On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 1:01:35 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist.

If you want to debate or dispute something I've said, first acquire the intelligence and balls to specifically
quote my statements. Don't be vague, don't debate what you _wish_ or _pretend_ I said. Straw man arguments
are dishonest and cowardly.

And for God's sake, don't trust your "memory." You've proven countless times that your memory is worthless.

Finally, I very much doubt you have any clear idea what "socialism" really is. For you, like most low-IQ Trumpsters,
the word is just a trigger.

- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:06:54 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
> A couple of interesting things from this thread:

If you find something interesting, it's likely of no interest to anyone else.

>
> 1. Nobody wants to defend Poor President Biden, not even the greenies.

Biden needs no defending. Especially from flaccid right wing snowflakes like you.
>
> 2. The usual little wankers have altogether bypassed the serious damage Ocasio-Cortez and Biden are doing to the entire world,

Fixing the damage from the MAGAtard neo-fascists

> to argue about irrelevant details and typos, charging hard to prove Tom wrong, no matter how small the matter, mutter mutter mutter under their breaths in their obsession with proving themselves superior to Tom. I wonder if they ever wonder why it should be necessary to prove themselves superior to Tom, what years of fruitless effort says to the rest of the world about their self-images.

Wonder what ever you want, we don't care.

>
> 3. If you wonder why RBT shrinks while my supposedly much smaller niche for writers has rising thirty thousand members and turns away more unsuitable applicants twice a day than RBT has active members, wonder no more. The pettyfogging hairsplitting nastiness in this thread is all the evidence required to point fingers at RBT contributors by name.

Sure, your fictional writets forum with 30K members. What was that URL again? Oh, right, it only exists in your imagination.

>
> 4. Yesterday’s greenies, having screwed up almost free energy, and everything that followed from it, and having killed hundreds of millions of trees and ditto of birds, are now all hung-ho for nuclear power. What a turnabout! What a bunch of hypocritical clowns.

Name one environmentalist organization in favor of nuclear power. ( Talk about your hypocrites...)

>
> Andre Jute
> Just thought I’d mention these few points.

fuck off.

On Thu, 5 May 2022 15:18:25 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 1:01:35 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist.
>
>If you want to debate or dispute something I've said, first acquire the intelligence and balls to specifically
>quote my statements. Don't be vague, don't debate what you _wish_ or _pretend_ I said. Straw man arguments
>are dishonest and cowardly.
>
>And for God's sake, don't trust your "memory." You've proven countless times that your memory is worthless.
>
>Finally, I very much doubt you have any clear idea what "socialism" really is. For you, like most low-IQ Trumpsters,
>the word is just a trigger.
>
>- Frank Krygowski

Well, Tommy is a recipient of Social Security so he should know (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:01:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
>> >
>> > Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist". I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.

Tommy, your knowledge of communism, or anything else is, well, less
then perfect.

The name of what you refer to as Russia was "the Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics", the USSR.

But, perhaps more to the point, is someone living on the government
dole, referred to as "Social Security" in the U.S., in a position to
complain about socialism?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 5/5/2022 4:06 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> A couple of interesting things from this thread:
>
> 1. Nobody wants to defend Poor President Biden, not even the greenies.
>
> 2. The usual little wankers have altogether bypassed the serious damage Ocasio-Cortez and Biden are doing to the entire world, to argue about irrelevant details and typos, charging hard to prove Tom wrong, no matter how small the matter, mutter mutter mutter under their breaths in their obsession with proving themselves superior to Tom. I wonder if they ever wonder why it should be necessary to prove themselves superior to Tom, what years of fruitless effort says to the rest of the world about their self-images.
>
> 3. If you wonder why RBT shrinks while my supposedly much smaller niche for writers has rising thirty thousand members and turns away more unsuitable applicants twice a day than RBT has active members, wonder no more. The pettyfogging hairsplitting nastiness in this thread is all the evidence required to point fingers at RBT contributors by name.
>
> 4. Yesterday’s greenies, having screwed up almost free energy, and everything that followed from it, and having killed hundreds of millions of trees and ditto of birds, are now all hung-ho for nuclear power. What a turnabout! What a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
>
> Andre Jute
> Just thought I’d mention these few points.
>

Some people think he's just fine:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

Which brings a question. Who are these people and what's
wrong with them?

