On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 7:18:27 PM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> Maybe I should have started a new account to distance myself from him, from the beginning.

Or you can just stop replying to my posts. It's not really a big deal. If you don't talk to me, I'll have no reason to talk to you. Can't you understand this simple concept?

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On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:38:53 PM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

Lorem Ipsum

Once again, he pretends to not understand the reciprocal nature of things. He doesn't deserve

to reply, yet he keeps replying anyway. But of course, it's not the big guys fault, it's everybody
else he does it too, they are guilty of not letting him win and destroy. Sounds pretty delusional,
but bullying is that way. So, the umpteen time his lost, his reputation diminishing. Yet, cannot
understand if he stops we stop replying.

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 3:35:11 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:38:53 PM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Lorem Ipsum
>
> Once again, he pretends to not understand the reciprocal nature of things. He doesn't deserve
>
> to reply, yet he keeps replying anyway. But of course, it's not the big guys fault, it's everybody
> else he does it too, they are guilty of not letting him win and destroy. Sounds pretty delusional,
> but bullying is that way. So, the umpteen time his lost, his reputation diminishing. Yet, cannot
> understand if he stops we stop replying.

So this is not a commutative relationship? Only I can stop you from posting a reply to my post by not posting in the first place?

Wow! In some ways, you are worse than Hugh. Oh, crap, I said his name! At least it wasn't three times.

Hugh, Hugh, Hugh!

What if I reply to your post, but don't actually address anything you've said and am obviously not talking to you, really? Would you not reply to that?

It is eerie, having this much control over someone.

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2022 01:09:43 -0700 (PDT)
Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 3:35:11 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:38:53 PM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Lorem Ipsum
> >
> > Once again, he pretends to not understand the reciprocal nature of things. He doesn't deserve
> >
> > to reply, yet he keeps replying anyway. But of course, it's not the big guys fault, it's everybody
> > else he does it too, they are guilty of not letting him win and destroy. Sounds pretty delusional,
> > but bullying is that way. So, the umpteen time his lost, his reputation diminishing. Yet, cannot
> > understand if he stops we stop replying.
>
> So this is not a commutative relationship? Only I can stop you from posting a reply to my post by not posting in the first place?
>
> Wow! In some ways, you are worse than Hugh. Oh, crap, I said his name! At least it wasn't three times.
>
> Hugh, Hugh, Hugh!
>
> What if I reply to your post, but don't actually address anything you've said and am obviously not talking to you, really? Would you not reply to that?
>
> It is eerie, having this much control over someone.
>
How about you both take the time to post something on-topic, and drop the
bickering?

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Bah, and indeed Humbug.

> How about you both take the time to post something on-topic, and drop the
> bickering?

Oh, it's rather normal, you know: https://youtu.be/PIb6AZdTr-A?t=61

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 3:49:41 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> Hans, this is not compiling and coding styles thread, this is about alternative historical progress,
There are other groups for that. Try something in humanities.*

> become completely waste trolls time for the next 6 months, trying to not to let them
> outpost moral people, and get the last post in.
I'm a moral relativist. People who consider themselves "the moral minority" are just
stroking their (super)egos to an orgasm of pure moral superiority.

> > I mean, I know most of you since decades. There is nothing new to explore there.
> > And yes, we have the pleasure of attracting the occasional gavino. Which is all
> > right to me. Every usenet group should have its own local douche. I consider it to
> > be kind of a mascot.
> Which one?
Are you proposing a popular vote or should people apply for the job?

Hans Bezemer

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 6:51:56 PM UTC+10, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

> How about you both take the time to post something on-topic, and drop the
> bickering?

It's whatever the thread starter says the topic is in administration, it's the starters thread.
If they want to chase crazy people having moral and mental meltdowns, doing what they
shouldn't, out, that's their business. It's administration against wrecking. Don't ever equate
and validate the other side as right. They eventually will water 100,000 of their time, be be no
better off, maybe not even wiser, having cost far more to everybody else. But that is what
people who are a certain way and not winners, do! I don't see Steve Jobs or Bill.G come in
here and to this sort of stuff. They have got lives.

Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
show no idea.

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:31:54 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> If they want to chase crazy people having moral and mental meltdowns, doing what they
> shouldn't, out, that's their business.
Who's having the mental breakdown here? I'm sure it's not me! ROFL!

Hans Bezemer

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:37:48 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
> but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
> show no idea.
When eliminating the tedious and boring pejorative statements (very little is left -
but hey, I'll work with it) I think you got a point here. I know of no other language
where most of the participants in Usenet maintain virtually all their own compilers.

