On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

>
>https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>
>I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>
>This
>
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>
>talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>you can think.

Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:
'yes'.

A very old trick.

RL

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>
>>I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>
>>This
>>
>>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>
>>talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>you can think.
>
>Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:
>
>'yes'.
>
>A very old trick.
>
>RL

Read the book. You might learn something.

--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

On a sunny day (Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:16:05 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<qpdb4h1ar825a15bcica4qbguevbde1g0s@4ax.com>:

>On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 05:52:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>><68c94h97sr8kmt2brg4jsf3ra4smqge2tj@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>>
>>>I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>>brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>>
>>>This
>>>
>>>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>>
>>>talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>>you can think.
>>
>>Sales ads
>>I have not used any alcohol apart from for cleaning stuff since 1974 or there about.
>>You would not believe my experiences before that when sailing,,,
>>I think some were reproduced in those 'Pirates of the Caribbean' movies.
>>like me laying on the floor.
>>In my school days.. day out sailing, director stepping over me, 'Oh its him again'
>>Well I passed anyways,
>>
>>No alcohol does not help you thinking clearly.
>
>Read the book maybe. It's interesting.
>
>Of course, people are different. I personally don't benefit from
>alcohol to enable free thinking, but apparently most people do.

I think it sort of diminishes some inhibitions maybe.
It may however give you a decent headache the next day.
When I stopped, I never really missed it, same with drugs.
Lived for years in a sort of community with no alcohol and no meat,
never missed it.
Today I was eating some nice Italian made Liquorice, had not tasted that for a long time.
:-)

torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>
> >onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
> >> >>
> >> >> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
> >> >> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
> >> >>
> >> >> This
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
> >> >>
> >> >> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
> >> >> you can think.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
> >> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
> >
> >unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
> sub-0.1%.
>
> What would "per mil" mean?

parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:02:36 -0400, Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>>
>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>>
>>> This
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>>
>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>> you can think.
>>>
>>>
>> Obligatory XKCD reference:
>>
>> https://xkcd.com/323/

>
> The x-axis scales with body mass.

In units of shots per hour, pretty much--although it's really muscle
mass that counts, because (unlike THC) alcohol isn't very fat-soluble.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

legg wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>
>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>
>> This
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>
>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>> you can think.
>
> Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:
>
> 'yes'.
>
> A very old trick.
>
> RL
>

IIRC it was Herodotus who says, in his account of the Persian empire,
that the "laws of the Medes and the Persians", once enacted, could never
be changed, and so they debated them twice--once drunk and once sober.

(That way you're more likely to get people to think straight and give
their honest opinion, even if not necessarily at the same time.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

>torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>>
>> >onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>> >> >> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>> >> >>
>> >> >> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>> >> >> you can think.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
>> >> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
>> >
>> >unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
>> sub-0.1%.
>>
>> What would "per mil" mean?
>
>parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
>
>here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
>to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice
>
>

Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>
> >torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> >> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
> >> >> >> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
> >> >> >> you can think.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
> >> >> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
> >> >
> >> >unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
> >> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
> >> sub-0.1%.
> >>
> >> What would "per mil" mean?
> >
> >parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
> >
> >here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
> >to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice
> >
> >
> Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%

Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>>
>>> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
>>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>>>>>>> you can think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
>>>>>> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
>>>>>
>>>>> unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
>>>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
>>>> sub-0.1%.
>>>>
>>>> What would "per mil" mean?
>>>
>>> parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
>>>
>>> here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
>>> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice
>>>
>>>
>> Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.
>
> should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%
>
>
You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian. One
drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 20.52.28 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> > torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> >> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> >>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
> >>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
> >>>>>>>> you can think.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
> >>>>>> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
> >>>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
> >>>> sub-0.1%.
> >>>>
> >>>> What would "per mil" mean?
> >>>
> >>> parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
> >>>
> >>> here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
> >>> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.
> >
> > should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%
> >
> >
> You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian.

just looked it up, it's multiplied by the per mille, so half a month's income for 0.05%
a months income for 0.1%

I think 0.5 permille is the limit in most of Europe

> One
> drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)

yeh, one or two drinks. Simpler to just not drink at all if driving

On 3/31/2022 10:26 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:08:24 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/30/2022 10:13 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>>>>> onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> alcohol increase reaction time
>>>> A lot sure does. Not all functions are monotonic.
>>>
>>> This one is.
>>>
>>>>>> I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.
>>>>>
>>>>> or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol
>>>>
>>>> No, it's real, as verified by extensive experiment.
>>>>
>>>> Read the Drunk book.
>>>
>>> Activities that depend on rapid reactions are helped by low doses of alcohol - you waste less time overthinking about what you are going to do.
>>>
>>> Rifle-shooting - as a competitive sport also bans alcohol. Rapid reaction time doesn't come into that, but the minimal tranquilising effect of a little ethanol does help. It also make you more dangerous to the other competitors, in the same way that even low doses of alcohol make you a more dangerous driver, as even though you are more likely to put the car into exactly the place you want to, it becomes more likely that you will want to put it into place that you shouldn't.
>>>
>>
>> Alcohol on a first date is kinda like that, too...
>
> Alcohol is a key component of human socialization. Maybe the muslim
> countries are so hostile because they don't drink together.

