On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 9:10:38 PM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:

> > Thank you Rick Richard Collins, Arius.
> Wayne, this is not the first time you have responded to my post intended to another. I would like you to cease your harassment. You have no need to communicate with me other than to disrupt my use of this group. Please stop it.

I'm sorry Rick, but you don't get to pretend to blame somebody else yet again, like it's not what you have done, and try to act like me doing it, which I've seen you do a number of times, and demand. You don't get to spray aserrations around that others here are "loons" after you have been involved in that, you still have a sign on you about past actions. But, you post this, instead of confirming you are not this new character who you were engaging, who parachuted in out of nowhere. You surely see, how this might appear a bit strange timing, and considering the past, it might be productive to confirm it's not a gag.

I'm happy to engage Mudd, if he is real. But, I'm just going to reply to him, about matters you normally would pick out.

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > >
> > > ..
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > >
> > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > >
> > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.

Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.

People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."

--

Rick C.

-+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 10:27:02 PM UTC+10, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.

John. I think it was that your post was very cryptic, and I still don't know where ever the other group is about things which is supposed to have happened behind scenes, alternative history revision (such as "what if") or making fun. If it is "what if" and one could post over there, I might be interested in posting, but enough has been said.

P.S. If you're not Rick, my apologies, I don't mean to offend. It's just a truck load of history, and the timing was just a bit close to other events by an overactive poster.

Thanks.

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 5:12:29 AM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 9:10:38 PM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
>
> > > Thank you Rick Richard Collins, Arius.
> > Wayne, this is not the first time you have responded to my post intended to another. I would like you to cease your harassment. You have no need to communicate with me other than to disrupt my use of this group. Please stop it.
> I'm sorry Rick, but you don't get to pretend to blame somebody else yet again, like it's not what you have done, and try to act like me doing it, which I've seen you do a number of times, and demand. You don't get to spray aserrations around that others here are "loons" after you have been involved in that, you still have a sign on you about past actions. But, you post this, instead of confirming you are not this new character who you were engaging, who parachuted in out of nowhere. You surely see, how this might appear a bit strange timing, and considering the past, it might be productive to confirm it's not a gag.
>
> I'm happy to engage Mudd, if he is real. But, I'm just going to reply to him, about matters you normally would pick out.

Oh good grief! All innocent and nice again. Notice how many of us act in regard to others where ever it suites us or not?

On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > >
> > > > ..
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
>
> People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
>
> --
>
> Rick C.
>
> -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:

In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.

You might not undestand this anymore,
that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.

If you do not aim at the group what you say,
please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > >
> > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> >
> > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rick C.
> >
> > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
>
> In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here..
> As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
>
> You might not undestand this anymore,
> that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
>
> If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.

I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.

The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.

This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.

--

Rick C.

-++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> > > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> > >
> > > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rick C.
> > >
> > > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> >
> > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> >
> > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> >
> > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.
>
> The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.
>
> This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.
>
> --
>
> Rick C.
>
> -++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> -++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Who do you think you are to try to teach others about behaviour ?????

Social behaviour is not your strength as you have shown in many places here..

If I have the time I will do a nice PDF collection for download for others to enjoy ( or not).
And your behaviour started this discussion here
and you caused it,
and you know it.

And as I said before:

Piss off and stay out of my threads.
You know what happens if you get agressive here.
It seems you have nothing else to do.
It is your standard behaviour and you love it.

And again, as it seems you have not grasped it:

The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:

In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
You might not undestand this anymore,
that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.

If you do not aim at the group what you say,
please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> > > > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> > > >
> > > > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Rick C.
> > > >
> > > > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > >
> > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > >
> > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > >
> > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.
> >
> > The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing.. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.
> >
> > This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rick C.
> >
> > -++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > -++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> Who do you think you are to try to teach others about behaviour ?????

I am someone who can see the negative effects of your behavior even if you can't. I'm not the only person who has tried to talk to you about this. Mostly though, people just avoid talking to you when you are like this.