Still, we have things to discuss and bicker about. That's the way it is. So cope with
it or get out. I don't think complaining about that will change our ways. No matter
what moral niche you intend to occupy.

Hans Bezemer

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:37:48 PM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
> but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
> show no idea.

I notice Elizabeth stopped coming after some person was waxing negative against
her. Chuck and Jecel (now there's a real multi talented gentleman, doing stuff fyrbtjr greater community) stopped coming. Only some of the really reasonable seem to be left, like Stephen
and me. I don't know how long that will last, with the harrassment going on here.

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:38:28 PM UTC+10, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:

> Who's having the mental breakdown here? I'm sure it's not me!..

ROFL!
>
> Hans Bezemer
You know that sound like a dog barking?

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:43:11 PM UTC+10, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:

> Still, we have things to discuss and bicker about. That's the way it is. So cope with
> it or get out. I don't think complaining about that will change our ways. No matter
> what moral niche you intend to occupy.

Well then, get out! Take your own advice. You are just trolling to defend trolling behaviour,
Which is just immoral defeativenism?. So mostly Hot Air again, "but hey, I'll work with it"!

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:45:52 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:37:48 PM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
> > but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
> > show no idea.
> I notice Elizabeth stopped coming after some person was waxing negative against
> her.
Hugh was against everybody. The entire world AFAIK. I don't think in the end anybody was
taking him serious anymore. Hugh's post were like chirping in the woods.

> Chuck and Jecel (now there's a real multi talented gentleman, doing stuff fyrbtjr greater
community) stopped coming.
I'm waiting for the public statements where they state their reasons for not coming anymore.
If you don't got them, it's conjecture.

> Only some of the really reasonable seem to be left, like Stephen
> and me. I don't know how long that will last, with the harrassment going on here.
"Reasonable" according to what? You're not "reasonable" by any measure of my standards.
You're talking gibberish.

As usual in the Forth community, there are a few parties - each having their own ideas and
agendas. And that's what taking up most of the space over here nowadays. If you go back a
few decades you'll see a LOT more code being posted and discussed. And I miss that. It
makes this space a lot less useful.

Your thread is not part of the solution - it's actually part of the problem.

Hans Bezemer

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:54:33 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> Well then, get out! Take your own advice. You are just trolling to defend trolling behaviour,
> Which is just immoral defeativenism?. So mostly Hot Air again, "but hey, I'll work with it"!
I'm not defending trolling. I'm just saying there are some elements here that display such
behavior and it's obviously how they're wired. No matter what you write will change that.

Now you can tolerate such posts and continue to discuss things or abandon what seems to
be one of the last forums to discuss Forth. And yes, from time to time even Hugh had things
that were worth a read. To me, it's a matter of pragmatism.

And yes, it has influenced by posting behavior as well. I remember very well I posted a small
lib for dynamic strings - and all I got back for that was a lengthy discussion on COMUS words.

Well, that was encouraging! I don't mind criticism on my code in the way:
- You could have done that better;
- If you add this it has even better value;
- You could have been more concise.

And yes, I even take pleasure in "Thank you! I loved that one". But you won't see me here
siting on my moral superior hill preaching to the natives. Since I don't like being preached
to I won't start preaching to others.

Hans Bezemer

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:47:52 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> You know that sound like a dog barking?
Like I always say to my wife when she suggests me to do a chore: WOOF!

Hans Bezemer

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:54:33 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> Well then, get out! Take your own advice.
Well, unfortunately it takes more than a guy like you to make me get out.

Hans Bezemer

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:37:48 PM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
> > but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
> > show no idea.
> I notice Elizabeth stopped coming after some person was waxing negative against
> her.

Pffft! Elizabeth was here for a long time with Hugh ranting and fuming nearly constantly. Did you know she was attacked in a parking garage? I don't recall that had anything to do with this group or Forth, just another nut job. Shows you don't want to tick off nut jobs though.

> Chuck and Jecel (now there's a real multi talented gentleman, doing stuff fyrbtjr greater community) stopped coming. Only some of the really reasonable seem to be left, like Stephen
> and me. I don't know how long that will last, with the harrassment going on here.

No one is harassing you!!! If you want harassment, try sci.electronics.design! That group has some real winners.

The crux of the problem is that you can't understand that I'm simply having a conversation, which you perceive as harassment. What have I said that was harassing?

You literally are incapable of discussing anything technical, because you are overly sensitive and freak out at any negative comments. None of that is harassment. It's a technical discussion. Do you expect everyone to agree with you 100%? How can you ever learn anything without disagreement?

