On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:38:38 PM UTC-7, Edmund wrote:

> Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?

hi stupid
take this crap elsewhere
you numb idiot

In article <srktcr$ae1$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...

> Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
>

They certainly can be. Someone can feel compelled to do something that
they are vehemently opposed to.

I had someone at work who got vaccinated because they wanted the
passport to go on holiday last year. He wouldn't shut up about being
'forced' to take the vaccine and still complains about it even now.

For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him
and wouldn't shut up about that either.

--
Alan LeHun

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 3:17:48 PM UTC-7, Alan LeHun wrote:

fuck off
your same crap has been spewed for years
got anything related to f1?
fucking moron

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 3:17:48 PM UTC-7, Alan LeHun wrote:

> Trump

lol

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 3:17:48 PM UTC-7, Alan LeHun wrote:

> I had someone at work who got vaccinated

thats what you talk about?
you sick asshole

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 3:17:48 PM UTC-7, Alan LeHun wrote:

> Trump

is trump connected to f1?

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 3:17:48 PM UTC-7, Alan LeHun wrote:

> For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him
> and wouldn't shut up about that either.

oh poor fucking you
this aint facebook asshole

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:28:10 AM UTC-7, martin...@gmail.com wrote:

> are you Covid vaccinated?

hey harry martin
fuck off
and get a life

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:38:38 PM UTC-7, Edmund wrote:

> Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?

fuck you
you fucking useless cunt

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:38:38 PM UTC-7, Edmund wrote:

> Answer the question

fuck off
you fucking idiot

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 2:38:38 PM UTC-7, Edmund wrote:

> Answer the question

you survived aids
be happy
and fuck off

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 3:17:48 PM UTC-7, Alan LeHun wrote:

> Trump

you survived aids
be happy
and fuck off

On 1/11/22 11:17 PM, Alan LeHun wrote:
> In article <srktcr$ae1$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
>
>> Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
>>
>
> They certainly can be. Someone can feel compelled to do something that
> they are vehemently opposed to.
>
> I had someone at work who got vaccinated because they wanted the
> passport to go on holiday last year. He wouldn't shut up about being
> 'forced' to take the vaccine and still complains about it even now.

Well if he never in his life was vaccinated before and now they force
him, he have a point here don't you think.
>
> For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him
> and wouldn't shut up about that either.

Oh dear that really must be a terrible person so he is not blindly
obeying the MSM like you?
Can't you fire him? Is still allowed to think for oneself, if so I hope
that will be revoked ASAP and mobilize the thought police.

alister wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 07:42:34 +0800, Tedros Fauci wrote:
>
>> If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of "asylum
>> seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
>> You can't bring your private chef either.
>
> or simply follow their rules, don't lie*, & get in simple
>
> * dopey nutjob or whatever his name is claims to have tested +ve on 16 but
> was seen making presentations to children on 17th, so either he is lieing
> about the test or worse a total scumbag who does not give a shit about
> infecting others, take your pick.
>
>
>
>
Now the Serbian president has said that Novax shoulda been isolating...
that is intersting, it is an election year and one would expect she
would be blindly supporting Novax, even though he lives in Monaco to
avoid paying millions in taxes to his home nation.

In article <srm912$ddq$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
>
> On 1/11/22 11:17 PM, Alan LeHun wrote:
> > In article <srktcr$ae1$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
> >
> >> Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
> >>
> >
> > They certainly can be. Someone can feel compelled to do something that
> > they are vehemently opposed to.
> >
> > I had someone at work who got vaccinated because they wanted the
> > passport to go on holiday last year. He wouldn't shut up about being
> > 'forced' to take the vaccine and still complains about it even now.
>
> Well if he never in his life was vaccinated before and now they force
> him, he have a point here don't you think.

He wasn't forced. He choose to believe that he had been forced as
accepting that he had voluntarily had the vaccine (which is, indeed, the
case) would be an admission of personal failure.

People /can/ choose not to have the vaccine. They can not choose to
force other people to interact or otherwise engage with them. If others
decide that people must be vaccinated before entering their country they
are perfectly entitled to do so. That is not 'forcing' people to have
the vaccine.

> >
> > For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him
> > and wouldn't shut up about that either.
>
> Oh dear that really must be a terrible person so he is not blindly
> obeying the MSM like you?
> Can't you fire him? Is still allowed to think for oneself, if so I hope
> that will be revoked ASAP and mobilize the thought police.