> Social behaviour is not your strength as you have shown in many places here.
>
> If I have the time I will do a nice PDF collection for download for others to enjoy ( or not).
> And your behaviour started this discussion here
> and you caused it,
> and you know it.

I never realized I was so powerful as to control your actions. That's amazing!

> And as I said before:
>
> Piss off and stay out of my threads.

Sorry to tell you that you don't own the Internet or this newsgroup or even this thread. Posting here is a start of a public discussion where anyone may participate. I would have expected you to learn that a long time ago.

> You know what happens if you get agressive here.
> It seems you have nothing else to do.
> It is your standard behaviour and you love it.

Nothing I have done is aggressive. You just imagine it that way. When I say you seem to be off your nut, that's not aggressive, that's just describing your behavior.

> And again, as it seems you have not grasped it:
> The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
>
> In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here..
> As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.

I would not be replying to your post because the moderator would not allow you to behave this way.

It is very telling that you see this as a shit slinging contest when it is just a conversation. I suppose you've never heard the expression about sticks and stones...

> You might not undestand this anymore,
> that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.

Yes, you are reacting, much as a child would. A very profane child.

> If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.

I suggest you follow your own advise.

The only thing I've done to be embarrassed about is responding to you as if there were some reason to think you might understand the situation. Are you like this in person as well? That is scary.

--

Rick C.

+-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > > > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common.. Bye.
> > > > > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> > > > >
> > > > > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick C.
> > > > >
> > > > > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > >
> > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > >
> > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > >
> > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.
> > >
> > > The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.
> > >
> > > This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rick C.
> > >
> > > -++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > -++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > Who do you think you are to try to teach others about behaviour ?????
> I am someone who can see the negative effects of your behavior even if you can't. I'm not the only person who has tried to talk to you about this. Mostly though, people just avoid talking to you when you are like this.
> > Social behaviour is not your strength as you have shown in many places here.
> >
> > If I have the time I will do a nice PDF collection for download for others to enjoy ( or not).
> > And your behaviour started this discussion here
> > and you caused it,
> > and you know it.
> I never realized I was so powerful as to control your actions. That's amazing!
> > And as I said before:
> >
> > Piss off and stay out of my threads.
> Sorry to tell you that you don't own the Internet or this newsgroup or even this thread. Posting here is a start of a public discussion where anyone may participate. I would have expected you to learn that a long time ago.
> > You know what happens if you get agressive here.
> > It seems you have nothing else to do.
> > It is your standard behaviour and you love it.
> Nothing I have done is aggressive. You just imagine it that way. When I say you seem to be off your nut, that's not aggressive, that's just describing your behavior.
> > And again, as it seems you have not grasped it:
> > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> >
> > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> I would not be replying to your post because the moderator would not allow you to behave this way.
>
> It is very telling that you see this as a shit slinging contest when it is just a conversation. I suppose you've never heard the expression about sticks and stones...
> > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> Yes, you are reacting, much as a child would. A very profane child.
> > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> I suggest you follow your own advise.
>
> The only thing I've done to be embarrassed about is responding to you as if there were some reason to think you might understand the situation. Are you like this in person as well? That is scary.
>
> --
>
> Rick C.
>
> +-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> +-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

As said:
PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY..