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 3:01:35 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
> > >
> > > Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > It’s like, you know, the other communism…
> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist". I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.

Says the guy collecting Social Security and Medicare. And driving to Reno Nevada to get married or remarried or divorced or something on roads paid for by someone else's federal and state income taxes or gas taxes.

On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
>> > funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
>> > >
>> > > Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > It’s like, you know, the other communism…
>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
>
>Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
>
>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
>
>Said the guy living off SSI.....

The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
and Medicaid.

The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 5/5/2022 1:25 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/5/2022 2:24 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of
>>> communism.
>>
>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
>>
>>
>
> Their self-identity as 'progressive' maybe?

No, the alter of communism would be capitalism.

But the poster was commenting on Tom's use of "alter" when he probably
meant "altar."

On 5/5/2022 7:06 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
>>>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
>>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
>>
>> Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
>>
>>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
>>
>> Said the guy living off SSI.....
>
> The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
> of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
> Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
> and Medicaid.
>
> The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
> everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
>

Words matter.
The only Constitutionally mandated expense is defense.

Calling 'discretionary' expenses 'mandatory' is useful in
political terms but not actually true.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 05 May 2022 19:37:47 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 5/5/2022 7:06 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
>>>>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
>>>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
>>>
>>> Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
>>>
>>>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
>>>
>>> Said the guy living off SSI.....
>>
>> The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
>> of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
>> Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
>> and Medicaid.
>>
>> The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
>> everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
>>
>
>Words matter.
>The only Constitutionally mandated expense is defense.
>
>Calling 'discretionary' expenses 'mandatory' is useful in
>political terms but not actually true.

I believe that the actual wording of the Constitution is
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties,
Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common
Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties,
Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United State"

Note the words "general Welfare".

and it also says
"To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying
into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by
this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any
Department or Officer thereof."

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:06:54 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> A couple of interesting things from this thread:
>
> 1. Nobody wants to defend Poor President Biden, not even the greenies.
>
> 2. The usual little wankers have altogether bypassed the serious damage Ocasio-Cortez and Biden are doing to the entire world, to argue about irrelevant details and typos, charging hard to prove Tom wrong, no matter how small the matter, mutter mutter mutter under their breaths in their obsession with proving themselves superior to Tom. I wonder if they ever wonder why it should be necessary to prove themselves superior to Tom, what years of fruitless effort says to the rest of the world about their self-images.
>
> 3. If you wonder why RBT shrinks while my supposedly much smaller niche for writers has rising thirty thousand members and turns away more unsuitable applicants twice a day than RBT has active members, wonder no more. The pettyfogging hairsplitting nastiness in this thread is all the evidence required to point fingers at RBT contributors by name.
>
> 4. Yesterday’s greenies, having screwed up almost free energy, and everything that followed from it, and having killed hundreds of millions of trees and ditto of birds, are now all hung-ho for nuclear power. What a turnabout! What a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
>
> Andre Jute
> Just thought I’d mention these few points.
Can you believe that Biden is ACTUALLY trying to get us into a nuclear war with China and Russia and some diddly stinking coward who is afraid to use his real name is complaining about a typo? This might be the very first time in history when the Russian leaders are smarter than American Presidents and these feckless knuckleheads believe that a typo is important. The mental illness of people like the luckless 5 is demonstrative of the left in every deviation from normal.

On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/5/2022 7:06 PM, John B. wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> >>>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
> >>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
> >>
> >> Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
> >>
> >>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
> >>
> >> Said the guy living off SSI.....
> >
> > The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
> > of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
> > Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
> > and Medicaid.
> >
> > The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
> > everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
> >
> Words matter.
> The only Constitutionally mandated expense is defense.
>
> Calling 'discretionary' expenses 'mandatory' is useful in
> political terms but not actually true.

Well, it isn't discretionary when it is payment on borrowed money. I see that flunky is telling us that he isn't going to draw social security when he retires. After all, he is willing to throw money that he earned away by referring to it as public money.

On 5/6/2022 12:16 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> I see that flunky is telling us that he isn't going to draw social security when he retires.

Tom lacks the honesty to discuss what people have actually said. He
prefers to argue against what he imagines or pretends they say.