The idea that Trump had the presidency stolen from him is absurd. I find
it telling when people say otherwise.

--
Alan LeHun

On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:38:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
>>>>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Make that "BRAINWASHED "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> would already be
>>>>>>>>>> double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
>>>>>>>> thought!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
>>>>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Try answering the question.
>>>>
>>>> Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
>>>
>>> Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
>>> up your own brainless additions.
>>
>> ================================
>> ~misfit~:
>> "Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
>> well.]
>>
>> You:
>> "Make that "BRAINWASHED"
>> ===============================
>>
>> Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
>
>Why don't you think about it yourself, you don't learn much if
>everything has to be explained to you

Continued evasion noted.

>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> suggests that you
>>>> have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
>>>
>>> If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.

BTW, *you* started the insults by labelling me as BRAINWASHED as I
have received both doses of the vaccine plus the booster.

>>
>> IOW, no alternative explanation available
>
>That are certainly other words with another meaning.

I honestly haven't a clue what that is supposed to mean.

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
>>>
>>> So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
>>> multiple vaccinated person?
>>
>> I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
>
>Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?

My original post was in the context of *Covid vaccination*. From
everything you have said (and not said) so far, I continue to believe
that in that context of Covid vaccination, you do belong to that group
of anti-vaxxers who are fueled by some sort of conspiracy that the
Covid vaccine is really some nefarious plot by "them". I'm open to
being convinced otherwise but evasion won't convince me.

BTW, in regard to your "multiple vaccinations", how many of those were
voluntary on your part i.e. not decided by your parents when you were
a child or necessary for a visa to enter some country?

>

On 1/12/22 4:53 PM, Alan LeHun wrote:
> In article <srm912$ddq$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
>>
>> On 1/11/22 11:17 PM, Alan LeHun wrote:
>>> In article <srktcr$ae1$1@dont-email.me>, nomail@hotmail.com says...
>>>
>>>> Answer the question, is a multiple vaccinated person a ant-vaxxer?
>>>>
>>>
>>> They certainly can be. Someone can feel compelled to do something that
>>> they are vehemently opposed to.
>>>
>>> I had someone at work who got vaccinated because they wanted the
>>> passport to go on holiday last year. He wouldn't shut up about being
>>> 'forced' to take the vaccine and still complains about it even now.
>>
>> Well if he never in his life was vaccinated before and now they force
>> him, he have a point here don't you think.
>
> He wasn't forced. He choose to believe that he had been forced as
> accepting that he had voluntarily had the vaccine (which is, indeed, the
> case) would be an admission of personal failure.
>
> People /can/ choose not to have the vaccine. They can not choose to
> force other people to interact or otherwise engage with them. If others
> decide that people must be vaccinated before entering their country they
> are perfectly entitled to do so. That is not 'forcing' people to have
> the vaccine.

Well that other country makes it even more complicated, a country can
demand such a foolish things I guess.
Demanding people to let them inject an experimental drug with an
emergency allowance that is not even out of the required testing period
and long term effects are unknown.
Good they recently redefined the word "vaccine"
in order to make it possible to call these medical experiments "vaccines".

>
>>>
>>> For context, he also thought Trump had the US presidency stolen from him
>>> and wouldn't shut up about that either.
>>
>> Oh dear that really must be a terrible person so he is not blindly
>> obeying the MSM like you?
>> Can't you fire him? Is still allowed to think for oneself, if so I hope
>> that will be revoked ASAP and mobilize the thought police.
>
> The idea that Trump had the presidency stolen from him is absurd. I find
> it telling when people say otherwise.
>

I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime peace
of human intellect
as your President, the most popular one ever!
I am sure US citizens are drunk of happiness ever since.

--
“The further a society drift from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

On 1/12/2022 11:41 AM, Edmund wrote:
> I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime
> peace of human intellect as your President, the most popular one
> ever!

Biden's current approval rating of 43.1% (538's weighted average) is
higher than Trump's at this stage (and indeed over almost all of) his
presidency.

Guess which one has claimed to be "the most popular one ever!"

--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
As for behavior, I have shocking news:
Physicists can be arrogant. - Mike Tamor

On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
>>>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Make that "BRAINWASHED "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> would already be
>>>>>>>>> double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
>>>>>>> thought!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
>>>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
>>>>>
>>>>> So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
>>>>
>>>> Try answering the question.
>>>
>>> Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
>>
>> Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
>> up your own brainless additions.
>
> ================================
> ~misfit~:
> "Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
> well.]
>
> You:
> "Make that "BRAINWASHED"
> ===============================
>
> Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.