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > > > > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> > > > > > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > > >
> > > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > > >
> > > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > > I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.
> > > >
> > > > The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.
> > > >
> > > > This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Rick C.
> > > >
> > > > -++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > -++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > Who do you think you are to try to teach others about behaviour ?????
> > I am someone who can see the negative effects of your behavior even if you can't. I'm not the only person who has tried to talk to you about this. Mostly though, people just avoid talking to you when you are like this.
> > > Social behaviour is not your strength as you have shown in many places here.
> > >
> > > If I have the time I will do a nice PDF collection for download for others to enjoy ( or not).
> > > And your behaviour started this discussion here
> > > and you caused it,
> > > and you know it.
> > I never realized I was so powerful as to control your actions. That's amazing!
> > > And as I said before:
> > >
> > > Piss off and stay out of my threads.
> > Sorry to tell you that you don't own the Internet or this newsgroup or even this thread. Posting here is a start of a public discussion where anyone may participate. I would have expected you to learn that a long time ago..
> > > You know what happens if you get agressive here.
> > > It seems you have nothing else to do.
> > > It is your standard behaviour and you love it.
> > Nothing I have done is aggressive. You just imagine it that way. When I say you seem to be off your nut, that's not aggressive, that's just describing your behavior.
> > > And again, as it seems you have not grasped it:
> > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > >
> > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > I would not be replying to your post because the moderator would not allow you to behave this way.
> >
> > It is very telling that you see this as a shit slinging contest when it is just a conversation. I suppose you've never heard the expression about sticks and stones...
> > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > Yes, you are reacting, much as a child would. A very profane child.
> > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > I suggest you follow your own advise.
> >
> > The only thing I've done to be embarrassed about is responding to you as if there were some reason to think you might understand the situation. Are you like this in person as well? That is scary.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rick C.
> >
> > +-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > +-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> As said:
> PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY.

I don't understand you. You claim I say nothing useful, but you keep reading it and replying to it. Seems to me that you like this conversation. Sorta like the feller huntin' the bear!

--

Rick C.

+-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 19:18:52 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > > > > > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> > > > > > > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > > > I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.
> > > > >
> > > > > The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick C.
> > > > >
> > > > > -++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > -++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > Who do you think you are to try to teach others about behaviour ?????
> > > I am someone who can see the negative effects of your behavior even if you can't. I'm not the only person who has tried to talk to you about this. Mostly though, people just avoid talking to you when you are like this.
> > > > Social behaviour is not your strength as you have shown in many places here.
> > > >
> > > > If I have the time I will do a nice PDF collection for download for others to enjoy ( or not).
> > > > And your behaviour started this discussion here
> > > > and you caused it,
> > > > and you know it.
> > > I never realized I was so powerful as to control your actions. That's amazing!
> > > > And as I said before:
> > > >
> > > > Piss off and stay out of my threads.
> > > Sorry to tell you that you don't own the Internet or this newsgroup or even this thread. Posting here is a start of a public discussion where anyone may participate. I would have expected you to learn that a long time ago.
> > > > You know what happens if you get agressive here.
> > > > It seems you have nothing else to do.
> > > > It is your standard behaviour and you love it.
> > > Nothing I have done is aggressive. You just imagine it that way. When I say you seem to be off your nut, that's not aggressive, that's just describing your behavior.
> > > > And again, as it seems you have not grasped it:
> > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > >
> > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > I would not be replying to your post because the moderator would not allow you to behave this way.
> > >
> > > It is very telling that you see this as a shit slinging contest when it is just a conversation. I suppose you've never heard the expression about sticks and stones...
> > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > Yes, you are reacting, much as a child would. A very profane child.
> > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > I suggest you follow your own advise.
> > >
> > > The only thing I've done to be embarrassed about is responding to you as if there were some reason to think you might understand the situation. Are you like this in person as well? That is scary.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rick C.
> > >
> > > +-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > +-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > As said:
> > PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY.
> I don't understand you. You claim I say nothing useful, but you keep reading it and replying to it. Seems to me that you like this conversation. Sorta like the feller huntin' the bear!
>
> --
>
> Rick C.
>
> +-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> +-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:48:48 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 19:18:52 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > > > > > > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> > > > > > > > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > > > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > > > > I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > -++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > Who do you think you are to try to teach others about behaviour ?????
> > > > I am someone who can see the negative effects of your behavior even if you can't. I'm not the only person who has tried to talk to you about this. Mostly though, people just avoid talking to you when you are like this..
> > > > > Social behaviour is not your strength as you have shown in many places here.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I have the time I will do a nice PDF collection for download for others to enjoy ( or not).
> > > > > And your behaviour started this discussion here
> > > > > and you caused it,
> > > > > and you know it.
> > > > I never realized I was so powerful as to control your actions. That's amazing!
> > > > > And as I said before:
> > > > >
> > > > > Piss off and stay out of my threads.
> > > > Sorry to tell you that you don't own the Internet or this newsgroup or even this thread. Posting here is a start of a public discussion where anyone may participate. I would have expected you to learn that a long time ago.
> > > > > You know what happens if you get agressive here.
> > > > > It seems you have nothing else to do.
> > > > > It is your standard behaviour and you love it.
> > > > Nothing I have done is aggressive. You just imagine it that way. When I say you seem to be off your nut, that's not aggressive, that's just describing your behavior.
> > > > > And again, as it seems you have not grasped it:
> > > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > > >
> > > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > > I would not be replying to your post because the moderator would not allow you to behave this way.
> > > >
> > > > It is very telling that you see this as a shit slinging contest when it is just a conversation. I suppose you've never heard the expression about sticks and stones...
> > > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > > Yes, you are reacting, much as a child would. A very profane child.
> > > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > > I suggest you follow your own advise.
> > > >
> > > > The only thing I've done to be embarrassed about is responding to you as if there were some reason to think you might understand the situation.. Are you like this in person as well? That is scary.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Rick C.
> > > >
> > > > +-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > +-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > As said:
> > > PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY.
> > I don't understand you. You claim I say nothing useful, but you keep reading it and replying to it. Seems to me that you like this conversation. Sorta like the feller huntin' the bear!
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rick C.
> >
> > +-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > +-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> UP YOURS

