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 by: David Brooks - Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:32 UTC

On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:29:45 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <ugcEJ.447113$SVq5.273563@fx14.ams1>:
>
>> On 14/01/2022 04:45, LegionX wrote:
>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>> The author of Irok-10000, who calls himself Raid, also wrote the HLL
>>>> Toadie.7800 virus.
>>>
>>> Ayep. That's his too. We aren't disputing any of this David...
>>>
>>> Here's the tech details on Toadie
>>> <https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/toadie.shtml>
>>>
>>> Toadie is a relocating virus-worm. It is encrypted and non-memory
>>> resident. This virus was posted to several newsgroups as a cell
>>> phone cloning application on 15th of August 1999. The virus was
>>> in CELLCRK.ZIP file. When the CELLCRK.EXE program that was inside
>>> that ZIP is run it displays a rhyme and a copyright string of
>>> Symantec.
>>> TECHNICAL DETAILS
>>>
>>> When activated the virus searches for EXE files and infects them
>>> (50-100 at a time for Toadie.7800 version). This might cause a
>>> considerable decrease of perfomance on DOS-based and slow Windows
>>> systems. The delay after an infected file is run and before the
>>> original file code gets control can be up to 20 seconds if no
>>> disk cache program is installed.
>>>
>>> The virus infects DOS and Windows EXE files files the same way.
>>> The 7800 bytes (or other length depending on virus version) from
>>> original file beginning are relocated to the end of the file and
>>> encrypted by the virus. The virus writes 7800 bytes of its code
>>> which is a DOS program (with EXE header) itself to infected file
>>> beginning thus converting any Windows program to DOS format. When
>>> any infected DOS or Windows program is run, virus code gets
>>> control first, infects more EXE files on hard disk(s) and then
>>> passes control to the original file code.
>>>
>>> The virus has an ability to spread itself through IRC networks. On
>>> infected system the virus modifies settings of IRC client (mIRC)
>>> and creates TOADIE.EXE file. This file is sent [DCC] by an
>>> infected user to anyone who is joining any IRC channel the user
>>> is on at the moment. The virus also can replace unsent message
>>> contents in Outbound folder of Pegasus Mail. In this case the
>>> virus executable will be sent out instead of an original outgoing
>>> message.
>>>
>>> The 1.1 version of this virus contains several internal text
>>> strings and rhymes. They are output only once when the virus
>>> starts from a dropper (that is 1 byte longer than the virus
>>> body):
>>>
>>> There once was a bud named B.C. He grew on a 7 foot tree Till one
>>> day I plucked him Rolled him and smoked him And now I can barely
>>> see! dia
>>>
>>>
>>> Ladiesa nd gentlemen, I stand before you to stand behind you to
>>> tell you something I know nothing about. Thursday, which is Good
>>> Friday, we're having a Father's Day party for mother's only.
>>> Admission is free, pay at the door, pull out a chair and sit on
>>> the floor. Late one night in the middle of the day, two dead
>>> soldiers got up to fight. Back to back they faced each other,
>>> pulled out their swords and shot one another. A deaf policeman
>>> heard the noise, got up and shot the twice dead boys. If you
>>> don't believe me, ask the blind man who saw it all, through a
>>> knothole in a wooden brick wall. Question: If someone with
>>> multiple personalities tries to commit suicide, do the police
>>> consider it a hostage situation? One bong hit, Two bong hit,
>>> Three bong hit, Floor.
>>>
>>> The 7800 bytes long virus version is a very fast infector. Within
>>> several minutes all EXE files will be infected. From 3:00pm to
>>> 5:00pm the virus 'sleeps' - doesn't replicate. Infected files do
>>> not work after 9:00pm.
>>>
>>> The virus also displays a copyright message if current minutes are
>>> equal to
>>> 17.
>>>
>>> Yes David you've *destroyed* snits description of Gremlin by
>>> sharing what you did for the purposes of attacking him over code
>>> that was written years before he ever heard of you. This reply
>>> containing details of his Toadie virus haven't helped snit
>>> either. You're welcome. Asshat.
>>
>>
>> You write as if you are PROUD of the harm that was done.
>>
>> Nil Point (said with a French accent)
>
> Any evidence Gremlin actually wrote these, or if he did have a hand in them
> did so alone? Those who really do such work might use someone who wants to
> brag to be able to pin it on them.

As I've said elsewhere, I am 100% sure that Dustin J. Cook wrote and
published his viruses without outside help. He was a complete loner back
then.

HTH

Ask Graham Cluley or Pooh.

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On Jan 14, 2022 at 12:32:00 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
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> On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:29:45 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <ugcEJ.447113$SVq5.273563@fx14.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/01/2022 04:45, LegionX wrote:
>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>>
>>>>> The author of Irok-10000, who calls himself Raid, also wrote the HLL
>>>>> Toadie.7800 virus.
>>>>
>>>> Ayep. That's his too. We aren't disputing any of this David...
>>>>
>>>> Here's the tech details on Toadie
>>>> <https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/toadie.shtml>
>>>>
>>>> Toadie is a relocating virus-worm. It is encrypted and non-memory
>>>> resident. This virus was posted to several newsgroups as a cell
>>>> phone cloning application on 15th of August 1999. The virus was
>>>> in CELLCRK.ZIP file. When the CELLCRK.EXE program that was inside
>>>> that ZIP is run it displays a rhyme and a copyright string of
>>>> Symantec.
>>>> TECHNICAL DETAILS
>>>>
>>>> When activated the virus searches for EXE files and infects them
>>>> (50-100 at a time for Toadie.7800 version). This might cause a
>>>> considerable decrease of perfomance on DOS-based and slow Windows
>>>> systems. The delay after an infected file is run and before the
>>>> original file code gets control can be up to 20 seconds if no
>>>> disk cache program is installed.
>>>>
>>>> The virus infects DOS and Windows EXE files files the same way.
>>>> The 7800 bytes (or other length depending on virus version) from
>>>> original file beginning are relocated to the end of the file and
>>>> encrypted by the virus. The virus writes 7800 bytes of its code
>>>> which is a DOS program (with EXE header) itself to infected file
>>>> beginning thus converting any Windows program to DOS format. When
>>>> any infected DOS or Windows program is run, virus code gets
>>>> control first, infects more EXE files on hard disk(s) and then
>>>> passes control to the original file code.
>>>>
>>>> The virus has an ability to spread itself through IRC networks. On
>>>> infected system the virus modifies settings of IRC client (mIRC)
>>>> and creates TOADIE.EXE file. This file is sent [DCC] by an
>>>> infected user to anyone who is joining any IRC channel the user
>>>> is on at the moment. The virus also can replace unsent message
>>>> contents in Outbound folder of Pegasus Mail. In this case the
>>>> virus executable will be sent out instead of an original outgoing
>>>> message.
>>>>
>>>> The 1.1 version of this virus contains several internal text
>>>> strings and rhymes. They are output only once when the virus
>>>> starts from a dropper (that is 1 byte longer than the virus
>>>> body):
>>>>
>>>> There once was a bud named B.C. He grew on a 7 foot tree Till one
>>>> day I plucked him Rolled him and smoked him And now I can barely
>>>> see! dia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ladiesa nd gentlemen, I stand before you to stand behind you to
>>>> tell you something I know nothing about. Thursday, which is Good
>>>> Friday, we're having a Father's Day party for mother's only.
>>>> Admission is free, pay at the door, pull out a chair and sit on
>>>> the floor. Late one night in the middle of the day, two dead
>>>> soldiers got up to fight. Back to back they faced each other,
>>>> pulled out their swords and shot one another. A deaf policeman
>>>> heard the noise, got up and shot the twice dead boys. If you
>>>> don't believe me, ask the blind man who saw it all, through a
>>>> knothole in a wooden brick wall. Question: If someone with
>>>> multiple personalities tries to commit suicide, do the police
>>>> consider it a hostage situation? One bong hit, Two bong hit,
>>>> Three bong hit, Floor.
>>>>
>>>> The 7800 bytes long virus version is a very fast infector. Within
>>>> several minutes all EXE files will be infected. From 3:00pm to
>>>> 5:00pm the virus 'sleeps' - doesn't replicate. Infected files do
>>>> not work after 9:00pm.
>>>>
>>>> The virus also displays a copyright message if current minutes are
>>>> equal to
>>>> 17.
>>>>
>>>> Yes David you've *destroyed* snits description of Gremlin by
>>>> sharing what you did for the purposes of attacking him over code
>>>> that was written years before he ever heard of you. This reply
>>>> containing details of his Toadie virus haven't helped snit
>>>> either. You're welcome. Asshat.
>>>
>>>
>>> You write as if you are PROUD of the harm that was done.
>>>
>>> Nil Point (said with a French accent)
>>
>> Any evidence Gremlin actually wrote these, or if he did have a hand in them
>> did so alone? Those who really do such work might use someone who wants to
>> brag to be able to pin it on them.
>
> As I've said elsewhere, I am 100% sure that Dustin J. Cook wrote and
> published his viruses without outside help. He was a complete loner back
> then.