Many other countries don't have the stigma against marijuana the US
does, where you can easily meet the type of guy who drinks three
six-packs a week but thinks weed is a "gateway drug"

On 3/31/2022 10:26 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:08:24 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/30/2022 10:13 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>>> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>>>>> onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> alcohol increase reaction time
>>>> A lot sure does. Not all functions are monotonic.
>>>
>>> This one is.
>>>
>>>>>> I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.
>>>>>
>>>>> or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol
>>>>
>>>> No, it's real, as verified by extensive experiment.
>>>>
>>>> Read the Drunk book.
>>>
>>> Activities that depend on rapid reactions are helped by low doses of alcohol - you waste less time overthinking about what you are going to do.
>>>
>>> Rifle-shooting - as a competitive sport also bans alcohol. Rapid reaction time doesn't come into that, but the minimal tranquilising effect of a little ethanol does help. It also make you more dangerous to the other competitors, in the same way that even low doses of alcohol make you a more dangerous driver, as even though you are more likely to put the car into exactly the place you want to, it becomes more likely that you will want to put it into place that you shouldn't.
>>>
>>
>> Alcohol on a first date is kinda like that, too...
>
> Alcohol is a key component of human socialization. Maybe the muslim
> countries are so hostile because they don't drink together.

Alcohol makes people really angry sometimes, I think airlines have to
deal with this like 1000 times a day...

On 3/31/2022 3:48 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 20.52.28 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
>>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
>>>>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>>>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>>>>>>>>> you can think.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
>>>>>>>> That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
>>>>>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
>>>>>> sub-0.1%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What would "per mil" mean?
>>>>>
>>>>> parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille
>>>>>
>>>>> here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
>>>>> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.
>>>
>>> should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%
>>>
>>>
>> You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian.
>
> just looked it up, it's multiplied by the per mille, so half a month's income for 0.05%
> a months income for 0.1%
>
> I think 0.5 permille is the limit in most of Europe
>
>> One
>> drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)
>
> yeh, one or two drinks. Simpler to just not drink at all if driving

Most bars in the US would go out of business if people couldn't drive to
get there.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

>
>.<https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace>
>
>I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>
>This
>
><https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382>
>
>talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>you can think.

I have not read the book, but I do have one comment after scanning the
TOC:

There is a far simpler explanation for the fact that of all the
alcohols, only ethyl alcohol can be consumed without immediate death:
rotten fruit.

Fruit that has fallen from trees and is just sitting there soon
ferments. Critters that can consume such fruit without dying gain
access to a fairly large food source. So it was pretty much
inevitable that some critters would evolve the needed enzyme.

This happened well before humans evolved, but they liked to party as
well.

"African Animals Getting Drunk From Ripe Marula Fruit"

..<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDJ-sTuoO8>

And the wet blanket folk:

..<https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-alcoholics-of-the-animal-world-81007700/#:~:text=Local%20lore%20says%20that%20elephants,fruit%20right%20off%20the%20tree.>

Joe Gwinn

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
>><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>>
>>>I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>>brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>>
>>>This
>>>
>>>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>>
>>>talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>>you can think.
>>
>>Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:
>>
>>'yes'.
>>
>>A very old trick.
>>
>>RL
>
>Read the book. You might learn something.

'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'

Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
does not interest me.

RL

fredag den 1. april 2022 kl. 00.34.48 UTC+2 skrev legg:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
> wrote:
> >On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
> >><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
> >>>
> >>>I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
> >>>brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
> >>>
> >>>This
> >>>
> >>>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
> >>>
> >>>talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
> >>>you can think.
> >>
> >>Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:
> >>
> >>'yes'.
> >>
> >>A very old trick.
> >>
> >>RL
> >
> >Read the book. You might learn something.
> 'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'
>
> Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
> does not interest me.

without food and drink you'd shortly have no brain activity at all so ..

Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> fredag den 1. april 2022 kl. 00.34.48 UTC+2 skrev legg:
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
>>>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>>>>
>>>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>>>>
>>>>> This
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>>>>
>>>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>>>> you can think.
>>>>
>>>> Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:
>>>>
>>>> 'yes'.
>>>>
>>>> A very old trick.
>>>>
>>>> RL
>>>
>>> Read the book. You might learn something.
>> 'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'
>>
>> Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
>> does not interest me.
>
> without food and drink you'd shortly have no brain activity at all so ..
>

Don't mind Rob, he just hasn't had his morning coffee in a few years. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

On 31/03/22 22:00, Joe Gwinn wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> .<https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace>
>>
>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>
>> This
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382>
>>
>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>> you can think.
>
> I have not read the book, but I do have one comment after scanning the
> TOC:
>
> There is a far simpler explanation for the fact that of all the
> alcohols, only ethyl alcohol can be consumed without immediate death:
> rotten fruit.
>
> Fruit that has fallen from trees and is just sitting there soon
> ferments. Critters that can consume such fruit without dying gain
> access to a fairly large food source. So it was pretty much
> inevitable that some critters would evolve the needed enzyme.
>
> This happened well before humans evolved, but they liked to party as
> well.
>
> "African Animals Getting Drunk From Ripe Marula Fruit"
>
> .<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDJ-sTuoO8>
>
>
> And the wet blanket folk:
>
> .<https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-alcoholics-of-the-animal-world-81007700/#:~:text=Local%20lore%20says%20that%20elephants,fruit%20right%20off%20the%20tree.>
>
>
> Joe Gwinn
>

I've seen blackbirds consume rowan/mountain ash/sorbus
berries to excess. Their wing movements when flying are,
um, distinctly uncoordinated.

The other uses of rowan are protection against witches, and
the rather delicious rowan and crab apple jelly tracklement
which is especially good with game.

Never noticed any intoxication myself, nor with nutmeg.

On 01/04/2022 01:10, Tom Gardner wrote:

<snip>

> Never noticed any intoxication myself, nor with nutmeg.

I used to nibble a whole nutmeg at school. Quite floaty. Also 'Victory
V' lozenges, which at the time contained chloroform and ether.

Never did me any washstand-paradiddle.

--
Cheers
Clive

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 19:54:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>> fredag den 1. april 2022 kl. 00.34.48 UTC+2 skrev legg:
>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
>>>>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>>>>>
>>>>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>>>>> you can think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'yes'.
>>>>>
>>>>> A very old trick.
>>>>>
>>>>> RL
>>>>
>>>> Read the book. You might learn something.
>>> 'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'
>>>
>>> Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
>>> does not interest me.
>>
>> without food and drink you'd shortly have no brain activity at all so ..
>>
>
>Don't mind Rob, he just hasn't had his morning coffee in a few years. ;)
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

I've eaten sardines on toast every Sunday morning for the last
15 years.

It doesn't work.

RL

On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Apr 2022 10:25:22 -0400) it happened legg
<legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote in <on2e4h9vvhv1idhcsp6lltevk6lqb5dju1@4ax.com>:

>On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 19:54:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs
><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>>Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>> fredag den 1. april 2022 kl. 00.34.48 UTC+2 skrev legg:
>>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
>>>>>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
>>>>>>> you can think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'yes'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A very old trick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RL
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the book. You might learn something.
>>>> 'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'
>>>>
>>>> Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
>>>> does not interest me.
>>>
>>> without food and drink you'd shortly have no brain activity at all so ..
>>>
>>
>>Don't mind Rob, he just hasn't had his morning coffee in a few years. ;)
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Phil Hobbs
>
>I've eaten sardines on toast every Sunday morning for the last
>15 years.
>
>It doesn't work.
>
>RL

Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
Cannibals beware!

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:

>On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
>> Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)
>
>Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
>Cannibals beware!

https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/

On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:
>
>> On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>
>>> Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)
>>
>> Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
>> Cannibals beware!
>
> https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/
>

I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia
wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".

Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each
country individually...

John ;-#)#

On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson
<spam@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_nZ2dnUU7-afNnZ2d@giganews.com>:

>
>On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:
>>
>>> On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>
>>>> Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)
>>>
>>> Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
>>> Cannibals beware!
>>
>> https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/
>>
>
>I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia
>wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".
>
>Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each
>country individually...
>
>John ;-#)#

So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers.
NATO are just commie haters.

US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to create wars and sell weapons
At the same time taxing its own population to death with an ever bigger military budget.
After Afghanistan they needed a new market, the puppet they have now installed as ukrainian president is actually a comedian...
A very very sad one these days, look what CIA has brought him and his people.