On Sun, 23 May 2021 13:20:47 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/23/2021 12:40 PM, KWills wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:24:29 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>>>>> There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>>>>>>>>> person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds racist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only to an actual racist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'd have to be racist to claim a Mexican can't cook Italian food as
>>>>>> well as an Italian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd have to be a practicing racist
>>>>
>>>> You seem to have plenty of practice. Racist.
>>>
>>> You need to stop projecting your strawman racism onto others, racist dummy.
>>
>> What causes you to believe your projection will benefit you? I
>> really want to know. Not that I expect you to answer honestly, if at
>> all.
>
>The facts.
>

That makes NO sense.

>You?

I rely on the truth. Something you clearly HATE.

--
"Hail imp," shouted Vlad, the Imp Hailer.

On 5/23/2021 12:43 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:38:12 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:29 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:09:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican Food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it is:
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taco Bell first attempted to open a location across the border in
>>>>> Mexico City in 1992. After that failed, they tried again with a
>>>>> different concept in 2007, but that, too, was unsuccessful.
>>>>
>>>> So?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/
>>>>
>>>> There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>>>> Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>>>> Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>>>> price
>>>
>>> You offer ANOTHER cite that shows Taco Bell is not Mexican food.
>>
>> Your inept reading comprehension is again noted.
>>
>>> In this case, your cite states, "...Americanized version of their
>>> native food..."
>>
>> Yes, Americans do modify most ethnic cuisines, like pizza, tacos and
>> stir fry.
>>
>
> Way to admit, again, that Taco Bell does not serve Mexican food.

A taco or burrito IS "Mexican food", no matter how it is filled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

> But "MEXICAN food simply inspired by Mexican dishes.

Yep:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

>>
>>> Maybe you should find a newsgroup frequented by preschoolers. You
>>> will fit in quite well.
>>
>> Maybe your advice is bet taken by yourself, strawman troll.
>
> Aw, did I hit a little too close to home?

Unlikely.

> I thought I was posting
> a lame insult.

Nice of you to admit it.

> But your reaction shows it bothers you far more than it
> should.
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

On 5/23/2021 12:44 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:39:06 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:29 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:23:40 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:09:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:56 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:51:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2021 4:42 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hair...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>>>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are a racist.
>>>>>>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican Food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes it is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Taco Bell first attempted to open a location across the border in
>>>>>>> Mexico City in 1992. After that failed, they tried again with a
>>>>>>> different concept in 2007, but that, too, was unsuccessful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So?
>>>>>
>>>>> So, Mexicans wouldn't even eat it.
>>>>
>>>> Due to a local cost imbalance as cited.
>>>
>>> No,
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>
> Nope.

Liar.

>
>>> due to it being Americanized version of their native food.
>>> Your own cite stated this.
>>
>> Secondarily.
>>
>
> Do you really think lying will help you?
> Serious question you will never answer. Certainly not honestly.
>
>> Cost imbalance came first.
>>
>> Then location.
>>
>> Then recipe angst.
>>
>> Stop lying, troll.
>
> Projection is not the benefit

So stop doing it then.

On 5/23/2021 12:44 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:39:45 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:29 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:24:09 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
>>> <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>
>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> It's almost funny how often he (I'm still presuming male) admits
>>> this.
>>>
>> Not as "funny" as how many times you lie to fluff Klaus' trollish
>> semantic nuttery.
>
> Your projection of your lying fails. Again.

Stop projecting, fluffer.

> You may find it a benefit to cease lying with every post. But, I
> suspect, you are not able to stop. Time will tell, of course.
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

On 5/23/2021 12:44 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:40:51 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:30 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>
>>>> I do not, no.
>>>>
>>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>>>
>>> So NOT Mexican. Got it.
>>
>> So wrong again you are:
>
> You have admitted, and proved, multiple times, that it is NOT
> Mexican food that is available at Taco Bell.

Nope:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

> Do you get some sort of pleasure at being made to look the fool?
> Based on your posts, which is all I have to use, you do.
>

Projecting again?