Seems likely that is the type person a real virus writer would work to help
hide their work. Find someone with a desire to be a "big shot" and take credit
as they ride off into the sunset. Seems Gremlin did not get in much trouble
with the law, but he could have.

>
> HTH
>
> Ask Graham Cluley or Pooh.

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On Jan 14, 2022 at 12:29:10 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
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> On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:24:39 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <HbcEJ.447112$SVq5.108474@fx14.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/01/2022 01:28, Snit wrote:
>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/01/2022 04:39, LegionX wrote:
>>>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>> On 04/01/2022 19:37, Joe Makowiec wrote:> On 02 Jan 2022 in
>>>>>>> rec.photo.digital, Savageduck wrote:> >> Here is how the pano is
>>>>>>> captured with what you would see on the RC LCD:> > Interesting. Thanks.
>>>>>>> It's amazing how far computer technology has come in> just a few years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Savageduck has learned a lot too! :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He learned what you're about and voiced his revised opinion of
>>>>>> you. Which wasn't a good review. Do you remember?
>>>>>
>>>>> I well remember that he didn't seem to care that I'd exposed Dustin Cook
>>>>> as a criminal who has gone unpunished.
>>>>
>>>> That’s assuming he really did write and release a virus that caused harm.
>>>> Has he ever actually posted proof that he was the one who caused so much
>>>> harm?
>>>
>>> I am 100% certain that Dustin J. Cook wrote viruses!
>>>
>>> Ask Graham Cluley if you have any doubt at all.
>>>
>>> https://grahamcluley.com
>>>
>>> Graham used to be the main security man at Sophos
>>> https://www.sophos.com/en-us.aspx
>>
>> I think he was involved with those who did... but I see nothing from him that
>> suggests he is particularly skillful.
>
> Ask p-0''0-h the cat (coder) <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> about
> the time when Dusty 'schooled' him in the acf (freeware) group.
>
> It was quite exciting at the time!

Have Message IDs?

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 by: David Brooks - Fri, 14 Jan 2022 22:52 UTC

On 14/01/2022 20:30, Snit wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2022 at 12:29:10 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <aakEJ.134360$%Gk6.60730@fx10.ams1>:
>
>> On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
>>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:24:39 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <HbcEJ.447112$SVq5.108474@fx14.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 14/01/2022 01:28, Snit wrote:
>>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/01/2022 04:39, LegionX wrote:
>>>>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>>> On 04/01/2022 19:37, Joe Makowiec wrote:> On 02 Jan 2022 in
>>>>>>>> rec.photo.digital, Savageduck wrote:> >> Here is how the pano is
>>>>>>>> captured with what you would see on the RC LCD:> > Interesting. Thanks.
>>>>>>>> It's amazing how far computer technology has come in> just a few years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Savageduck has learned a lot too! :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He learned what you're about and voiced his revised opinion of
>>>>>>> you. Which wasn't a good review. Do you remember?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I well remember that he didn't seem to care that I'd exposed Dustin Cook
>>>>>> as a criminal who has gone unpunished.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s assuming he really did write and release a virus that caused harm.
>>>>> Has he ever actually posted proof that he was the one who caused so much
>>>>> harm?
>>>>
>>>> I am 100% certain that Dustin J. Cook wrote viruses!
>>>>
>>>> Ask Graham Cluley if you have any doubt at all.
>>>>
>>>> https://grahamcluley.com
>>>>
>>>> Graham used to be the main security man at Sophos
>>>> https://www.sophos.com/en-us.aspx
>>>
>>> I think he was involved with those who did... but I see nothing from him that
>>> suggests he is particularly skillful.
>>
>> Ask p-0''0-h the cat (coder) <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> about
>> the time when Dusty 'schooled' him in the acf (freeware) group.
>>
>> It was quite exciting at the time!
>
> Have Message IDs?

No, not off-hand - but Pooh will remember!

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 by: Savageduck - Fri, 14 Jan 2022 22:52 UTC

On Jan 14, 2022, LegionX wrote
(in article <srsfav$7dq$1@dont-email.me>):

>
> Are you so drunk that you're comparing new threads in different
> newsgroups to your xposting hijacking of this thread? That's what
> it looks like you're doing here.

This out of control hijacking of a thread is but one of the reasons I have all iterations of David Brooks effectively kill-filed. I choose not to go down any of the “Boater Dave” rabbit holes as that results in wallowing in that swamp of confusion, and absolute pollution of any cross threaded NewsGroup. My UseNet life is simpler without David Brooks involved.

Please stop posting this crap to rec.photo.digital. on an obviously hijacked thread, and X-posting where it can only accumulate flame warriors.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

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 by: David Brooks - Fri, 14 Jan 2022 22:56 UTC

On 14/01/2022 20:30, Snit wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2022 at 12:32:00 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <QckEJ.134361$%Gk6.8512@fx10.ams1>:
>
>> On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
>>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:29:45 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <ugcEJ.447113$SVq5.273563@fx14.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 14/01/2022 04:45, LegionX wrote:
>>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The author of Irok-10000, who calls himself Raid, also wrote the HLL
>>>>>> Toadie.7800 virus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayep. That's his too. We aren't disputing any of this David...
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the tech details on Toadie
>>>>> <https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/toadie.shtml>
>>>>>
>>>>> Toadie is a relocating virus-worm. It is encrypted and non-memory
>>>>> resident. This virus was posted to several newsgroups as a cell
>>>>> phone cloning application on 15th of August 1999. The virus was
>>>>> in CELLCRK.ZIP file. When the CELLCRK.EXE program that was inside
>>>>> that ZIP is run it displays a rhyme and a copyright string of
>>>>> Symantec.
>>>>> TECHNICAL DETAILS
>>>>>
>>>>> When activated the virus searches for EXE files and infects them
>>>>> (50-100 at a time for Toadie.7800 version). This might cause a
>>>>> considerable decrease of perfomance on DOS-based and slow Windows
>>>>> systems. The delay after an infected file is run and before the
>>>>> original file code gets control can be up to 20 seconds if no
>>>>> disk cache program is installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The virus infects DOS and Windows EXE files files the same way.
>>>>> The 7800 bytes (or other length depending on virus version) from
>>>>> original file beginning are relocated to the end of the file and
>>>>> encrypted by the virus. The virus writes 7800 bytes of its code
>>>>> which is a DOS program (with EXE header) itself to infected file
>>>>> beginning thus converting any Windows program to DOS format. When
>>>>> any infected DOS or Windows program is run, virus code gets
>>>>> control first, infects more EXE files on hard disk(s) and then
>>>>> passes control to the original file code.
>>>>>
>>>>> The virus has an ability to spread itself through IRC networks. On
>>>>> infected system the virus modifies settings of IRC client (mIRC)
>>>>> and creates TOADIE.EXE file. This file is sent [DCC] by an
>>>>> infected user to anyone who is joining any IRC channel the user
>>>>> is on at the moment. The virus also can replace unsent message
>>>>> contents in Outbound folder of Pegasus Mail. In this case the
>>>>> virus executable will be sent out instead of an original outgoing
>>>>> message.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 1.1 version of this virus contains several internal text
>>>>> strings and rhymes. They are output only once when the virus
>>>>> starts from a dropper (that is 1 byte longer than the virus
>>>>> body):
>>>>>
>>>>> There once was a bud named B.C. He grew on a 7 foot tree Till one
>>>>> day I plucked him Rolled him and smoked him And now I can barely
>>>>> see! dia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ladiesa nd gentlemen, I stand before you to stand behind you to
>>>>> tell you something I know nothing about. Thursday, which is Good
>>>>> Friday, we're having a Father's Day party for mother's only.
>>>>> Admission is free, pay at the door, pull out a chair and sit on
>>>>> the floor. Late one night in the middle of the day, two dead
>>>>> soldiers got up to fight. Back to back they faced each other,
>>>>> pulled out their swords and shot one another. A deaf policeman
>>>>> heard the noise, got up and shot the twice dead boys. If you
>>>>> don't believe me, ask the blind man who saw it all, through a
>>>>> knothole in a wooden brick wall. Question: If someone with
>>>>> multiple personalities tries to commit suicide, do the police
>>>>> consider it a hostage situation? One bong hit, Two bong hit,
>>>>> Three bong hit, Floor.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 7800 bytes long virus version is a very fast infector. Within
>>>>> several minutes all EXE files will be infected. From 3:00pm to
>>>>> 5:00pm the virus 'sleeps' - doesn't replicate. Infected files do
>>>>> not work after 9:00pm.
>>>>>
>>>>> The virus also displays a copyright message if current minutes are
>>>>> equal to
>>>>> 17.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes David you've *destroyed* snits description of Gremlin by
>>>>> sharing what you did for the purposes of attacking him over code
>>>>> that was written years before he ever heard of you. This reply
>>>>> containing details of his Toadie virus haven't helped snit
>>>>> either. You're welcome. Asshat.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You write as if you are PROUD of the harm that was done.
>>>>
>>>> Nil Point (said with a French accent)
>>>
>>> Any evidence Gremlin actually wrote these, or if he did have a hand in them
>>> did so alone? Those who really do such work might use someone who wants to
>>> brag to be able to pin it on them.
>>
>> As I've said elsewhere, I am 100% sure that Dustin J. Cook wrote and
>> published his viruses without outside help. He was a complete loner back
>> then.
>
> Seems likely that is the type person a real virus writer would work to help
> hide their work. Find someone with a desire to be a "big shot" and take credit
> as they ride off into the sunset. Seems Gremlin did not get in much trouble
> with the law, but he could have.
>

