El viernes, 8 de abril de 2022 a las 3:21:32 UTC+2, Cydrome Leader escribió:
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 04:43:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> > <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Apr 2022 19:34:46 -0700) it happened
> >>jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> >><1fdf4hh8kb17vfe3u...@4ax.com>:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 17:00:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> >>><pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson
> >>>><sp...@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_...@giganews.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
> >>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2...@gioia.aioe.org>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
> >>>>>>> Cannibals beware!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia
> >>>>>wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each
> >>>>>country individually...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>John ;-#)#
> >>>>
> >>>>So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
> >>>>Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?
> >>>>
> >>>>NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers.
> >>>>NATO are just commie haters.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Makes sense. "Communism" always progresses to rule by thugs, with lots
> >>>of deaths.
> >>
> >>Depends
> >>Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
> >>Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
> >>Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo polluting their land for many many years, civilians
> >>Afghanistan drones used on civilians
> >>US capitalism
> >
> > Saved billions of lives all around the world.
> >
> >>The list is much much longer,
> >>So who are the thugs,
> >
> > Stalin, Mao, Xi, Castro, PolPot, Maduro. Tens of millions dead for no
> > reason, not even a war.
> >
> >>
> >>And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
> >>What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,
> >
> > Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
> > because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.
> >
> >>Europe does not have a fraction of the debt that US has,
> >> Sure completion will speed innovation, nothing wrong with that and people owning stuff
> >>But the US Military Industrial Complex has gone out of control,
> >>the leaders are below 100 IQ, the crime is out of control,
> >>the infrastructure is falling apart and in the coming nuclear exchange.....
> >>Ruled by lies and fear US is
> >>
> >>
> >
> > It's actually great here now. I sure wouldn't prefer to live in China
> > or the Congo or Cuba, or even the Netherlands.
> >
> > Just look at the direction of migration. People are free to leave the
> > US, but millions are fighting to get in.
> >
> > That's another mark of communism: people are not allowed to leave.
> Yup, I think many forgot or don't even know the berlin wall was made to
> keep the east germans from escaping and not to keep the commies "out" of
> west germany. Anyone that made it over was welcomed. Same with the korean
> border.
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On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
> Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?
>
> NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers.
> NATO are just commie haters.
>
> US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to create wars and sell weapons

That's a real hodgepodge of dismissive half-truths, there.
US does't 'sell weapons' indiscriminately. Time was, USSR was fighting Nazis in german
uniforms, and they got US material support of the lend/lease type. Nowadays, Russia is trying
to claim a similar mission, but the US isn't buying the story.

NATO is an alliance, not a hate group; NATO doesn't have pawn-like attributes, either.

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 9:44:04 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians

No, Tokyo would have been the place to hit lots of civilians; those
chosen coastal towns were supporting the Japanese navy

> Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.

That's a weed killer, not 'used on civilians'

> Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo

.... antitank armor-piercing, and a heavy-metal poison a lot like old lead paint was

On Saturday, 27 August 2022 at 05:23:11 UTC+1, whit3rd wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 9:44:04 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
> > Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
> No, Tokyo would have been the place to hit lots of civilians; those
> chosen coastal towns were supporting the Japanese navy
> > Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
> That's a weed killer, not 'used on civilians'
The problem was that it was contaminated with dioxins and when sprayed
from aircraft it inevitably landed on people.
> > Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo
> ... antitank armor-piercing, and a heavy-metal poison a lot like old lead paint was

whit3rd wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
>> So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
>> Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?
>>
>> NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers.
>> NATO are just commie haters.
>>
>> US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to create wars and sell weapons
>
> That's a real hodgepodge of dismissive half-truths, there.
> US does't 'sell weapons' indiscriminately. Time was, USSR was fighting Nazis in german
> uniforms, and they got US material support of the lend/lease type. Nowadays, Russia is trying
> to claim a similar mission, but the US isn't buying the story.
>
> NATO is an alliance, not a hate group; NATO doesn't have pawn-like attributes, either.
>

You guys keep falling for Jan's trolling. He says off-the-wall stuff,
you guys explode, he laughs and keeps doing it.