Straw man argument techniques are cheap, dishonest and cowardly.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 5/6/2022 11:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/5/2022 7:06 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
>>>>>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
>>>>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
>>>>
>>>>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
>>>>
>>>> Said the guy living off SSI.....
>>>
>>> The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
>>> of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
>>> Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
>>> and Medicaid.
>>>
>>> The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
>>> everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
>>>
>> Words matter.
>> The only Constitutionally mandated expense is defense.
>>
>> Calling 'discretionary' expenses 'mandatory' is useful in
>> political terms but not actually true.
>
> Well, it isn't discretionary when it is payment on borrowed money. I see that flunky is telling us that he isn't going to draw social security when he retires. After all, he is willing to throw money that he earned away by referring to it as public money.
>

Argentina defaults regularly. As have Mexico and Russia in
recent memory. Now that we are of their ilk, that can (and
likely will) happen here.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:10:26 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/5/2022 4:06 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > A couple of interesting things from this thread:
> >
> > 1. Nobody wants to defend Poor President Biden, not even the greenies.
> >
> > 2. The usual little wankers have altogether bypassed the serious damage Ocasio-Cortez and Biden are doing to the entire world, to argue about irrelevant details and typos, charging hard to prove Tom wrong, no matter how small the matter, mutter mutter mutter under their breaths in their obsession with proving themselves superior to Tom. I wonder if they ever wonder why it should be necessary to prove themselves superior to Tom, what years of fruitless effort says to the rest of the world about their self-images.
> >
> > 3. If you wonder why RBT shrinks while my supposedly much smaller niche for writers has rising thirty thousand members and turns away more unsuitable applicants twice a day than RBT has active members, wonder no more. The pettyfogging hairsplitting nastiness in this thread is all the evidence required to point fingers at RBT contributors by name.
> >
> > 4. Yesterday’s greenies, having screwed up almost free energy, and everything that followed from it, and having killed hundreds of millions of trees and ditto of birds, are now all hung-ho for nuclear power. What a turnabout! What a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > Just thought I’d mention these few points.
> >
>
> Some people think he's just fine:
> https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
>
> Which brings a question. Who are these people and what's
> wrong with them?
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
Monkeys: see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, at least about fellow members of the Donkey Party. But there are some, even left wingers, for whom the Dunces in the Donkey Party are just too much. See:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2022/05/05/pro-abortion-commentator-torches-democrats-for-not-protecting-roe-v-wade-n2606821
As usual the loudest of the RBT Donkey Party Dunces will lag behind the mainstream while they try to bully Tom with yesterday’s news.
>
Andre Jute
I love American election years: so much free entertainment!

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 5:47:55 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 11:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 5/5/2022 7:06 PM, John B. wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> >>>>>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
> >>>>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
> >>>>
> >>>> Said the guy living off SSI.....
> >>>
> >>> The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
> >>> of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
> >>> Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
> >>> and Medicaid.
> >>>
> >>> The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
> >>> everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
> >>>
> >> Words matter.
> >> The only Constitutionally mandated expense is defense.
> >>
> >> Calling 'discretionary' expenses 'mandatory' is useful in
> >> political terms but not actually true.
> >
> > Well, it isn't discretionary when it is payment on borrowed money. I see that flunky is telling us that he isn't going to draw social security when he retires. After all, he is willing to throw money that he earned away by referring to it as public money.
> >
> Argentina defaults regularly. As have Mexico and Russia in
> recent memory. Now that we are of their ilk, that can (and
> likely will) happen here.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
The United States defaulting will be no joke. It won’t be a small ripple through the institutions, it will be a tsunami lasting years, perhaps decades. Unless you’re a specialist, you simply cannot believe how intricately the world economy is tied to the dollar. What you’re about will cause heathen Chinese suddenly to discover prayer, because the pain will be universal.
>
Andre Jute
Professional opinion.

