On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

>Randy333 <rbraun333@enter.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe
>>>1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking
>>>about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug
>>>it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene
>>>torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of
>>>cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it
>>>takes as while to get all the dust off.
>>>
>>
>> Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice.
>
>What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at
>oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and
>also has a fairly low melting temp as well.

Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe
2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it
can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out
there.

Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F.
you need the work peice red hot.

99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for
TIG or stick welding.

Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15
It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium

Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need
flux to braze.

I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything.
It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding
store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have.

Randy

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Randy

Randy333 <rbraun333@enter.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>
>>Randy333 <rbraun333@enter.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>>> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe
>>>>1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking
>>>>about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug
>>>>it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene
>>>>torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of
>>>>cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it
>>>>takes as while to get all the dust off.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice.
>>
>>What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at
>>oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and
>>also has a fairly low melting temp as well.
>
>
> Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe
> 2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it
> can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out
> there.

This where I get lots. There doesn't seem to be a real standard to declare
what solder is, and sometimes the ingredients are just not listed. I have
some 5% silver solder for example. the other 95% is a mystery, it just
doesn't say.
> Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F.
> you need the work peice red hot.

Is this the same, similar to the flat HVAC brazing rods?

> 99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for
> TIG or stick welding.
>
> Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15
> It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium

$50/oz? How good/pretty is this stuff on stainless?

> Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need
> flux to braze.
>
> I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything.
> It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding
> store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have.

Yeah, that's just robbery on gasses. The fees here seem pretty random. The
state of Il is somehow really scared of bronze for some reason.

On Thu, 6 May 2021 21:22:02 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote as underneath :

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>
>This where I get lots. There doesn't seem to be a real standard to declare
>what solder is, and sometimes the ingredients are just not listed. I have
>some 5% silver solder for example. the other 95% is a mystery, it just
>doesn't say.

Thats still soft solder not silver solder (hard solder) - the other
ingredients are probably Sn 94.5%, Cu 0.5%.
In your application I would probably rout out the hole walls to slight
negative angle with a ball diamond burr then just bang in some nickel
with hammer and punch, dress it flat, done properly that would last you
for ever! C+

On Thu, 6 May 2021 21:22:02 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

>Randy333 <rbraun333@enter.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Randy333 <rbraun333@enter.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>>>> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe
>>>>>1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking
>>>>>about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug
>>>>>it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene
>>>>>torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of
>>>>>cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it
>>>>>takes as while to get all the dust off.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice.
>>>
>>>What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at
>>>oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and
>>>also has a fairly low melting temp as well.
>>
>>
>> Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe
>> 2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it
>> can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out
>> there.
>
>This where I get lots. There doesn't seem to be a real standard to declare
>what solder is, and sometimes the ingredients are just not listed. I have
>some 5% silver solder for example. the other 95% is a mystery, it just
>doesn't say.
>
>> Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F.
>> you need the work peice red hot.
>
>Is this the same, similar to the flat HVAC brazing rods?

I have some flat brazing rods for HVAC work that do not need any flux
on copper. The Silver stuff I have is round.
>
>> 99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for
>> TIG or stick welding.
>>
>> Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15
>> It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium
>
>$50/oz? How good/pretty is this stuff on stainless?

Depends on how good you are with flux and a torch. Pricey, yes. but
you don't need much. A 1 OZ roll lasts me awhile.

>
>> Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need
>> flux to braze.
>>
>> I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything.
>> It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding
>> store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have.
>
>Yeah, that's just robbery on gasses. The fees here seem pretty random. The
>state of Il is somehow really scared of bronze for some reason.
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Randy

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 5:22:06 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> Randy333 <rbra...@enter.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
> > <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Randy333 <rbra...@enter.net> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
> >>> <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe
> >>>>1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking
> >>>>about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug
> >>>>it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene
> >>>>torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of
> >>>>cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it
> >>>>takes as while to get all the dust off.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice.
> >>
> >>What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at
> >>oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and
> >>also has a fairly low melting temp as well.
> >
> >
> > Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe
> > 2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it
> > can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out
> > there.
> This where I get lots. There doesn't seem to be a real standard to declare
> what solder is, and sometimes the ingredients are just not listed. I have
> some 5% silver solder for example. the other 95% is a mystery, it just
> doesn't say.
> > Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F.
> > you need the work peice red hot.
> Is this the same, similar to the flat HVAC brazing rods?
> > 99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for
> > TIG or stick welding.
> >
> > Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15
> > It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium
> $50/oz? How good/pretty is this stuff on stainless?
> > Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need
> > flux to braze.
> >
> > I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything.
> > It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding
> > store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have.
> Yeah, that's just robbery on gasses. The fees here seem pretty random. The
> state of Il is somehow really scared of bronze for some reason.

$ 180 bucks or so can get you an Oxy-Acetylene torch. I don't know if its used or not.

bruce bowser <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 5:22:06 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> Randy333 <rbra...@enter.net> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:11:04 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>> > <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Randy333 <rbra...@enter.net> wrote:
>> >>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>> >>> <pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Got a I suspect new-ish Lodge cast iron skillet with a small void, maybe
>> >>>>1/16" in diamter. What's the laziest way to fill this in? I'm thinking
>> >>>>about just peening in some soft steel wire or copper in there to just plug
>> >>>>it. burned up oil will coat in in the end. Have access to an oxyacetylene
>> >>>>torch and pickup any sort of rod being sold. Not really sure what type of
>> >>>>cast iron us used in these. It makes black dust if you grind it and it
>> >>>>takes as while to get all the dust off.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Cadmium free silver solder would be my first choice.
>> >>
>> >>What type of silver solder? It looks like plumbing solder might melt at
>> >>oven temperatures. The rest of the stuff I have is electronic grade, and
>> >>also has a fairly low melting temp as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > Plumbing solder that is lead free has a small amount of silver maybe
>> > 2%, that's not what you want. Not all lead free solder has silver, it
>> > can be made without it. There are a bunch of different alloys out
>> > there.
>> This where I get lots. There doesn't seem to be a real standard to declare
>> what solder is, and sometimes the ingredients are just not listed. I have
>> some 5% silver solder for example. the other 95% is a mystery, it just
>> doesn't say.
>> > Real silver solder is a brazing alloy. They melt at over 1000 deg F.
>> > you need the work peice red hot.
>> Is this the same, similar to the flat HVAC brazing rods?
>> > 99% nickel alloy is used to weld cast iron, they have 99% Ni rod for
>> > TIG or stick welding.
>> >
>> > Look at McMaster-Carr # 7761A15
>> > It's 45% Silver, 30% copper, 25% Zinc, NO lead or Cadmium
>> $50/oz? How good/pretty is this stuff on stainless?
>> > Spot drill and then fill in the dimple might work best. You will need
>> > flux to braze.
>> >
>> > I get a HAZMAT fee on argon and nitrogen, they put that on everything.
>> > It's just a scam to get an extra $8.00 everytime I go to the welding
>> > store. Read the MSDS to see what you actually have.
>> Yeah, that's just robbery on gasses. The fees here seem pretty random. The
>> state of Il is somehow really scared of bronze for some reason.
>
> $ 180 bucks or so can get you an Oxy-Acetylene torch. I don't know if its used or not.

My first full size oxy-acetylene torch was $2 at a garage sale. It's
Crasftman branded buy probably from victor. It had the cutting attachment
and one normal torch head. Didn't even need new gaskets. Did get a new
cutting attachment nozzle, so that was like $17.

I'm guessing the seller just wanted a home for it. I like that it has a
patina already and doesn't make your hands smell like shit.