On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 17:49:08 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 13:54:49 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> > > Nonsense. Changing Doppler shifts in the spectra of stars
> > > can only give you the (instantaneous) velocity of the Earth,
> > > (and to a far too low accuracy too)
> >
> > Haven't your idiot gurus taught you about the relativity
> > of the motion? The Earth velocity is 0, according to all
> > Earth observers (i.e. all of us) regardless of any Doppler
> > shifts.
> Certainly, but then the collective velocity of the whole universe
> will be variable.

And that's exactly what we (observers from Earth) should
observe according to your idiot gurus. Haven't you heard
of their magnificient gedankens with trains and cars and
boats and barns?

Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:

> On 2022-06-02 11:54:46 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:
>
> > Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:
> >
> >> Temporary deviations can be determined from Doppler shifts in
> >> spectra of stars.
> >
> > Nonsense. Changing Doppler shifts in the spectra of stars
> > can only give you the (instantaneous) velocity of the Earth,
> > (and to a far too low accuracy too)
>
> with respect to the babrycentre, which is sufficent to determine
> the velcity of the barycentre wrt Earth.
> As relative velcities in Solar System are known, that is sufficient
> to determine the velocity of the barycentre wrt any object,
> e.g. Sun.

You really need to rethink this,

Jan

perjantai 20. toukokuuta 2022 klo 13.53.17 UTC+3 deliver...@gmail.com kirjoitti:
> Time does not exist. The word "time" is a human shorthand for saying "the measurement of movement from A to B". There is no absolute "time" phenomenon that is out there somewhere waiting to be understood. . For example, we humans have decided to refer to a twenty-fourth movement of the earth's rotation as one hour. Hence, Einsteins spacetime does not exist. Gravity is not caused by a curvature of spacetime, it is caused by the expansion of the universe. As things move away from each other due to expansion, this movement away from each other causes inertia in all directions, and the inertia causes gravity. Don't over-complicate things.
> Russell Eaton

"Mass of electron is only due to expansion resistance of the Universe."
This important "title" was that what I tried to understand and TEST in my earlier posting chain in this sci.physics.relativity (Google Groups).

Best Regards,
Hannu Poropudas

On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 8:48:13 PM UTC-4, RichD wrote:
> On May 20, deliver...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Gravity is not caused by a curvature of spacetime, it is caused by the
> > expansion of the universe. As things move away from each other due
> > to expansion, this movement away from each other causes inertia in
> > all directions, and the inertia causes gravity. Don't over-complicate things.
> That sounds pretty complicated.

Take a look at the paper in the following link:
http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015gravity.pdf
>
> --
> Rich

perjantai 3. kesäkuuta 2022 klo 11.21.57 UTC+3 Hannu Poropudas kirjoitti:

>
> "Mass of electron is only due to expansion resistance of the Universe."

> This important "title" was that what I tried to understand and TEST in my earlier posting chain in this sci.physics.relativity (Google Groups).
>
> Best Regards,
> Hannu Poropudas

"It is Not What You Know that Matters... It's Knowing What You Don't."

Hannu