On 5/23/2021 12:44 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:41:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:30 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not, no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>>>>
>>>> Facts are easy to believe.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>>>>
>>>> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>>>> cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>>>> 1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>>>> selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>>>> the Long Beach area.[6]
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> So it was started by a white guy, NOT a Mexican.
>>
>> And?
>
> If further proves you KNOW Taco Bell isn't authentic Mexican
> food.
>

Liar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

>>
>>> I'm so glad you've come around to reality.
>>
>> I never stated otherwise, fool.
>
> You kept claiming Taco Bell serves Mexican food. Now you claim
> you've always held the position it is not.
> Pick a lane, simpleton.
>

You lie and misrepresent always.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

On 5/23/2021 12:45 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:41:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:30 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>
>>> I like how you used scare quotes.
>>
>> What are those?
>>
>
> So you dropped out of school before sixth grade.

Nope.

You?

> Your posts make
> a lot more sense now.

Try parsing "Mexican food" now:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scare%20quotes
>
> : quotation marks used to express especially skepticism or derision
> concerning the use of the enclosed word or phrase.
>
> I suggest you get your GED before you try to troll any further.
>

"First Known Use of scare quotes
1956"

Sounds hopelessly archaic to me.

How are you on Latin?

On 5/23/2021 12:45 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:42:21 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:31 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:11:34 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
>>> <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>
>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>
>>> zelgensetter isn't very bright.
>>>
>> And you're not even remotely truthful.
>>
>> Pick which is worse, liar.
>
> Your continued use of projection

No yours, troll.

On 5/23/2021 12:45 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:43:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:31 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>>
>>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>>
>>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>>
>>> So you didn't make it to third grade English class. Scare quotes
>>> are used to denote mocking or irony.
>>>
>>
>> Are they?
>>
>> Citation?
>>
>> Lol.
>>
>> Have a strawman, with egg foo young...
>>
>> :-)))
>
> Ibid.
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

On 5/23/2021 12:46 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:44:35 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:31 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:27:21 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>> Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.
>>>>
>>>> Tacos and burritos are accepted to be "Mexican food", even with a
>>>> Bulgogi filling.
>>>>
>>>> You dummy.
>>>
>>> By YOUR standards, tacos are French.
>>
>> Incorrect.
>>
>
> I ate a taco while in France, made by French workers, using a
> presumably French recipe.

I doubt it.

> By YOUR standards, this makes tacos French.

Nope.

It makes them made in France.

> I'm using YOUR standards.

Nope.

>>> Are you claiming you LIED when you presented the nationality of
>>> the prepare makes the dish of that nationality?
>>
>> Any "Mexican food" prepared by Mexicans is obviously "Mexican food"
>
> Your continued use of scare quotes denotes you realize the truth.

This truth:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

>>
>> Just and any "Mexican food" prepared by the French or Americans is still
>> "Mexican food".
>
> Your lying fails.

Yours always has.

> It's clearly INSPIRED by Mexican food.

And it also IS "Mexican food":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

> To
> anyone who can be honest, this isn't the same as authentic Mexican
> food.

The definition of "Mexican food" does not rely on authenticity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

> Sadly, you are incapable of honesty. A truth you keep proving.
> I'm sure you will continue to prove this. Though time will tell,
> of course.
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

On 5/23/2021 12:48 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:45:56 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.
>>>>
>>>> Except for the fact that Mexicans didn't want to pay for AMERICANIZED
>>>> Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Certainly not at the prices being charged for the AMERICANIZED
>>> Mexican food.
>>
>> Good lard - you actually got something right!@@!!!
>>
>
> Again you admit it's not authentic Mexican food, but Americanized
> Mexican food.

Authenticity is not in the definition:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

> What will you do to try, and fail, to divert from the truth?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))
>
>> Hows about a nice Kenny Rogers Roaster
>
> Pass. When I'm in the mood for chicken, I go to Pollo a La Brasa
> Western.

Never heard of that, wrong part of the country I suppose.

1. Pollo a La Brasa Western
764 S Western Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90005

2. Pollo Ala Brasa
16527 S Vermont Ave
Gardena, CA 90247

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/274400/pollo-a-la-brasa-peruvian-grilled-chicken/

And apparently Peruvian, not Mexican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollo_a_la_Brasa

Pollo a la brasa, pollo asado, blackened chicken or rotisserie chicken
in the United States and charcoal chicken in Australia, is a common dish
and one of the most consumed in Latin America. It is one of the most
popular dishes in Peru, along with ceviche, papa a la huancaina,
Salchipapa, and chifa; the Peruvian variant of the dish originated in
the city of Lima in the 1950s. It is also popular in Colombian,
Brazilian cuisine and Venezuela.