It is because the law didn't catch him that I came to Usenet to bring
him to his senses!

>> HTH
>>
>> Ask Graham Cluley or Pooh.

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 by: David Brooks - Fri, 14 Jan 2022 23:39 UTC

On 14/01/2022 22:52, Savageduck wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2022, LegionX wrote
> (in article <srsfav$7dq$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>>
>> Are you so drunk that you're comparing new threads in different
>> newsgroups to your xposting hijacking of this thread? That's what
>> it looks like you're doing here.
>
> This out of control hijacking of a thread is but one of the reasons I have all iterations of David Brooks effectively kill-filed. I choose not to go down any of the “Boater Dave” rabbit holes as that results in wallowing in that swamp of confusion, and absolute pollution of any cross threaded NewsGroup. My UseNet life is simpler without David Brooks involved.
>
> Please stop posting this crap to rec.photo.digital. on an obviously hijacked thread, and X-posting where it can only accumulate flame warriors.

Someone please notify Savageduck that he is responding to a sock of
Dustin. J. Cook, a retired virus writer.

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 by: LegionX - Fri, 14 Jan 2022 23:59 UTC

David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:

>Someone please notify Savageduck that he is responding to a sock of Dustin. J. Cook, a retired virus writer.

You've made the same completely unsupported accusation as snit
began doing after we busted him doing what he and you accused us
of.

We give you the same invite to show proof to support your
accusation as we have snit. Are you going to disappoint as he
has?

--
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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitlies>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
<https://tinyurl.com/StalkerDavid>

Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

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 by: LegionX - Sat, 15 Jan 2022 00:03 UTC

David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:

>It is because the law didn't catch him that I came to Usenet to bring him to his senses!

So you thought trying to dox him on usenet would do that? And why
did you come to usenet only after he repeatedly told you to pound
sand about your requests that he break into gear you didn't own?
Do tell us how that is logical in your mind.

Side note - it's great how in the process of attacking a person
who hasn't posted to usenet in seven months that you're also
showing snit is a total fucking idiot even trying to describe
Gremlin as he did.

It's nice to read snits weaseling. Lol!

--
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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
<https://tinyurl.com/StalkerDavid>

Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

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 by: LegionX - Sat, 15 Jan 2022 01:51 UTC

David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:

>No, not off-hand - but Pooh will remember!

FromTheRafters and Shadow would as well. Possibly Apd. Infact
FromTheRafters was the one who showed you what pooh was trying to
do. Yes pooh got schooled in coding. No question. Say did you
appreciate Gremlin doing his own exe header and prepending it to
the .com? We're on the fence with whether or not he was showing
off by then. It was already painfully obvious that the great and
powerful pooh challenged the wrong coder to a who can make the
smallest byte version of the program while keeping full
functionality. That's the real test. Can you make it smaller but
not lose functionality. This is what a coder can do that a
programmer might not.

Pooh broke his copy and crippled it. He even resorted to trying to
cheat by compiling as a .com and renaming it as an
.exe

Gremlin didn't even try to cheat - he didn't need to because he
understands code and low level hardware interaction better than
pooh. And that's a fact jack.

He bypassed the compiler completely and went for a much more
streamlined header that had no trouble passing control properly
to the rest of his program. David he literally converted a
..com into an .exe - shaving off over five hundred additional
bytes. That pooh couldn't compensate for. :)

When all was said and done pooh got a well deserved spanking in
low level coding techniques. Gremlins version was nearly a full
kilobyte smaller in size and could run on 5k of ram. Poohs
renamed trick got him a smaller file (not anywhere near small
enough to beat Gremlin tho) but increased memory needs to
64k.

And due to code pooh removed outright to reduce filesize his
version couldn't be repeatedly called as a subroutine or from
other apps because it would soon exhaust available file handles -
pooh removed the code that released them trying to beat Gremlin.
And he still lost. By a wide margin.

Yes David continue bringing up Gremlins past in this way. You're
fucking snits description of Gremlin up quite nicely as he'd
say!

Now unless Steve Carroll is going to tell us he knows what IDA PRO
is and how to use it there's simply no comparison between them
concerning who's more knowledgeable about code.

We mean no offense to either of them - but - at the end of the
day; Gremlin actually is a coder. Steve Carroll is an advanced
scripter. But he's not a programmer from what we've seen and damn
sure isn't a low level coder like Gremlin.

We already know snit is totally lost. And we know he's trying to
cause issues between Gremlin and Carroll by attempting to portray
Gremlin has having inferior tech skill and knowledge. We don't
think for a nanosecond that Steve Carroll would claim he's more
technical skillset equipped than Gremlin.

As we wrote, we see this as nothing more than a childish attempt
by snit to cause strife. He hates how Gremlin and Steve Carroll
get along. He can't participate in the majority of their
technical nature discussions and he can't convince either of them
to fight amongst themselves for him.

David - snit couldn't even help you with that laptop. But - heh -
Gremlin did.

He gave you solid advice that got you up and going on your
original hardware on the intended os. Did you not notice his
skill on display? He diagnosed your issues and got you going
using nothing more than the pic you provided.

We didn't see snit offer you any suggestions. And what Mike Easter
told you wasn't right either. And whoever told you that your
laptop couldn't do wifi because it was too old was wrong too
David. Three people we know of offered you nothing useful and did
nothing for you and your laptop. The fourth person we know of -
Gremlin - did what they couldn't do. And the two of you aren't
even friends.

Yet you still want to pretend snit isn't writing bullshit about
Gremlin?

Uhh unless Carroll is going to tell us he does more than web based
script there's nothing to even compare between them. Gremlin can
script too. He hates it. It's not coding to him.
If you doubt our claims David? ask FromTheRafters and Apd about
him. They've both known him for a very very long time and they
weren't always on friendly terms. We are confident they'd back
what we have written - because we do not lie!

