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 by: russellseaton1@yahoo - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 06:09 UTC

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:29:49 AM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 20:42:38 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
> <frkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> >> >> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> >> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> Want to buy an electric car next time?
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
> >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > >> >> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> And people voted for this known criminal!!
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> Reference:
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
> >> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> > >> >> - Harry S. Truman
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > A little research on your nonsensical post.
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
> >> >> >> > >> > https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
> >> >> >> > >> > https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
> >> >> >> > >> > https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> >> > >> Andrew Muzi
> >> >> >> > >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >> >> >> > >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
> >> >> >> > The Share Holders???
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
> >> >> >> > don't understand?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > John B.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
> >> >> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
> >> >> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
> >> >> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
> >> >> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
> >> >> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
> >> >
> >> >It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
> >> >
> >> >.>.... Actually I
> >> >> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
> >> >> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
> >> >
> >> >And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
> >> >> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
> >> >> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
> >> >> descriptive term automatically.
> >> >
> >> >Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
> >> >
> >> When you talk about Andy, the "famous" self published author, living
> >> in the "low rent district" and self described as "too obese to be safe
> >> riding a conventional "push-bike" and thus had to build the famous
> >> electric bicycle, you are talking about a chap with, as the Supreme
> >> Court described it, "no socially redeeming qualities"
> >>
> >> I blocked his posts years ago as being of even of less content then
> >> those of "tomfool" Tommy.
> >
> >I don't actually block anyone's posts. (And while I'm posting this using Google Groups,
> >I do have that blocking capability on other platforms.)
> >
> >But Jute's posts are too self-aggrandizing, long-winded, foul and boring to bother reading.
> >I occasionally speed-read or skim to make sure nothing has changed. Nothing ever does.
> >
> >Just think: a wannabee writer who has to resort to insults to attract anyone's attention
> >to what he writes. And even so, the only real attention he gets is from Tom Kunich. Sad.
> >
> >- Frank Krygowski
> I've always regarded his posts as 'much ado about nothing" :-)
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John B.


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 by: John B. - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 07:15 UTC

On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 23:09:40 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:29:49 AM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 20:42:38 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
>> <frkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
>> >> >> >> > On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> >> >> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > >On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> > On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Want to buy an electric car next time?
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
>> >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> > >> >> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> And people voted for this known criminal!!
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Reference:
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >> - Harry S. Truman
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > A little research on your nonsensical post.
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
>> >> >> >> > >> > https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
>> >> >> >> > >> > https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
>> >> >> >> > >> > https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> --
>> >> >> >> > >> Andrew Muzi
>> >> >> >> > >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> >> >> >> > >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
>> >> >> >> > The Share Holders???
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
>> >> >> >> > don't understand?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > John B.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
>> >> >> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
>> >> >> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
>> >> >> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
>> >> >> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
>> >> >> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
>> >> >
>> >> >It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
>> >> >
>> >> >.>.... Actually I
>> >> >> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
>> >> >> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
>> >> >
>> >> >And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
>> >> >> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
>> >> >> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
>> >> >> descriptive term automatically.
>> >> >
>> >> >Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
>> >> >
>> >> When you talk about Andy, the "famous" self published author, living
>> >> in the "low rent district" and self described as "too obese to be safe
>> >> riding a conventional "push-bike" and thus had to build the famous
>> >> electric bicycle, you are talking about a chap with, as the Supreme
>> >> Court described it, "no socially redeeming qualities"
>> >>
>> >> I blocked his posts years ago as being of even of less content then
>> >> those of "tomfool" Tommy.
>> >
>> >I don't actually block anyone's posts. (And while I'm posting this using Google Groups,
>> >I do have that blocking capability on other platforms.)
>> >
>> >But Jute's posts are too self-aggrandizing, long-winded, foul and boring to bother reading.
>> >I occasionally speed-read or skim to make sure nothing has changed. Nothing ever does.
>> >
>> >Just think: a wannabee writer who has to resort to insults to attract anyone's attention
>> >to what he writes. And even so, the only real attention he gets is from Tom Kunich. Sad.
>> >
>> >- Frank Krygowski
>> I've always regarded his posts as 'much ado about nothing" :-)
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>
>I skip over Andre the Giant's posts. Do not read. But I enjoy disproving Tommy boy's lies.


