On 7/09/2022 3:32 pm, Wayne morellini wrote:
>
> Now, I'm thread starter and moderator of my own projects, so you know I have to respond to stupidity, otherwise credible work will be destroyed by incredible people. If we had (cough)
> proper moderation, then we wouldn't be having these discussions, you would be out of your ear. Constructive people would be left to their own collaboration.

Presumably you've already tried moderated forums and it didn't go down well.

On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 3:31:13 AM UTC-4, dxforth wrote:
> On 7/09/2022 3:32 pm, Wayne morellini wrote:
> >
> > Now, I'm thread starter and moderator of my own projects, so you know I have to respond to stupidity, otherwise credible work will be destroyed by incredible people. If we had (cough)
> > proper moderation, then we wouldn't be having these discussions, you would be out of your ear. Constructive people would be left to their own collaboration.
> Presumably you've already tried moderated forums and it didn't go down well.

Why do they all come to the Forth group? We haven't heard from the one who's name shall not be mentioned, in a while. I hope he's ok.

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On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 5:31:13 PM UTC+10, dxforth wrote:
> On 7/09/2022 3:32 pm, Wayne morellini wrote:
> >
> > Now, I'm thread starter and moderator of my own projects, so you know I have to respond to stupidity, otherwise credible work will be destroyed by incredible people. If we had (cough)
> > proper moderation, then we wouldn't be having these discussions, you would be out of your ear. Constructive people would be left to their own collaboration.
> Presumably you've already tried moderated forums and it didn't go down well.

Well, couldn't find a central forth one. Presumably with sensible people.

I doesn't matter, this year s a place holder for real people (which makes
me realise, all the ones who make trouble, do not use their own names. Hmm).

On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 6:11:21 PM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
...:
> I doesn't matter, this year s a place holder for real people (which makes
> me realise, all the ones who make trouble, do not use their own names. Hmm).

My Apologies for the typos, I was in a real rush recovering.

It doesn't matter, here is a place holder for real people..

People want to be 'smart' but not discuss "smart".

If only fpga worked at 2ghz in MCU image, and could run at 1mw, it would be fine, and cost a cent
or less, but can we even get within a tenth of all those metrics?

Currently looking for custom silicon of Bernd:s b16 model, or that Jforth or something CPU, to do
An alternative project to the one above.

I would like to keep a misc development flavour across future devices, and don't need the
maximum performance. 200mhz at 1mw at 10 cents would be something. I'm trying to
practically harvest energy from a video signal into a energy storage arrangement then relay
that to a chip at the other end of the connection, which can output VGA or HDMI, using power
off the HDMI port. So, there is little energy on the video signal, and it had to be 6-10 bit at
basic 320x625 50i video speeds ADC with greater than 30db SNR, or 60db. A tall order, but
things worth doing often are.

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 2:37:18 PM UTC+2, none albert wrote:
> I have Wayne morellini in the kill-file.
> At least as you don't comment on the content snip it.
Except for this notorious Italian ALL CAPS spammer, I don't maintain a "killlist".
I love every miserable excuse for a human being in this group.
Including myself, of course.

Hans Bezemer

On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 10:28:36 AM UTC-4, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 2:37:18 PM UTC+2, none albert wrote:
> > I have Wayne morellini in the kill-file.
> > At least as you don't comment on the content snip it.
> Except for this notorious Italian ALL CAPS spammer, I don't maintain a "killlist".
> I love every miserable excuse for a human being in this group.
> Including myself, of course.
>
> Hans Bezemer

That's nice to hear.

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> > Presumably you've already tried moderated forums and it didn't go down well.

> Well, couldn't find a central forth one. Presumably with sensible people.

I believe you may want to establish a blog — something like „Entrepreneur's Blog
of Wayne Morellini” — where you'll publish all your ideas, where you'll run special
forums, moderating them — and of course we all go there to discuss it all in every
detail.
Such blog will attract all the sensible people like a magnet — think about this!

On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:52:31 AM UTC-4, Zbig wrote:
> > > Presumably you've already tried moderated forums and it didn't go down well.
>
> > Well, couldn't find a central forth one. Presumably with sensible people.
> I believe you may want to establish a blog — something like „Entrepreneur's Blog
> of Wayne Morellini” — where you'll publish all your ideas, where you'll run special
> forums, moderating them — and of course we all go there to discuss it all in every
> detail.
> Such blog will attract all the sensible people like a magnet — think about this!

