On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>
>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>
>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>
> Your use of quotes is noted.
>
It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.

On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:09:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 11:56 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:51:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/18/2021 4:42 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>>> hair...
>>>>>>>>>> are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are a racist.
>>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican Food.
>>>>
>>>> Yes it is:
>>>
>>>
>>> No. It's not.
>>>
>>> Taco Bell first attempted to open a location across the border in
>>> Mexico City in 1992. After that failed, they tried again with a
>>> different concept in 2007, but that, too, was unsuccessful.
>>
>> So?
>
> So, Mexicans wouldn't even eat it.
>

Due to a local cost imbalance as cited.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.

So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.

Thanks!

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>
>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>
>It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.

It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.

On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>>
>>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>>> food.
>>>
>>> I see.
>>>
>>> [chuckle]
>>
>>
>> Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>>
>> If so...YES!
>
> Wrong.
>

There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.

I think you should stick to schnitzel.

On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>
> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.

I do not, no.

I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.

> Thanks!

Always ready to lampoon your non sequitur rhetoric.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>
>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>
>I do not, no.
>
>I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.

Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:24:56 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>>>> food.
>>>>
>>>> I see.
>>>>
>>>> [chuckle]
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>>>
>>> If so...YES!
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>
>There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.

Sounds racist. I will introduce you to Jenny.

On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>
>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>
>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>
> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>
Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.

Tacos and burritos are accepted to be "Mexican food", even with a
Bulgogi filling.

You dummy.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:23:40 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:09:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 11:56 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:51:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/2021 4:42 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>>>> hair...
>>>>>>>>>>> are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a racist.
>>>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican Food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes it is:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>
>>>> Taco Bell first attempted to open a location across the border in
>>>> Mexico City in 1992. After that failed, they tried again with a
>>>> different concept in 2007, but that, too, was unsuccessful.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> So, Mexicans wouldn't even eat it.
>>
>
>Due to a local cost imbalance as cited.

CLearly you didn't read the article.

Due to the fact that it wasn't Mexican food.

On 5/22/2021 12:26 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>
>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>
>> I do not, no.
>>
>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>
> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>

Facts are easy to believe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell

He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
the Long Beach area.[6]

Glen Bell learned how to make tacos from the Mitla Café.[7][8][9]

In 1962, he went solo and sold the El Tacos to his partner and opened
his first Taco Bell. Bell franchised his restaurant in 1964.[4] His
company grew rapidly, and the 868-restaurant chain was later sold to
PepsiCo in 1978 for $125 million in stock.

https://www.kalw.org/show/crosscurrents/2018-07-25/so-much-more-than-tacos-san-bernardinos-mitla-cafe

“Glen Bell noticed we did a lot of business with our tacos,” says
current co-owner Steve Oquendo. “My great-grandfather Salvador brought
him into the kitchen and kind of showed him how we did it. He took the
concept and ran with it from there to what Taco Bell is today,” he says,
laughing. That story was mostly told inside the neighborhood until the
2012 publication of Gustavo Arellano’s "Taco USA."

On 5/22/2021 12:27 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:24:56 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>>>>> food.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see.
>>>>>
>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>>>>
>>>> If so...YES!
>>>
>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>
>> There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>> person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.
>
> Sounds racist.

Only to an actual racist.

> I will introduce you to Jenny.

Who's that?

On 5/22/2021 12:27 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:23:40 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:09:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:56 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:51:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/18/2021 4:42 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>>>>> hair...
>>>>>>>>>>>> are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are a racist.
>>>>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican Food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it is:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taco Bell first attempted to open a location across the border in
>>>>> Mexico City in 1992. After that failed, they tried again with a
>>>>> different concept in 2007, but that, too, was unsuccessful.
>>>>
>>>> So?
>>>
>>> So, Mexicans wouldn't even eat it.
>>>
>>
>> Due to a local cost imbalance as cited.
>
> CLearly you didn't read the article.

Yes I did, but you opted out - obviously...

https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/

There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
price. At the Taco Bell locations that opened in Mexico in 1992, tacos
and a small beverage were being sold for what amounted to around $3.25
USD. _The issue was somebody could grab a presumably better tasting
street cart taco for considerably less than what Taco Bell charged._ By
contrast, GoNomad estimates that even in 2017, the average street taco
lunch in Mexico City cost around $2 USD, whereas a sit-down meal in a
restaurant would set you back the cost equivalent of about $10 USD per
person. For most people, it's a no-brainer to choose the authentic
street food version of a taco in the place where tacos were invented
over a fast-food approximation, especially when the lesser version is
two or three times more expensive.

> Due to the fact that it wasn't Mexican food.

Nope, it wasn't cheap LOCAL "Mexican food".

