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Re: Masi Out

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 by: texas gate - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 22:25 UTC

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 2:21:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Nope.

are you logging in again as rtr?

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 by: keithr0 - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 22:33 UTC

On 18/02/2022 2:05 am, D Munz wrote:
> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>
> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>
> FWIW
> DLM
Now that Mercedes have his head on a pike, perhaps Ham can stop being so
petulant.

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 by: alister - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:00 UTC

On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:21:48 -0800, Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-17 1:04 p.m., alister wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 12:47:06 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-02-17 12:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 7:15 am, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>>>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>>>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously
>>>>>>>>>> Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FWIW DLM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly
>>>>>>>> "promote"
>>>>>>>>   him)?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'or possibly "promote" him'...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...or could you just not read those words?
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's sum up:
>>>>>
>>>>> Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA
>>>>> position.
>>>>>
>>>>> The FIA won't disclose what their inquiry discovered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you can't read the words that I actually wrote, there's no
>>>>> chance that YOU can read between the lines...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but I bet there are those that can.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell me:
>>>>>
>>>>> When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...do they typically offer that person a different position in the
>>>>> company?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?
>>>>
>>>> Sacked 'from a position' and given another is not misuse of the term.
>>>>
>>>> geoff
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Show an example of it being used in that manner.
>>>
>>> You've got the entire internet to choose from.
>>
>> As everyone knows any possition he is offered is simply a sweetener to
>> prevent any protest on his part after removal (probably a better word
>> than sacked in this case but the implication is the same you are just
>> being a pedantic twat playing with words as normal)
>
> Nope.
>
> I'm making the very salient point that if Masi acted solely on his own,
> they could have actually sacked him, and nothing he could say would
> matter.
>
> It's clear from the fact that they aren't disclosing what the inquiry
> found that there are things they don't want to reveal, and from the fact
> that they're offering Masi another position, it's clear he's being
> incented not to relate what he knows on the matter.

Expect a tinfoil shortage as you will need all of it for your hat

--
Humans are communications junkies. We just can't get enough.
-- Alan Kay

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 by: Alan - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:12 UTC

On 2022-02-17 3:00 p.m., alister wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:21:48 -0800, Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-17 1:04 p.m., alister wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 12:47:06 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-17 12:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/2022 7:15 am, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 10:09 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>>>>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously
>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> FWIW DLM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly
>>>>>>>>> "promote"
>>>>>>>>>   him)?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed, sacked as RD as several of us said; notably not YOU.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'or possibly "promote" him'...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...or could you just not read those words?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's sum up:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Masi is not being fired: he is being offered a different FIA
>>>>>> position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The FIA won't disclose what their inquiry discovered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since you can't read the words that I actually wrote, there's no
>>>>>> chance that YOU can read between the lines...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but I bet there are those that can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...do they typically offer that person a different position in the
>>>>>> company?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sacked 'from a position' and given another is not misuse of the term.
>>>>>
>>>>> geoff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Show an example of it being used in that manner.
>>>>
>>>> You've got the entire internet to choose from.
>>>
>>> As everyone knows any possition he is offered is simply a sweetener to
>>> prevent any protest on his part after removal (probably a better word
>>> than sacked in this case but the implication is the same you are just
>>> being a pedantic twat playing with words as normal)
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> I'm making the very salient point that if Masi acted solely on his own,
>> they could have actually sacked him, and nothing he could say would
>> matter.
>>
>> It's clear from the fact that they aren't disclosing what the inquiry
>> found that there are things they don't want to reveal, and from the fact
>> that they're offering Masi another position, it's clear he's being
>> incented not to relate what he knows on the matter.
>
>
> Expect a tinfoil shortage as you will need all of it for your hat

So what's your explanation?

It was all Masi's fault... ...but they're offering him another position,
why?

They held an inquiry, but they won't release their findings...

....why?

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 by: texas gate - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:23 UTC

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:12:09 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> So what's your explanation?
> It was all Masi's fault... ...but they're offering him another position,
> why?
> They held an inquiry, but they won't release their findings...
> ...why?

lots of questions from the resident asshole
what happened to rtr?

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 by: geoff - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:24 UTC

On 18/02/2022 9:41 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-02-17 12:19 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 5:05 am, D Munz wrote:
>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>
>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to accept
>>> whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a good
>>> precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a
>>> change would be a good thing."
>>>
>>> FWIW
>>> DLM
>>
>> Was inevitable.
>
> Yup.
>
> The FIA needed a scapegoat.
>

Made easy by an obviously culpable party.

> Why do YOU think they won't disclose the results of the inquiry?

No idea. But they should.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:26 UTC

On 18/02/2022 9:47 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-02-17 12:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 7:15 am, Alan wrote:
..
>>>
>>> Tell me:
>>>
>>> When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...
>>>
>>> ...do they typically offer that person a different position in the
>>> company?
>>>
>>> Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?
>>
>> Sacked 'from a position' and given another is not misuse of the term.
>>
>> geoff
>>
>
> Show an example of it being used in that manner.
>
> You've got the entire internet to choose from.

