On 5/22/2021 12:45 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:30:29 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2021 12:27 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:24:56 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>>>>>>> food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so...YES!
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>>>> person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.
>>>
>>> Sounds racist.
>>
>> Only to an actual racist.
>
> You'd have to be racist to claim a Mexican can't cook Italian food as
> well as an Italian.
>

You'd have to be a practicing racist to torture that starwman-non
sequitur out of this discussion.

Stop being one then, it ought to be beneath you.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:23:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:33:44 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>>> Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>>> Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>>> price.
>>
>> Right. Why should they buy AMERICANIZED food at that price when
>> MEXICAN food is cheaper?
>>
>
>In that _specific instance_ the food of the host nation was a domestic
>product of Mexico

Irrelevant. And desperate. LOL

On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:27:35 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:26 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not, no.
>>>>>
>>>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>>>
>>>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Facts are easy to believe.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>>>
>>> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>>> cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>>> 1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>>> selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>>> the Long Beach area.[6]
>>
>> But not in Mexico.
>>
>Are you stupid?
>
>Or just a congenital liar?
>
>Taco Bell indeed opened stores in Mexico:
>
>https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/

Which failed, because Mexicans wanted Mexican food.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:31:06 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:45 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:27:21 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>>>
>>>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>>>
>>> Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.
>>
>> Except for the fact that Mexicans didn't want to pay for AMERICANIZED
>> Mexican food.
>>
>What they wish to pay for or not in no way alters the definition of what
>comprises "Mexican food", you 3 letter agency arguebot troll.
>
>https://www.definitions.net/definition/mexican%20food
>
>Mexican food

Which Taco Bell doesn't sell.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:32:22 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:45 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:30:29 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:27 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:24:56 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>>>>>>>> food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so...YES!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>>>>> person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds racist.
>>>
>>> Only to an actual racist.
>>
>> You'd have to be racist to claim a Mexican can't cook Italian food as
>> well as an Italian.
>>
>
>You'd have to be a practicing racist

You seem to have plenty of practice. Racist.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:43:44 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:41:49 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
>> <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>>> hair...are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican food. And Mexican is a nationality, not
>>>>> a race.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not only to I eat mexican food, I have said many time's that Taco Bell is
>>>>>> one of my top favorite restourant's. How could all thi sbe possible if I
>>>>>> was a racist?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>
>>>
>>> No. It's not.
>>
>> zelgensetter actually supports the position that it is not.
>>
>No I do not.
>
>It's as Mexican as egg Foo Young is Chinese.
>
>HTH, you dummy.

So not at all. I'm glad we agree.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>> hair...are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>
>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican food. And Mexican is a nationality, not
>>>> a race.
>>>>
>>>>> Not only to I eat mexican food, I have said many time's that Taco Bell is
>>>>> one of my top favorite restourant's. How could all thi sbe possible if I
>>>>> was a racist?
>>>>
>>>> Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Yeah it is.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>
>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>
>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>
>Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>

Odd. In a previous post, you make it clear it is not.
That aside, does the fact that most of the employees of the
In-N-Out Burgers nearest me mean the hamburgers are Mexican food? By
YOUR standards, they must be.
And since the Burger King nearest me staffs mostly Mexicans, all
the options there MUST be Mexican food. Unless you LIED above.

>> I'm sure most, if not all, would agree the food is inspired by
>> Mexican dishes. But being inspired by Mexican dishes isn't the same as
>> being Mexican dishes.
>
>Melting pot 101 - Egg Foo Young is "bhinese food'.
>
>Burritos and tacos are definitively "Mexican food".
>
>HTH

As you've openly and freely admitted, Taco Bell is NOT Mexican
food. Your own cite states it is Mexican-inspired food.

>>
>>> that include:
>>> tacos, burritos, quesadillas, nachos, novelty and specialty items, along
>>> with a variety of "value menu" items. As of 2018, Taco Bell serves over
>>> two billion customers each year, at 7,072 restaurants, more than 93
>>> percent of which are owned and operated by independent franchisees and
>>> licensees.
>>>
>>>
>>> Taco Bell was founded by Glen Bell, an entrepreneur who first opened a
>>> hot dog stand called Bell's Drive-In in San Bernardino, California in
>>> 1948. Bell watched long lines of customers at a Mexican restaurant
>>> called the Mitla Cafe, located across the street, which became famous
>>> among residents for its hard-shelled tacos. Bell attempted to
>>> reverse-engineer the recipe, and eventually the owners allowed him to
>>> see how the tacos were made. He took what he had learned and opened a
>>> new stand in 1951. The name underwent several changes, from Taco-Tia
>>> through El Taco, before settling on Taco Bell.
>>>
>>>
>>>> But you know this. You're
>>>> just trying to justify your racism.
>>>
>>> Its as Mexican as any American Chinese joint is Chinese.
>>
>> There's a Chinese place a few blocks from me. It is owned and
>> operated by a nice family of Chinese immigrants.
>
>Making "Chinese food" and not hamburgers wone would think...
>

Of course. But they make Chinese influenced food.