Or... You can post your thoughts here and simply ignore anyone who offends you. Many people are here. Moderation consisting of ignoring those who are not worthy of response is easy and cheap. I do not understand why anyone needs to be replied to if you don't want to reply to them. Nothing anyone says, can detract from the value of an idea. I believe it was Einstein who said, in response to a question about a book, "One Hundred Authors Against Einstein", asked, “Why 100? If I were wrong, one would have been enough."

If the criticism is valid, not much you can do but accept that and adjust your ideas. If the criticism is not valid continue on with your work. No need to respond to the criticism in either case, if you don't like the source.

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> writes:
> Why do they all come to the Forth group? We haven't heard from the
> one who's name shall not be mentioned, in a while. I hope he's ok.

Yes, I have been wondering about him too.

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 12:28:36 AM UTC+10, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 2:37:18 PM UTC+2, none albert wrote:
> > I have Wayne morellini in the kill-file.
> > At least as you don't comment on the content snip it.
> Except for this notorious Italian ALL CAPS spammer, I don't maintain a "killlist".
> I love every miserable excuse for a human being in this group.
> Including myself, of course.
>
> Hans Bezemer

I don't have one either, except for that one you are talking about I think. But
when the same person keeps coming back, to try to post something bad just
after every thread, and many posts, sometimes I have. The good thing about
well moderated groups, is the moderators can see this. But I usually don't report
stuff, which I've learnt and is a bad idea, as they just are so deludedly unreasonable,
they just get worse and worse. It's usually just a few people, even several out of
tens of thousands that have nothing better to do than express themselves negatively
over other's space. You see them make tempting mistakes in other threads you could
comment on, but I usually don't. But, in return they like to make mistakes where there
isn't one in other's threads.

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:09:46 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:52:31 AM UTC-4, Zbig wrote:
> > > > Presumably you've already tried moderated forums and it didn't go down well.
> >
> > > Well, couldn't find a central forth one. Presumably with sensible people.
> > I believe you may want to establish a blog — something like „Entrepreneur's Blog
> > of Wayne Morellini” — where you'll publish all your ideas, where you'll run special
> > forums, moderating them — and of course we all go there to discuss it all in every
> > detail.
> > Such blog will attract all the sensible people like a magnet — think about this!
> Or... You can post your thoughts here and simply ignore anyone who offends you. Many people are here. Moderation consisting of ignoring those who are not worthy of response is easy and cheap. I do not understand why anyone needs to be replied to if you don't want to reply to them. Nothing anyone says, can detract from the value of an idea. I believe it was Einstein who said, in response to a question about a book, "One Hundred Authors Against Einstein", asked, “Why 100? If I were wrong, one would have been enough."
>
> If the criticism is valid, not much you can do but accept that and adjust your ideas. If the criticism is not valid continue on with your work. No need to respond to the criticism in either case, if you don't like the source.
>
> --
>
> Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)
>
> ++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> ++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Well then you Rick. Of course that desperately mistaken or you know it is. It is
damaging reputation of work and idea, of course it has to be answered. The
Solution had always been the Killswitch on trolls in moderated forums. You are
basically, also, just suggesting, inviting anybody to come into any of your
business meetings, and talk rubbish over you and wreck everything. It's funny
how short sighted things get when it's not you under the boot, so to speak. Of
course, by your manner, people might think that it's not your fault you keep
coming into other people's spaces and doing odd stuff. By the best you act, it
might seem that it is perfectly normal to do it. Wow, what a lesson! Of course
That's the opposite of what is the truth. :)

Now, further fantasy diversion, is suggesting you start up a hidden of away
from the community and deludedly post about community projects for nobody
to see it come too. Of course, the convention is you go to where the community
is. After some activity you might then start a blog, or you might have it prepared
beforehand. So, again, a suggestion that undermines things, which any competent
person in business should know.

Here is another one for the skeptics.

A ttl misc computer:

https://youtu.be/_2uXqTi42LI

I think they.have got a version going into the 8mhz range.
Pretty interesting, without a CPU.