On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:50:19 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:48:48 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 19:18:52 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > > > > > > > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore.. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > > > > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > > > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > > > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > > > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > > > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > > > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > > > > > I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > > -++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > > Who do you think you are to try to teach others about behaviour ?????
> > > > > I am someone who can see the negative effects of your behavior even if you can't. I'm not the only person who has tried to talk to you about this. Mostly though, people just avoid talking to you when you are like this.
> > > > > > Social behaviour is not your strength as you have shown in many places here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I have the time I will do a nice PDF collection for download for others to enjoy ( or not).
> > > > > > And your behaviour started this discussion here
> > > > > > and you caused it,
> > > > > > and you know it.
> > > > > I never realized I was so powerful as to control your actions. That's amazing!
> > > > > > And as I said before:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my threads.
> > > > > Sorry to tell you that you don't own the Internet or this newsgroup or even this thread. Posting here is a start of a public discussion where anyone may participate. I would have expected you to learn that a long time ago.
> > > > > > You know what happens if you get agressive here.
> > > > > > It seems you have nothing else to do.
> > > > > > It is your standard behaviour and you love it.
> > > > > Nothing I have done is aggressive. You just imagine it that way. When I say you seem to be off your nut, that's not aggressive, that's just describing your behavior.
> > > > > > And again, as it seems you have not grasped it:
> > > > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > > > I would not be replying to your post because the moderator would not allow you to behave this way.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is very telling that you see this as a shit slinging contest when it is just a conversation. I suppose you've never heard the expression about sticks and stones...
> > > > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > > > Yes, you are reacting, much as a child would. A very profane child.
> > > > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > > > I suggest you follow your own advise.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only thing I've done to be embarrassed about is responding to you as if there were some reason to think you might understand the situation. Are you like this in person as well? That is scary.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick C.
> > > > >
> > > > > +-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > +-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > As said:
> > > > PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY.
> > > I don't understand you. You claim I say nothing useful, but you keep reading it and replying to it. Seems to me that you like this conversation. Sorta like the feller huntin' the bear!
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rick C.
> > >
> > > +-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > +-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > UP YOURS
>
> As said:
> PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY.