--
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitlies>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
<https://tinyurl.com/StalkerDavid>

Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

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 by: LegionX - Sat, 15 Jan 2022 01:56 UTC

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> Wrote in message:

>Please stop posting this crap to rec.photo.digital. on an obviously hijacked thread, and X-posting where it can only accumulate flame warriors.

We apologize in advance for our xposted replies. This client is
horrible in that none of us has been able to change the
newsgroups line.
We have reached out to the author and are hopefully getting a fix.
Soon.

We are responding for the purpose of defending our friend who went
out of state for a large electrical job and hasn't been here to
defend himself from the lies David Brooks and his best friend
snit have been writing about him in his absense. Gremlin has been
away from usenet for over six months now. David has been trying
to take advantage by writing the bs he does.

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<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitlies>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
<https://tinyurl.com/StalkerDavid>

Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

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On Jan 14, 2022 at 12:32:00 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<QckEJ.134361$%Gk6.8512@fx10.ams1>:

> On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:29:45 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <ugcEJ.447113$SVq5.273563@fx14.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/01/2022 04:45, LegionX wrote:
>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>>
>>>>> The author of Irok-10000, who calls himself Raid, also wrote the HLL
>>>>> Toadie.7800 virus.
>>>>
>>>> Ayep. That's his too. We aren't disputing any of this David...
>>>>
>>>> Here's the tech details on Toadie
>>>> <https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/toadie.shtml>
>>>>
>>>> Toadie is a relocating virus-worm. It is encrypted and non-memory
>>>> resident. This virus was posted to several newsgroups as a cell
>>>> phone cloning application on 15th of August 1999. The virus was
>>>> in CELLCRK.ZIP file. When the CELLCRK.EXE program that was inside
>>>> that ZIP is run it displays a rhyme and a copyright string of
>>>> Symantec.
>>>> TECHNICAL DETAILS
>>>>
>>>> When activated the virus searches for EXE files and infects them
>>>> (50-100 at a time for Toadie.7800 version). This might cause a
>>>> considerable decrease of perfomance on DOS-based and slow Windows
>>>> systems. The delay after an infected file is run and before the
>>>> original file code gets control can be up to 20 seconds if no
>>>> disk cache program is installed.
>>>>
>>>> The virus infects DOS and Windows EXE files files the same way.
>>>> The 7800 bytes (or other length depending on virus version) from
>>>> original file beginning are relocated to the end of the file and
>>>> encrypted by the virus. The virus writes 7800 bytes of its code
>>>> which is a DOS program (with EXE header) itself to infected file
>>>> beginning thus converting any Windows program to DOS format. When
>>>> any infected DOS or Windows program is run, virus code gets
>>>> control first, infects more EXE files on hard disk(s) and then
>>>> passes control to the original file code.
>>>>
>>>> The virus has an ability to spread itself through IRC networks. On
>>>> infected system the virus modifies settings of IRC client (mIRC)
>>>> and creates TOADIE.EXE file. This file is sent [DCC] by an
>>>> infected user to anyone who is joining any IRC channel the user
>>>> is on at the moment. The virus also can replace unsent message
>>>> contents in Outbound folder of Pegasus Mail. In this case the
>>>> virus executable will be sent out instead of an original outgoing
>>>> message.
>>>>
>>>> The 1.1 version of this virus contains several internal text
>>>> strings and rhymes. They are output only once when the virus
>>>> starts from a dropper (that is 1 byte longer than the virus
>>>> body):
>>>>
>>>> There once was a bud named B.C. He grew on a 7 foot tree Till one
>>>> day I plucked him Rolled him and smoked him And now I can barely
>>>> see! dia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ladiesa nd gentlemen, I stand before you to stand behind you to
>>>> tell you something I know nothing about. Thursday, which is Good
>>>> Friday, we're having a Father's Day party for mother's only.
>>>> Admission is free, pay at the door, pull out a chair and sit on
>>>> the floor. Late one night in the middle of the day, two dead
>>>> soldiers got up to fight. Back to back they faced each other,
>>>> pulled out their swords and shot one another. A deaf policeman
>>>> heard the noise, got up and shot the twice dead boys. If you
>>>> don't believe me, ask the blind man who saw it all, through a
>>>> knothole in a wooden brick wall. Question: If someone with
>>>> multiple personalities tries to commit suicide, do the police
>>>> consider it a hostage situation? One bong hit, Two bong hit,
>>>> Three bong hit, Floor.
>>>>
>>>> The 7800 bytes long virus version is a very fast infector. Within
>>>> several minutes all EXE files will be infected. From 3:00pm to
>>>> 5:00pm the virus 'sleeps' - doesn't replicate. Infected files do
>>>> not work after 9:00pm.
>>>>
>>>> The virus also displays a copyright message if current minutes are
>>>> equal to
>>>> 17.
>>>>
>>>> Yes David you've *destroyed* snits description of Gremlin by
>>>> sharing what you did for the purposes of attacking him over code
>>>> that was written years before he ever heard of you. This reply
>>>> containing details of his Toadie virus haven't helped snit
>>>> either. You're welcome. Asshat.
>>>
>>>
>>> You write as if you are PROUD of the harm that was done.
>>>
>>> Nil Point (said with a French accent)
>>
>> Any evidence Gremlin actually wrote these, or if he did have a hand in them
>> did so alone? Those who really do such work might use someone who wants to
>> brag to be able to pin it on them.
>
> As I've said elsewhere, I am 100% sure that Dustin J. Cook wrote and
> published his viruses without outside help. He was a complete loner back
> then.
>
> HTH
>
> Ask Graham Cluley or Pooh.

I think he likely was tied to them... but from what he has shown in this group
I see no real skills with coding. Carroll blows him away. Heck, I am a shitty
scripter and we each have done things the other has failed to be able to do,
or at least easily do.

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:52:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
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> On 14/01/2022 20:30, Snit wrote:
>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 12:29:10 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <aakEJ.134360$%Gk6.60730@fx10.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:24:39 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <HbcEJ.447112$SVq5.108474@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/01/2022 01:28, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 13/01/2022 04:39, LegionX wrote:
>>>>>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>>>> On 04/01/2022 19:37, Joe Makowiec wrote:> On 02 Jan 2022 in
>>>>>>>>> rec.photo.digital, Savageduck wrote:> >> Here is how the pano is
>>>>>>>>> captured with what you would see on the RC LCD:> > Interesting. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> It's amazing how far computer technology has come in> just a few years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Savageduck has learned a lot too! :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He learned what you're about and voiced his revised opinion of
>>>>>>>> you. Which wasn't a good review. Do you remember?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I well remember that he didn't seem to care that I'd exposed Dustin Cook
>>>>>>> as a criminal who has gone unpunished.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s assuming he really did write and release a virus that caused harm.
>>>>>> Has he ever actually posted proof that he was the one who caused so much
>>>>>> harm?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am 100% certain that Dustin J. Cook wrote viruses!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask Graham Cluley if you have any doubt at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://grahamcluley.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham used to be the main security man at Sophos
>>>>> https://www.sophos.com/en-us.aspx
>>>>
>>>> I think he was involved with those who did... but I see nothing from him that
>>>> suggests he is particularly skillful.
>>>
>>> Ask p-0''0-h the cat (coder) <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> about
>>> the time when Dusty 'schooled' him in the acf (freeware) group.
>>>
>>> It was quite exciting at the time!
>>
>> Have Message IDs?
>
> No, not off-hand - but Pooh will remember!

OK.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

>Seems likely that is the type person a real virus writer would work to help hide their work.

Stop writing from your ass. You know nothing about VX. Gremlin is
a real - now retired virus writer. And sorry but your bots are
nowhere near as complex as any of the viruses he wrote
are.

And for damn sure you haven't got shit on his BugHunter program.
It's more complex than your script bots are as well. The source
code he showed you to his bot is already more advanced - its a
self contained exe that doesnt rely on a script language or web
browser to function on irc. Gremlins bot chats directly with the
tcp/ip stack. While its a native win32 PE executable it also runs
fine on most Linux distros using wine.