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On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >> >> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> >> >> > On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> >> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> > >> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> > >> > On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail..com wrote:
> >> >> > >> >> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Want to buy an electric car next time?
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________________
> >> >> > >> >> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> And people voted for this known criminal!!
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Reference:
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> - Harry S. Truman
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > A little research on your nonsensical post.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
> >> >> > >> > https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
> >> >> > >> > https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
> >> >> > >> > https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> > >> Andrew Muzi
> >> >> > >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >> >> > >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
> >> >> > The Share Holders???
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
> >> >> > don't understand?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > John B.
> >> >> >
> >> >> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> >> >
> >> >I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
> >> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
> >> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
> >> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
> >> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
> >> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
> >
> >It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
> >
> >.>.... Actually I
> >> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
> >> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
> >
> >And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe.. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools.. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
> >
> >>
> >> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
> >> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
> >> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
> >> descriptive term automatically.
> >
> >Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
> >
> When you talk about Andy,


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On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:09:41 AM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:29:49 AM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 20:42:38 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
> > <frkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> > >> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >> >> >> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> > >> >> >> > On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >> >> >> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > >On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >> > On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Want to buy an electric car next time?
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
> > >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________________
> > >> >> >> > >> >> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> And people voted for this known criminal!!
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Reference:
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
> > >> >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > >> >> - Harry S. Truman
> > >> >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > >> > Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
> > >> >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > >> > A little research on your nonsensical post.
> > >> >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > >> > Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
> > >> >> >> > >> > https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
> > >> >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > >> > Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
> > >> >> >> > >> > https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
> > >> >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > >> > And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
> > >> >> >> > >> > https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
> > >> >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > >> > Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
> > >> >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> >> > >> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
> > >> >> >> > >>
> > >> >> >> > >> --
> > >> >> >> > >> Andrew Muzi
> > >> >> >> > >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > >> >> >> > >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
> > >> >> >> > The Share Holders???
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
> > >> >> >> > don't understand?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > --
> > >> >> >> > Cheers,
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > John B.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
> > >> >> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
> > >> >> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
> > >> >> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
> > >> >> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
> > >> >> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
> > >> >
> > >> >It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
> > >> >
> > >> >.>.... Actually I
> > >> >> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
> > >> >> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
> > >> >
> > >> >And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
> > >> >> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
> > >> >> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
> > >> >> descriptive term automatically.
> > >> >
> > >> >Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
> > >> >
> > >> When you talk about Andy, the "famous" self published author, living
> > >> in the "low rent district" and self described as "too obese to be safe
> > >> riding a conventional "push-bike" and thus had to build the famous
> > >> electric bicycle, you are talking about a chap with, as the Supreme
> > >> Court described it, "no socially redeeming qualities"
> > >>
> > >> I blocked his posts years ago as being of even of less content then
> > >> those of "tomfool" Tommy.
> > >
> > >I don't actually block anyone's posts. (And while I'm posting this using Google Groups,
> > >I do have that blocking capability on other platforms.)
> > >
> > >But Jute's posts are too self-aggrandizing, long-winded, foul and boring to bother reading.
> > >I occasionally speed-read or skim to make sure nothing has changed. Nothing ever does.
> > >
> > >Just think: a wannabee writer who has to resort to insults to attract anyone's attention
> > >to what he writes. And even so, the only real attention he gets is from Tom Kunich. Sad.
> > >
> > >- Frank Krygowski
> > I've always regarded his posts as 'much ado about nothing" :-)
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John B.
> I skip over Andre the Giant's posts. Do not read. But I enjoy disproving Tommy boy's lies.


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On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
>>>>>>> The Share Holders???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
>>>>>>> don't understand?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
>>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
>>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
>>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
>>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
>>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
>>>
>>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
>>>
>>> .>.... Actually I
>>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
>>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
>>>
>>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
>>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
>>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
>>>> descriptive term automatically.
>>>
>>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
>>>
>> When you talk about Andy,
>
> I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "


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 by: Andre Jute - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 16:57 UTC

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
> >>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
> >>>>>>> The Share Holders???
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
> >>>>>>> don't understand?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John B.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
> >>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
> >>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
> >>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
> >>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
> >>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
> >>>
> >>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
> >>>
> >>> .>.... Actually I
> >>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
> >>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
> >>>
> >>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
> >>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
> >>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
> >>>> descriptive term automatically.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
> >>>
> >> When you talk about Andy,
> >
> > I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "
> A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute."
>
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski
>
Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.


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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 17:14 UTC

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> > >>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail..com wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441..html
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
> > >>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > >>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
> > >>>>>>> The Share Holders???
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
> > >>>>>>> don't understand?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> John B.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
> > >>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
> > >>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
> > >>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
> > >>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
> > >>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
> > >>>
> > >>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
> > >>>
> > >>> .>.... Actually I
> > >>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
> > >>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
> > >>>
> > >>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
> > >>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
> > >>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
> > >>>> descriptive term automatically.
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
> > >>>
> > >> When you talk about Andy,
> > >
> > > I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "
> > A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute."
> >
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> >
> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
>
> When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
> >
> Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
> >
> You really should stay out of fields in which you have no knowledge, and leave them to lateral thinkers like Tom and me. You don't have what it takes, because you're small men with petty minds, semi-literate flunkies whose last achievement was getting a high school diploma.
> >
> Andre Jute
> Andre is never more brutal than he has to be. -- Nelson Mandela
> >
Jeff and Franik for college diploma's doing less work than it took to get a high school diploma. If you have a diploma that is never used for that which it is intended, you do not have a diploma.


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 by: Frank Krygowski - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:11 UTC

On 8/12/2022 12:57 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
>
> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.

:-) Hey! Andre is taking Irony Lessons from Tom!

