I am intrigued by the possible post 1904 development of the civilized world in
the hypothetical case that Lorentz, realizing how stupid and worthless was his
work, since 1892, trying to find a theory that could satisfy FitzGerald's proposal of length contraction in the order of squares of v/c, to justify MMX.

Suppose that he gave up on his relativity by 1903, and followed other topics in
optics or theories about electrodynamics.

I think that the following could have happened:

1) Hasenohrl's 1905 paper could have been widely accepted, and a
relationship E = 3/4 mc^2 would have been established.

2) Einstein would have been working as a clerk till retirement.

3) Minkowski's name would have had no impact at all in physics.

4) Hilbert and Poincaré would still be considered the top mathematicians
in the world, for the period 1890-1930.

5) The whole of chemistry, nuclear physics and quantum physics would still
have been developed, with ADJUSTMENTS for Hasenohrl´s E = 3/4 mc^2.

6) Nobody would have given a shit about starlight deflection by the Sun or
gravitational red-shifting.

7) Voigt's theory would be considered an historical curiosity, with its local
time and gamma factor. But Gerber's work on the speed of gravity to
explain Mercury's perihelion phenomenon would have been picked up,
eventually, and modified by some curious astronomer, in order to gain
acceptance.

8) Particle accelerators, linear or not, would have been developed. Theories
about inefficiency of electric fields to accelerate further charged particles
would have abounded, and one or two would have gained acceptance.

9) Cosmology would gravitate around Hubble's discoveries.

10) The MOST IMPORTANT THING: RELATIVISTS WOULDN'T EXIST.

As for the rest, maybe we could have A MORE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY
if thousands of bright minds had focused on REAL SCIENCE, instead of
wasting their entire life IN NONSENSE.

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 6:29:54 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> I am intrigued by the possible post 1904 development of the civilized world in
> the hypothetical case that Lorentz, realizing how stupid and worthless was his
> work, since 1892, trying to find a theory that could satisfy FitzGerald's proposal of length contraction in the order of squares of v/c, to justify MMX.
>
> Suppose that he gave up on his relativity by 1903, and followed other topics in
> optics or theories about electrodynamics.
>
> I think that the following could have happened:
>
> 1) Hasenohrl's 1905 paper could have been widely accepted, and a
> relationship E = 3/4 mc^2 would have been established.
>
> 2) Einstein would have been working as a clerk till retirement.
>
> 3) Minkowski's name would have had no impact at all in physics.
>
> 4) Hilbert and Poincaré would still be considered the top mathematicians
> in the world, for the period 1890-1930.
>
> 5) The whole of chemistry, nuclear physics and quantum physics would still
> have been developed, with ADJUSTMENTS for Hasenohrl´s E = 3/4 mc^2..
>
> 6) Nobody would have given a shit about starlight deflection by the Sun or
> gravitational red-shifting.
>
> 7) Voigt's theory would be considered an historical curiosity, with its local
> time and gamma factor. But Gerber's work on the speed of gravity to
> explain Mercury's perihelion phenomenon would have been picked up,
> eventually, and modified by some curious astronomer, in order to gain
> acceptance.
>
> 8) Particle accelerators, linear or not, would have been developed. Theories
> about inefficiency of electric fields to accelerate further charged particles
> would have abounded, and one or two would have gained acceptance.
>
> 9) Cosmology would gravitate around Hubble's discoveries.
>
> 10) The MOST IMPORTANT THING: RELATIVISTS WOULDN'T EXIST.
>
> As for the rest, maybe we could have A MORE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY
> if thousands of bright minds had focused on REAL SCIENCE, instead of
> wasting their entire life IN NONSENSE.

Imagine: Einstein would have no Lorentz theory to plagiarize.

No other fucking SOB would have dared to talk about time dilation with motion.

No Minkowski's spacetime.

Levi-Civita and Grossman would have been just mathematicians playing with mathematics.