And like his viruses, BugHunter, AZ, the wallgreeter david asked
for your help with - that you never provided - Gremlin writes
actual code. Actual programs. Not simple scripts - but he can do
that too.

And now that more of Gremlins history has been disclosed - you've
got an even bigger problem to deal with - you created a bogus
label to describe him and your story is falling apart. And David
is providing all kinds of proof - in an effort to badmouth
Gremlin - that what you wrote about Gremlin was always bullshit.
Some friend eh?

>Seems Gremlin did not get in much trouble with the law, but he could have.

Gremlin didn't get in any trouble with the law for anything to do
with computers. Writing a computer virus is not illegal.
Providing a copy on a pro virus website isn't illegal. Virus code
is just as protected by our laws as any other program. Full
stop.

Fact is - you created a false description of Gremlin. And David
Brooks is confirming that your description of Gremlin is and
always was bullshit.

Dig that hole snit. We intend to bury you in it.

--
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitlies>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
<https://tinyurl.com/StalkerDavid>

Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

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 by: Snit - Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:12 UTC

On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:56:56 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<YcnEJ.19849$0Kl7.15483@fx11.ams1>:

> On 14/01/2022 20:30, Snit wrote:
>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 12:32:00 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <QckEJ.134361$%Gk6.8512@fx10.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:29:45 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <ugcEJ.447113$SVq5.273563@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/01/2022 04:45, LegionX wrote:
>>>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The author of Irok-10000, who calls himself Raid, also wrote the HLL
>>>>>>> Toadie.7800 virus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ayep. That's his too. We aren't disputing any of this David...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the tech details on Toadie
>>>>>> <https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/toadie.shtml>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toadie is a relocating virus-worm. It is encrypted and non-memory
>>>>>> resident. This virus was posted to several newsgroups as a cell
>>>>>> phone cloning application on 15th of August 1999. The virus was
>>>>>> in CELLCRK.ZIP file. When the CELLCRK.EXE program that was inside
>>>>>> that ZIP is run it displays a rhyme and a copyright string of
>>>>>> Symantec.
>>>>>> TECHNICAL DETAILS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When activated the virus searches for EXE files and infects them
>>>>>> (50-100 at a time for Toadie.7800 version). This might cause a
>>>>>> considerable decrease of perfomance on DOS-based and slow Windows
>>>>>> systems. The delay after an infected file is run and before the
>>>>>> original file code gets control can be up to 20 seconds if no
>>>>>> disk cache program is installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The virus infects DOS and Windows EXE files files the same way.
>>>>>> The 7800 bytes (or other length depending on virus version) from
>>>>>> original file beginning are relocated to the end of the file and
>>>>>> encrypted by the virus. The virus writes 7800 bytes of its code
>>>>>> which is a DOS program (with EXE header) itself to infected file
>>>>>> beginning thus converting any Windows program to DOS format. When
>>>>>> any infected DOS or Windows program is run, virus code gets
>>>>>> control first, infects more EXE files on hard disk(s) and then
>>>>>> passes control to the original file code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The virus has an ability to spread itself through IRC networks. On
>>>>>> infected system the virus modifies settings of IRC client (mIRC)
>>>>>> and creates TOADIE.EXE file. This file is sent [DCC] by an
>>>>>> infected user to anyone who is joining any IRC channel the user
>>>>>> is on at the moment. The virus also can replace unsent message
>>>>>> contents in Outbound folder of Pegasus Mail. In this case the
>>>>>> virus executable will be sent out instead of an original outgoing
>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 1.1 version of this virus contains several internal text
>>>>>> strings and rhymes. They are output only once when the virus
>>>>>> starts from a dropper (that is 1 byte longer than the virus
>>>>>> body):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There once was a bud named B.C. He grew on a 7 foot tree Till one
>>>>>> day I plucked him Rolled him and smoked him And now I can barely
>>>>>> see! dia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ladiesa nd gentlemen, I stand before you to stand behind you to
>>>>>> tell you something I know nothing about. Thursday, which is Good
>>>>>> Friday, we're having a Father's Day party for mother's only.
>>>>>> Admission is free, pay at the door, pull out a chair and sit on
>>>>>> the floor. Late one night in the middle of the day, two dead
>>>>>> soldiers got up to fight. Back to back they faced each other,
>>>>>> pulled out their swords and shot one another. A deaf policeman
>>>>>> heard the noise, got up and shot the twice dead boys. If you
>>>>>> don't believe me, ask the blind man who saw it all, through a
>>>>>> knothole in a wooden brick wall. Question: If someone with
>>>>>> multiple personalities tries to commit suicide, do the police
>>>>>> consider it a hostage situation? One bong hit, Two bong hit,
>>>>>> Three bong hit, Floor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 7800 bytes long virus version is a very fast infector. Within
>>>>>> several minutes all EXE files will be infected. From 3:00pm to
>>>>>> 5:00pm the virus 'sleeps' - doesn't replicate. Infected files do
>>>>>> not work after 9:00pm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The virus also displays a copyright message if current minutes are
>>>>>> equal to
>>>>>> 17.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes David you've *destroyed* snits description of Gremlin by
>>>>>> sharing what you did for the purposes of attacking him over code
>>>>>> that was written years before he ever heard of you. This reply
>>>>>> containing details of his Toadie virus haven't helped snit
>>>>>> either. You're welcome. Asshat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You write as if you are PROUD of the harm that was done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nil Point (said with a French accent)
>>>>
>>>> Any evidence Gremlin actually wrote these, or if he did have a hand in them
>>>> did so alone? Those who really do such work might use someone who wants to
>>>> brag to be able to pin it on them.
>>>
>>> As I've said elsewhere, I am 100% sure that Dustin J. Cook wrote and
>>> published his viruses without outside help. He was a complete loner back
>>> then.
>>
>> Seems likely that is the type person a real virus writer would work to help
>> hide their work. Find someone with a desire to be a "big shot" and take credit
>> as they ride off into the sunset. Seems Gremlin did not get in much trouble
>> with the law, but he could have.
>>
>
> It is because the law didn't catch him that I came to Usenet to bring
> him to his senses!
>
You will fail.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:

>
>As I've said elsewhere, I am 100% sure that Dustin J. Cook wrote and published his viruses without outside help.

He's never denied doing so. He was open candid and honest with you
about his past when you asked, too. The only reason you're even
pretending to care about the whole virus past is because you
*FAILED TO CON HIM* into breaking into other peoples gear for
your benefit. That's when you decided to take issue with his past
on usenet - after you got busted trying to dox him.
So here you are again -name dropping him for the floodbot search
engine feeding. Your doing what snit does.

You've been dishonest with and about Gremlin from your first
email. And everybody knows it, David.

>He was a complete loner back then.

You wouldn't even know that. You didn't even know he existed for
several more years after he wrote and released his last virus
family Irok. By the time you heard of him he was already a
reformed good guy - writing and supporting his own antimalware
program. That he told you he wrote to try and make up for some of
the harm his virus writing had caused. So you lied about him
again recently when you claimed he wasn't sorry for any bad shit
he did. You knowingly lied your ass off. It's what you do. It's
why you and snit get along so well. He does the same
shit.

--
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitlies>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
<https://tinyurl.com/StalkerDavid>

Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

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Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

>Any evidence Gremlin actually wrote these,

Shitloads. So much evidence exists that it's considered to be
common knowledge. All of the regulars from ACW know this. And
now, you do too. Whether or not you admit it OR like
it.

>or if he did have a hand in them did so alone?

He wrote them from scratch. He's a coder - not a wannabe script
kiddie like you.

He was the first to use the ASiC language to do so. And he was the
first one who discovered you could convert PE into a standard MZ
and back. Which is how his viruses were multi os friendly from
one code base.

>Those who really do such work might use someone who wants to brag to be able to pin it on them.

Gremlin really did such work. Why do you think FromTheRafters and
Apd grilled you about the description you made up about him? They
know about his background. Apd has analyzed some of Gremlins work
back in the day. They knew you were full of shit and writing from
your ass about Gremlin.