At least these posts have been short.

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On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 8:55:11 AM UTC-4, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:45:52 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:37:48 PM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
> > > but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
> > > show no idea.
> > I notice Elizabeth stopped coming after some person was waxing negative against
> > her.
> Hugh was against everybody. The entire world AFAIK. I don't think in the end anybody was
> taking him serious anymore. Hugh's post were like chirping in the woods.

He exchanged support with Ilya from somewhere in Russia I believe. Ilya was another one who was much more about criticizing than contributing. He wanted standards that didn't standardize anything. Forth should be free like the wind!

> > Chuck and Jecel (now there's a real multi talented gentleman, doing stuff fyrbtjr greater
> community) stopped coming.
> I'm waiting for the public statements where they state their reasons for not coming anymore.
> If you don't got them, it's conjecture.

I didn't know Chuck was ever in this group.

> > Only some of the really reasonable seem to be left, like Stephen
> > and me. I don't know how long that will last, with the harrassment going on here.
> "Reasonable" according to what? You're not "reasonable" by any measure of my standards.
> You're talking gibberish.

Now, now... you are going to get the harassment label put on you.

> As usual in the Forth community, there are a few parties - each having their own ideas and
> agendas. And that's what taking up most of the space over here nowadays. If you go back a
> few decades you'll see a LOT more code being posted and discussed. And I miss that. It
> makes this space a lot less useful.
>
> Your thread is not part of the solution - it's actually part of the problem.

Wow! Those are strong words. Hugh,.... I mean Wayne has made some technical posts. They are long and rambling and never discuss anything in sufficient detail that anyone else can really participate, but they are technical and they are posts.

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> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:43:11 PM UTC+10, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:

Another logic breakdown.

Morally preaching defence of bad immoral behaviour. Small fry equating questioning a routine as the same as trying to systematically undermine and take down entire projects.

Where's your big movement you are doing?

You do realise, many of these little projects I'm looking at, can bring them thousand or more
new members here?! He would be out numbered.

You know forth is so dieing, you can type misc forth etc into YouTube, and hardly get any
relevant result. That's a top interest forth technology. It just doesn't have the mind space. One video was something like: three
dieing languages you should not learn. Everybody managing their little island has mismanaged
forth.

Now, he's got you doing his work for him..

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 1:42:49 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:37:48 PM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
> > > but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
> > > show no idea.
> > I notice Elizabeth stopped coming after some person was waxing negative against
> > her.
> Pffft! Elizabeth was here for a long time with Hugh ranting and fuming nearly constantly. Did you know she was attacked in a parking garage? I don't recall that had anything to do with this group or Forth, just another nut job. Shows you don't want to tick off nut jobs though.
> > Chuck and Jecel (now there's a real multi talented gentleman, doing stuff fyrbtjr greater community) stopped coming. Only some of the really reasonable seem to be left, like Stephen
> > and me. I don't know how long that will last, with the harrassment going on here.
> No one is harassing you!!! If you want harassment, try sci.electronics.design! That group has some real winners.
>
> The crux of the problem is that you can't understand that I'm simply having a conversation, which you perceive as harassment. What have I said that was harassing?
>
> You literally are incapable of discussing anything technical, because you are overly sensitive and freak out at any negative comments. None of that is harassment. It's a technical discussion. Do you expect everyone to agree with you 100%? How can you ever learn anything without disagreement?
>
> At least these posts have been short.
> --
>
> Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)

Lol, what a nutter post. Irrationally not telling the truth and undermining is not responsible
reasonable rational technical discussion. You feign not understanding simple enough things
and use irrational logic. Don't come here taking out your frustrations. Important things are
happening and you simply aren't as important here. No use being jealous of things beyond you.
Do you see me going around jealous of the fastest runner on Earth, and I used to run fast, so
what, Il not important? You know Forth better tha myself, so what, it's not important. My
lack is not as important as their others abundance. You should learn that. You can't practically
creatively design as well, get used to it, rather than try to win at things other than what you are
good in. You only look smaller and smaller, and more and more petty. You bring doing this
sort of stuff for years, but since covid, you have gone off the wall. One got a local guy here, who tries this stuff and went off during covid. You don't impress.