Everything to gain and nothing to lose, for the civilized world.

In particular, discussions about GNSS systems like GPS wouldn't exist. This forum wouldn't exist either.

Dono would be retired from the graphic card business, and probably would be nesting on a forum for people with butthurt.

This thought social experiment is another proof that relativity is worthless, irrelevant.

Le 03/03/2023 à 01:29, Richard Hertz a écrit :

> No Minkowski's spacetime.
Yes, on that, I completely and powerfully agree.

Minkowski's space-time was one of the greatest errors in human thought.

R.H.

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 1:29:54 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> I am intrigued by the possible wet dream

Still having wet dreams, Dick? At your age?

- Eddington would have served prison for cowardice and homosexuality.
- No Schwarzschild, no Compton, no Friedmann, no Pound, no Kafele, no Wheeler, no Kerr, no Shapiro, no Hawking, no Susskind, no Guth,..
- No black holes, no gravitational waves, no curved and twisted spacetime, no gravitational lensing, no "time is what my clock shows",....

Actually, it's being increasingly difficult for me to find more "no shit/imbecile". And it is because relativity is worthless and has have
ZERO IMPACT on the development of the civilized world, except by jobs created in science, MSM and publishing houses (sterile jobs).

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:29:54 PM UTC+1, Richard Hertz wrote:
> I am intrigued by the possible post 1904 development of the civilized world in
> the hypothetical case that Lorentz, realizing how stupid and worthless was his
> work, since 1892, trying to find a theory that could satisfy FitzGerald's proposal of length contraction in the order of squares of v/c, to justify MMX.

Your never ending supply of idiocies is fascinating from a
psychiatric point of view.

> Suppose that he gave up on his relativity by 1903, and followed other topics in
> optics or theories about electrodynamics.
>
> I think that the following could have happened:
>
> 1) Hasenohrl's 1905 paper could have been widely accepted, and a
> relationship E = 3/4 mc^2 would have been established.

Oh dear.

> 2) Einstein would have been working as a clerk till retirement.

Stop fantasising. Einstein wrote two more paramount papers in 1905.

Just pick another hobby. This one makes your brain unravel.

--
Jan

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:46:39 AM UTC+1, Richard Hachel wrote:
> Le 03/03/2023 à 01:29, Richard Hertz a écrit :
>
> > No Minkowski's spacetime.
>
> Yes, on that, I completely and powerfully agree.
>
> Minkowski's space-time was one of the greatest errors in human thought.

Most physicists agree today that spacetime is an approximation. We talked
about it on this NG in the 1990s.

Everyone knows that relativity is a classical theory, hence not quite correct.
Everyone knows that quantum theory ignores gravity, hence is not quite correct.

Many amateurs here think those claims are revelations of some sort, and the
more entertaining ones think that physicists "suppress" such ideas.

--
Jan

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:15:56 AM UTC+1, Richard Hertz wrote:
> - Eddington would have served prison for cowardice and homosexuality.
> - No Schwarzschild, no Compton, no Friedmann, no Pound, no Kafele, no Wheeler, no Kerr, no Shapiro, no Hawking, no Susskind, no Guth,..
> - No black holes, no gravitational waves, no curved and twisted spacetime, no gravitational lensing, no "time is what my clock shows",....

No, it would have happened one way or the other. You just don't understand those
theories which is what allows you to spin fantasies without any reality checks.

> Actually, it's being increasingly difficult for me to find more "no shit/imbecile". And it is because relativity is worthless and has have
> ZERO IMPACT on the development of the civilized world, except by jobs created in science, MSM and publishing houses (sterile jobs).

No, this is all just your fantasy. It has nothing to do with real life.

--
Jan

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:01:04 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:15:56 AM UTC+1, Richard Hertz wrote:

<snip>

> > - No black holes, no gravitational waves, no curved and twisted spacetime, no gravitational lensing, no "time is what my clock shows",....
> No, it would have happened one way or the other. You just don't understand those
> theories which is what allows you to spin fantasies without any reality checks.

