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by: JanPB - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 04:14 UTC

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?

It doesn't.

> Where was that second time before? with the first time?

N/A

> How are their two times together first?
> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?

N/A

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 17:59 UTC

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> It doesn't.

Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
Your teachers have cheated you Jan.
They left you out... They can be your authority...

Mitchell Raemsch

> > Where was that second time before? with the first time?
> N/A
> > How are their two times together first?
> > What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
> N/A
>
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> Jan

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by: JanPB - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:37 UTC

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > It doesn't.
> Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?

It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
at the singularity.

> It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.

No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg..

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 22:28 UTC

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail..com wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > It doesn't.
> > Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> at the singularity.
> > It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.

You don't know the theory jan.
Prove it does not say time ends there.

>
> --
> Jan

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by: Bladimir Babynin - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:15 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
>> It doesn't.
>
> Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over
> inside. Your teachers have cheated you Jan.
> They left you out... They can be your authority...

are you the american people??

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by: Pascal Bagler - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 14:06 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
>> No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your
>> leg.
>
> You don't know the theory jan. Prove it does not say time ends there.

we agree. The capitalist america wants again to try going to Moon on
stolen technology. What they did? They made a shitty movie out of it.

𝗜𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗮_𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗱𝘂𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹_𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗮𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗱_𝗼𝗳_𝗳𝗶𝗿𝘀𝘁_𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 lol
https://r%74.com/india/585456-india-gaganyaa-mission-test-crew-module/

Go to Google and learn that 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗨.𝗦._𝗵𝗮𝘀_𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝘁𝗼_𝗯𝘂𝘆 aspects of Indian
space technology. The reports are all over the place.

it looks like the capitalist america is "buying" space technology from the
street poppers shitting outdoors. No difference from america. They shit on
streets, behind cars, beaches and outdoors in bushes back in their garden.

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by: Volney - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 16:55 UTC

On 10/20/2023 6:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
>> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
>>>> It doesn't.
>>> Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
>> It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
>> at the singularity.
>>> It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
>> No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
>
> You don't know the theory jan.

> Prove it does not say time ends there.

Roy, it is your claim, so it is up to you to point out where one time
ends and another begins in relativity.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 23:42 UTC

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:55:50 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> On 10/20/2023 6:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> >> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> >>>> It doesn't.
> >>> Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> >> It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> >> at the singularity.
> >>> It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> >> No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
> >
> > You don't know the theory jan.
>
> > Prove it does not say time ends there.
> Roy, it is your claim, so it is up to you to point out where one time
> ends and another begins in relativity.

I can claim what is real in GR.

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by: JanPB - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 22:00 UTC

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > > It doesn't.
> > > Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> > It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> > at the singularity.
> > > It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> > No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
> You don't know the theory jan.
> Prove it does not say time ends there.

It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
cross the horizon.

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by: JanPB - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 22:01 UTC

On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 4:42:40 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:55:50 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
> > On 10/20/2023 6:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > >> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > >>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr....@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > >>>> It doesn't.
> > >>> Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> > >> It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> > >> at the singularity.
> > >>> It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> > >> No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
> > >
> > > You don't know the theory jan.
> >
> > > Prove it does not say time ends there.
> > Roy, it is your claim, so it is up to you to point out where one time
> > ends and another begins in relativity.
> I can claim what is real in GR.

GR says no such thing.

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Jan

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by: Chris M. Thomasson - Wed, 25 Oct 2023 04:51 UTC

On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
> How are their two times together first?
> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?

Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?

Time does not end at all.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:43 UTC

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > > > It doesn't.
> > > > Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> > > It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> > > at the singularity.
> > > > It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> > > No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
> > You don't know the theory jan.
> > Prove it does not say time ends there.
> It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
> cross the horizon.

There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...

>
> --
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by: JanPB - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:51 UTC

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:43:58 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail..com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > > > > It doesn't.
> > > > > Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> > > > It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> > > > at the singularity.
> > > > > It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> > > > No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
> > > You don't know the theory jan.
> > > Prove it does not say time ends there.
> > It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
> > cross the horizon.
> There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...

No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like
a mirage.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 17:34 UTC

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:51:44 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:43:58 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > > > > > It doesn't.
> > > > > > Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> > > > > It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> > > > > at the singularity.
> > > > > > It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> > > > > No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
> > > > You don't know the theory jan.
> > > > Prove it does not say time ends there.
> > > It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
> > > cross the horizon.
> > There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...
> No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
> external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like
> a mirage.
>
> --
> Jan

You were taught wrong jan.
Fall does reach the speed of light.
Time does end at a BH.

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by: The Starmaker - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 18:09 UTC

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>
> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > Where was that second time before? with the first time?
> > How are their two times together first?
> > What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
>
> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
>
> Time does not end at all.

If Time does not end at all then

Time has no beginning at all.

The first three secinds are simply Time created in...seconds.

Before the 'second' we had Time without seconds. Eternal Time.

No beginning, no end.

I mean, yous people still don't understand The Code!

This is The Code: 'In the begininng, God created the heavens and the earth.'

Now, you take The Code..."In the begininng..."

Define "In"
Define "the"
Define "beginning"

And The Code reads: 'In space, the first second was created.'

or, 'In Time, the first second was created.'

And the movie began...frame by frame.

Time is film without the frames. Add a frame...you have the first second of the movie.

I hope you brought your own popcorn...