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 12:11:52 PM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 1:42:49 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:37:48 PM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
> > > > but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
> > > > show no idea.
> > > I notice Elizabeth stopped coming after some person was waxing negative against
> > > her.
> > Pffft! Elizabeth was here for a long time with Hugh ranting and fuming nearly constantly. Did you know she was attacked in a parking garage? I don't recall that had anything to do with this group or Forth, just another nut job. Shows you don't want to tick off nut jobs though.
> > > Chuck and Jecel (now there's a real multi talented gentleman, doing stuff fyrbtjr greater community) stopped coming. Only some of the really reasonable seem to be left, like Stephen
> > > and me. I don't know how long that will last, with the harrassment going on here.
> > No one is harassing you!!! If you want harassment, try sci.electronics.design! That group has some real winners.
> >
> > The crux of the problem is that you can't understand that I'm simply having a conversation, which you perceive as harassment. What have I said that was harassing?
> >
> > You literally are incapable of discussing anything technical, because you are overly sensitive and freak out at any negative comments. None of that is harassment. It's a technical discussion. Do you expect everyone to agree with you 100%? How can you ever learn anything without disagreement?
> >
> > At least these posts have been short.
> > --
> >
> > Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)
> Lol, what a nutter post. Irrationally not telling the truth and undermining is not responsible
> reasonable rational technical discussion. You feign not understanding simple enough things
> and use irrational logic. Don't come here taking out your frustrations. Important things are
> happening and you simply aren't as important here. No use being jealous of things beyond you.
> Do you see me going around jealous of the fastest runner on Earth, and I used to run fast, so
> what, Il not important? You know Forth better tha myself, so what, it's not important. My
> lack is not as important as their others abundance. You should learn that.. You can't practically
> creatively design as well, get used to it, rather than try to win at things other than what you are
> good in. You only look smaller and smaller, and more and more petty. You bring doing this
> sort of stuff for years, but since covid, you have gone off the wall. One got a local guy here, who tries this stuff and went off during covid. You don't impress.

Yes, definitely another Hugh, but without quite so much vitriol and with nowhere near the technical ability. You could say a lot about Hugh, but you could never say he was not technically gifted.

I can't figure out why, someone who says he has a purpose here, is so easily distracted from that purpose. Why he would rather post whiny, complaining posts that have no value to anyone, and detract from his own purposes?

Very strange. He certainly has that in common with Hugh.

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On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 5:50:30 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:43:11 PM UTC+10, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:
> Another logic breakdown.
I don't think so. Not before you analyze the hell out of my ramblings, use the proper jargon
(yes, logic has its own perfectly defined concepts) and apply the proper rules. As a matter
of fact, if I apply the rules of "Graham triangle of disagreement", you don't rise out of the
most primitive levels mentioned there.

> Morally preaching defense of bad immoral behavior. Small fry equating questioning a
> routine as the same as trying to systematically undermine and take down entire projects.
As I said - I'm not much of a moralist. I'm just pointing out the futility of your ramblings.
And where have I "systematically undermine and take down entire projects"?

If I criticize I always point out what is lacking there. I never come along without a valid
argument (yes, I keep an eye on "Graham triangle of disagreement"). I've often even offered
help for those things I find lacking.

BTW, if someone has to complain about "systematically undermine and take down a project"
it should be me. 4tH was called an "abomination" by some when it came out - and was
systematically boycotted by some sites for quite some time.

You know what? I couldn't care less. I was having so much fun scratching that itch, that I
could never be persuaded to give it up. No matter who thought what. When I've made up
my mind, I simply ignore what people think. It's irrelevant in my teleology.

> Where's your big movement you are doing?
Read my lips: I - DON'T - CARE. You could all be programming in Java, I'd STILL be doing my
thing. Even if any of my projects were really taking off, I wasn't planning for that. It took me
three years before I put out any code. Basically because I got tired of mailing copies.

> You do realise, many of these little projects I'm looking at, can bring them thousand or more
> new members here?! He would be out numbered.
Again - do your thing. I don't care. I'm not doing this because I expect a place in heaven or
generations honoring my achievements. I do what I do because I like doing it.

But be my guest - prove your point. Words are cheap.
> You know forth is so dieing, you can type misc forth etc into YouTube, and hardly get any
> relevant result.
After all this - do you really expect an answer from me?