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 3:56:51 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:50:19 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:48:48 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 19:18:52 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumping your Humbug wherever you are ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are probably just one of these old guys there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reminiscing about computers/ processors as you say.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my thread if you cannot contribute something useful.
> > > > > > > > > > > Sure. I just thought (foolishly) there'd be something in common. Bye.
> > > > > > > > > > Yeah, there are crazies here for sure. Say something relatively innocent and they can take offense and go to war.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > People wonder why newsgroups are not very popular anymore. There are moderated places to have technical discussions where people aren't allowed to say things like, "Piss off and stay out of my thread..."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > > > > > -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > > > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > > > > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > > > > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group...
> > > > > > > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > > > > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > > > > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > > > > > > I have tried to explain to you many times, in many threads, that your "throwing shit back at people" is still "throwing shit" and makes you look every bit as bad as those you claim are attacking you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The weird thing is you have gotten much more aggressive with this idea and perceive that someone is "throwing shit" at you from every little thing. Your response is on a hair trigger, as it were. What you think is an appropriate response is not at all appropriate. It is not proportional. It is very much out of line by social norms.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is why I think you are off your rails. If you dealt with customers in a manner remotely like this, it is no wonder you are no longer in that sort of position. I have to wonder if you are in the same camp as Hugh and some of the others you spend your time "throwing shit" with. I do think of Hugh as being mentally ill. There's no other way to explain his irrational hatred of Elizabeth Rather and the persecution he perceives from nearly every one here. I would ask you to take a look at yourself, but I've tried that before when your hatred was directed at others and you would not, so I have no reason to think you would now that your hatred is directed at me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > > > -++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > > > Who do you think you are to try to teach others about behaviour ?????
> > > > > > I am someone who can see the negative effects of your behavior even if you can't. I'm not the only person who has tried to talk to you about this. Mostly though, people just avoid talking to you when you are like this.
> > > > > > > Social behaviour is not your strength as you have shown in many places here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I have the time I will do a nice PDF collection for download for others to enjoy ( or not).
> > > > > > > And your behaviour started this discussion here
> > > > > > > and you caused it,
> > > > > > > and you know it.
> > > > > > I never realized I was so powerful as to control your actions. That's amazing!
> > > > > > > And as I said before:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Piss off and stay out of my threads.
> > > > > > Sorry to tell you that you don't own the Internet or this newsgroup or even this thread. Posting here is a start of a public discussion where anyone may participate. I would have expected you to learn that a long time ago.
> > > > > > > You know what happens if you get agressive here.
> > > > > > > It seems you have nothing else to do.
> > > > > > > It is your standard behaviour and you love it.
> > > > > > Nothing I have done is aggressive. You just imagine it that way.. When I say you seem to be off your nut, that's not aggressive, that's just describing your behavior.
> > > > > > > And again, as it seems you have not grasped it:
> > > > > > > The Idiots Guide to Groups and Communities:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In moderated places you would not dare to be as agressive as you can here.
> > > > > > > As result people would not have to throw your shit back at you.
> > > > > > I would not be replying to your post because the moderator would not allow you to behave this way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is very telling that you see this as a shit slinging contest when it is just a conversation. I suppose you've never heard the expression about sticks and stones...
> > > > > > > You might not undestand this anymore,
> > > > > > > that talking is to transmit to a receiving end or a group..
> > > > > > > If they do not like what you say they will react - you had not prepared it well.
> > > > > > Yes, you are reacting, much as a child would. A very profane child.
> > > > > > > If you do not aim at the group what you say,
> > > > > > > please write it onto a piece of toilet paper in the process and down it goes ...
> > > > > > > Nobody can be offended - but you got rid of it.
> > > > > > I suggest you follow your own advise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only thing I've done to be embarrassed about is responding to you as if there were some reason to think you might understand the situation. Are you like this in person as well? That is scary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rick C.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > > > +-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > > > As said:
> > > > > PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY.
> > > > I don't understand you. You claim I say nothing useful, but you keep reading it and replying to it. Seems to me that you like this conversation. Sorta like the feller huntin' the bear!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Rick C.
> > > >
> > > > +-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > > > +-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> > > UP YOURS
> >
> > As said:
> > PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY.
>
> As said:
> PISS OFF - AGAIN YOU SAID NOTHING USEFUL AND NOTHING REGARDING FORTH ANYWAY.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:14:17 -0800 (PST)
Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 3:56:51 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:50:19 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:48:48 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 19:18:52 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
>
Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:26:08 PM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:14:17 -0800 (PST)
> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 3:56:51 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:50:19 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:48:48 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 19:18:52 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> >
> Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.

Yeah, that happens a lot in this group. The funny part is everyone wants to blame it on someone else. As a school teacher explained to me once, it takes two to tango.