And now thanks to David bringing some of his past up to attack him
- your bogus description of Gremlin has been sunk.

We look forward to your efforts to back track and spin now that
you know Gremlin is light years more advanced in tech skill and
knowledge than you, Steve Carroll, and anyone else you know. All
kidding aside - you haven't got shit to compare with him skillset
wise. You never did and you never will.

With this all coming out - it shows that Gremlin is who and what
he told you he was. That's reality. Like it or not.

--
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitlies>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
<https://tinyurl.com/StalkerDavid>

Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

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Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

>I think he likely was tied to them... but from what he has shown in this groupI see no real skills with coding.

He was friends with the others in VX. His viruses are 100% his
original code tho. He didn't even use a tutorial to help with his
first one - as many others did. There were no tutorials for him
to go by - he opted to write them in a language that wasn't
friendly to the task. What can we say? He likes a challenge.

So he was on his own from start to finish. It's easier to write a
virus in pure assembler than it is to write one using an HLL. And
Gremlin didn't pick an HLL with many hand holding features to do
this with. He selected an odd duck called ASiC. That language
barely qualifies as an HLL. It's barely above assembler. It has a
grand total of 80 internal commands. Anything else you want or
need from it has to be provided by you. Either using it or
another language to add functionality.

We did tell your stupid ass - almost everyone with HHI has
comparable skillsets. Most of us are coders - like Gremlin. This
is why we understood what he did and for the most part why he did
it.

We disagreed with him on the entire release aspect. We've had many
a discussion with him about that code. And the dataloss his viral
code was responsible for. We are his friend but that doesn't mean
we turned a blind eye to the stupid and harmful code he wrote
either. We didn't have a problem with the coding aspect. It can
be mentally stimulating to write self replicating code that can
evade your systems defenses. We understood that. We didn't agree
with their release in any manner..

snit did you know that he got two legit av never expires licenses
for regged copies in his real name while an active vxer? He did a
deal with them. In exchange for regged copies of their warez he
would email a fresh binary of his latest digital bug twenty four
hours before it was provided on his pro virus website. Av got a
24 hour heads up and he got full access to their software with
his own personalized registration key.

So some Av already knew Raid aka Gremlins real information. The
only avers to try and dox him though was Sophos. He kept
embarrasing clueless cluley so cluley thought he'd pay Gremlin
back and disclosed his first and last name in a virus bulletin
article.

The more David brings up for the purposes of sliming him - the
more pathetic people learn you really are for trying to paint
Gremlin out as a functionally illiterate and incompetent fraud.
He's already forgotten more about computers than you, David
Brooks, and Steve Carroll combined even know about the machine
sitting in front of you. He can school all three of you on
hardware software and networking. If that's not enough of an ass
kicking, thanks to his secondary trade skills as an electrician
he can run new dedicated circuits for those computers. He doesn't
need to call a system builder a network engineer or an
electrician. He's trained certified and has skill in all
three.

And if you're claiming that you've seen nothing involving skill
from Gremlin - why did you and only you have such a hard time
with duplicating his AZ program? What does that say about you
snit? How based on the struggle you had doing that can anyone
assume you're in a position to be able to determine who does and
who doesn't have skill?

>Carroll blows him away.

Hows that? Carroll has shared script. Gremlin has shared actual
source code for a binary when it's compiled. You had a hell of a
time porting one of his simple programs called AZ so what makes
you even think you're qualified to determine that Carroll has
done as you wrote?

We haven't seen him discuss a disassembly of an executable. We
have seen Gremlin have such discussions.

>Heck, I am a shitty scripter and we each have done things the other has failed to be able to do,or at least easily do.

We doubt that you could write anything in script that Gremlin and
or Steve Carroll couldn't duplicate with relative ease. The fact
you admit you're a shitty scripter should tell most who
understand logic and can apply it - that you are not even semi
qualified or knowledgeable enough on the subject to give any
opinion. Let alone the one you have. So logically speaking the
only reason you made the comment was to try and take a cheap shot
at Gremlin because you aren't even close to being in the same
league. And because you cannot stand the fact they get along and
either of them can school your master in it holding dumbass
without really even trying.

You are so desperate that you wish Gremlin needed help to write
those viruses. It chaps your ass that he did not. And it's
absolutely burning you up seeing all this disclosed about him. A
disclosure which has *destroyed* the label you pulled from your
arsehole to describe and slime him for search engine seeding.

Even you can see the writing on the wall here. You know you
royally fucked up in writing that bs description of Gremlin. And
now you're wondering how you can revise and sell a new story.
Rather than admit you lied about him. Yet again.

He can't be as you described and have a background anything like
the one David has brought up. Again - totally destroying the
known false description you wrote for him to feed the floodbot
for the specific purpose of screwing him over with search
engines. You're a total dishonest pile of pigshit. You fucked up.
Everybody knows you fucked up for sure now too snit. For
sure.

You're going to have to come up with something else. The past
David shared for the purposes of fucking Gremlin over have
instead - exposed you for having lied multiple times about
Gremlin.

David is so focused on revenge that he doesn't give a second
thought about posting material about Gremlin which directly
contradicts your story you fabricated to describe
Gremlin.

We told you that David wasn't your friend. Again because of his
immense hatred of Gremlin he has confirmed you have lied about
Gremlin. He doesn't care about the position he's placed you in -
it's all about getting even with Gremlin. He tried to dox Gremlin
unprovoked some years back. Gremlin performed a proper righteous
and well deserved followup David doxxing two years after David
initiated. It's been about getting even since then. You're
nothing more than a pawn in his game. When the fuck are you going
to wake up and realize that?

Doesn't matter that he tossed you under the bus and will
repeatedly do so if he thinks he can get one over on Gremlin or
con someone into thinking Gremlin is an evil person who needs to
be hungout to dry.

David is so focused on this he challenged every attempt you made
to infer Gremlin used someone elses code to work from - as you
did with your bots - and continued to dismiss and correct you.
Ouch. What David did was torpedo your anti Gremlin description
that wasn't ever based on facts.

When it comes to Gremlin - for David - you're nothing more than a
means to an end. He was hoping you were more intelligent with
skills you don't have so that you could help him with Gremlin. He
has come to the realization that Gremlin would use you as a
chewtoy. You do not have the abilities David assumed you did.
Therefore you aren't as valuable to David as he initially thought
you would be.

He hasn such little confidence in your ability to square off with
Gremlin that he has attempted to protect you from Gremlin. If he
thought you could deal with Gremlin or us on your own - he
wouldn't have. Yes snit - David knows that you're in way over
your head. And now thanks to his xposting efforts the cocky
posters from rec.photo.digital aren't interested in playing along
anymore.

Hh mistook Gremlin for being a weak usenet troll - he went by
Davids words without fact checking. Probably wise of him to stop
trying to help David dox him when he did. Because - it's one
thing to get a smartass attitude with someone you mistake as
being a regular joe for an infamous former blackhat hacker isn't
it. :)

--
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitlies>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
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Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> Wrote in message:

>This out of control hijacking of a thread is but one of the reasons I have all iterations of David Brooks effectively kill-filed.

We personally have had little interaction with him compared to
that of many others. Especially Gremlin. David knows that he's
been away and would have - had we not come out of lurk mode to
challenge - taken full opportunity to attack and slime someone
who doesn't even know this is happening and presently cannot come
here and defend himself against it.

>I choose not to go down any of the ?Boater Dave? rabbit holes as that results in wallowing in that swamp of confusion, and absolute pollution of any cross threaded News Group. My UseNet life is simpler without David Brooks involved.

It sounds to us like you've got some of what David is - well
understood. And you're taking wise action as a result. There's no
point in us telling you more about him then. Our job is done
there.

>Please stop posting this crap to rec.photo.digital.

As we previously wrote we lack the ability (of all things that are
broken) to break away from the xposting because the newsgroup
entry box is greyed out - We can edit that box in new post mode
but cannot currently do so in reply mode.

We can't even see more than one newsgroup listing while in reply
mode. We have to be in read mode and select the bubble words icon
to get header information. That's why we didn't catch this in our
first reply to him where he hijacked it.

