On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
> >>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
> >>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
> >>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
> >>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
> >>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
> >>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
> >>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
> >>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
> >>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
> >>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >
> > We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
> Why on earth and not in any other direction?

It must be in the opposite directions otherwise you SR cult members can artificially redefine the owls is isotropic in all directions.
> >

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>
>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>
> It must be in the opposite directions

Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.

Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.

Why on earth and not in any other direction?

> otherwise you SR cult members can artificially redefine the owls is
> isotropic in all directions.
>>>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
> >>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
> >>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
> >>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
> >>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
> >>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
> >>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
> >>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
> >>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
> >>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
> >>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >>>
> >>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
> >> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >
> > It must be in the opposite directions
> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>
> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
> Why on earth and not in any other direction?

Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface. We want to measure OWLS in both directions. Do you beam line have GPS synched clocks at each end?.....guess not.

> > otherwise you SR cult members can artificially redefine the owls is
> > isotropic in all directions.
> >>>
> >
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>
>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>
>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>
>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>
> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.

And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
you really don’t have a reason why.

> We want to measure OWLS in both directions. Do you beam line have GPS
> synched clocks at each end?.....guess not.
>
>>> otherwise you SR cult members can artificially redefine the owls is
>>> isotropic in all directions.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
> >>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
> >>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
> >>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
> >>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
> >>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
> >>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
> >>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
> >>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>
> >>> It must be in the opposite directions
> >> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
> >>
> >> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
> >> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >
> > Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
> you really don’t have a reason why.

It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock. Otherwise I would gladly use the pair of GPS synched clocks that they used for determining the one-way speed of neutrino.

> > We want to measure OWLS in both directions. Do you beam line have GPS
> > synched clocks at each end?.....guess not.
> >
> >>> otherwise you SR cult members can artificially redefine the owls is
> >>> isotropic in all directions.
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>
>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>>>
>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>
>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
>> you really don’t have a reason why.
>
> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.

And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
between.

Why do you want both clocks on the ground?

You still can’t give a reason after being asked about ten times?

> Otherwise I would gladly use the pair of GPS synched clocks that they
> used for determining the one-way speed of neutrino.
>
>>> We want to measure OWLS in both directions. Do you beam line have GPS
>>> synched clocks at each end?.....guess not.
>>>
>>>>> otherwise you SR cult members can artificially redefine the owls is
>>>>> isotropic in all directions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books..
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
> >>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
> >>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
> >>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
> >>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
> >>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>
> >>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
> >> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
> >> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
> >> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
> >> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
> >> you really don’t have a reason why.
> >
> > It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
> between.

So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion as the earth rotates.
In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?
>
> Why do you want both clocks on the ground?
>
> You still can’t give a reason after being asked about ten times?
> > Otherwise I would gladly use the pair of GPS synched clocks that they
> > used for determining the one-way speed of neutrino.
> >
> >>> We want to measure OWLS in both directions. Do you beam line have GPS
> >>> synched clocks at each end?.....guess not.
> >>>
> >>>>> otherwise you SR cult members can artificially redefine the owls is
> >>>>> isotropic in all directions.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On 4/27/2021 2:01 PM, Ken Seto wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
>>>
>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
>> between.
>
> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion as the earth rotates.

So let's have BOTH clocks in space, so both are not subject to the
earth's rotation!

> In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?

What is your objection to telling us why both clocks need to be on earth
mountaintops? Is it a secret?

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
>>>
>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
>> between.
>
> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
> as the earth rotates.

No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
away stays directly over the ground clock.

> In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?

There’s no need to test something that’s already been done.

>>
>> Why do you want both clocks on the ground?
>>
>> You still can’t give a reason after being asked about ten times?
>>> Otherwise I would gladly use the pair of GPS synched clocks that they
>>> used for determining the one-way speed of neutrino.
>>>
>>>>> We want to measure OWLS in both directions. Do you beam line have GPS
>>>>> synched clocks at each end?.....guess not.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> otherwise you SR cult members can artificially redefine the owls is
>>>>>>> isotropic in all directions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 21:57:59 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

> > So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
> > as the earth rotates.
> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
> away stays directly over the ground clock.

Bod, poor idiot, is Earth in relative motion wrt Sun?

Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 21:57:59 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
>>> as the earth rotates.
>> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
>> away stays directly over the ground clock.
>
> Bod, poor idiot, is Earth in relative motion wrt Sun?
>

Woz, why would I engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man?

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail..com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
> >>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
> >>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
> >>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle..
> >>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
> >>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
> >>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
> >>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
> >>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
> >>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
> >>>
> >>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
> >> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
> >> between.
> >
> > So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
> > as the earth rotates.
> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
> away stays directly over the ground clock.

So the clocks are not in the same frame, they are in different gravitational potentials..

> > In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?
> There’s no need to test something that’s already been done.