My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
is not sane.
So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious
health issues with Covid.
No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
extinguished versions of the Virus.

Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
or had a previous infection.
No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).

I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good
reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs
at all.>
>
>
>>
>>> suggests that you
>>> have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
>>
>> If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
>
> IOW, no alternative explanation available.
>
>>
>>>
>>> [1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
>>
>> So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
>> multiple vaccinated person?
>
> I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?

My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO

--
“The further a society drift from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> The idea that Trump had the presidency stolen from him is absurd. I find
>> it telling when people say otherwise.
>>
>
> I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime peace
> of human intellect
> as your President, the most popular one ever!
> I am sure US citizens are drunk of happiness ever since.
>
Your pathetic attempt at sarcasm is no response to the statement: “The idea
that Trump had the presidency stolen from him is absurd.”

--
Sir Tim

On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
>>>>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Make that "BRAINWASHED "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> would already be
>>>>>>>>>> double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
>>>>>>>> thought!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
>>>>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Try answering the question.
>>>>
>>>> Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
>>>
>>> Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
>>> up your own brainless additions.
>>
>> ================================
>> ~misfit~:
>> "Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
>> well.]
>>
>> You:
>> "Make that "BRAINWASHED"
>> ===============================
>>
>> Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
>
>My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
>is not sane.

Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as
BRAINWASHED.

>So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious
>health issues with Covid.
>No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
>superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
>extinguished versions of the Virus.
>
>Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
>or had a previous infection.

There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK
alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?

>No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
>at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).

All the top medical experts state that the booster significantly
increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
hospitalisation. Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
qualified experts.

>
>I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.

You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
"sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.

>There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good
>reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs
>at all.>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> suggests that you
>>>> have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
>>>
>>> If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
>>
>> IOW, no alternative explanation available.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
>>>
>>> So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
>>> multiple vaccinated person?
>>
>> I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
>
>My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
>That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO

Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.

On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Make that "BRAINWASHED "
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> would already be
>>>>>>>>>>> double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
>>>>>>>>> thought!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
>>>>>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
>>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try answering the question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
>>>>
>>>> Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
>>>> up your own brainless additions.
>>>
>>> ================================
>>> ~misfit~:
>>> "Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
>>> well.]
>>>
>>> You:
>>> "Make that "BRAINWASHED"
>>> ===============================
>>>
>>> Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
>>
>> My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
>> is not sane.
>
> Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as
> BRAINWASHED.

I didn't, you did that yourself.
What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated
and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where
brainwashed.
To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed.

>
>> So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious
>> health issues with Covid.
>> No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
>> superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
>> extinguished versions of the Virus.
>>
>> Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
>> or had a previous infection.
>
> There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK
> alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?

I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate.
>
>> No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
>> at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
>
> All the top medical experts state

Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion
impossible, are you aware of that?

> that the booster significantly
> increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
> hospitalisation.

Pfizer you mean?
Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know.

> Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
> qualified experts.

Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you
are doing?
>
>>
>> I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
>
> You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
> everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
> "sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.

Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.
Not every vaccinated human is brainwashed but you most certainly are.
>
>
>> There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good
>> reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs
>> at all.>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> suggests that you
>>>>> have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
>>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
>>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
>>>>
>>>> If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
>>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
>>>
>>> IOW, no alternative explanation available.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
>>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
>>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
>>>>
>>>> So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
>>>> multiple vaccinated person?
>>>
>>> I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
>>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
>>
>> My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
>> That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
>
> Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.

Remind me or are you realizing now how foolish your suggestion is.

Edmund

--
“The further a society drift from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

On 1/12/22 6:49 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
> On 1/12/2022 11:41 AM, Edmund wrote:
>> I am, sure you are one of the 80 million who voted for this prime
>> peace of human intellect as your President, the most popular one
>> ever!
>
>
> Biden's current approval rating of 43.1% (538's weighted average) is
> higher than Trump's at this stage (and indeed over almost all of) his
> presidency.
>
> Guess which one has claimed to be "the most popular one ever!"
>
I don't have to guess, the brilliant Biden got more votes then any
president ever.
( so they say )

--
“The further a society drift from the truth,
the more it will hate those who speak it”

George Orwell

On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:18:04 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Make that "BRAINWASHED "
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> would already be
>>>>>>>>>>>> double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
>>>>>>>>>> thought!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
>>>>>>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
>>>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try answering the question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
>>>>>
>>>>> Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
>>>>> up your own brainless additions.
>>>>
>>>> ================================
>>>> ~misfit~:
>>>> "Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
>>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
>>>> well.]
>>>>
>>>> You:
>>>> "Make that "BRAINWASHED"
>>>> ===============================
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
>>>
>>> My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
>>> is not sane.
>>
>> Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as
>> BRAINWASHED.
>
>I didn't, you did that yourself.
>What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated
>and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where
>brainwashed.