> > Actually, it's being increasingly difficult for me to find more "no shit/imbecile". And it is because relativity is worthless and has have
> > ZERO IMPACT on the development of the civilized world, except by jobs created in science, MSM and publishing houses (sterile jobs).

> No, this is all just your fantasy. It has nothing to do with real life.

No, bitter prune. It's not a fantasy but an exercise of imagination with a little bit of humor, both of which you lack.

Plus, this kind of "what if" exercises require a good amount of knowledge on history of SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY (you don't have
enough of it), a logical mind AND the ability to connect THREADS of historical developments.

But, as you are a resented and boring relativist, with no taste for life, you can't accept any change in the stupid model of
the world that you built in your fucking head, just to not panic, snowflake..

Remember that YOUR Einstein said that imagination is the most important ability for a scientist. You have almost zero of it.

As a test, just justify HOW the concept of spacetime would have been developed without Lorentz and, consequently, Poincaré.
Minkowski, who had a lot of respect for Poincaré, took his 1906 work and completed the mathematics in two years.

Tell me WHO and HOW could have had the IMAGINATION to go from ZERO to SPACETIME, without Einstein's plagiarism of Lorentz
and Poincaré.

Also, THINK about the effects of the RIPPLES OF THE FLOW OF TIME would have modified the current world, without Lorentz.

My position: NO VISIBLE EFFECT WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED ALONG THE MANY TIMELINES SINCE 1904, IN WHATEVER.

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:27:32 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:01:04 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:15:56 AM UTC+1, Richard Hertz wrote:
> <snip>
> > > - No black holes, no gravitational waves, no curved and twisted spacetime, no gravitational lensing, no "time is what my clock shows",....
> > No, it would have happened one way or the other. You just don't understand those
> > theories which is what allows you to spin fantasies without any reality checks.
>
> > > Actually, it's being increasingly difficult for me to find more "no shit/imbecile". And it is because relativity is worthless and has have
> > > ZERO IMPACT on the development of the civilized world, except by jobs created in science, MSM and publishing houses (sterile jobs).
>
> > No, this is all just your fantasy. It has nothing to do with real life.
>
> No, bitter prune. It's not a fantasy but an exercise of imagination with a little bit of humor, both of which you lack.

It's an exrecise in imagination, yes, but a low quality one, based on fantasies, not real life.

Good for Hollywood though, perhaps you should get in touch with an agent.

--
Jan

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:07:28 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:27:32 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:01:04 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:15:56 AM UTC+1, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > - No black holes, no gravitational waves, no curved and twisted spacetime, no gravitational lensing, no "time is what my clock shows",....
> > > No, it would have happened one way or the other. You just don't understand those
> > > theories which is what allows you to spin fantasies without any reality checks.
> >
> > > > Actually, it's being increasingly difficult for me to find more "no shit/imbecile". And it is because relativity is worthless and has have
> > > > ZERO IMPACT on the development of the civilized world, except by jobs created in science, MSM and publishing houses (sterile jobs).
> >
> > > No, this is all just your fantasy. It has nothing to do with real life.
> >
> > No, bitter prune. It's not a fantasy but an exercise of imagination with a little bit of humor, both of which you lack.
> It's an exrecise in imagination, yes, but a low quality one, based on fantasies, not real life.
>
> Good for Hollywood though, perhaps you should get in touch with an agent.
>
> --
> Jan

More important than the Hollywood thing is the fact that you wouldn't exist as a relativistic mathematician.
Best chance: High school math teacher.

On 3/2/2023 4:29 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> I am intrigued by the possible post 1904 development of the civilized world in
> the hypothetical case that Lorentz, realizing how stupid and worthless was his
> work, since 1892, trying to find a theory that could satisfy FitzGerald's proposal of length contraction in the order of squares of v/c, to justify MMX.
>
> Suppose that he gave up on his relativity by 1903, and followed other topics in
> optics or theories about electrodynamics.
>
> I think that the following could have happened:
....
> 2) Einstein would have been working as a clerk till retirement.

