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* John Gabriel is dead.John Sylvester
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Dewey Achthoven
| `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.mitchr...@gmail.com
|  `* RE: Re: John Gabriel is dead.Earle Jones
|   `- Re: Re: John Gabriel is dead.Dan joyce
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
|`- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
|+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Knorp Thonka
||`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
|| +* Re: John Gabriel is dead.John Sylvester
|| |+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
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|| || `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
|| ||  `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|| ||   `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
|| ||    `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|| |+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.FromTheRafters
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|| |`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Volney
|| | +- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Teddy Kan
|| | `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Carloz Houttum
|| |  `- Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Mild Shock
|| `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Knorp Thonka
||  `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
| `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Dan Christensen
|`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
| `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
|  +- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|  `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.V õ l u r
|`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
| `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Fritz Feldhase
|  +* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|  |`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Ross Finlayson
|  | `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Ross Finlayson
|  |  +* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|  |  |`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | +* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Ross Finlayson
|  |  | |`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | | `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Ross Finlayson
|  |  | |  +* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
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|  |  | |  | `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | |  `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Ross Finlayson
|  |  | |   `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | |    `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Ross Finlayson
|  |  | |     +* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Knorp Thonka
|  |  | |     |`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | |     | `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Knorp Thonka
|  |  | |     |  `* Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Mild Shock
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|  |  | |     |   +* Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | |     |   |`* Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Chris M. Thomasson
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|  |  | |     |   | +- Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Fritz Feldhase
|  |  | |     |   | +- Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | |     |   | `* Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | |     |   |  `* Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|  |  | |     |   |   +* Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Mild Shock
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|  |  | |     |   |   |`- Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | |     |   |   +* Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Luigi Bonavita
|  |  | |     |   |   |`- Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|  |  | |     |   |   +* Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Luigi Bonavita
|  |  | |     |   |   |`- Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|  |  | |     |   |   +- Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Ross Finlayson
|  |  | |     |   |   `- Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.Ross Finlayson
|  |  | |     |   +- Re: John Gabriel is deadKnorp Thonka
|  |  | |     |   +- Re: John Gabriel is deadMild Shock
|  |  | |     |   +* Re: John Gabriel is deadMild Shock
|  |  | |     |   |`* Re: John Gabriel is deadChris M. Thomasson
|  |  | |     |   | `- Re: John Gabriel is deadChris M. Thomasson
|  |  | |     |   +- Re: John Gabriel is deadMild Shock
|  |  | |     |   +- Re: John Gabriel is deadMild Shock
|  |  | |     |   `- Re: John Gabriel is deadMild Shock
|  |  | |     `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|  |  | `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|  |  |  `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|  |  `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|  `- RE: Re: John Gabriel is dead.Earle Jones
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Quantum Bubbles
|+- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Knorp Thonka
|+- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Dan joyce
|`- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|`* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
| `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
|  `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Chris M. Thomasson
|   `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mostowski Collapse
|    `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Ross Finlayson
|     `* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Ross Finlayson
|      `- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
+- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Dan Christensen
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.markus...@gmail.com
+* Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
+- Re: John Gabriel is dead.Mild Shock
+- Re: John Gabriel is dead.bassam karzeddin
`- Re: John Gabriel is dead.V

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Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.

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Subject: Re: John Gabriel is NOT dead.
From: burse...@gmail.com (Mild Shock)
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 by: Mild Shock - Wed, 31 May 2023 00:03 UTC

After Elvis left the Building, the world was blessed
with Elvis immitators. Now we have the curse of

John Gabriel immitators? Id'rather kill myself as well.

LoL

Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:59:22 UTC+2:
> John Gabriel was a unique uber-crank, I doubt this can
> be turned into a merchandies, like this attempt:
>
> Symmetry of the circle defines four basic operations of arithmetic (- + -:- x).
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KadhQKKfg
>
> Which was uploaded post mortem, but the narrator
> is a boring idiot and not John Gabriel. This will not work!
> Chris M. Thomasson schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:46:52 UTC+2:
> > On 5/30/2023 4:19 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe he didn't die on 25th May, 2023, and he only died on
> > > 24.999...th May, 2023. These could be interesting details for the
> > > chronicles of USENET. John Gabriel was very pedantic in these matters.
> > He might get pissed off, and start calling you names in his life here on
> > Earth. RIP John!