Pollo a la brasa can now be found in eateries all throughout the U.S.
and is considered to be a staple item on the menu of Peruvian/American
fusion restaurants.

> I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Kenny Rogers
> Roasters (Note the letter s at the end. Normally I wouldn't point it
> out, since your meaning was and is clear, but you felt it necessary to
> harp on a typo, so I've adopted your standards for this point), but
> it's just not what I like.

They were far better than Boston Chicken in their day.

Likely still are.

>
>> and 3o lashes for your chewing
>> gum infraction lol!~
>
> I'm sure that makes sense to you, but to people who know English,
> well, we're lost.
>

Pollo a la brasa can now be found in eateries all throughout the U.S.
and is considered to be a staple item on the menu of Peruvian/American
fusion restaurants.

On 5/23/2021 12:49 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:46:20 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:23:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:33:44 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>>>>>> Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>>>>>> Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>>>>>> price.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right. Why should they buy AMERICANIZED food at that price when
>>>>> MEXICAN food is cheaper?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In that _specific instance_ the food of the host nation was a domestic
>>>> product of Mexico, then again so was the Toxic Bell fare they were peddling.
>>>>
>>>> Both = Mexican food, the local iteration however was more "authentic"
>>>> than Bell's effort.
>>>>
>>>> But you already knew that, you useless arguebot.
>>>
>>> Once again you acknowledge that Taco Bell is NOT Mexican food.
>>>
>> Once again you nakedly LIE.
>
> Your projection

No yours.

On 5/23/2021 12:49 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:47:15 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 4:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:27:35 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:26 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>>>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not, no.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facts are easy to believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>>>>>> cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>>>>>> 1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>>>>>> selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>>>>>> the Long Beach area.[6]
>>>>>
>>>>> But not in Mexico.
>>>>>
>>>> Are you stupid?
>>>>
>>>> Or just a congenital liar?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Klaus has PROVED you WRONG with each post. No amount of your
>>> lying will ever change the truth of this.
>>
>> Klaus is a spook troll, most anything he says is on the clock
>> disinformation.
>>
>
> Your use of a racial slur does not benefit you.
> What makes you so certain Klaus is a black man.

Your adamant ignorance of the urban dictionary defeats you, race baiting
troll:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spooks

spooks
1. Government intelligence agents, see G-men.

2. Anyone involved in espionage.
1. Careful on this phone line, there could be spooks listening in.

>>>> Taco Bell indeed opened stores in Mexico:
>>>
>>> And they failed because Mexicans weren't willing to pay such high
>>> prices for AMERICANIZED Mexican food. You already proved this.
>>
>> That was NOT the first reason - cost was.
>
> Since they could get AUTHENTIC Mexican food for less, it's the
> fact that they refused to pay more for AMERICANIZED Mexican food.

Nope.

Cost came first.

> Again, you already proved this. No amount of your lying will ever
> alter the truth of this.

Again you lie.

>>
>> Stop lying.
>
> I would first need to start.

You have.

On 5/23/2021 12:50 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:48:51 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>>>>> There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>>>>>>>> person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds racist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only to an actual racist.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd have to be racist to claim a Mexican can't cook Italian food as
>>>>> well as an Italian.
>>>>
>>>> You'd have to be a practicing racist to torture that starwman-non
>>>> sequitur out of this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Stop being one then, it ought to be beneath you.
>>>
>>> You made the claim that the nationality of the preparer is what
>>> determines the nationality of the food.
>>
>> Not exclusively of course.
>>
>
> So you LIED when you stated that food made by Mexicans is Mexican
> food.

By origin it has to be, even if it is based upon another cuisine.

> Ok. Care to explain why you lied?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))
>
>>> If a Mexican is preparing food
>>> at an Italian restaurant, then, by YOUR standards, the food magically
>>> become Mexican.
>>
>> Nope.
>
> That was your original claim.
>

Nope.