If Lorentz didn't pursue his work, nothing much would change. Einstein
still had the works of FitzGerald, Larmor, and Voigt. Even then, his
work was independent of theirs, as Einstein derived the Lorentz
transformation on the constant speed of light and the Principle of
Relativity only. One change however, the Lorentz transform would be
known by a different name. It would likely be known as the Einstein
transform! That would have tormented your mentally ill mind that much
more than it already does! 🤯

Einstein would still be famous among scientists without SR, as he'd
still receive a Nobel for the photoelectric effect, write his Brownian
motion paper and his E=mc^2 paper.

Without Lorentz or even Einstein, SR and later GR would still be
discovered. After all, the physics was still waiting discovery. Things
would have been delayed by as much as a decade, so certain sciences and
technology (like the GPS) may have been delayed somewhat.

> 3) Minkowski's name would have had no impact at all in physics.

I believe Minkowski died young. If the SR discovery was delayed, you'd
likely be correct.

> 4) Hilbert and Poincaré would still be considered the top mathematicians
> in the world, for the period 1890-1930.

It is quite unlikely that the SR discovery would be delayed until after
1930 (25 years) nor GR (15 years).

> 5) The whole of chemistry, nuclear physics and quantum physics would still
> have been developed, with ADJUSTMENTS for Hasenohrl´s E = 3/4 mc^2.

Without Lorentz, there is no reason why Einstein wouldn't have come up
with E=mc^2 in 1905.

I'd like to know where that 3/4 error came from.

> 6) Nobody would have given a shit about starlight deflection by the Sun or
> gravitational red-shifting.

They would; Einstein still could have come up with GR without Lorentz,
or if GR's discovery was delayed, there were still later eclipses and
someone would eventually propose such an experiment. If delayed, random
events like weather, wars or the lack thereof, would have messed with
the GR light bending discovery.

> 8) Particle accelerators, linear or not, would have been developed. Theories
> about inefficiency of electric fields to accelerate further charged particles
> would have abounded, and one or two would have gained acceptance.

They still would have encountered the cyclotron issues where electrons
couldn't be accelerated beyond a few MeV where something happened where
the accelerated electrons seemed heavier. But relativity and E=mc^2
would explain it, even if relativity was delayed.

On Friday, 3 March 2023 at 18:45:04 UTC+1, Volney wrote:
> On 3/2/2023 4:29 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > I am intrigued by the possible post 1904 development of the civilized world in
> > the hypothetical case that Lorentz, realizing how stupid and worthless was his
> > work, since 1892, trying to find a theory that could satisfy FitzGerald's proposal of length contraction in the order of squares of v/c, to justify MMX.
> >
> > Suppose that he gave up on his relativity by 1903, and followed other topics in
> > optics or theories about electrodynamics.
> >
> > I think that the following could have happened:
> ...
> > 2) Einstein would have been working as a clerk till retirement.
> If Lorentz didn't pursue his work, nothing much would change. Einstein

And do you still believe that adjusting
clocks to your ISO idiocy means "Newton
mode"? You're such an amazing idiot,
stupid Mike.

On 3/2/23 8:58 PM, JanPB wrote:
> Most physicists agree today that spacetime is an approximation.

Not really. Essentially all physicists today know that spacetime is a
model. How accurately that model ultimately reproduces the world is
unknown, but at present there are no experiments or observations that
imply spacetime is not an excellent model of spatial-temporal
relationships in the world we inhabit.

> Everyone knows that relativity is a classical theory, hence not
> quite correct. Everyone knows that quantum theory ignores gravity,
> hence is not quite correct.
>
> Many amateurs here think those claims are revelations of some sort,
> and the more entertaining ones think that physicists "suppress" such
> ideas.