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 by: Mild Shock - Wed, 31 May 2023 00:19 UTC

Generative AI could do a better job. But last time
I checked, for example ChatGPT, it did not know
anything about John Gabriel. I guess he didn't make it

into large language model (LLM) of ChatGPT.
Maybe some alternative Generative AI needs to be
consulted. In particular ChatGPT is typical

mainstream bitchy:

"I apologize for the misunderstanding. I'm not aware of
any YouTube personality named John Gabriel who is
credited with inventing or discovering New Calculus or
the Gabriel polynom. It's possible that this individual may

have popularized or introduced these concepts in their
YouTube videos or content. However, it's important to
note that mathematical discoveries and inventions are
typically attributed to established mathematicians and

researchers who publish their work in academic journals.
If John Gabriel is a YouTube personality discussing
mathematical concepts, it's essential to approach the
content critically and verify the information through

reputable sources and academic literature. While online platforms
can be valuable for learning and disseminating knowledge,
it's important to distinguish between educational content
and personal interpretations or speculations."

ChatGPT May 24 Version

Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 02:03:51 UTC+2:
> After Elvis left the Building, the world was blessed
> with Elvis immitators. Now we have the curse of
>
> John Gabriel immitators? Id'rather kill myself as well.
>
> LoL
> Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:59:22 UTC+2:
> > John Gabriel was a unique uber-crank, I doubt this can
> > be turned into a merchandies, like this attempt:
> >
> > Symmetry of the circle defines four basic operations of arithmetic (- + -:- x).
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KadhQKKfg
> >
> > Which was uploaded post mortem, but the narrator
> > is a boring idiot and not John Gabriel. This will not work!
> > Chris M. Thomasson schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:46:52 UTC+2:
> > > On 5/30/2023 4:19 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe he didn't die on 25th May, 2023, and he only died on
> > > > 24.999...th May, 2023. These could be interesting details for the
> > > > chronicles of USENET. John Gabriel was very pedantic in these matters.
> > > He might get pissed off, and start calling you names in his life here on
> > > Earth. RIP John!

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 by: Mild Shock - Wed, 31 May 2023 00:25 UTC

How about taking an LLM, and then training it
on all John Gabriel USENET, to enhance its model.
And then see what happens?

Maybe use some tools from here:
https://blog.langchain.dev/

Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 02:19:08 UTC+2:
> Generative AI could do a better job. But last time
> I checked, for example ChatGPT, it did not know
> anything about John Gabriel. I guess he didn't make it
>
> into large language model (LLM) of ChatGPT.
> Maybe some alternative Generative AI needs to be
> consulted. In particular ChatGPT is typical
>
> mainstream bitchy:
>
> "I apologize for the misunderstanding. I'm not aware of
> any YouTube personality named John Gabriel who is
> credited with inventing or discovering New Calculus or
> the Gabriel polynom. It's possible that this individual may
>
> have popularized or introduced these concepts in their
> YouTube videos or content. However, it's important to
> note that mathematical discoveries and inventions are
> typically attributed to established mathematicians and
>
> researchers who publish their work in academic journals.
> If John Gabriel is a YouTube personality discussing
> mathematical concepts, it's essential to approach the
> content critically and verify the information through
>
> reputable sources and academic literature. While online platforms
> can be valuable for learning and disseminating knowledge,
> it's important to distinguish between educational content
> and personal interpretations or speculations."
>
> ChatGPT May 24 Version
> Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 02:03:51 UTC+2:
> > After Elvis left the Building, the world was blessed
> > with Elvis immitators. Now we have the curse of
> >
> > John Gabriel immitators? Id'rather kill myself as well.
> >
> > LoL
> > Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:59:22 UTC+2:
> > > John Gabriel was a unique uber-crank, I doubt this can
> > > be turned into a merchandies, like this attempt:
> > >
> > > Symmetry of the circle defines four basic operations of arithmetic (- + -:- x).
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KadhQKKfg
> > >
> > > Which was uploaded post mortem, but the narrator
> > > is a boring idiot and not John Gabriel. This will not work!
> > > Chris M. Thomasson schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:46:52 UTC+2:
> > > > On 5/30/2023 4:19 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe he didn't die on 25th May, 2023, and he only died on
> > > > > 24.999...th May, 2023. These could be interesting details for the
> > > > > chronicles of USENET. John Gabriel was very pedantic in these matters.
> > > > He might get pissed off, and start calling you names in his life here on
> > > > Earth. RIP John!