For reasons we aren't going to get into - our client choices are
limited. This is one of the better ones available for this
platform. We believe this to be a bug and have reached out to the
author hoping a quick fix is issued.

We sincerely do apologize. We will check headers now before
replying so that we aren't hijacked again. We will keep our
replies in this thread and will not engage him further in other
threads in the rec newsgroup. Hopefully the rest of you paid
attention to what SavageDuck wrote concerning David and let him
starve on the other threads.

And we are almost done with this one.

--
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitlies>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
<https://tinyurl.com/StalkerDavid>

Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

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On 15/01/2022 02:12, LegionX wrote:
> We intend to bury you in it.

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On 15/01/2022 03:53, LegionX wrote:
> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>
>> I think he likely was tied to them... but from what he has shown in this groupI see no real skills with coding.
>
> He was friends with the others in VX. His viruses are 100% his
> original code tho. He didn't even use a tutorial to help with his
> first one - as many others did. There were no tutorials for him
> to go by - he opted to write them in a language that wasn't
> friendly to the task. What can we say? He likes a challenge.
>
>
> So he was on his own from start to finish. It's easier to write a
> virus in pure assembler than it is to write one using an HLL. And
> Gremlin didn't pick an HLL with many hand holding features to do
> this with. He selected an odd duck called ASiC. That language
> barely qualifies as an HLL. It's barely above assembler. It has a
> grand total of 80 internal commands. Anything else you want or
> need from it has to be provided by you. Either using it or
> another language to add functionality.
>
> We did tell your stupid ass - almost everyone with HHI has
> comparable skillsets. Most of us are coders - like Gremlin. This
> is why we understood what he did and for the most part why he did
> it.
>
> We disagreed with him on the entire release aspect. We've had many
> a discussion with him about that code. And the dataloss his viral
> code was responsible for. We are his friend but that doesn't mean
> we turned a blind eye to the stupid and harmful code he wrote
> either. We didn't have a problem with the coding aspect. It can
> be mentally stimulating to write self replicating code that can
> evade your systems defenses. We understood that. We didn't agree
> with their release in any manner..
>
> snit did you know that he got two legit av never expires licenses
> for regged copies in his real name while an active vxer? He did a
> deal with them. In exchange for regged copies of their warez he
> would email a fresh binary of his latest digital bug twenty four
> hours before it was provided on his pro virus website. Av got a
> 24 hour heads up and he got full access to their software with
> his own personalized registration key.
>
> So some Av already knew Raid aka Gremlins real information. The
> only avers to try and dox him though was Sophos. He kept
> embarrasing clueless cluley so cluley thought he'd pay Gremlin
> back and disclosed his first and last name in a virus bulletin
> article.
>
> The more David brings up for the purposes of sliming him - the
> more pathetic people learn you really are for trying to paint
> Gremlin out as a functionally illiterate and incompetent fraud.
> He's already forgotten more about computers than you, David
> Brooks, and Steve Carroll combined even know about the machine
> sitting in front of you. He can school all three of you on
> hardware software and networking. If that's not enough of an ass
> kicking, thanks to his secondary trade skills as an electrician
> he can run new dedicated circuits for those computers. He doesn't
> need to call a system builder a network engineer or an
> electrician. He's trained certified and has skill in all
> three.
>
> And if you're claiming that you've seen nothing involving skill
> from Gremlin - why did you and only you have such a hard time
> with duplicating his AZ program? What does that say about you
> snit? How based on the struggle you had doing that can anyone
> assume you're in a position to be able to determine who does and
> who doesn't have skill?
>
>> Carroll blows him away.
>
> Hows that? Carroll has shared script. Gremlin has shared actual
> source code for a binary when it's compiled. You had a hell of a
> time porting one of his simple programs called AZ so what makes
> you even think you're qualified to determine that Carroll has
> done as you wrote?
>
> We haven't seen him discuss a disassembly of an executable. We
> have seen Gremlin have such discussions.
>
>> Heck, I am a shitty scripter and we each have done things the other has failed to be able to do,or at least easily do.
>
> We doubt that you could write anything in script that Gremlin and
> or Steve Carroll couldn't duplicate with relative ease. The fact
> you admit you're a shitty scripter should tell most who
> understand logic and can apply it - that you are not even semi
> qualified or knowledgeable enough on the subject to give any
> opinion. Let alone the one you have. So logically speaking the
> only reason you made the comment was to try and take a cheap shot
> at Gremlin because you aren't even close to being in the same
> league. And because you cannot stand the fact they get along and
> either of them can school your master in it holding dumbass
> without really even trying.
>
> You are so desperate that you wish Gremlin needed help to write
> those viruses. It chaps your ass that he did not. And it's
> absolutely burning you up seeing all this disclosed about him. A
> disclosure which has *destroyed* the label you pulled from your
> arsehole to describe and slime him for search engine seeding.
>
>
> Even you can see the writing on the wall here. You know you
> royally fucked up in writing that bs description of Gremlin. And
> now you're wondering how you can revise and sell a new story.
> Rather than admit you lied about him. Yet again.
>
>
> He can't be as you described and have a background anything like
> the one David has brought up. Again - totally destroying the
> known false description you wrote for him to feed the floodbot
> for the specific purpose of screwing him over with search
> engines. You're a total dishonest pile of pigshit. You fucked up.
> Everybody knows you fucked up for sure now too snit. For
> sure.
>
> You're going to have to come up with something else. The past
> David shared for the purposes of fucking Gremlin over have
> instead - exposed you for having lied multiple times about
> Gremlin.
>
> David is so focused on revenge that he doesn't give a second
> thought about posting material about Gremlin which directly
> contradicts your story you fabricated to describe
> Gremlin.
>
> We told you that David wasn't your friend. Again because of his
> immense hatred of Gremlin he has confirmed you have lied about
> Gremlin. He doesn't care about the position he's placed you in -
> it's all about getting even with Gremlin. He tried to dox Gremlin
> unprovoked some years back. Gremlin performed a proper righteous
> and well deserved followup David doxxing two years after David
> initiated. It's been about getting even since then. You're
> nothing more than a pawn in his game. When the fuck are you going
> to wake up and realize that?
>
> Doesn't matter that he tossed you under the bus and will
> repeatedly do so if he thinks he can get one over on Gremlin or
> con someone into thinking Gremlin is an evil person who needs to
> be hungout to dry.
>
> David is so focused on this he challenged every attempt you made
> to infer Gremlin used someone elses code to work from - as you
> did with your bots - and continued to dismiss and correct you.
> Ouch. What David did was torpedo your anti Gremlin description
> that wasn't ever based on facts.
>
> When it comes to Gremlin - for David - you're nothing more than a
> means to an end. He was hoping you were more intelligent with
> skills you don't have so that you could help him with Gremlin. He
> has come to the realization that Gremlin would use you as a
> chewtoy. You do not have the abilities David assumed you did.
> Therefore you aren't as valuable to David as he initially thought
> you would be.
>
> He hasn such little confidence in your ability to square off with
> Gremlin that he has attempted to protect you from Gremlin. If he
> thought you could deal with Gremlin or us on your own - he
> wouldn't have. Yes snit - David knows that you're in way over
> your head. And now thanks to his xposting efforts the cocky
> posters from rec.photo.digital aren't interested in playing along
> anymore.
>
> Hh mistook Gremlin for being a weak usenet troll - he went by
> Davids words without fact checking. Probably wise of him to stop
> trying to help David dox him when he did. Because - it's one
> thing to get a smartass attitude with someone you mistake as
> being a regular joe for an infamous former blackhat hacker isn't
> it. :)


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On 14/01/2022 23:59, LegionX wrote:
> David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:
>
>> Someone please notify Savageduck that he is responding to a sock of Dustin. J. Cook, a retired virus writer.
>
> You've made the same completely unsupported accusation as snit
> began doing after we busted him doing what he and you accused us
> of.
>
> We give you the same invite to show proof to support your
> accusation as we have snit. Are you going to disappoint as he
> has?

Do you deny it, Dustin?