Whatever. If you like Forth, you can get benefit from this group by simply ignoring the nonsense you don't like. Sort of like watching TV shows and leaving the room during the commercials.

You can have relatively meaningful conversations here. It's not so often than anyone summons Beetlejuice.

--

Rick C.

+++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On 1/02/2022 12:19, Rick C wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:26:08 PM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:14:17 -0800 (PST)
>> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 3:56:51 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:50:19 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>> > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:48:48 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>> > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 19:18:52 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
>> >
>> Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
>
> Yeah, that happens a lot in this group. The funny part is everyone wants to blame it on someone else. As a school teacher explained to me once, it takes two to tango.

It takes one to dominate and the other to submit.

Accept your place in the forth hierarchy. Resistance is futile.

https://youtu.be/rtEaR1JU-ps

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 7:26:08 AM UTC+10, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.

It's just somebody trying to paint himself good, and paint others bad, stringing people along, when he knows how the other person he's toyed with is going to react. Somebody, who acts superior, but obviously isn't. Who, if it was a moderated group, I would have gotten banned fairly quickly.
Who, I can't verify any importance or significance too, just intellectually campaigning on inner turmoil in others, which as far as intellectualism goes, is the equivalent of a rant of no use. An alternative history, would be that this stuff is all useful and intellectually significant. We don't know, if he even just writes the microcontroller code for a candle stick holder molding press at a navel base. I was partly interested in making candies once, seems like a nice idea. He is very silent about anything at all significant he has done, and doesn't seem to understand anything significant posted here.

I can understand the lovely significant work others have done here, with my appreciation. But, I don't believe him to be the military's previous backwards AI program, but genuinely believe he is a real person, though, I have no firm proof he is the person he says he is. I come across many people, who act a bit like this, who show little to know understanding or ability of design, not proving to me, that he is not of the other 99.9%, or 99.99%+, as far as good design skills go in the general community. That's a guess, but I've still got the talent to see it.

Somebody here, keeps on threatening to post up his conversations, in front of potential business opportunities, so he is intently attempting to make them look bad compared to himself. However, he has gotten in front of business opportunities here, and we are not happy to see him paint himself up, and carry on this campaign, not worthy of anybody significant. He is unnecessary to the success of people who having issues. Just a terrible waste of our time. But, we are drawing a line under this chapter of history, but he is still coming back, to win, but is not realising that is finished. You can love somebody, but it's up to them to reciprocate.

On another matter:

Jurgen, stop letting anyone get to you. Dispassionately refer to them, and their actions. People can see more clearly. You deserve your own success..

On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 13:36:34 UTC, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 7:26:08 AM UTC+10, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
> > --
> > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> It's just somebody trying to paint himself good, and paint others bad, stringing people along, when he knows how the other person he's toyed with is going to react. Somebody, who acts superior, but obviously isn't. Who, if it was a moderated group, I would have gotten banned fairly quickly.
> Who, I can't verify any importance or significance too, just intellectually campaigning on inner turmoil in others, which as far as intellectualism goes, is the equivalent of a rant of no use. An alternative history, would be that this stuff is all useful and intellectually significant. We don't know, if he even just writes the microcontroller code for a candle stick holder molding press at a navel base. I was partly interested in making candies once, seems like a nice idea. He is very silent about anything at all significant he has done, and doesn't seem to understand anything significant posted here.
>
> I can understand the lovely significant work others have done here, with my appreciation. But, I don't believe him to be the military's previous backwards AI program, but genuinely believe he is a real person, though, I have no firm proof he is the person he says he is. I come across many people, who act a bit like this, who show little to know understanding or ability of design, not proving to me, that he is not of the other 99.9%, or 99.99%+, as far as good design skills go in the general community. That's a guess, but I've still got the talent to see it.
>
> Somebody here, keeps on threatening to post up his conversations, in front of potential business opportunities, so he is intently attempting to make them look bad compared to himself. However, he has gotten in front of business opportunities here, and we are not happy to see him paint himself up, and carry on this campaign, not worthy of anybody significant. He is unnecessary to the success of people who having issues. Just a terrible waste of our time. But, we are drawing a line under this chapter of history, but he is still coming back, to win, but is not realising that is finished. You can love somebody, but it's up to them to reciprocate.
>
>
> On another matter:
>
> Jurgen, stop letting anyone get to you. Dispassionately refer to them, and their actions. People can see more clearly. You deserve your own success.