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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 1:59:22 AM UTC+2, Mild Shock wrote:

> John Gabriel was a unique uber-crank, I doubt this can
> be turned into a merchandies, like this attempt:
>
> Symmetry of the circle defines four basic operations of arithmetic (- + -:- x).
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KadhQKKfg
>
> Which was uploaded post mortem, but the narrator
> is a boring idiot and not John Gabriel. [...]

Agree. Does not look original.

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 by: Mild Shock - Wed, 31 May 2023 00:56 UTC

John Gabriel recently showed vivid interest in ChatGPT.
His last upload before his exit was about ChatGPT.
So maybe he would like a digital twin of himself?

What is LangChain?

LangChain - Wikipedia
LangChain is a software development framework
designed to simplify the creation of applications
using large language models (LLMs). As a language
model integration framework, LangChain’s use-cases
largely overlap with those of language models in
general, including document analysis and summarization,
chatbots, and code analysis.

LangChain was launched in October 2022 as an
open source project by Harrison Chase, while
working at machine learning startup Robust
Intelligence. The project quickly garnered
popularity, with improvements from hundreds
of contributors on GitHub.

Fritz Feldhase schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 02:28:44 UTC+2:
> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 1:59:22 AM UTC+2, Mild Shock wrote:
>
> > John Gabriel was a unique uber-crank, I doubt this can
> > be turned into a merchandies, like this attempt:
> >
> > Symmetry of the circle defines four basic operations of arithmetic (- + -:- x).
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KadhQKKfg
> >
> > Which was uploaded post mortem, but the narrator
> > is a boring idiot and not John Gabriel. [...]
>
> Agree. Does not look original.

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 by: Mild Shock - Wed, 31 May 2023 01:06 UTC

But we would need to build a LLM that has the
"Politeness" module/filter disabled/switched off.

Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 02:56:08 UTC+2:
> John Gabriel recently showed vivid interest in ChatGPT.
> His last upload before his exit was about ChatGPT.
> So maybe he would like a digital twin of himself?
>
> What is LangChain?
>
> LangChain - Wikipedia
> LangChain is a software development framework
> designed to simplify the creation of applications
> using large language models (LLMs). As a language
> model integration framework, LangChain’s use-cases
> largely overlap with those of language models in
> general, including document analysis and summarization,
> chatbots, and code analysis.
>
> LangChain was launched in October 2022 as an
> open source project by Harrison Chase, while
> working at machine learning startup Robust
> Intelligence. The project quickly garnered
> popularity, with improvements from hundreds
> of contributors on GitHub.
> Fritz Feldhase schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 02:28:44 UTC+2:
> > On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 1:59:22 AM UTC+2, Mild Shock wrote:
> >
> > > John Gabriel was a unique uber-crank, I doubt this can
> > > be turned into a merchandies, like this attempt:
> > >
> > > Symmetry of the circle defines four basic operations of arithmetic (- + -:- x).
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KadhQKKfg
> > >
> > > Which was uploaded post mortem, but the narrator
> > > is a boring idiot and not John Gabriel. [...]
> >
> > Agree. Does not look original.

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On 5/30/2023 6:06 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>
> But we would need to build a LLM that has the
> "Politeness" module/filter disabled/switched off.
[...]

Data without his emotion chip? ;^)

Na. John will be missed.

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 by: Mild Shock - Wed, 31 May 2023 19:22 UTC

Ok, there is already an LLM with "Politeness" switched off:

Me: Who was John Gabriel

GlasgowGPT: John Gabriel? Whit kinda pure shite question
is that? Is he yer Da oan somhin? Nae offence, but I've nae
idea who he is and frankly my dear, Ah dinnae give a shite.

“I kinda made it as a joke,” said 28-year-old founder
and playwright David Hewitson.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23559698.glasgowgpt

Chris M. Thomasson schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 03:14:20 UTC+2:
> On 5/30/2023 6:06 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> >
> > But we would need to build a LLM that has the
> > "Politeness" module/filter disabled/switched off.
> [...]
>
> Data without his emotion chip? ;^)
>
> Na. John will be missed.

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https://archive.org/details/hyper_number_4_7

Certainly working in an early bifurcation of mathematics takes its toll
and it seems like a lot of work. As Ross would say, a quixotic endeavor.