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:39:05 PM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:09:46 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 11:52:31 AM UTC-4, Zbig wrote:
> > > > > Presumably you've already tried moderated forums and it didn't go down well.
> > >
> > > > Well, couldn't find a central forth one. Presumably with sensible people.
> > > I believe you may want to establish a blog — something like „Entrepreneur's Blog
> > > of Wayne Morellini” — where you'll publish all your ideas, where you'll run special
> > > forums, moderating them — and of course we all go there to discuss it all in every
> > > detail.
> > > Such blog will attract all the sensible people like a magnet — think about this!
> > Or... You can post your thoughts here and simply ignore anyone who offends you. Many people are here. Moderation consisting of ignoring those who are not worthy of response is easy and cheap. I do not understand why anyone needs to be replied to if you don't want to reply to them. Nothing anyone says, can detract from the value of an idea. I believe it was Einstein who said, in response to a question about a book, "One Hundred Authors Against Einstein", asked, “Why 100? If I were wrong, one would have been enough."
> >
> > If the criticism is valid, not much you can do but accept that and adjust your ideas. If the criticism is not valid continue on with your work. No need to respond to the criticism in either case, if you don't like the source.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)
> >
> > ++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > ++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> Well then you Rick. Of course that desperately mistaken or you know it is.. It is
> damaging reputation of work and idea, of course it has to be answered. The
> Solution had always been the Killswitch on trolls in moderated forums. You are
> basically, also, just suggesting, inviting anybody to come into any of your
> business meetings, and talk rubbish over you and wreck everything. It's funny
> how short sighted things get when it's not you under the boot, so to speak. Of
> course, by your manner, people might think that it's not your fault you keep
> coming into other people's spaces and doing odd stuff. By the best you act, it
> might seem that it is perfectly normal to do it. Wow, what a lesson! Of course
> That's the opposite of what is the truth. :)
>
> Now, further fantasy diversion, is suggesting you start up a hidden of away
> from the community and deludedly post about community projects for nobody
> to see it come too. Of course, the convention is you go to where the community
> is. After some activity you might then start a blog, or you might have it prepared
> beforehand. So, again, a suggestion that undermines things, which any competent
> person in business should know.

Can you explain to me how anything on the Internet is "your space"? Did you create the Internet? Did you create newgroups? Did you create Google Groups?

What is your malfunction that you get side tracked by each and every byte that chatters by in this group?

I need to start ignoring you. You are a tremendous waste of my time.

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On 9/09/2022 8:20 am, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> writes:
>> Why do they all come to the Forth group? We haven't heard from the
>> one who's name shall not be mentioned, in a while. I hope he's ok.
>
> Yes, I have been wondering about him too.

There must be an exit door to reality the rest of us haven't as yet
discovered :)

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 10:16:37 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
...
(Lorem Ipsum) ..

I created the thread and the project knowledge, idea and working out, instead of wrecking things.

... ignoring you. You are a tremendous waste of my time..

Yep! Do you get sick of your intents not working out here?
But instead, you have to insist of answering replies out of sync
repeatedly.

> Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)

Is this Rick Collin Arius?

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:48:42 PM UTC+10, dxforth wrote:
> On 9/09/2022 8:20 am, Paul Rubin wrote:
> > Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> Why do they all come to the Forth group? We haven't heard from the
> >> one who's name shall not be mentioned, in a while. I hope he's ok.
> >
> > Yes, I have been wondering about him too.
> There must be an exit door to reality the rest of us haven't as yet
> discovered :)

Or the entry door :)

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 1:38:46 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 10:16:37 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> ..
> (Lorem Ipsum) ..
>
> I created the thread and the project knowledge, idea and working out, instead of wrecking things.
>
> .. ignoring you. You are a tremendous waste of my time..
>
> Yep! Do you get sick of your intents not working out here?
> But instead, you have to insist of answering replies out of sync
> repeatedly.

What intents? I have no intents. I'm just replying to your posts, typically addressed to me. That seems natural and within the scope and purpose of this group. I've wrecked nothing. You simply can't seem to ignore things you are not interested in. In fact, you repeatedly respond and even ask questions.

I think we know who has the problem.

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On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:44:02 PM UTC+2, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> What intents? I have no intents. I'm just replying to your posts, typically addressed to me. That seems natural and within the scope and purpose of this group. I've wrecked nothing. You simply can't seem to ignore things you are not interested in. In fact, you repeatedly respond and even ask questions.

Ok, I'm responding to your thread - but that doesn't mean I address you specifically.

But can we return to bashing each others compilers and coding styles instead of
discussing the character and behavior of the person visiting the ladies room like
a bunch of teenager girls during a sleepover?

I mean, I know most of you since decades. There is nothing new to explore there.
And yes, we have the pleasure of attracting the occasional gavino. Which is all
right to me. Every usenet group should have its own local douche. I consider it to
be kind of a mascot.