>> But Taco Bell is, as
>> you helped to prove, NOT Mexican.
>
>Tacos and Burritos ARE "Mexican food', Churros too.
>

Your own cite states Taco Bell is Mexican-inspired food.

>
>https://www.chefsmove.org/these-are-the-popular-types-of-mexican-food/
>
>The Most Popular Types of Mexican Food
>
>Most Mexican dishes are a combination of beans, meat, tortilla, and
>cheese. However, there is a lot of variety within these parameters. The
>spices and flavorings traditional to Mexican cuisine are warm and a
>little spicy.
>
>The way meat is cooked is part of what sets Mexican food apart. Chorizo
>is a popular smoked Mexican sausage, and carne picada is a sizzling way
>to prep your beef. Our favorite recipe for Carne picada is the one here
>at recipeworkbook.com.
>
>Burritos
>
>At its core, a burrito is a bunch of meat, vegetables, and cheese
>wrapped up in a warm tortilla. You’re likely most familiar with the
>Chipotle-style burrito: beans, rice, meat, cheese, salsa, and more, all
>in one behemoth wad of foil.
>
>Many burritos are simpler than that, focusing instead on the flavor of
>the meat and cheese within. As much Mexican food centers around smoked
>or barbecued meat, the meals are relatively unfussy.
>
>Tacos
>
>Tacos are the Mexican equivalent of a sandwich. They’re open on top and
>can be made with either hard or soft shells. Whether to choose a crispy
>corn shell or a soft flour wrap is up to you.
>
>The interior of a taco is similar to a burrito: meat, beans, and cheese
>stacked on top of each other. Tacos are usually sold in orders of 2 or 3
>and are even more pared down than your average burrito. This dish is
>simple but filling.
>
>Nachos
>
>Corn tortillas are cut into chip shapes and then fried. Those chips are
>drizzled with beans, cheese, salsa, and meat. Nachos are a great platter
>to share and make a great vehicle for all kinds of toppings.
>
>Nachos can be as simple or loaded as you want. Some nacho platters are
>veritable mountains of food. Some are nothing more than chips and queso.
>
>
>>> Now go hork a wiener dog up.
>>
>> Can you write that in a language I know?
>
>Sure:
>
>https://www.scienceabc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Dog_vomiting_with_apomorphine.jpg

So you can't. Got it.

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when you are going to need them to empty your bedpan.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 10:58:19 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>>On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>
>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>
>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>
>>Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>
>So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>food.
>
>I see.
>
>[chuckle]
>

I raised the same point. It would appear zelgensetter doesn't
think through his (I presume male) comments.

>
>
>>Tacos and Burritos ARE "Mexican food', Churros too.
>
>Calling it a taco doesn't make it a taco.

While in Chamonix I had a pretty good taco. I didn't pay real
close attention at the time, but I'm fairly certain everyone working
was French. As such, zelgensetter will claim tacos are French cuisine.

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I poked a badger with a spoon.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:24:56 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>>>
>>>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>>>> food.
>>>>
>>>> I see.
>>>>
>>>> [chuckle]
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>>>
>>> If so...YES!
>>
>> Wrong.
>
>There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.

Klaus didn't ask about Italians cooking Italian food. He asked
about Mexicans cooking Italian food.

>
>I think you should stick to schnitzel.

You're parents aren't first cousins, are they?