Yes.

Tom Roberts

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:27:32 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> My position: NO VISIBLE EFFECT WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED ALONG THE MANY TIMELINES SINCE 1904, IN WHATEVER.

Your position is not even wrong (let alone false).

--
Jan

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 9:32:46 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:07:28 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:27:32 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:01:04 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:15:56 AM UTC+1, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > - No black holes, no gravitational waves, no curved and twisted spacetime, no gravitational lensing, no "time is what my clock shows",....
> > > > No, it would have happened one way or the other. You just don't understand those
> > > > theories which is what allows you to spin fantasies without any reality checks.
> > >
> > > > > Actually, it's being increasingly difficult for me to find more "no shit/imbecile". And it is because relativity is worthless and has have
> > > > > ZERO IMPACT on the development of the civilized world, except by jobs created in science, MSM and publishing houses (sterile jobs).
> > >
> > > > No, this is all just your fantasy. It has nothing to do with real life.
> > >
> > > No, bitter prune. It's not a fantasy but an exercise of imagination with a little bit of humor, both of which you lack.
> > It's an exrecise in imagination, yes, but a low quality one, based on fantasies, not real life.
> >
> > Good for Hollywood though, perhaps you should get in touch with an agent.
> >
> > --
> > Jan
> More important than the Hollywood thing is the fact that you wouldn't exist as a relativistic mathematician.
> Best chance: High school math teacher.

And forever the same childish trait: "I have no arguments, so I'm going
to fantasise about my opponents, pretending they are something that
I imagined to boost my ego a little."

I am not any "relativistic mathematician", whatever this means (no such thing
exists in the real world BTW), and I was never interested much in teaching
unless the audience is interested.

--
Jan

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:

<snip>

> And forever the same childish trait: "I have no arguments, so I'm going
> to fantasise about my opponents, pretending they are something that
> I imagined to boost my ego a little."
>
> I am not any "relativistic mathematician", whatever this means (no such thing
> exists in the real world BTW), and I was never interested much in teaching
> unless the audience is interested.

Old bitter prune, you don't even have any talent to reply like an educated person. Always at the defensive and boring.

And "relativists" is a term used as DEROGATORY for imbeciles like you since 1919, after Eddington/Einstein HOAX.

And I use it as A FUCKING INSULT, not a compliment. A synonym of IMBECILE.

And about you teaching, I'd pay to witness that, no matter the audience. I bet that you'd surpass Einstein's ineptitude.

On Friday, 3 March 2023 at 23:29:41 UTC+1, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 9:32:46 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:07:28 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:27:32 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:01:04 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:15:56 AM UTC+1, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > > - No black holes, no gravitational waves, no curved and twisted spacetime, no gravitational lensing, no "time is what my clock shows",....
> > > > > No, it would have happened one way or the other. You just don't understand those
> > > > > theories which is what allows you to spin fantasies without any reality checks.
> > > >
> > > > > > Actually, it's being increasingly difficult for me to find more "no shit/imbecile". And it is because relativity is worthless and has have
> > > > > > ZERO IMPACT on the development of the civilized world, except by jobs created in science, MSM and publishing houses (sterile jobs).
> > > >
> > > > > No, this is all just your fantasy. It has nothing to do with real life.
> > > >
> > > > No, bitter prune. It's not a fantasy but an exercise of imagination with a little bit of humor, both of which you lack.
> > > It's an exrecise in imagination, yes, but a low quality one, based on fantasies, not real life.
> > >
> > > Good for Hollywood though, perhaps you should get in touch with an agent.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jan
> > More important than the Hollywood thing is the fact that you wouldn't exist as a relativistic mathematician.
> > Best chance: High school math teacher.
> And forever the same childish trait: "I have no arguments, so I'm going
> to fantasise about my opponents, pretending they are something that
> I imagined to boost my ego a little."