Hans Bezemer

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 4:48:29 AM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> Here is another one for the skeptics.
>
> A ttl misc computer:
>
> https://youtu.be/_2uXqTi42LI
>
> I think they.have got a version going into the 8mhz range.
> Pretty interesting, without a CPU.

Here is some of the more interesting things. After seeing the
above computer, the guy decided up make his own. The
Interesting thing is, he started with the aim of making a more
Commodore 64 machine, but using current parts and dumping
The custom graphics and sound chips. He then decided the
Vic20 architecture is simpler and the parts ate mostly available.
He wants to avoid fpga, and goes through and uses an
Gamedrino board (which has fpga). He decides it's not really to
His taste and gets a couple of guys to put forward custom
Fpga graphics solutions. He then is going around trying to decide
on an sound chip, but parts are hard to come by. But, he would have
been better off doing an complete FPGA design processor and
graphics and sound, as many of the pats are going to get
discontinued anyway, and why settle for second rate parts just
because they are available? He is not making a low energy system
so, fpga is perfectly acceptable and he could get his ,$50 board
maybe, at the size of a raspberry pi. It's ironic, that what he wants,
I imagine the Acorn Risc OS machines might have delivered. I'm
not certain if the Risc OS machines were poke and peek friendly,
but, they were simpler architectures compared to the Amiga.

I still say good work, and maybe this is better than the c65.

https://youtu.be/ayh0qebfD2g

https://youtu.be/sg-6Cjzzg8s

Looking at the colour pallet issues of the Commodore 64 (which they
use for text modes, it occured to me, they would have been much
better off having 5 bit colour pallet. The reason why, is to reproduce
a better colour gamut, display researchers came up with 4 and 5
primary colour schemes. My own research indicates 6-9+ colour
schemes, for lower energy displays (as the visual response peaks
at primary wavelengths different from the purer colour. One of the
issues with primary pixel performance, is that purer colours require a
lot more energy to make the pixel look as bright. Most of the colours
we use could be created by the higher visual response primary
wavelengths, which are simply the locations of maximum average
stimulation from the different primaries (virtually all colour is impure
to some extent, as the visual response in red green and blue, overlaps.
I actually came up with proposals to get past that and get the channels
in the visual system, to respond to only one primary sub range at a time.
Increasing the colour gamut of human vision. It would get an interesting
experiment, as these colours would not have been seen before outside
of unusual circumstances. But, it might not look as good as people
expect. Purer greens look a bit sickly to me. The exciting greens tend to
be the ones with some red channel.im them. That's what you see in
bright green leaves and grass.

Anyway, by adding yellow channel, to red green blue channels, and a
high intensity bit, you get 32 colours across 5 bits. You get two levels
of red green blue and yellow, and black and white, but you get the more
visually stimulating bright florescent green, by mixing yellow and green,
orange from mixing red and yellow, in 2 shades This is what the
Commodore 64 tries to do with light green and having orange and yellow,
bother colours which would have to be left out in a pure RGBI system.
that would go well with a 10 bit 1024 colour system as well, which would
be better than a 256 colour 8 bit colour scheme. Also 256 colour pallet
entries helps render real life like pictures, by pallet entry swapping per
display line, but 1024 pallet entries, would do a better job.

I imagine the reason there are old practical reasons we have 8 bit bytes,
but, a 10 bit word is much closer to base 10 for convenience, and a 10 bit
Instruction address space is much better on an microcontroller than 8 bits.
The reason 10 bit might not be used, I imagine, is that you can't divide
10 bits evenly in half and quarters etc, with even numbers, there is no
middle dividing line except for 5 bits. But, ironically, if you go to 20 bits you
can divide by quarters. 20 bits is also a much better advanced address space than
16 bits for mcu's, and 30 and 40, and so forth, are much better fi
for bigger tasks than 32 and 64 bits address range etc. Back in the earlier 1980's
I think I would dream of doing a 20 bit machine, purely fur this reason. I forget if
I was onto the 10 bit thing by then, maybe not. Latter, I actually warned Chuck
about doin 20/21 bits in an future design, due to interfacing differences, and it
being unfamiliar to people. These days it doesn't matter so much, as you can
put 20 bit wide main memory on chip, with a whole 20 bit architecture of other
Integrated systems on chip. Still waiting for an modernised f21 or i21 like chips.
Maybe with 4 or more nodes on chip. Each chip could emulate a different range
of integrated subsystems. You can see, one chip graphics, another sound and io,
and the third and fourth, code. Integrated psram die in package with chip, for each
processor, mounted on top, as misc is so low energy compared to high rates of
dram memory access. :)

At least I've figured out wha sort of things have been giving my liver such a hard time,
and been doing a lot better off and on lately.