I have other better things to do. Not playing your silly game of pedantics.

geoff

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 by: Alan - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:27 UTC

On 2022-02-17 3:24 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 9:41 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 12:19 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 5:05 am, D Munz wrote:
>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>
>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to accept
>>>> whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a good
>>>> precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt that a
>>>> change would be a good thing."
>>>>
>>>> FWIW
>>>> DLM
>>>
>>> Was inevitable.
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>> The FIA needed a scapegoat.
>>
>
> Made easy by an obviously culpable party.

See below.

>
>> Why do YOU think they won't disclose the results of the inquiry?
>
> No idea. But they should.

And if Masi were the only one involved at the FIA, they would have.

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 by: Alan - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:28 UTC

On 2022-02-17 3:26 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 9:47 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 12:16 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 7:15 am, Alan wrote:
> .
>>>>
>>>> Tell me:
>>>>
>>>> When a company finds someone has committed major misconduct...
>>>>
>>>> ...do they typically offer that person a different position in the
>>>> company?
>>>>
>>>> Is someone "sacked" when he's actually offered a different position?
>>>
>>> Sacked 'from a position' and given another is not misuse of the term.
>>>
>>> geoff
>>>
>>
>> Show an example of it being used in that manner.
>>
>> You've got the entire internet to choose from.
>
> I have other better things to do. Not playing your silly game of pedantics.

So you couldn't find a single example.

Got it.

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On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:26:08 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:

> I have other better things to do. Not playing your silly game of pedantics.
but he will try again with his rtr account

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On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:27:50 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> And if Masi were the only one involved at the FIA, they would have.

where is your rtr account?

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 by: geoff - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:32 UTC

On 18/02/2022 9:39 am, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-02-17 12:15 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 6:46 am, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>>>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>>>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>>>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>
>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>
>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>>   him)?"
>>>
>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>
>>
>> Well somebody has to sweep the floor.
>>
>> geoff
>
> You won't keep him quiet about what happened by giving him that job.

He is unlikely, in any position, to say "Yes. I fucked up and admit I am
to susceptible to bullying to be objective in that position".

geoff

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 by: texas gate - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:34 UTC

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:28:16 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Got it.

you aint got fuck all
just a loser, piece of shit,
rotten cunt hole,
trolling, cock sucker

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 by: Alan - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:36 UTC

On 2022-02-17 3:32 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 9:39 am, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 12:15 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 6:46 am, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>>>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>>>>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>>>>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>>>>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>>>   him)?"
>>>>
>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>
>>>
>>> Well somebody has to sweep the floor.
>>>
>>> geoff
>>
>> You won't keep him quiet about what happened by giving him that job.
>
> He is unlikely, in any position, to say "Yes. I fucked up and admit I am
> to susceptible to bullying to be objective in that position".

He's quite likely to say "I was under pressure from my bosses to make
sure the race ended with excitement rather than under a yellow flag".

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 by: geoff - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:37 UTC

On 18/02/2022 12:27 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-02-17 3:24 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 9:41 am, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-17 12:19 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 5:05 am, D Munz wrote:
>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>
>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW
>>>>> DLM
>>>>
>>>> Was inevitable.
>>>
>>> Yup.
>>>
>>> The FIA needed a scapegoat.
>>>
>>
>> Made easy by an obviously culpable party.
>
> See below.
>
>>
>>> Why do YOU think they won't disclose the results of the inquiry?
>>
>> No idea. But they should.
>
> And if Masi were the only one involved at the FIA, they would have.

Didn't realise that you sat in on his role at that race, and had access
to all comms involved.

If anybody else was involved in coming to that decision, yes, then they
too should be re-assigned, sacked from that job, or whatever you want to
call it.

geoff

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 by: geoff - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:41 UTC

On 18/02/2022 12:36 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-02-17 3:32 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 9:39 am, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-17 12:15 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 6:46 am, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move Michael
>>>>>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>>>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>>>>>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>>>>>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>>>>>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>>>>   him)?"
>>>>>
>>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well somebody has to sweep the floor.
>>>>
>>>> geoff
>>>
>>> You won't keep him quiet about what happened by giving him that job.
>>
>> He is unlikely, in any position, to say "Yes. I fucked up and admit I
>> am to susceptible to bullying to be objective in that position".
>
> He's quite likely to say "I was under pressure from my bosses to make
> sure the race ended with excitement rather than under a yellow flag".