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:09:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican Food.
>>>
>>> Yes it is:
>>
>>
>> No. It's not.
>>
>> Taco Bell first attempted to open a location across the border in
>> Mexico City in 1992. After that failed, they tried again with a
>> different concept in 2007, but that, too, was unsuccessful.
>
>So?
>
>https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/
>
>There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>price

You offer ANOTHER cite that shows Taco Bell is not Mexican food.
In this case, your cite states, "...Americanized version of their
native food..."
Maybe you should find a newsgroup frequented by preschoolers. You
will fit in quite well.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:23:40 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:09:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 11:56 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:51:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/2021 4:42 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:c2rs9g9cm8o14ctqp8ghhjasduq964o53s@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 02:23:53 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "KlausSchadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>> news:h6ai9g16ah2nuhj1pnhc940ii9gjkj8h2j@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 May 2021 14:17:56 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't mention her age, her height, her weight, her name, her
>>>>>>>>>>>> complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just her race.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stating a fact does NOT make me a racist. Klous, you have addressed me
>>>>>>>>>>> MANY
>>>>>>>>>>> time's without mentioning my age, hieght, weight, and complexion and
>>>>>>>>>>> hair...
>>>>>>>>>>> are you telling me that your a racist as well? By your "logic"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You felt the need to state her race but not her age, her height, her
>>>>>>>>>> weight, her name, her complexion, her hair-- all facts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question, klous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're a racist, Jenny. Your question was addressed adequately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not a racist, klous. If I was, I wouldn't be eating Taco Bell food,
>>>>>>> which i s MEXICAN food, and mexican is a official race.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a racist.
>>>>>> Taco Bell is not Mexican Food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes it is:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>
>>>> Taco Bell first attempted to open a location across the border in
>>>> Mexico City in 1992. After that failed, they tried again with a
>>>> different concept in 2007, but that, too, was unsuccessful.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> So, Mexicans wouldn't even eat it.
>
>Due to a local cost imbalance as cited.
>

No, due to it being Americanized version of their native food.
Your own cite stated this.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:24:09 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>>I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>
>So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>
>Thanks!

It's almost funny how often he (I'm still presuming male) admits
this.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>
>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>
>I do not, no.
>
>I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>

So NOT Mexican. Got it.

>
>> Thanks!
>
>Always ready to lampoon your non sequitur rhetoric.

You keep admitting Taco Bell is not Mexican food.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>
>>> I do not, no.
>>>
>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>
>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>
>Facts are easy to believe.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>
> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>the Long Beach area.[6]

[...]

So it was started by a white guy, NOT a Mexican.
I'm so glad you've come around to reality.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>
>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>
>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>
>Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>

I like how you used scare quotes. Your continued admission that
Taco Bell is not real Mexican food is noted.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:11:34 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>>On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>
>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>
>>Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>
>Your use of quotes is noted.

zelgensetter isn't very bright.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>
>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>
>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>
>It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.

So you didn't make it to third grade English class. Scare quotes
are used to denote mocking or irony.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:27:21 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>
>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>
>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>
>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>
>Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.
>
>Tacos and burritos are accepted to be "Mexican food", even with a
>Bulgogi filling.
>
>You dummy.

By YOUR standards, tacos are French.
Are you claiming you LIED when you presented the nationality of
the prepare makes the dish of that nationality?

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:45:22 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:27:21 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>>On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:22:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:11 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:00:30 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:53 AM, zelgensetter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Because it's not actually Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No. It's not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. It is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you think it is, it's apparent you've never had Mexican food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>>
>>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>>
>>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>>
>>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>>
>>Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.
>
>Except for the fact that Mexicans didn't want to pay for AMERICANIZED
>Mexican food.

Certainly not at the prices being charged for the AMERICANIZED
Mexican food.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:23:52 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:33:44 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> There were many factors that contributed to the ultimate downfall of
>>> Taco Bell in Mexico, but one of the major sticking points that prevented
>>> Mexicans from adopting the Americanized version of their native food was
>>> price.
>>
>> Right. Why should they buy AMERICANIZED food at that price when
>> MEXICAN food is cheaper?
>>
>
>In that _specific instance_ the food of the host nation was a domestic
>product of Mexico, then again so was the Toxic Bell fare they were peddling.
>
>Both = Mexican food, the local iteration however was more "authentic"
>than Bell's effort.
>
>But you already knew that, you useless arguebot.

Once again you acknowledge that Taco Bell is NOT Mexican food.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:27:35 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:26 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not, no.
>>>>>
>>>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>>>
>>>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>>>
>>> Facts are easy to believe.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>>>
>>> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>>> cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>>> 1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>>> selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>>> the Long Beach area.[6]
>>
>> But not in Mexico.
>>
>Are you stupid?
>
>Or just a congenital liar?
>

Klaus has PROVED you WRONG with each post. No amount of your
lying will ever change the truth of this.