Hans Bezemer

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 1:35:36 PM UTC-4, the.bee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 5:50:30 PM UTC+2, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:43:11 PM UTC+10, the.bee...@gmail..com wrote:
> > Another logic breakdown.
> I don't think so. Not before you analyze the hell out of my ramblings, use the proper jargon
> (yes, logic has its own perfectly defined concepts) and apply the proper rules. As a matter
> of fact, if I apply the rules of "Graham triangle of disagreement", you don't rise out of the
> most primitive levels mentioned there.
>
> > Morally preaching defense of bad immoral behavior. Small fry equating questioning a
> > routine as the same as trying to systematically undermine and take down entire projects.
> As I said - I'm not much of a moralist. I'm just pointing out the futility of your ramblings.
> And where have I "systematically undermine and take down entire projects"?
>
> If I criticize I always point out what is lacking there. I never come along without a valid
> argument (yes, I keep an eye on "Graham triangle of disagreement"). I've often even offered
> help for those things I find lacking.
>
> BTW, if someone has to complain about "systematically undermine and take down a project"
> it should be me. 4tH was called an "abomination" by some when it came out - and was
> systematically boycotted by some sites for quite some time.
>
> You know what? I couldn't care less. I was having so much fun scratching that itch, that I
> could never be persuaded to give it up. No matter who thought what. When I've made up
> my mind, I simply ignore what people think. It's irrelevant in my teleology.
> > Where's your big movement you are doing?
> Read my lips: I - DON'T - CARE. You could all be programming in Java, I'd STILL be doing my
> thing. Even if any of my projects were really taking off, I wasn't planning for that. It took me
> three years before I put out any code. Basically because I got tired of mailing copies.
> > You do realise, many of these little projects I'm looking at, can bring them thousand or more
> > new members here?! He would be out numbered.
> Again - do your thing. I don't care. I'm not doing this because I expect a place in heaven or
> generations honoring my achievements. I do what I do because I like doing it.
>
> But be my guest - prove your point. Words are cheap.
> > You know forth is so dieing, you can type misc forth etc into YouTube, and hardly get any
> > relevant result.
> After all this - do you really expect an answer from me?
>
> Hans Bezemer

I'm starting to think this guy has neurological issues that cause him to behave this way. He seems technically capable, but not able to express his ideas in a coherent manner. Then he also engages in pointless debate and doesn't understand when people point out he is free to ignore the pointless comments he is responding to.

That really does remind me of Hugh, but without Hugh's other insanities, like hating Jews.

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On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:09:53 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 12:11:52 PM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 1:42:49 AM UTC+10, gnuarm.del...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC-4, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:37:48 PM UTC+10, Wayne morellini wrote:
> > > > > Man, I've been in collaborative projects before, even with what is termed "rat bags",
> > > > > but you guys just don't get it. I know Forth attracts loners, but the statements here,
> > > > > show no idea.
> > > > I notice Elizabeth stopped coming after some person was waxing negative against
> > > > her.
> > > Pffft! Elizabeth was here for a long time with Hugh ranting and fuming nearly constantly. Did you know she was attacked in a parking garage? I don't recall that had anything to do with this group or Forth, just another nut job. Shows you don't want to tick off nut jobs though.
> > > > Chuck and Jecel (now there's a real multi talented gentleman, doing stuff fyrbtjr greater community) stopped coming. Only some of the really reasonable seem to be left, like Stephen
> > > > and me. I don't know how long that will last, with the harrassment going on here.
> > > No one is harassing you!!! If you want harassment, try sci.electronics.design! That group has some real winners.
> > >
> > > The crux of the problem is that you can't understand that I'm simply having a conversation, which you perceive as harassment. What have I said that was harassing?
> > >
> > > You literally are incapable of discussing anything technical, because you are overly sensitive and freak out at any negative comments. None of that is harassment. It's a technical discussion. Do you expect everyone to agree with you 100%? How can you ever learn anything without disagreement?
> > >
> > > At least these posts have been short.
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> > > Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)
> > Lol, what a nutter post. Irrationally not telling the truth and undermining is not responsible
> > reasonable rational technical discussion. You feign not understanding simple enough things
> > and use irrational logic. Don't come here taking out your frustrations. Important things are
> > happening and you simply aren't as important here. No use being jealous of things beyond you.
> > Do you see me going around jealous of the fastest runner on Earth, and I used to run fast, so
> > what, Il not important? You know Forth better tha myself, so what, it's not important. My
> > lack is not as important as their others abundance. You should learn that. You can't practically
> > creatively design as well, get used to it, rather than try to win at things other than what you are
> > good in. You only look smaller and smaller, and more and more petty. You bring doing this
> > sort of stuff for years, but since covid, you have gone off the wall. One got a local guy here, who tries this stuff and went off during covid. You don't impress.
> Yes, definitely another Hugh, but without quite so much vitriol and with nowhere near the technical ability. You could say a lot about Hugh, but you could never say he was not technically gifted.
>
> I can't figure out why, someone who says he has a purpose here, is so easily distracted from that purpose. Why he would rather post whiny, complaining posts that have no value to anyone, and detract from his own purposes?
>
> Very strange. He certainly has that in common with Hugh.
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> Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)
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