Nope, as already explained to you, the OP, according to you, was
including *everyone* in his claim. You simply changed the word "sane"
to "BRAINWASHED" so your comment equally applied to *everyone*.

>To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed.
>
>>
>>> So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious
>>> health issues with Covid.
>>> No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
>>> superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
>>> extinguished versions of the Virus.
>>>
>>> Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
>>> or had a previous infection.
>>
>> There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK
>> alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
>
>I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate.

I'll rephrase my question. There are currently 8.5K people in hospital
in South Africa with Covid [1]. Do you know anyone in hospital with
the cold?

[1]
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/

>>
>>> No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
>>> at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
>>
>> All the top medical experts state
>
>Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion
>impossible, are you aware of that?

How so? If you have a medical problem do you go to a doctor or do you
go looking for some self-declared expert on social media?

>
>> that the booster significantly
>> increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
>> hospitalisation.
>
>Pfizer you mean?
>Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know.

How about the scientists in your own country:

"The scientists [in South Africa] concluded that "previous infection,
followed by vaccination - or likely a booster - is probably protective
against omicron, and almost certainly against severe disease."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/covid-booster-dose-is-crucial-against-omicron-variant-heres-why.html
The article summarises results from all around the world, all saying
the same thing.

>
>> Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
>> qualified experts.
>
>Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you
>are doing?
>>
>>>
>>> I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
>>
>> You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
>> everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
>> "sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.
>
>Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.

I have an underlying cardiac condition for which I take 8 tablets
every day. Does that make me brainwashed?

>Not every vaccinated human is brainwashed but you most certainly are.
>>
>>
>>> There are good reasons for some people to do so, there are equally good
>>> reasons for a lot of people not to take boosters or no experimental jabs
>>> at all.>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> suggests that you
>>>>>> have bought into the conspiracy that Covid vaccination is some plot by
>>>>>> "them"[1] to subvert people for some nefarious reason. Your reluctance
>>>>>> to offer an alternative explanation tends to confirm that.
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone has a question for me without foolish MSM insults I'll be
>>>>> more then happy to respond, you did not qualify.
>>>>
>>>> IOW, no alternative explanation available.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Who exactly "they" are seems to vary among anti-vaxxers; some
>>>>>> think it is the government, some think it is Bill Gates, others don't
>>>>>> seem to have any real idea who they are talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> So my question was do I qualify for that in your weird world as a
>>>>> multiple vaccinated person?
>>>>
>>>> I note that you don't include Covid vaccination in your "multiple". So
>>>> be straight about it - are you Covid vaccinated?
>>>
>>> My question still stands, can a multiple vaccinated person be a anti-vaxxer?
>>> That is a pretty ludicrous statement IMO
>>
>> Answered in my earlier response to your preceeding post.
>
>Remind me or are you realizing now how foolish your suggestion is.

On 1/13/22 12:24 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:18:04 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/13/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:57:09 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/11/22 1:28 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:18:57 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/11/22 9:51 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:12:34 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 5:08 PM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:08:05 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/22 10:56 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:00:06 +0100, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/22 3:38 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 12:42 pm, Tedros Fauci wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If unvaccinated, get put in "immigration hotel" with a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "asylum seekers" who are more accustomed to cockroaches and bed bugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't bring your private chef either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make that "BRAINWASHED "
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would already be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So Edmund is a conspiracy fueled ant-vaxxer ... gosh, who would have
>>>>>>>>>>> thought!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ah another brainless conspiracy accuser, what conspiracy might that be sir?
>>>>>>>>>> FYI I have a number of vaccinations, do I qualify in your imaginary
>>>>>>>>>> world for ant-vaxxer whatever that might be?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So why are you describing vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try answering the question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your description of vaccinated people as BRAINWASHED
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read again what I said and to what I responded, this time without making
>>>>>> up your own brainless additions.
>>>>>
>>>>> ================================
>>>>> ~misfit~:
>>>>> "Your question doesn't make any sense as "anybody sane" [would already
>>>>> be double vaccinated and, by the Melbourne GP, likely boosted as
>>>>> well.]
>>>>>
>>>>> You:
>>>>> "Make that "BRAINWASHED"
>>>>> ===============================
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to point out what part of your response I missed.
>>>>
>>>> My reaction was to the one who claimed that everyone who is not boosted
>>>> is not sane.
>>>
>>> Then deal with that person without labelling me and people like me as
>>> BRAINWASHED.
>>
>> I didn't, you did that yourself.
>> What I said ( in one sentence ) that brainwashed people are vaccinated
>> and boosted, what I didn't say is that all vaccinated people where
>> brainwashed.
>
> Nope, as already explained to you, the OP, according to you, was
> including *everyone* in his claim. You simply changed the word "sane"
> to "BRAINWASHED" so your comment equally applied to *everyone*.