>Taco Bell indeed opened stores in Mexico:
>

And they failed because Mexicans weren't willing to pay such high
prices for AMERICANIZED Mexican food. You already proved this.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:31:06 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mexican%20food
>
>2
>mexican food
>It's almost always...
>...A tortilla with meat, cheese and lettuce.
>No, seriously.
>What is a taco? A tortilla with meat, cheese and lettuce.
>What is a burrtio? A tortilla with meat, cheese and lettuce.
>What is a fajita? A tortilla with meat, cheese and lettuce.
>What are nachos? Little tortillas with meat, cheese and lettuce.
>
>But seriously. Mexican food is food from Mexico.
>And it's good.

Once again your own cite shows that Taco Bell, which is NOT from
Mexico, is not Mexican food.
For someone who wants to claim it is, you sure do put in a lot of
effort to prove Taco Bell is NOT Mexican food.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:32:22 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:

>On 5/22/2021 12:45 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:30:29 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2021 12:27 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:24:56 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:12 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:12:03 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 11:58 AM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 11:49:01 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2021 3:32 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 11:20:57 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/19/2021 3:42 AM, KWills wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:01:41 -0500, "Jerry Sauk"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jerrysauk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Bell
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The restaurants serve a variety of Mexican-inspired foods,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for supporting the claim that it is NOT Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mexicans generally are the ones who cook it, ergo it IS Mexican food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So if they work in an Italian restaurant, it magically becomes Mexican
>>>>>>>> food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [chuckle]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you Italian in nationality or descent?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so...YES!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> There can't be anything more ethnically obvious than an actual Italian
>>>>> person cooking Italian food regardless of where it is served.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds racist.
>>>
>>> Only to an actual racist.
>>
>> You'd have to be racist to claim a Mexican can't cook Italian food as
>> well as an Italian.
>
>You'd have to be a practicing racist to torture that starwman-non
>sequitur out of this discussion.
>
>Stop being one then, it ought to be beneath you.

You made the claim that the nationality of the preparer is what
determines the nationality of the food. If a Mexican is preparing food
at an Italian restaurant, then, by YOUR standards, the food magically
become Mexican.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 17:10:55 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:27:35 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>
>>On 5/22/2021 12:44 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:29:54 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:26 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:26:02 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 12:24 PM, KlausSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 12:21:55 -0600, zelgensetter <use@ex.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I brought it up as an example of how Americanized ethnic fare remains,
>>>>>>>> at its origin, an ethnic cuisine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you admit Taco Bell isn't Mexican.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not, no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I admit it is Mexican food designed by a gringo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taco Bell LOVES you for believing this!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Facts are easy to believe.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Bell
>>>>
>>>> He soon started selling tacos at a taco stand named Taco-Tia at 19
>>>> cents each from a side window.[clarification needed] Between 1954 and
>>>> 1955, he opened three Taco Tias in the San Bernardino area, eventually
>>>> selling those restaurants and opening four El Tacos with a partner in
>>>> the Long Beach area.[6]
>>>
>>> But not in Mexico.
>>>
>>Are you stupid?
>>
>>Or just a congenital liar?
>>
>>Taco Bell indeed opened stores in Mexico:
>>
>>https://www.mashed.com/234254/why-taco-bell-flopped-in-mexico/
>
>Which failed, because Mexicans wanted Mexican food.

They MIGHT have been willing to eat the AMERICANIZED Mexican
food. If the price were right. But, as you pointed out, they were
unwilling to pay higher prices for AMERICANIZED Mexican food when they
could get GENUINE Mexican food cheaper.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 17:11:18 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>>>>>>>> Other nationally available "Mexican food" vendors:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your use of quotes is noted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It emphasizes the definitive nicely, yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It emphasizes the fact that it's not really Mexican food.
>>>>>
>>>> Every definition of the cuisine presented contradicts you.
>>>
>>> Except for the fact that Mexicans didn't want to pay for AMERICANIZED
>>> Mexican food.
>>>
>>What they wish to pay for or not in no way alters the definition of what
>>comprises "Mexican food", you 3 letter agency arguebot troll.
>>
>>https://www.definitions.net/definition/mexican%20food
>>
>>Mexican food
>
>Which Taco Bell doesn't sell.

North Hollywood has a LARGE Mexican population. According to
those I've discussed the matter, Taco Bell is best described as Tex
Mex.

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