On 5/23/2021 12:50 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:51:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 17:11:18 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
>>> <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except for the fact that Mexicans didn't want to pay for AMERICANIZED
>>>>>> Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What they wish to pay for or not in no way alters the definition of what
>>>>> comprises "Mexican food", you 3 letter agency arguebot troll.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.definitions.net/definition/mexican%20food
>>>>>
>>>>> Mexican food
>>>>
>>>> Which Taco Bell doesn't sell.
>>>
>>> North Hollywood has a LARGE Mexican population. According to
>>> those I've discussed the matter, Taco Bell is best described as Tex
>>> Mex.
>>
>> Which is yet another iteration of "Mexican food'!
>
> Again you use scare quotes as if you think I won't know what they
> mean.

Would you prefer I use * marks instead?

I *think" they denote emphasis.

> You keep PROVING you KNOW Taco Bell isn't Mexican food. How ever
> will you try, and fail, to divert from this?
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

On 5/23/2021 12:50 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:52:16 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>>> Taco Bell indeed opened stores in Mexico:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/
>>>>>
>>>>> Which failed, because Mexicans wanted Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> They MIGHT have been willing to eat the AMERICANIZED Mexican
>>>> food. If the price were right. But, as you pointed out, they were
>>>> unwilling to pay higher prices for AMERICANIZED Mexican food when they
>>>> could get GENUINE Mexican food cheaper.
>>>
>>> I thought that was pretty obvious from the article. But maybe not.
>>>
>>
>> Your presented deficit in reading comprehension is another spook ruse.
>
> Again with the racial slur.

Nope:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spooks

spooks
1. Government intelligence agents, see G-men.

2. Anyone involved in espionage.
1. Careful on this phone line, there could be spooks listening in.

> But you're not racist?

How long have you been beating your wife?

> What makes you believe Klaus fits into the demographic of black?

Never said he did or did not.

> Or are you just hoping he does so that your racist jabs have some
> effect?
>

You are a foul and devolved race baiting troll.

Burgle any garages lately?

On 5/23/2021 12:51 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:53:28 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>>> https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>>>>>> Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>>>>>> Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>>>>>> price
>>>>>
>>>>> You offer ANOTHER cite that shows Taco Bell is not Mexican food.
>>>>> In this case, your cite states, "...Americanized version of their
>>>>> native food..."
>>>>> Maybe you should find a newsgroup frequented by preschoolers. You
>>>>> will fit in quite well.
>>>>
>>>> He has consumed too much Taco Bell and the fat clogging his veins is
>>>> preventing blood from getting to his brain, methinks.
>>>
>>> It would explain a lot.
>>>
>> But not your sycophantic troll coddling...
>
> I'm not the one who came to alt.food.fast-food with the intent of
> satiating a desire

You have been here a loooong time, "satiating" your unique desires, troll.

On 5/23/2021 12:51 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:53:58 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>>>> https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which failed, because Mexicans wanted Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>>> They MIGHT have been willing to eat the AMERICANIZED Mexican
>>>>> food. If the price were right. But, as you pointed out, they were
>>>>> unwilling to pay higher prices for AMERICANIZED Mexican food when they
>>>>> could get GENUINE Mexican food cheaper.
>>>>
>>>> I thought that was pretty obvious from the article. But maybe not.
>>>
>>> To anyone who got past eighth grade it is.
>>>
>> Sorry your education as truncated there.
>
> Not to brag, but I have a Master's degree.

Boasting noted.

And dismissed.

I do think you might have a B.S. degree, laugh, laugh, laugh,laugh...

> Not that it is what
> allows me to acknowledge the reality that Taco Bell does not serve
> Mexican food.

Yes they do.

Tacos are "Mexican food".

> It's a pity that you're so stupid you continue to claim it is
> while presenting the evidence that it is not.

Liar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

On 5/23/2021 1:29 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:46:26 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 11:14 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:57:13 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/23/2021 10:33 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:20:23 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 6:10 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:23:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:33:44 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>>>>>>>>>> Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>>>>>>>>>> Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>>>>>>>>>> price.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right. Why should they buy AMERICANIZED food at that price when
>>>>>>>>> MEXICAN food is cheaper?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In that _specific instance_ the food of the host nation was a domestic
>>>>>>>> product of Mexico
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Irrelevant. And desperate. LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Factual and on point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Factual and xx relevant.
>>>>
>>>> FIFY, spook.
>>>
>>> More racist language. Unbelievable.
>>>
>> Urbanism is not your forte, spook:
>
> https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/10/24/559502238/this-halloween-what-does-it-mean-to-call-something-spooky
>
> Sure, "spook" can refer to a ghost. It can refer to a spy.