During their 2007 second wave of restaurants in Mexico, Taco Bell made
another critical error when it came to pricing and targeting the right
demographic for their product. Other American chains that saw success in
Mexico, like Starbucks, put their locations in wealthier neighborhoods.
Taco Bell put their restaurants in middle-class neighborhoods, trying to
target Mexicans who had never traveled to the U.S. or tasted Taco Bell's
offerings. However, their plan missed the mark, and the brand never saw
the success Starbucks, McDonald's, and Kentucky Fried Chicken found in
Mexico.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:33:44 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>price.

Right. Why should they buy AMERICANIZED food at that price when
MEXICAN food is cheaper?

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:26 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>
>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>
>>> I do not, no.
>>>
>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>
>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>>
>
>Facts are easy to believe.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>
> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>the Long Beach area.[6]

But not in Mexico.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:27:21 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>
>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>
>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>
>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>
>Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.

Except for the fact that Mexicans didn't want to pay for AMERICANIZED
Mexican food.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:30:29 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:27 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:24:56 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>>>>>> food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so...YES!
>>>>
>>>> Wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>>> person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.
>>
>> Sounds racist.
>
>Only to an actual racist.

You'd have to be racist to claim a Mexican can't cook Italian food as
well as an Italian.

On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:33:44 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>> Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>> Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>> price.
>
> Right. Why should they buy AMERICANIZED food at that price when
> MEXICAN food is cheaper?
>

In that _specific instance_ the food of the host nation was a domestic
product of Mexico, then again so was the Toxic Bell fare they were peddling.

Both = Mexican food, the local iteration however was more "authentic"
than Bell's effort.

But you already knew that, you useless arguebot.

On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 12:26 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>
>>>> I do not, no.
>>>>
>>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>>
>>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>>>
>>
>> Facts are easy to believe.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>>
>> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>> cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>> 1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>> selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>> the Long Beach area.[6]
>
> But not in Mexico.
>
Are you stupid?

Or just a congenital liar?

Taco Bell indeed opened stores in Mexico:

https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/

When Taco Bell first tried to expand into Mexico in 1992, they decided
to start small. Most of the U.S. stores at the time were full-fledged
quick service restaurants complete with drive-through windows and
seating areas, done up in the Art Deco-meets-Spanish Colonial style that
defined the brand in the late 80s and early 90s. For their first
location in Mexico City, however, Taco Bell decided to do something
entirely different. Rather than launching in the home of the taco with a
brick and mortar location, they launched in Mexico City with a food
cart. While this did represent a sort of nod to the street carts that
made tacos a thing in the first place, the first Taco Bell in Mexico was
actually built inside of a Kentucky Fried Chicken location.

The 9-foot long buffet table sold a fairly standard Taco Bell menu, sans
hard tacos. Around the same time, Taco Bell opened a few additional
standalone locations in Mexico, but the concept just never resonated
with locals. By 1994, two years after their initial foray into Mexico,
all of the Taco Bell locations there were shuttered.

On 5/22/2021 12:45 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:27:21 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>>
>>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>>
>>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>>
>>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>>
>> Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.
>
> Except for the fact that Mexicans didn't want to pay for AMERICANIZED
> Mexican food.
>
What they wish to pay for or not in no way alters the definition of what
comprises "Mexican food", you 3 letter agency arguebot troll.

https://www.definitions.net/definition/mexican%20food

Mexican food

Mexican cuisine is a style of food which is primarily a fusion of
indigenous Mesoamerican cooking with European, especially Spanish,
cooking developed after the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire. The
basic staples remain the native corn, beans and chili peppers but the
Europeans introduced a large number of other foods, the most important
of which were meat from domesticated animals, dairy products and various
herbs and spices. While the Spanish initially tried to impose their diet
on the country, this was not possible and eventually the foods and
cooking techniques began to be mixed, especially in colonial era
convents. Over the centuries, this resulted in various regional
cuisines, based on local conditions such as those in the north, Oaxaca,
Veracruz and the Yucatan Peninsula. Mexican cuisine is highly tied to
the culture, social structure and its popular traditions, the most
important example of which is the use of mole for special occasions and
holidays, particularly in the South region of the country. For this
reason and others, Mexican cuisine was added by UNESCO to its list of
the world’s "intangible cultural heritage".

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mexican%20food

2
mexican food
It's almost always...
....A tortilla with meat, cheese and lettuce.
No, seriously.
What is a taco? A tortilla with meat, cheese and lettuce.
What is a burrtio? A tortilla with meat, cheese and lettuce.
What is a fajita? A tortilla with meat, cheese and lettuce.
What are nachos? Little tortillas with meat, cheese and lettuce.

But seriously. Mexican food is food from Mexico.
And it's good.
:D

Mexican food
Something better than food, its almost a way of life. Tortilla with
meat, cheese, and veggies. Cant go wrong there. Dirt cheap too!