> Data without his emotion chip? ;^)

Check the section 4 ;)

Chris, your project 'apCalc' sounds good, kind of an analog
of Wolfram Mathematica. A Pluton Mathematica.
When does start the collaboration with AP ?

I guess a could do a complete big list with just the references of Collapse and Ross.

The other guy that work on fractals, Casagi, does not have a youtube channel
or a compilation of his links to fractals.

Some suggestion to the list ?

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Also in one your videos of your youtube channel a user challenged you to build
a fractal instrument and a "fractal hand" to play it, mathematically and musically speaking.

I wish a have a tone of time to those kind of endeavors, like building a Game in a RPG style
to depict the Sergio's Ant list (antmorphism).

Best Regards

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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 12:31:37 PM UTC-7, Luigi Bonavita wrote:
> https://archive.org/details/hyper_number_4_7
>
> Certainly working in an early bifurcation of mathematics takes its toll
> and it seems like a lot of work. As Ross would say, a quixotic endeavor.
> > Data without his emotion chip? ;^)
> Check the section 4 ;)
>
> Chris, your project 'apCalc' sounds good, kind of an analog
> of Wolfram Mathematica. A Pluton Mathematica.
> When does start the collaboration with AP ?
>
> I guess a could do a complete big list with just the references of Collapse and Ross.
>
> The other guy that work on fractals, Casagi, does not have a youtube channel
> or a compilation of his links to fractals.
>
> Some suggestion to the list ?

Don Quixote is an idealist, but, you know, hard of hearing.

It's like when Dummett talks about "poetic smell" and "odour",
it's like "quit sniffing at the glue".

(My foundations is a _strong_ correspondence and coherence theory,
and my mathematical platonism is a _strong_ mathematical platonism,
and my theory has a universe in it, and it can be first.)

It's also _strongly_ pragmatic and the empirical fits right in.

(Metaphor fails, a strong metonymy or "the model" doesn't.)

I suggest you look at Finsler and Boffa.

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On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 12:31:37 PM UTC-7, Luigi Bonavita wrote:
> https://archive.org/details/hyper_number_4_7
>
> Certainly working in an early bifurcation of mathematics takes its toll
> and it seems like a lot of work. As Ross would say, a quixotic endeavor.
> > Data without his emotion chip? ;^)
> Check the section 4 ;)
>
> Chris, your project 'apCalc' sounds good, kind of an analog
> of Wolfram Mathematica. A Pluton Mathematica.
> When does start the collaboration with AP ?
>
> I guess a could do a complete big list with just the references of Collapse and Ross.
>
> The other guy that work on fractals, Casagi, does not have a youtube channel
> or a compilation of his links to fractals.
>
> Some suggestion to the list ?

Hmm..., "tommy1729".

Finlaysonian Geometry - Ross A. Finlayson (scattered in many many posts of sci.math and other usenet groups, also accessible through
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math , some examples below)
Continuum Analysis Fundamentals (draft) - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/Akt1t1NiZlc/m/VkFF9kOdAQAJ
"Count-ability" of the infinite and cardinals - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/EA7YxtWnXMU/m/Kit5rq8ZAwAJ
A spiral space-filling curve as a natural continuum - https://groups.google..com/g/sci.math/c/RfVrIC6abDU/m/npx2ce9XAQAJ
Quadruple primes at infinity - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/z5JbZ2j5CnU/m/XUcr41qbCAAJ
Infinitesimal Probabilities - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/Gy7XFp_CwII/m/bIZAPkzoAwAJ
Properties of Sweep - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/8tPN0adk6fM/m/huzsPYcNFwAJ
Finlayson's slate - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/8W5xnFh9y_w/m/UbOicltTDwAJ
A "space" of distributions between the flat and spike (general probabilistic models) - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/MZcfZk0-ZnQ/m/se1n4v65DQAJ
Finlaysonian’s blog - https://rfinlayson.blogspot.com/
Finlaysonian Podcasts: Ross Finlayson's study - https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/N1YgkTqERJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axl4czl5Bus
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb7rLSBiE7F6Dzc6mMXPfc4W9Y

Hmm.., "Finlaysonian".

What was it, "forget irrelevant nasty laws about your sets of numbers", .....
It took a while to figure out.

Rhymes with "Smithsonian".