Maybe ...

geoff

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On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:36:37 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> He's quite likely to say "I was under pressure from my bosses to make
> sure the race ended with excitement rather than under a yellow flag".

if he is a pussy like you

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 by: Alan - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:48 UTC

On 2022-02-17 3:41 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 12:36 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 3:32 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 9:39 am, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-17 12:15 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/2022 6:46 am, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:32 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 8:05 a.m., D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>> Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi will be
>>>>>>>>> offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants to
>>>>>>>>> accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is not a
>>>>>>>>> good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem felt
>>>>>>>>> that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Called it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure you did. LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "What do you want to be that they keep Masi (or possibly "promote"
>>>>>>>   him)?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "He says Masi will be offered another FIA role,"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well somebody has to sweep the floor.
>>>>>
>>>>> geoff
>>>>
>>>> You won't keep him quiet about what happened by giving him that job.
>>>
>>> He is unlikely, in any position, to say "Yes. I fucked up and admit I
>>> am to susceptible to bullying to be objective in that position".
>>
>> He's quite likely to say "I was under pressure from my bosses to make
>> sure the race ended with excitement rather than under a yellow flag".
>
> Maybe ...
>
> geoff
>

If all the inquiry discovered is that Masi acted alone...

....why in the world would they keep that a secret?

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 by: Alan - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:49 UTC

On 2022-02-17 3:37 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 12:27 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 3:24 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 9:41 am, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-17 12:19 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/2022 5:05 am, D Munz wrote:
>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian wants
>>>>>> to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen. This is
>>>>>> not a good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben Sulayem
>>>>>> felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>
>>>>> Was inevitable.
>>>>
>>>> Yup.
>>>>
>>>> The FIA needed a scapegoat.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Made easy by an obviously culpable party.
>>
>> See below.
>>
>>>
>>>> Why do YOU think they won't disclose the results of the inquiry?
>>>
>>> No idea. But they should.
>>
>> And if Masi were the only one involved at the FIA, they would have.
>
> Didn't realise that you sat in on his role at that race, and had access
> to all comms involved.

I don't of course.

>
> If anybody else was involved in coming to that decision, yes, then they
> too should be re-assigned, sacked from that job, or whatever you want to
> call it.

And that's why we're not getting the results of the inquiry and Masi is
getting a new job and not being sacked.

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 by: geoff - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 03:27 UTC

On 18/02/2022 12:49 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-02-17 3:37 p.m., geoff wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 12:27 pm, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-17 3:24 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 9:41 am, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-02-17 12:19 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/02/2022 5:05 am, D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously Ben
>>>>>>> Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was inevitable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup.
>>>>>
>>>>> The FIA needed a scapegoat.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Made easy by an obviously culpable party.
>>>
>>> See below.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Why do YOU think they won't disclose the results of the inquiry?
>>>>
>>>> No idea. But they should.
>>>
>>> And if Masi were the only one involved at the FIA, they would have.
>>
>> Didn't realise that you sat in on his role at that race, and had
>> access to all comms involved.
>
> I don't of course.
>
>>
>> If anybody else was involved in coming to that decision, yes, then
>> they too should be re-assigned, sacked from that job, or whatever you
>> want to call it.
>
> And that's why we're not getting the results of the inquiry and Masi is
> getting a new job and not being sacked.

Sacked from that job, and given another position in the organisation.

Not to split hairs .....

geoff

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 by: texas gate - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 03:35 UTC

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:49:34 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> I don't of course.

oh of course
you fucking queer

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 by: texas gate - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 03:37 UTC

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:27:31 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:

> Not to split hairs .....

no cunt hairs in your world

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 by: Alan - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 03:40 UTC

On 2022-02-17 7:27 p.m., geoff wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 12:49 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-02-17 3:37 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 12:27 pm, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-17 3:24 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/2022 9:41 am, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-02-17 12:19 p.m., geoff wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/02/2022 5:05 am, D Munz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Apparently they have decided. From Joe Saward (joeblogsf1):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has decided to move
>>>>>>>> Michael Masi out of the role of F1 Race Director. He says Masi
>>>>>>>> will be offered another FIA role, but whether the Australian
>>>>>>>> wants to accept whatever role is on offer remains to be seen.
>>>>>>>> This is not a good precedent for the federation but obviously
>>>>>>>> Ben Sulayem felt that a change would be a good thing."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW
>>>>>>>> DLM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was inevitable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The FIA needed a scapegoat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Made easy by an obviously culpable party.
>>>>
>>>> See below.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do YOU think they won't disclose the results of the inquiry?
>>>>>
>>>>> No idea. But they should.
>>>>
>>>> And if Masi were the only one involved at the FIA, they would have.
>>>
>>> Didn't realise that you sat in on his role at that race, and had
>>> access to all comms involved.
>>
>> I don't of course.
>>
>>>
>>> If anybody else was involved in coming to that decision, yes, then
>>> they too should be re-assigned, sacked from that job, or whatever you
>>> want to call it.
>>
>> And that's why we're not getting the results of the inquiry and Masi
>> is getting a new job and not being sacked.
>
> Sacked from that job, and given another position in the organisation.

Sorry, but no.

I asked you to show an example where sacking someone resulted in them
getting another position with the same organization...

....and you failed.

>
> Not to split hairs .....
>
> geoff

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On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:40:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Sorry, but no.

sorry is for pussys
you fucking pussy

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 by: texas gate - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 03:49 UTC

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:40:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> ...and you failed.

oh fuck
your parents failed
you piece of shit

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