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 18:20 UTC

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >
> > On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > Where was that second time before? with the first time?
> > > How are their two times together first?
> > > What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
> >
> > Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
> > into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
> > object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
> > moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
> >
> > Time does not end at all.
> If Time does not end at all then
>
> Time has no beginning at all.

No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...

> The first three secinds are simply Time created in...seconds.
>
> Before the 'second' we had Time without seconds. Eternal Time.
>
> No beginning, no end.
>
>
> I mean, yous people still don't understand The Code!
>
> This is The Code: 'In the begininng, God created the heavens and the earth.'
>
>
> Now, you take The Code..."In the begininng..."
>
> Define "In"
> Define "the"
> Define "beginning"
>
> And The Code reads: 'In space, the first second was created.'
>
> or, 'In Time, the first second was created.'
>
>
> And the movie began...frame by frame.
>
> Time is film without the frames. Add a frame...you have the first second of the movie.
>
> I hope you brought your own popcorn...
>
>
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

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by: Chris M. Thomasson - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 20:19 UTC

On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
>>>> How are their two times together first?
>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
>>>
>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
>>>
>>> Time does not end at all.
>> If Time does not end at all then
>>
>> Time has no beginning at all.
>
> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
[...]

Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 21:37 UTC

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> >>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
> >>>> How are their two times together first?
> >>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
> >>>
> >>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
> >>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
> >>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
> >>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
> >>>
> >>> Time does not end at all.
> >> If Time does not end at all then
> >>
> >> Time has no beginning at all.
> >
> > No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
> [...]
>
> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)

In another way... He has always been a timeless God...

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by: The Starmaker - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 23:58 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11â¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48â¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > >>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
> > >>>> How are their two times together first?
> > >>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
> > >>>
> > >>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
> > >>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
> > >>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
> > >>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
> > >>>
> > >>> Time does not end at all.
> > >> If Time does not end at all then
> > >>
> > >> Time has no beginning at all.
> > >
> > > No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
> > [...]
> >
> > Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
>
> In another way... He has always been a timeless God...

The watch that God was wearing before didn't have seconds or minutes or
a big hand and a little hand.

It was not a timeless watch...it was a tick tock less watch.

An hour glass without the sand...

it was kind of...boring.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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by: JanPB - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 03:03 UTC

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 10:34:07 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail..com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:51:44 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:43:58 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > > > > > > It doesn't.
> > > > > > > Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> > > > > > It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> > > > > > at the singularity.
> > > > > > > It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> > > > > > No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
> > > > > You don't know the theory jan.
> > > > > Prove it does not say time ends there.
> > > > It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
> > > > cross the horizon.
> > > There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...
> > No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
> > external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like
> > a mirage.
> >
> > --
> > Jan
> You were taught wrong jan.
> Fall does reach the speed of light.
> Time does end at a BH.

No. This is false. Someone has been telling you stories.

--
Jan

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JanPB wrote:

> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 10:34:07 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com
>> You were taught wrong jan. Fall does reach the speed of light.
>> Time does end at a BH.
>
> No. This is false. Someone has been telling you stories.

no, he is correct. A blackhole without a singularity is nonsense.

𝗨𝗦_𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗸𝗲𝘀_𝗦𝘆𝗿𝗶𝗮_𝗶𝗻_‘𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗳-𝗱𝗲𝗳𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲’_–_𝗣𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗼𝗻
President Joe Biden has ordered the US military to strike two facilities
in eastern Syria
https://r%74.com/news/585916-us-strikes-syria-pentagon/

the warmongers occupy your country, steal your oil, then lecture you about
respecting international law, sovereignty and freedom. Then you try to get
rid of the warmongers, their excuse is, they have the right to defend
themselves on YOUR LAND, and you are NOT. rofl. Shall i say more about
this HYPOCRISY? imagine a thief kick you out of your house and tells the
court that a house owner should respect the thieve who made him homeless?
lol

My god! Are Russia and China going to let Biden get away with this?

Russian and Chinese weakness and complicity has emboldened 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗨𝗦 𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝘀
𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗭𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗺𝗮𝗹𝘀. Russia drew several "𝗿𝗲𝗱_𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀" and did not act and now
faces 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱_𝗮𝗴𝗴𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻_𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺_𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗢_𝗾𝘂𝗲𝗲𝗿𝘀. It is time for China and Russia
both to wake up and turn the tables on US losers in the Middle East. It is
a low cost and low risk option. Just arm Iran and the Axis of Resistance.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 19:13 UTC

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 8:03:07 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 10:34:07 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:51:44 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:43:58 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > > > > > > > It doesn't.
> > > > > > > > Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
> > > > > > > It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
> > > > > > > at the singularity.
> > > > > > > > It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
> > > > > > > No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
> > > > > > You don't know the theory jan.
> > > > > > Prove it does not say time ends there.
> > > > > It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
> > > > > cross the horizon.
> > > > There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...
> > > No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
> > > external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like
> > > a mirage.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jan
> > You were taught wrong jan.
> > Fall does reach the speed of light.
> > Time does end at a BH.
> No. This is false. Someone has been telling you stories.

You have been wrong about this jan.
You can't count on your education for what is right.
Clearly the theory says it does... and first at the event
horizon...

Mitchell Raemsch
>
> --
> Jan

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Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
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Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	The Starmaker
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson
Re: Time does not end...	Stormy Kablukov
Re: Time does not end...	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Time does not end...	Chris M. Thomasson