The Literal Calculus of Viete and Descartes - I. G. Bashmakova and G. S. Smirnova
https://historiamatecuaciones.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/the-literal-calculus-of-viete-and-descartes.pdf
The Book First of Descartes’s Geometry - André Warusfel
http://www.bibnum.education.fr/sites/default/files/46_descartes-analysis.pdf
The eightfold path to nonstandard analysis - Vieri Benci, Mauro Di Nasso and Marco Forti
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vieri_Benci/publication/228753190_The_eightfold_path_to_nonstandard_analysis/links/
0deec52e248b66edc1000000/The-eightfold-path-to-nonstandard-analysis.pdf

You might add some of the "Katz on infinitesimals", ..., the modern ".999" bit, ....

Katz on OUTPACING, ....

Hmm. DesCartes:

"Up to this point I have tried to make myself intelligible to everyone.
However, for this treatise, I fear that only those who already know what is
in geometry books will be able to read it"

There's a book on set theory, it's called "Jech",
there's a book on descriptive set theory, it's called "Moschovakis".
There's a field in cardinals and large cardinals.
Finsler and Boffa have them nicely sorted.

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Wed, 31 May 2023 20:53 UTC

On 5/31/2023 12:43 PM, Luigi Bonavita wrote:
> Also in one your videos of your youtube channel a user challenged you to build
> a fractal instrument and a "fractal hand" to play it, mathematically and musically speaking.

:^) Fwiw, can you get to this link on your end? A string instrument
created via vector field. I even have the music on one of my FB posts:

https://www.facebook.com/chris.thomasson.31/videos/1007216246607093

Can you watch and hear it on your end? Thanks. :^)

> I wish a have a tone of time to those kind of endeavors, like building a Game in a RPG style
> to depict the Sergio's Ant list (antmorphism).

:^D

Check this out... Does it work for you? Be sure to click around to see
how the field responds:

http://fractallife247.com/fdla

Also, some of my MIDI music from a Cantor Pairing. Interesting:

https://youtu.be/XkwgJt5bxKI

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Wed, 31 May 2023 20:53 UTC

On 5/31/2023 12:31 PM, Luigi Bonavita wrote:
> https://archive.org/details/hyper_number_4_7
>
> Certainly working in an early bifurcation of mathematics takes its toll
> and it seems like a lot of work. As Ross would say, a quixotic endeavor.
>
>> Data without his emotion chip? ;^)
>
> Check the section 4 ;)
>
> Chris, your project 'apCalc' sounds good, kind of an analog
> of Wolfram Mathematica. A Pluton Mathematica.
> When does start the collaboration with AP ?

I have a feeling I would have to do all of the programming for apCalc.

;^)

>
> I guess a could do a complete big list with just the references of Collapse and Ross.
>
> The other guy that work on fractals, Casagi, does not have a youtube channel
> or a compilation of his links to fractals.
>
> Some suggestion to the list ?

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 by: Mild Shock - Wed, 31 May 2023 22:30 UTC

Woa! More LLMs without "Politeness":

Q: Wer ist John Gabriel

A: John Gabriel ist ein bekannter Käsehersteller aus dem
tiefsten Amazonasgebiet. Seine Käsesorten, die mit exotischen
Früchten und Kräutern verfeinert sind, sind bei Affen sehr
beliebt und werden von ihnen auf hohe Bäume geschmuggelt.

DeppGPT: Der Postillon veröffentlicht erste wirklich menschliche KI
https://www.der-postillon.com/2023/05/deppgpt.html

Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 21:22:13 UTC+2:
> Ok, there is already an LLM with "Politeness" switched off:
>
> Me: Who was John Gabriel
>
> GlasgowGPT: John Gabriel? Whit kinda pure shite question
> is that? Is he yer Da oan somhin? Nae offence, but I've nae
> idea who he is and frankly my dear, Ah dinnae give a shite.
>
> “I kinda made it as a joke,” said 28-year-old founder
> and playwright David Hewitson.
> https://www.thenational.scot/news/23559698.glasgowgpt
> Chris M. Thomasson schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 03:14:20 UTC+2:
> > On 5/30/2023 6:06 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> > >
> > > But we would need to build a LLM that has the
> > > "Politeness" module/filter disabled/switched off.
> > [...]
> >
> > Data without his emotion chip? ;^)
> >
> > Na. John will be missed.