I am having a break here regarding MISC16,
waiting now to get the MAX board,
breadboard-friendly, and see the eForth run .
Switching some LEDs on and off or more,
https://shop.trenz-electronic.de/en/Products/Trenz-Electronic/MAX1000-Intel-MAX-10/?gclid=CjwKCAiAl-6PBhBCEiwAc2GOVIEO-uP2mkqTEIOC_PXUxhgBZC4lUDb5VewiLIs8Jp-wbqcgKFSdLxoCxcgQAvD_BwE

A new book about MISC16 is in the planning,
so there will be an interesting time ahead and a lot of my spare time needed.

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:26:08 PM UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:14:17 -0800 (PST)
> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 3:56:51 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:50:19 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 20:48:48 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 19:18:52 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 18:01:35 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:45:47 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 13:50:12 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:05:42 AM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 30 January 2022 at 19:16:50 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:27:02 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:10:37 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 10:42:15 PM UTC-5, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:56:12 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-5, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 20:28:38 UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote: l
> >
> Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.
It's not Forth - it's usenet!!

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 7:04:32 PM UTC+10, Mark Wills wrote:
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:26:08 PM UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
> > --
> > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> It's not Forth - it's usenet!!

Or LessUsefullNet, these days.

On Friday, 4 February 2022 at 23:04:56 UTC, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 7:04:32 PM UTC+10, Mark Wills wrote:
> > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:26:08 PM UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
> > > --
> > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > It's not Forth - it's usenet!!
> Or LessUsefullNet, these days.

Wayne, I think it is not correct to blame the tool,
if the user cannot control how to use it.

On Saturday, 5 February 2022 at 08:45:04 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Friday, 4 February 2022 at 23:04:56 UTC, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 7:04:32 PM UTC+10, Mark Wills wrote:
> > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:26:08 PM UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
> > > > --
> > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > It's not Forth - it's usenet!!
> > Or LessUsefullNet, these days.
> Wayne, I think it is not correct to blame the tool,
> if the user cannot control how to use it.

I just had another look at the 3 MISC articles from then - unfortunately in German -
and they are really from January 1997 - so 25 years ago ...
https://wiki.forth-ev.de/lib/exe/fetch.php/vd-archiv:4d1997_1.pdf

On Saturday, 5 February 2022 at 09:08:13 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Saturday, 5 February 2022 at 08:45:04 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > On Friday, 4 February 2022 at 23:04:56 UTC, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 7:04:32 PM UTC+10, Mark Wills wrote:
> > > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:26:08 PM UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > > Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > > It's not Forth - it's usenet!!
> > > Or LessUsefullNet, these days.
> > Wayne, I think it is not correct to blame the tool,
> > if the user cannot control how to use it.
> I just had another look at the 3 MISC articles from then - unfortunately in German -
> and they are really from January 1997 - so 25 years ago ...
> https://wiki.forth-ev.de/lib/exe/fetch.php/vd-archiv:4d1997_1.pdf

And for the fun of it the translation of the first article here, written in German by Bernd Paysan