Yep.

Case closed.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spooks

spooks
1. Government intelligence agents, see G-men.

2. Anyone involved in espionage.
1. Careful on this phone line, there could be spooks listening in.

On 5/23/2021 1:30 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:49:00 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> In Taco Bell's case, yes, they are.
>>
>> Definition of "Mexican food" says otherwise, spook:
>
> Your continued racism isn't helping.
>

Lying demonization.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spooks

spooks
1. Government intelligence agents, see G-men.

2. Anyone involved in espionage.
1. Careful on this phone line, there could be spooks listening in.

On 5/23/2021 1:30 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:50:24 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> zelgensetter isn't very bright.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It might be time to let him entertain himself. LOL
>>>>>
>>>> Tired of
>>>
>>> explaining Mexican food to racists?
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>> I do tire of explaining this to you, racist spook:
>
> Using a racial slur

Demonizing without cause.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spooks

spooks
1. Government intelligence agents, see G-men.

2. Anyone involved in espionage.
1. Careful on this phone line, there could be spooks listening in.

On 5/23/2021 1:30 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 13:15:38 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 12:15 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:48:24 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Like when you ignored Taco Bell saying they didn't sell Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> Nevesaid any such thing.
>>>
>>> Yes, Taco Bell did.
>>>
>> Cite?
>
> https://www.tacobell.com/food
>
> From the page:
>
> The Taco Bell® menu has all of your favorite Mexican *inspired* foods.
> (Emphasis added)
>

Which means:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

>>> Your own cite states it is Mexican-inspired food.
>>
>> Since they make tacos and burritos and churros it most certainly IS
>> "Mexican food".
>>
>
> Ibid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_dishes

Burrito

Tacos

Tostadas

Chalupa

Nachos

Queso

Salsa

Quesadillas

Taquitos

....all to be found at any given time on the Taco Bell menu.

:-)))

On 5/23/2021 1:30 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 13:17:08 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 12:16 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:49:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> "Dumb" and "racist" seem to go together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do y[..]
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for confirming they do.
>>>>>
>>>> You made my job of
>>>
>>> being a racist evident and plain
>>
>> Eh?
>
> You're so STUPID

You're so trollish.

On 5/23/2021 1:31 PM, KWills wrote:
> I'm not even psychic.

I'm sorry.

:-(

On 5/23/2021 1:32 PM, KWills wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 13:19:38 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2021 12:38 PM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:23:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 6:10 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:27:35 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:26 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>>>>>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do not, no.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Facts are easy to believe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>>>>>>>> cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>>>>>>>> 1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>>>>>>>> selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>>>>>>>> the Long Beach area.[6]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But not in Mexico.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you stupid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or just a congenital liar?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Taco Bell indeed opened stores in Mexico:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/
>>>>>
>>>>> Which failed, because Mexicans wanted Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which failed due to :
>>>>
>>>> 1.) Price
>>>>
>>>> 2.) Location
>>>>
>>>> 3.) Unfamiliar recipes
>>>>
>>>> But said food was indeed "Mexican food" as it was produced in Mexico,
>>>> consumed in Mexico, and based upon local Mexican recipes.
>>>>
>>>> Now I don't mind argue-boxing you to a pulp if that's your 3 letter
>>>> semantics meltdown flavor; your call, dummy.
>>>
>>> By YOUR standards, tacos are French cuisine.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> They are "mexican food" served in France.
>>
>
> Not by YOUR standards.
>
>>
>>> I had a really good
>>> taco in Chomini, France.
>>
>> Liar.
>>
>
> Present the evidence that would impeach my claim that it was
> really good.

Good was not my beef.

> If your lying, and you are, no such evidence will be
> presented.

I simply do not trust your claims, any of them.

>
>>> It was produced in France, consumed in France, and, I presume,
>>> based on a local recipe.
>>
>> Liar.
>>
>
> ibid.

Liar.

>
>>> So, tell me. How long have you viewed tacos as French? Or did I
>>> catch you in ANOTHER act of dishonesty?
>
> You didn't answer, dullard.
>

You never went to France, liar.