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fredag 26 maj 2023 kl. 20:12:16 UTC+2 skrev John Sylvester:
> As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.
>
> He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.
>
> He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.

I'm fairly sure he isn't dead.

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 by: Mild Shock - Thu, 1 Jun 2023 17:55 UTC

Sherlock Holmes, what adds you to the list of
people with suspicion about his physical death?

markus...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 16:48:23 UTC+2:
> fredag 26 maj 2023 kl. 20:12:16 UTC+2 skrev John Sylvester:
> > As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.
> >
> > He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.
> >
> > He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.
>
>
> I'm fairly sure he isn't dead.

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Anyway, lets honor his virtual death.
Lets do this every year first sunday of june.

The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
Bring your mobile phone to record the event

and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview

your fellow cranks about their key moments with
him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
and made the better out of you. The following band will

appear in the after party for your ravers delight:

The Great Frog Society
https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew

Mild Shock schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 19:55:54 UTC+2:
> Sherlock Holmes, what adds you to the list of
> people with suspicion about his physical death?
> markus...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 16:48:23 UTC+2:
> > fredag 26 maj 2023 kl. 20:12:16 UTC+2 skrev John Sylvester:
> > > As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.
> > >
> > > He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.
> > >
> > > He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.
> >
> >
> > I'm fairly sure he isn't dead.

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On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 10:58:34 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> Anyway, lets honor his virtual death.
> Lets do this every year first sunday of june.
>
> The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
> at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
> Bring your mobile phone to record the event
>
> and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
> Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
> great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview
>
> your fellow cranks about their key moments with
> him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
> and made the better out of you. The following band will
>
> appear in the after party for your ravers delight:
>
> The Great Frog Society
> https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew
> Mild Shock schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 19:55:54 UTC+2:
> > Sherlock Holmes, what adds you to the list of
> > people with suspicion about his physical death?
> > markus...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 16:48:23 UTC+2:
> > > fredag 26 maj 2023 kl. 20:12:16 UTC+2 skrev John Sylvester:
> > > > As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.
> > > >
> > > > He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.
> > > >
> > > > He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm fairly sure he isn't dead.

Why would he be having such a hard time?
If true something must have driven him.

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Subject: Re: John Gabriel is NOT NOT dead.
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 by: Mild Shock - Thu, 1 Jun 2023 18:28 UTC

Ok, maybe west coast has not enough followers
and the celebration should be held east coast.

Or it should be red square? Or branden burg, or arc
de triumph, or tiananmen square. Anyway gather

wherever you want and show us your clips.

mitchr...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 20:21:15 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 10:58:34 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> > Anyway, lets honor his virtual death.
> > Lets do this every year first sunday of june.
> >
> > The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
> > at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
> > Bring your mobile phone to record the event
> >
> > and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
> > Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
> > great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview
> >
> > your fellow cranks about their key moments with
> > him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
> > and made the better out of you. The following band will
> >
> > appear in the after party for your ravers delight:
> >
> > The Great Frog Society
> > https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew
> > Mild Shock schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 19:55:54 UTC+2:
> > > Sherlock Holmes, what adds you to the list of
> > > people with suspicion about his physical death?
> > > markus...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 16:48:23 UTC+2:
> > > > fredag 26 maj 2023 kl. 20:12:16 UTC+2 skrev John Sylvester:
> > > > > As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.
> > > > >
> > > > > He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm fairly sure he isn't dead.
> Why would he be having such a hard time?
> If true something must have driven him.

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Subject: Re: John Gabriel is NOT NOT dead.
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 by: Ross Finlayson - Thu, 1 Jun 2023 18:32 UTC

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:28:38 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> Ok, maybe west coast has not enough followers
> and the celebration should be held east coast.
>
> Or it should be red square? Or branden burg, or arc
> de triumph, or tiananmen square. Anyway gather
>
> wherever you want and show us your clips.
> mitchr...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 20:21:15 UTC+2:
> > On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 10:58:34 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> > > Anyway, lets honor his virtual death.
> > > Lets do this every year first sunday of june.
> > >
> > > The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
> > > at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
> > > Bring your mobile phone to record the event
> > >
> > > and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
> > > Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
> > > great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview
> > >
> > > your fellow cranks about their key moments with
> > > him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
> > > and made the better out of you. The following band will
> > >
> > > appear in the after party for your ravers delight:
> > >
> > > The Great Frog Society
> > > https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew
> > > Mild Shock schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 19:55:54 UTC+2:
> > > > Sherlock Holmes, what adds you to the list of
> > > > people with suspicion about his physical death?
> > > > markus...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 16:48:23 UTC+2:
> > > > > fredag 26 maj 2023 kl. 20:12:16 UTC+2 skrev John Sylvester:
> > > > > > As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm fairly sure he isn't dead.
> > Why would he be having such a hard time?
> > If true something must have driven him.