You are a lying sack of shit. No such owls testing the opposite directions been done.
> >>

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:16:51 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 4/27/2021 2:01 PM, Ken Seto wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail..com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in dozens
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
> >>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite directions is isotropic.
> >>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
> >>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle..
> >>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
> >>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
> >>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
> >>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
> >>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
> >>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
> >>>
> >>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
> >> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
> >> between.
> >
> > So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion as the earth rotates.
> So let's have BOTH clocks in space, so both are not subject to the
> earth’s rotation!
Both clocks in different gravitational potentials and they cannot maintain a constant distance between them.

> > In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?
> What is your objection to telling us why both clocks need to be on earth
> mountaintops? Is it a secret?

Moron, We are trying to test if the OWLS on earth is isotropic isotropic in the opposite directions.

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite
>>>>>>>>>>> directions is isotropic.
>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in
>>>>>>>>>>> any other direction?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>>>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
>>>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
>>>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
>>>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
>>>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
>>>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
>>>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
>>>> between.
>>>
>>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
>>> as the earth rotates.
>> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
>> away stays directly over the ground clock.
>
> So the clocks are not in the same frame, they are in different gravitational potentials..

Ok, so use two clocks relatively at rest with each other and at the same
high altitude.

>
>>> In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?
>> There’s no need to test something that’s already been done.
>
> You are a lying sack of shit. No such owls testing the opposite directions been done.

Of course it’s been done! Why do you keep thinking that if you don’t know
about it, it doesn’t exist?You’ve read NOTHING. Why would you know about
these things?

>>>>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:16:51 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 4/27/2021 2:01 PM, Ken Seto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite
>>>>>>>>>>> directions is isotropic.
>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in
>>>>>>>>>>> any other direction?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>>>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
>>>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
>>>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
>>>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
>>>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
>>>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
>>>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
>>>> between.
>>>
>>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
>>> as the earth rotates.
>> So let's have BOTH clocks in space, so both are not subject to the
>> earth’s rotation!
> Both clocks in different gravitational potentials and they cannot
> maintain a constant distance between them.

Have you never heard of a geosynchronous satellite? They stay over the same
location on the surface.

>
>>> In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?
>> What is your objection to telling us why both clocks need to be on earth
>> mountaintops? Is it a secret?
>
> Moron, We are trying to test if the OWLS on earth

Why on earth? Why not anywhere else?

> is isotropic isotropic in the opposite directions.
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:24:07 PM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

> Woz, why would I engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man?

Why indeed!

On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 22:24:07 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 21:57:59 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
> >>> as the earth rotates.
> >> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
> >> away stays directly over the ground clock.
> >
> > Bod, poor idiot, is Earth in relative motion wrt Sun?
> >
> Woz, why would I engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man?

Bod, poor idiot, you're doing nothing else here. So are your
fellow idiots.

On Wednesday, 28 April 2021 at 00:18:48 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

> Have you never heard of a geosynchronous satellite? They stay over the same
> location on the surface.

Yet another idiot geocentrist.

On Wednesday, 28 April 2021 at 05:15:41 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:24:07 PM UTC-7, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Woz, why would I engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man?
> Why indeed!

Because that's all your bunch of idiots is able to, poor trash.
Except hurlng insults, of course.

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 6:18:46 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that said, no, they have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any direction?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite
> >>>>>>>>>>> directions is isotropic.
> >>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in
> >>>>>>>>>>> any other direction?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
> >>>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
> >>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
> >>>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
> >>>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
> >>>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
> >>>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
> >>>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
> >>>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
> >>>> between.
> >>>
> >>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
> >>> as the earth rotates.
> >> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
> >> away stays directly over the ground clock.
> >
> > So the clocks are not in the same frame, they are in different gravitational potentials..
> Ok, so use two clocks relatively at rest with each other and at the same
> high altitude.

Moron these clocks are in a different gravitational potential. They will not remain in synch they will need to be corrected mathematically. So they can’t be used to measure owls. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
> >
> >>> In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?
> >> There’s no need to test something that’s already been done.
> >
> > You are a lying sack of shit. No such owls testing the opposite directions been done.
> Of course it’s been done! Why do you keep thinking that if you don’t know
> about it, it doesn’t exist?You’ve read NOTHING. Why would you know about
> these things?
> >>>>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 6:18:46 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directions is isotropic.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
>>>>>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
>>>>>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
>>>>>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
>>>>>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
>>>>>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
>>>>>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
>>>>>> between.
>>>>>
>>>>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
>>>>> as the earth rotates.
>>>> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
>>>> away stays directly over the ground clock.
>>>
>>> So the clocks are not in the same frame, they are in different gravitational potentials..
>> Ok, so use two clocks relatively at rest with each other and at the same
>> high altitude.
>
> Moron these clocks are in a different gravitational potential.

I said put them at the same altitude. Do you still think they’re at
different gravitational potentials?