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 4:51:44 PM UTC+1, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:06:54 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > A couple of interesting things from this thread:
> >
> > 1. Nobody wants to defend Poor President Biden, not even the greenies.
> >
> > 2. The usual little wankers have altogether bypassed the serious damage Ocasio-Cortez and Biden are doing to the entire world, to argue about irrelevant details and typos, charging hard to prove Tom wrong, no matter how small the matter, mutter mutter mutter under their breaths in their obsession with proving themselves superior to Tom. I wonder if they ever wonder why it should be necessary to prove themselves superior to Tom, what years of fruitless effort says to the rest of the world about their self-images.
> >
> > 3. If you wonder why RBT shrinks while my supposedly much smaller niche for writers has rising thirty thousand members and turns away more unsuitable applicants twice a day than RBT has active members, wonder no more. The pettyfogging hairsplitting nastiness in this thread is all the evidence required to point fingers at RBT contributors by name.
> >
> > 4. Yesterday’s greenies, having screwed up almost free energy, and everything that followed from it, and having killed hundreds of millions of trees and ditto of birds, are now all hung-ho for nuclear power. What a turnabout! What a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > Just thought I’d mention these few points.
> Can you believe that Biden is ACTUALLY trying to get us into a nuclear war with China and Russia and some diddly stinking coward who is afraid to use his real name is complaining about a typo? This might be the very first time in history when the Russian leaders are smarter than American Presidents and these feckless knuckleheads believe that a typo is important. The mental illness of people like the luckless 5 is demonstrative of the left in every deviation from normal.
>
When I run up against people whose primary concern is to maintain their dignity, I know them for fools. Three of those five fools have had to make the humiliating public statement that they don’t read my posts because they have no answers. They were petty nobodies whose only profile was on the net even before the far left of the Donkey Party drove them crazy with crap like men supposedly being capable of giving birth and menstruating. They were always stupid, and now they’re old. I think it is idle to hope that they will ever answer to reason and common sense again. They’ve been driven nuts for good. — AJ
>

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 9:47:55 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 11:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 5/5/2022 7:06 PM, John B. wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> >>>>>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
> >>>>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
> >>>>
> >>>> Said the guy living off SSI.....
> >>>
> >>> The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
> >>> of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
> >>> Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
> >>> and Medicaid.
> >>>
> >>> The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
> >>> everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
> >>>
> >> Words matter.
> >> The only Constitutionally mandated expense is defense.
> >>
> >> Calling 'discretionary' expenses 'mandatory' is useful in
> >> political terms but not actually true.
> >
> > Well, it isn't discretionary when it is payment on borrowed money. I see that flunky is telling us that he isn't going to draw social security when he retires. After all, he is willing to throw money that he earned away by referring to it as public money.
> >
> Argentina defaults regularly. As have Mexico and Russia in
> recent memory. Now that we are of their ilk, that can (and
> likely will) happen here.

Well, think of this - both partied voted for SS during the last days of FDR.. So I would expect all of them to support social security rather than be blamed for its failure.

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:31:17 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 4:51:44 PM UTC+1, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:06:54 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > A couple of interesting things from this thread:
> > >
> > > 1. Nobody wants to defend Poor President Biden, not even the greenies..
> > >
> > > 2. The usual little wankers have altogether bypassed the serious damage Ocasio-Cortez and Biden are doing to the entire world, to argue about irrelevant details and typos, charging hard to prove Tom wrong, no matter how small the matter, mutter mutter mutter under their breaths in their obsession with proving themselves superior to Tom. I wonder if they ever wonder why it should be necessary to prove themselves superior to Tom, what years of fruitless effort says to the rest of the world about their self-images.
> > >
> > > 3. If you wonder why RBT shrinks while my supposedly much smaller niche for writers has rising thirty thousand members and turns away more unsuitable applicants twice a day than RBT has active members, wonder no more. The pettyfogging hairsplitting nastiness in this thread is all the evidence required to point fingers at RBT contributors by name.
> > >
> > > 4. Yesterday’s greenies, having screwed up almost free energy, and everything that followed from it, and having killed hundreds of millions of trees and ditto of birds, are now all hung-ho for nuclear power. What a turnabout! What a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
> > >
> > > Andre Jute
> > > Just thought I’d mention these few points.
> > Can you believe that Biden is ACTUALLY trying to get us into a nuclear war with China and Russia and some diddly stinking coward who is afraid to use his real name is complaining about a typo? This might be the very first time in history when the Russian leaders are smarter than American Presidents and these feckless knuckleheads believe that a typo is important. The mental illness of people like the luckless 5 is demonstrative of the left in every deviation from normal.
> >
> When I run up against people whose primary concern is to maintain their dignity, I know them for fools. Three of those five fools have had to make the humiliating public statement that they don’t read my posts because they have no answers. They were petty nobodies whose only profile was on the net even before the far left of the Donkey Party drove them crazy with crap like men supposedly being capable of giving birth and menstruating. They were always stupid, and now they’re old. I think it is idle to hope that they will ever answer to reason and common sense again. They’ve been driven nuts for good. — AJ

With age generally comes wisdom but these people seem to be an exception.