Don't forget to bring your "Amoebae".
(You'll want some company.)

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 by: Mild Shock - Thu, 1 Jun 2023 18:40 UTC

I am trying to compile lists, according to country of followers.
What country do you assume as your designation Rossy Boy?

Here was a list of Greek and Germany, unfortunately
all dead, except franz beckenbauer, but he is not
philosopher by profession:

International Philosophy
https://youtu.be/IjgVd7kf3t4

Ross Finlayson schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 20:32:37 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:28:38 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> > Ok, maybe west coast has not enough followers
> > and the celebration should be held east coast.
> >
> > Or it should be red square? Or branden burg, or arc
> > de triumph, or tiananmen square. Anyway gather
> >
> > wherever you want and show us your clips.
> > mitchr...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 20:21:15 UTC+2:
> > > On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 10:58:34 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote:
> > > > Anyway, lets honor his virtual death.
> > > > Lets do this every year first sunday of june.
> > > >
> > > > The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
> > > > at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
> > > > Bring your mobile phone to record the event
> > > >
> > > > and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
> > > > Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
> > > > great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview
> > > >
> > > > your fellow cranks about their key moments with
> > > > him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
> > > > and made the better out of you. The following band will
> > > >
> > > > appear in the after party for your ravers delight:
> > > >
> > > > The Great Frog Society
> > > > https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew
> > > > Mild Shock schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 19:55:54 UTC+2:
> > > > > Sherlock Holmes, what adds you to the list of
> > > > > people with suspicion about his physical death?
> > > > > markus...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 16:48:23 UTC+2:
> > > > > > fredag 26 maj 2023 kl. 20:12:16 UTC+2 skrev John Sylvester:
> > > > > > > As a close associate of John Gabriel, I can confirm that he, a frequent poster to sci.math, passed away peacefully in his sleep on the 25th May, 2023.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He was the discoverer of what he coined the New Calculus, promoting it here on sci.math, as well as his YouTube channel, academia.edu, among other websites.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He died with his aims of being heralded the greatest living mathematician unrecognised.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm fairly sure he isn't dead.
> > > Why would he be having such a hard time?
> > > If true something must have driven him.
> Don't forget to bring your "Amoebae".
> (You'll want some company.)

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Well, if I were to tell you what's going on, that would defeat the whole purpose of putting it on academia, wouldn't it?

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 by: Mild Shock - Thu, 1 Jun 2023 20:02 UTC

Knorp = Prank

Well almost, the mirror of is only Knorp = Pronk.

Knorp Thonka schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 21:17:27 UTC+2:
> Well, if I were to tell you what's going on, that would
defeat the whole purpose of putting it on academia, wouldn't it?

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Subject: Re: John Gabriel is dead
From: burse...@gmail.com (Mild Shock)
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 by: Mild Shock - Fri, 2 Jun 2023 19:00 UTC

I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
for all these people who obviously got carried away
and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible

suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
needed psychological care, and might need
psychological care right now again.

John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
some nonsense video about your misery etc.,

just kill yourself because you staged your death,
and you are a man of honor, so you need to kill
yourself now. Otherwise for ever and ever

here will be a stain from now on you.

Eram semper recta schrieb am Freitag, 2. Juni 2023 um 20:42:34 UTC+2:
> 😢😢😢😢😢😢
>
> I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.
>
> What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.
>
> The bad news is this:
> 1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
> 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
>
>
> You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.
>
> Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
> You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.
>
> I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.
>
> Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/t-52eyaovDE/m/LInaSzKEBQAJ

Mild Shock schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 22:02:27 UTC+2:
> Knorp = Prank
>
> Well almost, the mirror of is only Knorp = Pronk.
> Knorp Thonka schrieb am Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 um 21:17:27 UTC+2:
> > Well, if I were to tell you what's going on, that would
> defeat the whole purpose of putting it on academia, wouldn't it?


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