On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:31:14 AM UTC-4, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 12:09:43 PM UTC-4, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 11:18:38 AM UTC-4, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I have a strategy that works for me but might not for you. After about 20 years at 185 I decided to weigh less, and now I've been 135 for several years. (Height of 5'10".) There's not a lot of effort into maintaining it..
> > >
> > > But, a story. Years ago, before i lost the weight, I weighed myself and did some math. I announced to the family that i'd lost 1/4 pound, and would be at my goal weight in 12 years. One of my daughters said immediately "that's wrong." " You don't have a trend, you have a single event, you cannot predict from a single event."
> > >
> > > Hate having smart kids.
> > 5'10 and 135 seems a bit _too_ thin depending on your body type - probably ok for a sedentary ectopmorph. I'm 5'9 and when at my most fit tend to be in the low 140's. I am an ectomorph, and when not running or riding I tend to focus on core and leg strength. I don't do much for upper body development other then stretching and toning - big biceps don't help much for running and riding competitively. Still, I think 135 would be unhealthy for me..
> >
> > Kudo's on having smart kids :) - they help keep us on our toes!
> Well, here's the thing. I'm 69. As we age it becomes harder and harder to maintain muscle mass. I did an experiment a few years back trying various weightlifting programs, each for 10 weeks, and keeping careful records, and my strength didn't improve, whereas as a younger man I had made good progress. At work I had access to a BodPod and could accurately determine percentages of fat vs other. So I decided that as I aged the only way to maintain a good balance was to reduce the fat content. At 131 I finally made it into the "lean" category but my last test at 135 showed me the next category up.

I was pushing 160 a few years ago (when I was 57), and my riding/running volumes - both aerobic and anaerobic - hadn't change all that much from the previous years. when I was able to keep it easily into the low 140s. I cut out dairy and a significant amount of carbohydrates and lost ten pounds in two months. Last summer I dipped below 140 a few times, this past weekend after a 2 1/4 hour MTB ride I weighed in at 142.

https://www.strava.com/activities/6955181266

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:29:31 PM UTC-4, Roger Merriman wrote:
> Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On 4/12/2022 12:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> I don't do much for upper body development other then stretching and
> >> toning - big biceps don't help much for running and riding competitively.
> >
> > I agree about the running and riding. I think it was Greg LeMond who
> > said a bike racer should have an upper body like a 12 year old girl's.
> >
> > But I lift to maintain at least some upper body strength. For one thing,
> > it's necessary for getting our tandem up on the roof rack!
> I’m a MTB/Gravel hence upper body strength is handy, I’m noted in the club
> for any hike a bike, having the strength to lift one handed bikes over
> fallen trees, etc. I could do with loosing some weight but realistically
> with my body build at 6ft I’d be too thin below 190lb though could do with
> loosing a touch to be honest.
> >
> >> Kudo's on having smart kids :) - they help keep us on our toes!
> >
> > Yes! And ditto for smart grandkids, as in our case.
> >
> Roger Merriman

Christian Vandevelde is 5'11" and weighed ~ 150 during his prime. Depending on your body type 170 probably wouldn't be too bad, but it all depends on your physiology. I've had many discussions with people about weight control over the years. MY go-to point is always that your body has a spot where it wants to be. Your emotions might be trying to convince you that you're overweight, but if where you end up with a sensible diet and regular exercise is carrying some extra weight, it's probably not a bad thing.

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:31:14 AM UTC-4, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 12:09:43 PM UTC-4, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 11:18:38 AM UTC-4, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I have a strategy that works for me but might not for you. After about 20 years at 185 I decided to weigh less, and now I've been 135 for several years. (Height of 5'10".) There's not a lot of effort into maintaining it..
> > >
> > > But, a story. Years ago, before i lost the weight, I weighed myself and did some math. I announced to the family that i'd lost 1/4 pound, and would be at my goal weight in 12 years. One of my daughters said immediately "that's wrong." " You don't have a trend, you have a single event, you cannot predict from a single event."
> > >
> > > Hate having smart kids.
> > 5'10 and 135 seems a bit _too_ thin depending on your body type - probably ok for a sedentary ectopmorph. I'm 5'9 and when at my most fit tend to be in the low 140's. I am an ectomorph, and when not running or riding I tend to focus on core and leg strength. I don't do much for upper body development other then stretching and toning - big biceps don't help much for running and riding competitively. Still, I think 135 would be unhealthy for me..
> >
> > Kudo's on having smart kids :) - they help keep us on our toes!
> Well, here's the thing. I'm 69. As we age it becomes harder and harder to maintain muscle mass. I did an experiment a few years back trying various weightlifting programs, each for 10 weeks, and keeping careful records, and my strength didn't improve, whereas as a younger man I had made good progress. At work I had access to a BodPod and could accurately determine percentages of fat vs other. So I decided that as I aged the only way to maintain a good balance was to reduce the fat content. At 131 I finally made it into the "lean" category but my last test at 135 showed me the next category up.

I was pushing 160 a few years ago (when I was 57), and my riding/running volumes - both aerobic and anaerobic - hadn't change all that much from the previous years when I was able to keep it easily into the low 140s. I cut out dairy and a significant amount of carbohydrates and lost ten pounds in two months - this was at the end of the season when my riding volume was tapering significantly. Last summer I dipped below 140 a few times, this past weekend after a 2 1/4 hour MTB ride I weighed in at 142.

https://www.strava.com/activities/6955181266

funkma...@hotmail.com <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 2:29:31 PM UTC-4, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2022 12:09 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> I don't do much for upper body development other then stretching and
>>>> toning - big biceps don't help much for running and riding competitively.
>>>
>>> I agree about the running and riding. I think it was Greg LeMond who
>>> said a bike racer should have an upper body like a 12 year old girl's.
>>>
>>> But I lift to maintain at least some upper body strength. For one thing,
>>> it's necessary for getting our tandem up on the roof rack!
>> I’m a MTB/Gravel hence upper body strength is handy, I’m noted in the club
>> for any hike a bike, having the strength to lift one handed bikes over
>> fallen trees, etc. I could do with loosing some weight but realistically
>> with my body build at 6ft I’d be too thin below 190lb though could do with
>> loosing a touch to be honest.
>>>
>>>> Kudo's on having smart kids :) - they help keep us on our toes!
>>>
>>> Yes! And ditto for smart grandkids, as in our case.
>>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> Christian Vandevelde is 5'11" and weighed ~ 150 during his prime.
> Depending on your body type 170 probably wouldn't be too bad, but it all
> depends on your physiology. I've had many discussions with people about
> weight control over the years. MY go-to point is always that your body
> has a spot where it wants to be. Your emotions might be trying to
> convince you that you're overweight, but if where you end up with a
> sensible diet and regular exercise is carrying some extra weight, it's
> probably not a bad thing.
>
It’s more my trousers than emotions to be honest!

Roger Merriman.