Now why don't you write down that sentence, read it out loud and let is
sink in.
Maybe, just maybe you will found out that it then says BRAINWASHED
people are vaccinated.

Spoiler : that is not the same as vaccinated people are brainwashed.

>
>> To be fair to you and seeing how you attack me, yup YOU are brainwashed.
>>
>>>
>>>> So no matter if you are a healthy teenager with ZERO change of serious
>>>> health issues with Covid.
>>>> No matter if you already had covid and recovered and therefore have a
>>>> superior immunity compared to the "vaccines" that where made for the
>>>> extinguished versions of the Virus.
>>>>
>>>> Now we have Omicron, which is like a cold after you have been vaccinated
>>>> or had a previous infection.
>>>
>>> There are almost 20K people in hospital with Covid right now in the UK
>>> alone. How many do you reckon are in hospital with the cold?
>>
>> I don't know, in SA the hospitals are empty with a 20% vaccination rate.
>
> I'll rephrase my question. There are currently 8.5K people in hospital
> in South Africa with Covid [1]. Do you know anyone in hospital with
> the cold?

Well at the moment I don't have friends in hospitals but I am 100% sure
there are people in hospitals which have a cold.
Doctors say that a high percentage of those
registered Covid patients where accidental, meaning they didn't even
knew they had it until they where tested in the hospital.
Still the numbers working out as 0.01% of the population.
Not many on ventilators and no long hospital stay.
>
> [1]
> https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/
>
>>>
>>>> No need for boosters at all although you have more change of getting it
>>>> at after 2 jabs, compared to no jabs of a booster :-).
>>>
>>> All the top medical experts state
>>
>> Starting with such a statement, is childish and make any discussion
>> impossible, are you aware of that?
>
> How so? If you have a medical problem do you go to a doctor or do you
> go looking for some self-declared expert on social media?

Claiming something foolish as ALL TOP EXPERTS....
You really don't understand what is wrong with that?
If I can name one single expert who doesn't agree with your baseless
statement, what will you do, claiming it is a conspiracy theorist?
How about the inventor of the mRNA technic?

>
>>
>>> that the booster significantly
>>> increases protection and significantl* reduces the chances of
>>> hospitalisation.
>>
>> Pfizer you mean?
>> Can you show data of that? We are talking about Omicron now you know.
>
> How about the scientists in your own country:
>
> "The scientists [in South Africa] concluded that "previous infection,
> followed by vaccination - or likely a booster - is probably protective
> against omicron, and almost certainly against severe disease."
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/covid-booster-dose-is-crucial-against-omicron-variant-heres-why.html
> The article summarises results from all around the world, all saying
> the same thing.

Well as you can read, that article is remarkably vague and they use
terms as
"probably" and "almost" along with a couple obvious things like previous
infections in addition to boosters will likely improve protection.
They avoid naming the fact that SA shows that unvaccinated people
recover very well from Omicron.

>
>
>>
>>> Just like in F1, you reckon you know better than the
>>> qualified experts.
>>
>> Another off topic childish baseless labeling, are you aware of what you
>> are doing?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't said EVERYBODY who got jabbed and got a booster is brainwashed.
>>>
>>> You've just said that the person you responded to claimed that
>>> everyone who is not boosted is not sane. You simply changed the word
>>> "sane" to BRAINWASHED which meant you too were referring to everyone.
>>
>> Nope, brainwashed people go blindly for boosters every month.
>
> I have an underlying cardiac condition for which I take 8 tablets
> every day. Does that make me brainwashed?