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 by: David Brooks - Sat, 15 Jan 2022 09:20 UTC

On 15/01/2022 01:56, LegionX wrote:
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> Wrote in message:
>
>> Please stop posting this crap to rec.photo.digital. on an obviously hijacked thread, and X-posting where it can only accumulate flame warriors.
>
> We apologize in advance for our xposted replies. This client is
> horrible in that none of us has been able to change the
> newsgroups line.
> We have reached out to the author and are hopefully getting a fix.
> Soon.
>
> We are responding for the purpose of defending our friend who went
> out of state for a large electrical job and hasn't been here to
> defend himself from the lies David Brooks and his best friend
> snit have been writing about him in his absense. Gremlin has been
> away from usenet for over six months now. David has been trying
> to take advantage by writing the bs he does.
>

Did your 'friend' - Dustin J. Cook - drop his laptop?

Being unable to communicate simply because he is "out of state" simply
won't wash, Dustin!

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On 15/01/2022 05:59, LegionX wrote:
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> Wrote in message:
>
>> This out of control hijacking of a thread is but one of the reasons I have all iterations of David Brooks effectively kill-filed.
>
> We personally have had little interaction with him compared to
> that of many others. Especially Gremlin. David knows that he's
> been away and would have - had we not come out of lurk mode to
> challenge - taken full opportunity to attack and slime someone
> who doesn't even know this is happening and presently cannot come
> here and defend himself against it.
>
>> I choose not to go down any of the ?Boater Dave? rabbit holes as that results in wallowing in that swamp of confusion, and absolute pollution of any cross threaded News Group. My UseNet life is simpler without David Brooks involved.
>
> It sounds to us like you've got some of what David is - well
> understood. And you're taking wise action as a result. There's no
> point in us telling you more about him then. Our job is done
> there.
>
>> Please stop posting this crap to rec.photo.digital.
>
> As we previously wrote we lack the ability (of all things that are
> broken) to break away from the xposting because the newsgroup
> entry box is greyed out - We can edit that box in new post mode
> but cannot currently do so in reply mode.
>
> We can't even see more than one newsgroup listing while in reply
> mode. We have to be in read mode and select the bubble words icon
> to get header information. That's why we didn't catch this in our
> first reply to him where he hijacked it.
>
> For reasons we aren't going to get into - our client choices are
> limited. This is one of the better ones available for this
> platform. We believe this to be a bug and have reached out to the
> author hoping a quick fix is issued.
>
> We sincerely do apologize. We will check headers now before
> replying so that we aren't hijacked again. We will keep our
> replies in this thread and will not engage him further in other
> threads in the rec newsgroup. Hopefully the rest of you paid
> attention to what SavageDuck wrote concerning David and let him
> starve on the other threads.
>
> And we are almost done with this one.

Are we just?!!!

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On 15/01/2022 02:12, Snit wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:56:56 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <YcnEJ.19849$0Kl7.15483@fx11.ams1>:
>
>> On 14/01/2022 20:30, Snit wrote:
>>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 12:32:00 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <QckEJ.134361$%Gk6.8512@fx10.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 14/01/2022 18:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 14, 2022 at 3:29:45 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <ugcEJ.447113$SVq5.273563@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/01/2022 04:45, LegionX wrote:
>>>>>>> David Brooks <David@geemail.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The author of Irok-10000, who calls himself Raid, also wrote the HLL
>>>>>>>> Toadie.7800 virus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ayep. That's his too. We aren't disputing any of this David...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the tech details on Toadie
>>>>>>> <https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/toadie.shtml>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Toadie is a relocating virus-worm. It is encrypted and non-memory
>>>>>>> resident. This virus was posted to several newsgroups as a cell
>>>>>>> phone cloning application on 15th of August 1999. The virus was
>>>>>>> in CELLCRK.ZIP file. When the CELLCRK.EXE program that was inside
>>>>>>> that ZIP is run it displays a rhyme and a copyright string of
>>>>>>> Symantec.
>>>>>>> TECHNICAL DETAILS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When activated the virus searches for EXE files and infects them
>>>>>>> (50-100 at a time for Toadie.7800 version). This might cause a
>>>>>>> considerable decrease of perfomance on DOS-based and slow Windows
>>>>>>> systems. The delay after an infected file is run and before the
>>>>>>> original file code gets control can be up to 20 seconds if no
>>>>>>> disk cache program is installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The virus infects DOS and Windows EXE files files the same way.
>>>>>>> The 7800 bytes (or other length depending on virus version) from
>>>>>>> original file beginning are relocated to the end of the file and
>>>>>>> encrypted by the virus. The virus writes 7800 bytes of its code
>>>>>>> which is a DOS program (with EXE header) itself to infected file
>>>>>>> beginning thus converting any Windows program to DOS format. When
>>>>>>> any infected DOS or Windows program is run, virus code gets
>>>>>>> control first, infects more EXE files on hard disk(s) and then
>>>>>>> passes control to the original file code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The virus has an ability to spread itself through IRC networks. On
>>>>>>> infected system the virus modifies settings of IRC client (mIRC)
>>>>>>> and creates TOADIE.EXE file. This file is sent [DCC] by an
>>>>>>> infected user to anyone who is joining any IRC channel the user
>>>>>>> is on at the moment. The virus also can replace unsent message
>>>>>>> contents in Outbound folder of Pegasus Mail. In this case the
>>>>>>> virus executable will be sent out instead of an original outgoing
>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 1.1 version of this virus contains several internal text
>>>>>>> strings and rhymes. They are output only once when the virus
>>>>>>> starts from a dropper (that is 1 byte longer than the virus
>>>>>>> body):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There once was a bud named B.C. He grew on a 7 foot tree Till one
>>>>>>> day I plucked him Rolled him and smoked him And now I can barely
>>>>>>> see! dia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ladiesa nd gentlemen, I stand before you to stand behind you to
>>>>>>> tell you something I know nothing about. Thursday, which is Good
>>>>>>> Friday, we're having a Father's Day party for mother's only.
>>>>>>> Admission is free, pay at the door, pull out a chair and sit on
>>>>>>> the floor. Late one night in the middle of the day, two dead
>>>>>>> soldiers got up to fight. Back to back they faced each other,
>>>>>>> pulled out their swords and shot one another. A deaf policeman
>>>>>>> heard the noise, got up and shot the twice dead boys. If you
>>>>>>> don't believe me, ask the blind man who saw it all, through a
>>>>>>> knothole in a wooden brick wall. Question: If someone with
>>>>>>> multiple personalities tries to commit suicide, do the police
>>>>>>> consider it a hostage situation? One bong hit, Two bong hit,
>>>>>>> Three bong hit, Floor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 7800 bytes long virus version is a very fast infector. Within
>>>>>>> several minutes all EXE files will be infected. From 3:00pm to
>>>>>>> 5:00pm the virus 'sleeps' - doesn't replicate. Infected files do
>>>>>>> not work after 9:00pm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The virus also displays a copyright message if current minutes are
>>>>>>> equal to
>>>>>>> 17.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes David you've *destroyed* snits description of Gremlin by
>>>>>>> sharing what you did for the purposes of attacking him over code
>>>>>>> that was written years before he ever heard of you. This reply
>>>>>>> containing details of his Toadie virus haven't helped snit
>>>>>>> either. You're welcome. Asshat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You write as if you are PROUD of the harm that was done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nil Point (said with a French accent)
>>>>>
>>>>> Any evidence Gremlin actually wrote these, or if he did have a hand in them
>>>>> did so alone? Those who really do such work might use someone who wants to
>>>>> brag to be able to pin it on them.
>>>>
>>>> As I've said elsewhere, I am 100% sure that Dustin J. Cook wrote and
>>>> published his viruses without outside help. He was a complete loner back
>>>> then.
>>>
>>> Seems likely that is the type person a real virus writer would work to help
>>> hide their work. Find someone with a desire to be a "big shot" and take credit
>>> as they ride off into the sunset. Seems Gremlin did not get in much trouble
>>> with the law, but he could have.
>>>
>>
>> It is because the law didn't catch him that I came to Usenet to bring
>> him to his senses!
>>
> You will fail.

Leopards changing spots?

Sadly, you are probably right. :-(

It's been fun trying though.

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