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:16:12 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 5/5/2022 7:06 PM, John B. wrote:
> > > On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > > <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > >>>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
> > >>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
> > >>
> > >>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
> > >>
> > >> Said the guy living off SSI.....
> > >
> > > The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
> > > of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
> > > Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
> > > and Medicaid.
> > >
> > > The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
> > > everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
> > >
> > Words matter.
> > The only Constitutionally mandated expense is defense.
> >
> > Calling 'discretionary' expenses 'mandatory' is useful in
> > political terms but not actually true.
>
> I see that flunky is telling us that he isn't going to draw social security when he retires.

I did?

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:28:48 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 12:16 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > I see that flunky is telling us that he isn't going to draw social security when he retires.
> Tom lacks the honesty to discuss what people have actually said. He
> prefers to argue against what he imagines or pretends they say.
>
> Straw man argument techniques are cheap, dishonest and cowardly.
>

He must have got that idea from the same place he came up with your alter to communism

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 11:51:44 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:06:54 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > A couple of interesting things from this thread:
> >
> > 1. Nobody wants to defend Poor President Biden, not even the greenies.
> >
> > 2. The usual little wankers have altogether bypassed the serious damage Ocasio-Cortez and Biden are doing to the entire world, to argue about irrelevant details and typos, charging hard to prove Tom wrong, no matter how small the matter, mutter mutter mutter under their breaths in their obsession with proving themselves superior to Tom. I wonder if they ever wonder why it should be necessary to prove themselves superior to Tom, what years of fruitless effort says to the rest of the world about their self-images.
> >
> > 3. If you wonder why RBT shrinks while my supposedly much smaller niche for writers has rising thirty thousand members and turns away more unsuitable applicants twice a day than RBT has active members, wonder no more. The pettyfogging hairsplitting nastiness in this thread is all the evidence required to point fingers at RBT contributors by name.
> >
> > 4. Yesterday’s greenies, having screwed up almost free energy, and everything that followed from it, and having killed hundreds of millions of trees and ditto of birds, are now all hung-ho for nuclear power. What a turnabout! What a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > Just thought I’d mention these few points.
>
> Can you believe that Biden is ACTUALLY trying to get us into a nuclear war with China and Russia

Sure he is...lol....

> and some diddly stinking coward who is afraid to use his real name is complaining about a typo?

I'm not complaining at all, sparky, I find you very entertain. Abjectly stupid, but entertaining nonethless.

> This might be the very first time in history when the Russian leaders are smarter than American Presidents

Nope, that happened for the first time in 2000 when Bush the Lesser was handed victory, then again in 2016 when The Turd Gilder was elected. Putin's no genius, but the last best chance the American Conservatives had for any semblance of American Exceptionalism evaporated when the GOP saddled poor John McCain with Caribou Barbie.

> and these feckless knuckleheads believe that a typo is important.

It isn't, but no one is going to solve the problems of the world in this forum, especially when we have the consistent barrage of idiocy, hypocrisy, and lies from you and your sphincter licker. So why not have a little fun at your expense? Light Lines, anyone?

> The mental illness of people like the luckless 5 is demonstrative of the left in every deviation from normal.

but "tommy does science!"

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> Monkeys: see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, at least about fellow members of the Donkey Party. But there are some, even left wingers, for whom the Dunces in the Donkey Party are just too much. See:
> https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2022/05/05/pro-abortion-commentator-torches-democrats-for-not-protecting-roe-v-wade-n2606821
> As usual the loudest of the RBT Donkey Party Dunces will lag behind the mainstream while they try to bully Tom with yesterday’s news.
> >

Dumb and Dumber: see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, at least about fellow members of the GQP. But there are some, even right wingers, for whom the Dunces in the GQP are just too much. See:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/adam-kinzinger-marjorie-taylor-greene-victim_n_626f21b9e4b04a9ff89d48d4

As usual the loudest of the RBT QGP Dunces will lag behind the mainstream while they try to bully Frank, SMS, Lieberman, Russel, and Funkmaster with more lies, hypocrisy, and strawmen.