Porting MISC https://wiki.forth-ev.de/lib/exe/fetch.php/vd-archiv:4d1997_1.pdf
Gforth ported to MISC
by Bernd Paysan paysan@informatik.tu-muenchen.de; Stockmannstrasse 14; D-81 477 Munich
The ability to quickly port a Forth system to other systems and new processors is one of Forth's most popular selling points. But how long does that take? Three man-months? Three weeks? Three days!
We took the following field report from the newsgroup /de/comp/langforth from 2/4/97
Tags: Gforth port MISC
Of course, we also have people at our monthly Munich Forth meetings (well, mostly in the singular ;-) who just don't want to believe that you can do everything much faster with Forth, especially porting to a new CPU. And the person is not at all a PC goof who simply says, "Why a new CPU, my Intel is compatible anyway'', but works in an ASIC company ("Mixed Mode"), which meanwhile also have tinkered with a very small CPU. Now the design is finished, the boards are ordered, but there is no running development software (except an assembler) in sight. Only the unbelievable "One weekend" as an answer to the question "How long does it take to port a Forth to it?".
And in three weeks or so there will be 'Embedded Systems Exhibition', and there should be 'something going on' at the Mixed Mode stand! Well, at some point you will be taken at your word, and it started last Friday at 5 p.m. (by then the simulator was ready, that was a requirement).
The opponents on the one hand:
a processor with "one command: the move". Well, so that something can be calculated, there is an ALU mapped into the address space. Indirect addressing is done by patching the operands for an instruction (there is no opcode because an instruction needs a 0-bit opcode).
Purpose of the processor: Sit somewhere on an FPGA, and take up as little space as possible. So a kind of customer specific PIC, but for low quantities.
On the other hand Jens Wilke, ex-sysop, ex-VD editor and youngest Drachentraeger of the Fothr Group, I, and gforth, actually a desktop Forth, with C instead of assembler underneath. Well, there was a bit of preparatory work involved: the number of necessary primitives was reduced to around 20. Also, gforth's CrossCompiler has always been able to generate 16-bit images, although this has never been used. That's what happened when creating 64-bit images.
The fight: After the people from Mixed Mode handed us the simulator and the current command set, we started on Friday at 7 p.m. Write the assembler (approx. 20 constants ;-), create Intel hex dump, because the simulator reads that, not just binary. At the same time, Jens reduces the number of necessary primitives even further. At some point the primitives were written, then testing began (must have been around midnight). Of course, first of all, belly landing: The addresses are word addresses, but the cross compiler generates byte addresses. So, rewrite primitives. Eventually it's 3 a.m. and I'm going home. Jens continues to work until 6 a.m.
Next problem: The cross-compiler relies on the CLoader, and doesn't spit out the correct code. That was corrected on Saturday evening. The Forth already runs a few steps and then stops. Meanwhile, Jens has written his own simulator, which is faster, and is almost at the prompt. However, it turns out that the doc is wrong, and that the self-written simulator and primitives fit together, but not with the chip ;-). So, on Sunday remove the last bugs from the primitives, build a few more primitives (otherwise you won't get to the bugs in a finite amount of time ;-), and send them to the MixedMode people as an Intel hex file sometime around 1 am (as promised). As announced, you can see how the system runs on real hardware at Embedded. And there's more about the processor and gforth as an EC development system at the Forth conference. Anyway, one thing became clear to me:
It's not enough to reduce everything to a few primitives. That runs slowly on a Pentium. They have to be the right ones, and you have to choose the primitives in such a way that each new primitive gives a decent performance boost (this concerns for example good primitives for implementing dmod, um* and (find)).
The current status is 47 primitives (of which 7 methods to execute words):
:docol :docon :dovar :douser :dodefer :dofield :dodoes
! @X! X@ execute :s ?branch
branch (loop) xor or and + -
2/ O= 0<> = U< l+ cell+
8<< 8>> C@ 2*
>r r> sp@ sp! rp@ rp! drop
lit dup r@ over swap d+ d2*+
Imodstep

On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 6:45:04 PM UTC+10, jpit...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, 4 February 2022 at 23:04:56 UTC, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 7:04:32 PM UTC+10, Mark Wills wrote:
> > > On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:26:08 PM UTC, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > Good Grief. I thin I've seen enough of forth.
> > > > --
> > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > It's not Forth - it's usenet!!
> > Or LessUsefullNet, these days.
> Wayne, I think it is not correct to blame the tool,
> if the user cannot control how to use it.

My apologies Juergen. I was meaning, the actions of certain people, were trying to make Usenet less useful. My original post stating Usenet was degraded by them over time, got lost in posting. I don't want to dwell on it here, so just reposted the short version.