It's been going on for years and years now.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

On 8/27/2022 21:43, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> whit3rd wrote:
>> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>
>>> So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
>>> Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?
>>>
>>> NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist
>>> robbers.
>>> NATO are just commie haters.
>>>
>>> US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to
>>> create wars and sell weapons
>>
>> That's a real hodgepodge of dismissive half-truths, there.
>> US does't 'sell weapons' indiscriminately.   Time was, USSR was
>> fighting Nazis in german
>> uniforms, and they got US material support of the lend/lease type.
>> Nowadays, Russia is trying
>> to claim a similar mission, but the US isn't buying the story.
>>
>> NATO is an alliance, not a hate group; NATO doesn't have pawn-like
>> attributes, either.
>>
>
> You guys keep falling for Jan's trolling.  He says off-the-wall stuff,
> you guys explode, he laughs and keeps doing it.
>
> It's been going on for years and years now.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs

Indeed so, but he believes most if not all of it.
I know it looks crazy to you to a point of just not being plausible
but trust me, this is the case. I know a few other people who are
not stupid at all, have decent knowledge in our field etc. and are
completely brainwashed by the Russian propaganda nonsense in the
same way.

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 12:01:16 PM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> > On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> > <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >
> > >onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> > >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
> > >> >> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> This
> > >> >>
> > >> >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
> > >> >>
> > >> >> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
> > >> >> you can think.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
> > >> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
> > >
> > >unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
> > The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
> > sub-0.1%.
> >
> > What would "per mil" mean?
> parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
>
> here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice

Please refresh my memory. Where is "here"?

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On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 20.52.28 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
> > Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> > > torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> > >> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> > >> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> > >>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> > >>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> > >>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
> > >>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
> > >>>>>>>> you can think.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
> > >>>>>> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
> > >>>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
> > >>>> sub-0.1%.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What would "per mil" mean?
> > >>>
> > >>> parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
> > >>>
> > >>> here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
> > >>> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.
> > >
> > > should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%
> > >
> > >
> > You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian.
> just looked it up, it's multiplied by the per mille, so half a month's income for 0.05%
> a months income for 0.1%

What do they do if you have no income, just wealth?

> I think 0.5 permille is the limit in most of Europe
> > One
> > drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)
> yeh, one or two drinks. Simpler to just not drink at all if driving

The UK TV shows seem to indicate that's the case. I've never gotten anyone to tell me what the law actually says.

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On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 4:02:39 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 3/31/2022 3:48 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> > torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 20.52.28 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
> >> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> >>> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> >>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> >>>>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
> >>>>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
> >>>>>>>>>> you can think.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
> >>>>>>>> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
> >>>>>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
> >>>>>> sub-0.1%.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What would "per mil" mean?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
> >>>>>
> >>>>> here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
> >>>>> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.
> >>>
> >>> should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%
> >>>
> >>>
> >> You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian.
> >
> > just looked it up, it's multiplied by the per mille, so half a month's income for 0.05%
> > a months income for 0.1%
> >
> > I think 0.5 permille is the limit in most of Europe
> >
> >> One
> >> drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)
> >
> > yeh, one or two drinks. Simpler to just not drink at all if driving
> Most bars in the US would go out of business if people couldn't drive to
> get there.

I think not. We are just used to what we do. When I was a kid, some guys I was working for talked about one Friday night when they were driving around drinking. They were hitting the hard stuff and even tossed an empty out to hit a road sign. That was when the red lights came on (no one used blue back then). The cop checked the IDs and said, "Maybe you boys should head home and sober up tonight." That was all.

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Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
> On 8/27/2022 21:43, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> whit3rd wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>
>>>> So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
>>>> Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?
>>>>
>>>> NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist
>>>> robbers.
>>>> NATO are just commie haters.
>>>>
>>>> US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to
>>>> create wars and sell weapons
>>>
>>> That's a real hodgepodge of dismissive half-truths, there.
>>> US does't 'sell weapons' indiscriminately.   Time was, USSR was
>>> fighting Nazis in german
>>> uniforms, and they got US material support of the lend/lease type.
>>> Nowadays, Russia is trying
>>> to claim a similar mission, but the US isn't buying the story.
>>>
>>> NATO is an alliance, not a hate group; NATO doesn't have pawn-like
>>> attributes, either.
>>>
>>
>> You guys keep falling for Jan's trolling.  He says off-the-wall stuff,
>> you guys explode, he laughs and keeps doing it.
>>
>> It's been going on for years and years now.

> Indeed so, but he believes most if not all of it.
> I know it looks crazy to you to a point of just not being plausible
> but trust me, this is the case. I know a few other people who are
> not stupid at all, have decent knowledge in our field etc. and are
> completely brainwashed by the Russian propaganda nonsense in the
> same way.

Maybe so, but why do you care? The likelihood of changing the thinking
of an old guy who lives over 1000 miles from you isn't especially large.

Plus being an underdog doesn't make you a saint.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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