> Andre Jute
> making up grand stories about myself for over 50 years

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 1:54:55 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:31:17 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 4:51:44 PM UTC+1, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:06:54 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > > A couple of interesting things from this thread:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Nobody wants to defend Poor President Biden, not even the greenies.
> > > >
> > > > 2. The usual little wankers have altogether bypassed the serious damage Ocasio-Cortez and Biden are doing to the entire world, to argue about irrelevant details and typos, charging hard to prove Tom wrong, no matter how small the matter, mutter mutter mutter under their breaths in their obsession with proving themselves superior to Tom. I wonder if they ever wonder why it should be necessary to prove themselves superior to Tom, what years of fruitless effort says to the rest of the world about their self-images.
> > > >
> > > > 3. If you wonder why RBT shrinks while my supposedly much smaller niche for writers has rising thirty thousand members and turns away more unsuitable applicants twice a day than RBT has active members, wonder no more. The pettyfogging hairsplitting nastiness in this thread is all the evidence required to point fingers at RBT contributors by name.
> > > >
> > > > 4. Yesterday’s greenies, having screwed up almost free energy, and everything that followed from it, and having killed hundreds of millions of trees and ditto of birds, are now all hung-ho for nuclear power. What a turnabout! What a bunch of hypocritical clowns.
> > > >
> > > > Andre Jute
> > > > Just thought I’d mention these few points.
> > > Can you believe that Biden is ACTUALLY trying to get us into a nuclear war with China and Russia and some diddly stinking coward who is afraid to use his real name is complaining about a typo? This might be the very first time in history when the Russian leaders are smarter than American Presidents and these feckless knuckleheads believe that a typo is important. The mental illness of people like the luckless 5 is demonstrative of the left in every deviation from normal.
> > >
> > When I run up against people whose primary concern is to maintain their dignity, I know them for fools. Three of those five fools have had to make the humiliating public statement that they don’t read my posts because they have no answers. They were petty nobodies whose only profile was on the net even before the far left of the Donkey Party drove them crazy with crap like men supposedly being capable of giving birth and menstruating. They were always stupid, and now they’re old. I think it is idle to hope that they will ever answer to reason and common sense again. They’ve been driven nuts for good. — AJ
> With age generally comes wisdom but these people seem to be an exception.

And tommy is the exception that proves the rule

On Fri, 06 May 2022 11:47:51 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 5/6/2022 11:16 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2022 7:06 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 5 May 2022 13:08:18 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:01:35 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
>>>>>>> funkma...@hotmail.com <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:56:15 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frank .....would gladly sacrifice his children on the alter of communism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frank, what does an 'alter' of communsim look like?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It’s like, you know, the other communism…
>>>>>> Frank has made comments many times here about his beliefs that are clearly socialist. The ONLY difference between socialism and communism is that when the Russian socialists were registering as a party, "socialist" was already taken and so they registered as "communist".
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that's the _only_ difference.....
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have pretty poor regard for people that believe that they should be supported by working people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Said the guy living off SSI.....
>>>>
>>>> The Federal Budget is divided into Mandatory spending, more than 65%
>>>> of the Budget, that pays for mandated benefits such as Social
>>>> Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. such as Social Security, Medicare,
>>>> and Medicaid.
>>>>
>>>> The remaining ~35% is termed Discretionary spending and pays for
>>>> everything else. It will be $1.688 trillion
>>>>
>>> Words matter.
>>> The only Constitutionally mandated expense is defense.
>>>
>>> Calling 'discretionary' expenses 'mandatory' is useful in
>>> political terms but not actually true.
>>
>> Well, it isn't discretionary when it is payment on borrowed money. I see that flunky is telling us that he isn't going to draw social security when he retires. After all, he is willing to throw money that he earned away by referring to it as public money.
>>
>
>Argentina defaults regularly. As have Mexico and Russia in
>recent memory. Now that we are of their ilk, that can (and
>likely will) happen here.

Given that something like, as of 2019, 40% of the U.S. government debt
is held by entities outside to the U.S. it is likely that all the U.S.
has to do is miss an interest payment. As I believe Greece did.
--
Cheers,

John B.