> They will not remain in synch they will need to be corrected
> mathematically. So they can’t be used to measure owls. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
>>>
>>>>> In any case what is your objection of two GPS synched clocks in mountain tops?
>>>> There’s no need to test something that’s already been done.
>>>
>>> You are a lying sack of shit. No such owls testing the opposite directions been done.
>> Of course it’s been done! Why do you keep thinking that if you don’t know
>> about it, it doesn’t exist?You’ve read NOTHING. Why would you know about
>> these things?
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 8:14:00 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 6:18:46 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk....@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there too?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said, no, they have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> directions is isotropic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> any other direction?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
> >>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
> >>>>>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
> >>>>>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
> >>>>>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
> >>>>>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
> >>>>>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
> >>>>>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
> >>>>>> between.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
> >>>>> as the earth rotates.
> >>>> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
> >>>> away stays directly over the ground clock.
> >>>
> >>> So the clocks are not in the same frame, they are in different gravitational potentials..
> >> Ok, so use two clocks relatively at rest with each other and at the same
> >> high altitude.
> >
> > Moron these clocks are in a different gravitational potential.
> I said put them at the same altitude. Do you still think they’re at
> different gravitational potentials?

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 8:14:00 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 6:18:46 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directions is isotropic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
>>>>>>>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
>>>>>>>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
>>>>>>>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
>>>>>>>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
>>>>>>>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
>>>>>>>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
>>>>>>>> between.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
>>>>>>> as the earth rotates.
>>>>>> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
>>>>>> away stays directly over the ground clock.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the clocks are not in the same frame, they are in different
>>>>> gravitational potentials..
>>>> Ok, so use two clocks relatively at rest with each other and at the same
>>>> high altitude.
>>>
>>> Moron these clocks are in a different gravitational potential.
>> I said put them at the same altitude. Do you still think they’re at
>> different gravitational potentials?
>
> How is this different than the clocks at two mountain tops at the same height?

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 9:27:21 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 8:14:00 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 6:18:46 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail..com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk....@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk....@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me in the nest.” You don’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he can’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the answer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said, no, they have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something stupid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directions is isotropic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other direction?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
> >>>>>>>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
> >>>>>>>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
> >>>>>>>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
> >>>>>>>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
> >>>>>>>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
> >>>>>>>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
> >>>>>>>> between.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
> >>>>>>> as the earth rotates.
> >>>>>> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
> >>>>>> away stays directly over the ground clock.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So the clocks are not in the same frame, they are in different
> >>>>> gravitational potentials..
> >>>> Ok, so use two clocks relatively at rest with each other and at the same
> >>>> high altitude.
> >>>
> >>> Moron these clocks are in a different gravitational potential.
> >> I said put them at the same altitude. Do you still think they’re at
> >> different gravitational potentials?
> >
> > How is this different than the clocks at two mountain tops at the same height?
> 1. It’s been done.

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 9:27:21 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 8:14:00 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 6:18:46 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:45:21 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:55:43 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:41:47 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:21:06 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:37 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:30:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can’t answer why they have to be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you said....This tactic is not going to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as a reminder to all...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken asks a question about SR, when all his questions are answered in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of book available to him, and then he simply refuses to read the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No sir, the questions I asked about SR are not in the books.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they are. You’ve not looked. You don’t want to look. You want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them for you and feed you like a helpless baby bird. “The worm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t exist until my mother brings it to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the nest.” You don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mother got the worm out in the world and you should get it there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s why I asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody here asks a question about model mechanics, and then he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer it, and he instead tells you to read his book, when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the question is not in his book either. No sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You tell me why the physical clocks to measure the one-way speed off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> light not be anchored to the ground?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because they don’t need to be. One can be on the ground and another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space thousands of miles away. You were the one that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said, no, they have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both be on the ground. I have no idea why you would say something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moron, we are trying to measure the isotropy of the speed of light on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why “on earth”? Why not measure isotropy in any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hole point is to use a pair of GPS synched clocks on earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do they have to both be on earth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We want to find out if the owls on earth in the opposite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directions is isotropic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It must be in the opposite directions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that’s fine. Straight up and straight down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or up at a 75 degree angle and then back down at a 75 degree angle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on earth and not in any other direction?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey idiot, we are talking about two GPS synched clocks on earth’s surface.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And I asked you (repeatedly) why they have to both be on the Earth’s
>>>>>>>>>>>> surface. You’ve been asked this at least a half dozen times and so far
>>>>>>>>>>>> you’ve not given any reason why. Either because you forget the question
>>>>>>>>>>>> from day to day (you 85-year-old who can’t live independently), or because
>>>>>>>>>>>> you really don’t have a reason why.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is obvious that light can’t pass through solid rock.
>>>>>>>>>> And if one of the clocks is a few thousand miles up, there’s no rock in
>>>>>>>>>> between.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So they are not in the same frame....right? They are in relative motion
>>>>>>>>> as the earth rotates.
>>>>>>>> No. They are not in relative motion. The clock up there thousands of miles
>>>>>>>> away stays directly over the ground clock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the clocks are not in the same frame, they are in different
>>>>>>> gravitational potentials..
>>>>>> Ok, so use two clocks relatively at rest with each other and at the same
>>>>>> high altitude.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moron these clocks are in a different gravitational potential.
>>>> I said put them at the same altitude. Do you still think they’re at
>>>> different gravitational potentials?
>>>
>>> How is this different than the clocks at two mountain tops at the same height?
>> 1. It’s been done.
>
> It’s a lie.