Forever the same childish trait, but what to
expect from you.

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:09:27 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > And forever the same childish trait: "I have no arguments, so I'm going
> > to fantasise about my opponents, pretending they are something that
> > I imagined to boost my ego a little."
> >
> > I am not any "relativistic mathematician", whatever this means (no such thing
> > exists in the real world BTW), and I was never interested much in teaching
> > unless the audience is interested.
>
> Old bitter prune,

Why do you childishly keep inventing stuff about other people?

> you don't even have any talent to reply like an educated person. Always at the defensive and boring.

That's for me to decide. I was simply pointing out that you keep
referring to non-existing entities. Why you keep doing this is not
very clear, it seems to be an emotional trait of some kind.

> And "relativists" is a term used as DEROGATORY for imbeciles like you since 1919, after Eddington/Einstein HOAX.

It's not a valid term in the sense that it refers to a non-existing entity as
if it existed (the key point is that it's a term that's designed simply to
deceive and boost your ego).

> And I use it as A FUCKING INSULT, not a compliment. A synonym of IMBECILE..

I know, it tells me you have a complex of some kind. See, for example,
your use of the upper-case letters, you simply cannot help yourself.

Nothing you write here touches physics in any way, it's pure
off-topic ranting.

> And about you teaching, I'd pay to witness that, no matter the audience. I bet that you'd surpass Einstein's ineptitude.

You'll never find out :-)

But I still recommend you see a therapist, at least. A bona fide
doctor would be better. Your reactions are that of a normal adult.

--
Jan

JanPB wrote:

> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:09:27 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
>> > I am not any "relativistic mathematician", whatever this means (no
>> > such thing exists in the real world BTW), and I was never interested
>> > much in teaching unless the audience is interested.
>>
>> Old bitter prune,
>
> Why do you childishly keep inventing stuff about other people?

sure, just wait till you arrive Siberia, you stupid polak. You'll forget
reducing the populating of the Russian Federation, and destroy it in small
pieces. You stinking braindead nazi polak, will suck the dick of the
khazar caricature cocaine zelenske, together with all the electricians in
your corrupt nazi government. Meanwhile

'Yankee go home!' ｜ Massive anti-NATO rally in Slovakia
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/9of5aWI2R4Rv
Thousands of people march through Bratislava denouncing the 'perverse
plans of US and NATO' and calling for peace

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 9:32:46 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:07:28 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:27:32 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:01:04 AM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 3:15:56 AM UTC+1, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > - No black holes, no gravitational waves, no curved and twisted spacetime, no gravitational lensing, no "time is what my clock shows",....
> > > > No, it would have happened one way or the other. You just don't understand those
> > > > theories which is what allows you to spin fantasies without any reality checks.
> > >
> > > > > Actually, it's being increasingly difficult for me to find more "no shit/imbecile". And it is because relativity is worthless and has have
> > > > > ZERO IMPACT on the development of the civilized world, except by jobs created in science, MSM and publishing houses (sterile jobs).
> > >
> > > > No, this is all just your fantasy. It has nothing to do with real life.
> > >
> > > No, bitter prune. It's not a fantasy but an exercise of imagination with a little bit of humor, both of which you lack.
> > It's an exrecise in imagination, yes, but a low quality one, based on fantasies, not real life.
> >
> > Good for Hollywood though, perhaps you should get in touch with an agent.
> >
> > --
> > Jan
> More important than the Hollywood thing is the fact that you wouldn't exist as a relativistic mathematician.

You keep using weird phrases, like "relativistic mathematician" that do not
refer to anything in reality. There has been a number of similarly affected
posters to this NG over the years: they kept repeating the same nonsensical
phrases over and over again, as if hoping this would make them true.

> Best chance: High school math teacher.

And what does this even mean? What high school math teacher? Where
do you get those fantasies from? Is it how you deal with all obstacles
in life? By just wishing they were certain way? By invoking magic
incantations via CTRL-C/CTRL-V? And how well did that work?