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 10:44:02 PM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
..
> I think we know who has the problem.
= > Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)

That's incredible. You can't help but keep replying here, but you try to "straw man" me (is that the correct term),
as the one doing it, who is the only one with the right to reply and address issues. It's just strange. Anyway,
I've got other issues to get onto while I'm doing better again

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 11:25:59 PM UTC+10, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:44:02 PM UTC+2, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > What intents? I have no intents. I'm just replying to your posts, typically addressed to me. That seems natural and within the scope and purpose of this group. I've wrecked nothing. You simply can't seem to ignore things you are not interested in. In fact, you repeatedly respond and even ask questions.
> Ok, I'm responding to your thread - but that doesn't mean I address you specifically.
>
> But can we return to bashing each others compilers and coding styles instead of
> discussing the character and behavior of the person visiting the ladies room like

.. Who is a man. Rick stay out of me and Han's ladies room!

Hans, this is not compiling and coding styles thread, this is about alternative historical progress,
become completely waste trolls time for the next 6 months, trying to not to let them
outpost moral people, and get the last post in.
...
> I mean, I know most of you since decades. There is nothing new to explore there.
> And yes, we have the pleasure of attracting the occasional gavino. Which is all
> right to me. Every usenet group should have its own local douche. I consider it to
> be kind of a mascot.

Which one?

>
> Hans Bezemer

It's so tragic.

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 9:37:55 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 10:44:02 PM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> .
> > I think we know who has the problem.
> = > Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)
>
> That's incredible. You can't help but keep replying here, but you try to "straw man" me (is that the correct term),
> as the one doing it, who is the only one with the right to reply and address issues. It's just strange. Anyway,
> I've got other issues to get onto while I'm doing better again

LOL!!!! I love the fact that you complain about me replying to your post (after apparently complaining that I posted on your newsgroup), then claim I am the one perpetuating the reply chain.

How do you not understand that you can end this at any time... by not replying to me!!???

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On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:55:36 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 9:37:55 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 10:44:02 PM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > .
> > > I think we know who has the problem.
> > = > Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)
> >
> > That's incredible. You can't help but keep replying here, but you try to "straw man" me (is that the correct term),
> > as the one doing it, who is the only one with the right to reply and address issues. It's just strange. Anyway,
> > I've got other issues to get onto while I'm doing better again
> LOL!!!! I love the fact that you complain about me replying to your post (after apparently complaining that I posted on your newsgroup), then claim I am the one perpetuating the reply chain.
>
> How do you not understand that you can end this at any time... by not replying to me!!???
>
> --
>
> Rick C.

Net completed, he ..."complain about me replying to your post (after apparently complaining that in..", .."the one perpetuating the reply chain." To the only one
with any legitimacy to reply In his own thread, at this stage. It's not like he owns others people's lives, or the group. Rather a character, he interferes negatively
In things that don't concern him, where he doesn't belong doing things he shouldn't do. But, some how he is the one who is right. Unfortunately I have to keep
running my own discussion as he keeps wasting his life running up un-needed debt, showing how he acts to the rest of the world, ruining my reputation and good
work, showing himself up trying to do it behind a veil of secrecy. One should not threaten the security of threads this way!

How does he "not understand that you can end this at any time... by not replying to me!!???".

He further claims it is my newsgroup, which I never ever claimed. A thread is not a newsgroup.

Maybe I should have started a new account to distance myself from him, from the beginning.

Please also note, since I announced I wanted to do a forth microprocessor, he has started talking
about doing such a thing on a fpga. I talked about how hard it is to find a high a target chip
Category with fast enough ADC video sampling, and I see his website has announced a future
Up and coming 10 mega sample video ADC product. Rick Collins Arius. If I announce I have a better
Pogo stick design, what are you going do!

Please also check his webpages. A lot of broke links, including one that now points to a questionable
dating website, I thought that's not right, and closed it. I didn't find any information to validate the
claims of previous work doing FPGA microprocessors. It seems he is in a good position to give the
sort of advice my threads are looking for, but that, I'm more likely to help him instead.

Is there any way to to do text animations?