--
Jan

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 8:57:09 AM UTC-8, Jedadiah Sultana wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
>
> > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:09:27 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> >> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
> >> > I am not any "relativistic mathematician", whatever this means (no
> >> > such thing exists in the real world BTW), and I was never interested
> >> > much in teaching unless the audience is interested.
> >>
> >> Old bitter prune,
> >
> > Why do you childishly keep inventing stuff about other people?
> sure, just wait till you arrive Siberia, you stupid polak.

Putin must be destroyed. Not necessarily physically, I mean his
power. And also The Hague is a perfectly acceptable solution.

> You'll forget
> reducing the populating of the Russian Federation, and destroy it in small
> pieces. You stinking braindead nazi polak, will suck the dick of the
> khazar caricature cocaine zelenske, together with all the electricians in
> your corrupt nazi government. Meanwhile

See a doctor. Something's the matter with your head. If you do not
live in the US, you can get an on-demand MRI of the head quite
cheap out of your pocket (about the equivalent of $200 give
or take). I'd consider it if I were you.

--
Jan

On 3/4/2023 1:39 PM, JanPB wrote:
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 8:57:09 AM UTC-8, Jedadiah Sultana wrote:
>> JanPB wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:09:27 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-3, JanPB wrote:
>>>>> I am not any "relativistic mathematician", whatever this means (no
>>>>> such thing exists in the real world BTW), and I was never interested
>>>>> much in teaching unless the audience is interested.
>>>>
>>>> Old bitter prune,
>>>
>>> Why do you childishly keep inventing stuff about other people?
>> sure, just wait till you arrive Siberia, you stupid polak.
>
> Putin must be destroyed. Not necessarily physically, I mean his
> power. And also The Hague is a perfectly acceptable solution.
>
>> You'll forget
>> reducing the populating of the Russian Federation, and destroy it in small
>> pieces. You stinking braindead nazi polak, will suck the dick of the
>> khazar caricature cocaine zelenske, together with all the electricians in
>> your corrupt nazi government. Meanwhile
>
> See a doctor. Something's the matter with your head. If you do not
> live in the US, you can get an on-demand MRI of the head quite
> cheap out of your pocket (about the equivalent of $200 give
> or take). I'd consider it if I were you.
>
> --
> Jan

That's almost universal for these sci newsgroups.

JanPB wrote:

> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 8:57:09 AM UTC-8, Jedadiah Sultana wrote:
>> JanPB wrote:
>> > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 6:09:27 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> >> Old bitter prune,
>> >
>> > Why do you childishly keep inventing stuff about other people?
>> sure, just wait till you arrive Siberia, you stupid polak.
>
> Putin must be destroyed. Not necessarily physically, I mean his power.
> And also The Hague is a perfectly acceptable solution.

hague?? you stinking polak, you and your government will end your stinking
lives there, for instigating, performing terrorism on infrastructure of
another state, here Germany and Russia. You stinking lying hypocrite.

the size of polakia will soon be zerooo, and if the traitor putin goes,
then in 24 hours you have no polakia and probably other stinking nazi
capitalist states. You removed the link, which proves you a son of a bitch
lying uneducated wanker. Here we go

'Yankee go home!' ｜ Massive anti-NATO rally in Slovakia
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NATO' and calling for peace

whodat wrote:

>> See a doctor. Something's the matter with your head. If you do not live
>> in the US, you can get an on-demand MRI of the head quite cheap out of
>> your pocket (about the equivalent of $200 give or take). I'd consider
>> it if I were you. -- Jan
>
> That's almost universal for these sci newsgroups.

you did see that doctor already?? you stinking sack of stinking shit.

'Yankee go home!' ｜ Massive anti-NATO rally in Slovakia
https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/9of5aWI2R4Rv Thousands of
people march through Bratislava denouncing the 'perverse plans of US and
NATO' and calling for peace