--
- Frank Krygowski

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 by: Andre Jute - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:22 UTC

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 7:11:05 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 8/12/2022 12:57 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> > Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
> :-) Hey! Andre is taking Irony Lessons from Tom!
>
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski
>
Do you have any answers to my substantive points, Franki-boy, or do you just like the pointless sound of your own voice?
>
Here they are again, for you to answer:
>
When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
>
Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
>
Doesn't look to me like you know anything, Franki-boy, which is why you stick to personal abuse.
>
Unsigned out of contempt for a foolish wannabe bully.
>

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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:36 UTC

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 7:11:05 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 8/12/2022 12:57 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
> > :-) Hey! Andre is taking Irony Lessons from Tom!
> >
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> >
> Do you have any answers to my substantive points, Franki-boy, or do you just like the pointless sound of your own voice?
> >
> Here they are again, for you to answer:
> >
> When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
> >
> Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
> >
> Doesn't look to me like you know anything, Franki-boy, which is why you stick to personal abuse.
> >
> Unsigned out of contempt for a foolish wannabe bully.

Well, when you're nothing and have never been anything all he has left is the sound of his own voice. Were he to answer a question substantially he would first have to know something. Since that isn't the case the only thing he could possibly do is make meaningless noises just like a pig in rut.

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 by: John B. - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:07 UTC

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> > On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> > >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>> > >>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> > >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>> > >>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
>> > >>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> > >>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>> > >>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
>> > >>>>>>> The Share Holders???
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
>> > >>>>>>> don't understand?
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> John B.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
>> > >>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
>> > >>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
>> > >>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
>> > >>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
>> > >>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> .>.... Actually I
>> > >>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
>> > >>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
>> > >>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
>> > >>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
>> > >>>> descriptive term automatically.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
>> > >>>
>> > >> When you talk about Andy,
>> > >
>> > > I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "
>> > A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute."
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > - Frank Krygowski
>> >
>> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
>>
>> When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
>> >
>> Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
>> >
>> You really should stay out of fields in which you have no knowledge, and leave them to lateral thinkers like Tom and me. You don't have what it takes, because you're small men with petty minds, semi-literate flunkies whose last achievement was getting a high school diploma.
>> >
>> Andre Jute
>> Andre is never more brutal than he has to be. -- Nelson Mandela
>> >
>Jeff and Franik for college diploma's doing less work than it took to get a high school diploma. If you have a diploma that is never used for that which it is intended, you do not have a diploma.
>
>Slow Johnny thinks that he is so brilliant that he knows that today I am making the same mistakes of trusting Obama or now Biden. Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market. Meanwhile, he doesn't have a cent in the stock market. His entire world is tied up in collecting his military retirement and living in a country that has a very low cost of living. Too bad that Biden before his term is up is going to devalue his military retirement to the point where one Dollar is going to be worth one Baht.


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 by: russellseaton1@yahoo - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 03:47 UTC

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:07:46 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> > On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > > On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >> > >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> > >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >> > >>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> > >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >> > >>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> > >>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
> >> > >>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
> >> > >>>>>>> The Share Holders???
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
> >> > >>>>>>> don't understand?
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> John B.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
> >> > >>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
> >> > >>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
> >> > >>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
> >> > >>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
> >> > >>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> .>.... Actually I
> >> > >>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
> >> > >>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
> >> > >>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
> >> > >>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
> >> > >>>> descriptive term automatically.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >> When you talk about Andy,
> >> > >
> >> > > I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "
> >> > A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > - Frank Krygowski
> >> >
> >> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
> >>
> >> When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
> >> >
> >> Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
> >> >
> >> You really should stay out of fields in which you have no knowledge, and leave them to lateral thinkers like Tom and me. You don't have what it takes, because you're small men with petty minds, semi-literate flunkies whose last achievement was getting a high school diploma.
> >> >
> >> Andre Jute
> >> Andre is never more brutal than he has to be. -- Nelson Mandela
> >> >
> >Jeff and Franik for college diploma's doing less work than it took to get a high school diploma. If you have a diploma that is never used for that which it is intended, you do not have a diploma.
> >
> >Slow Johnny thinks that he is so brilliant that he knows that today I am making the same mistakes of trusting Obama or now Biden. Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market. Meanwhile, he doesn't have a cent in the stock market. His entire world is tied up in collecting his military retirement and living in a country that has a very low cost of living. Too bad that Biden before his term is up is going to devalue his military retirement to the point where one Dollar is going to be worth one Baht.
> "Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market."???
>
> And what was it, a month ago you were whining about all the money you
> lost when O'bama was president? Now you tell us that you haven't lost
> a cent?
> Are you lying again? Or did your memory slip a cog.
>
> As for my living? Well, I'll just say that I worked overseas for 30
> years and invested in local stock markets which did very well, thank
> you. And without going into details our current investments are
> largely in property and gold both of which are doing better then the
> inflation rate.
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John B.


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On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
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>Do you even know what a quango is?

The term is British which might explain why US residents are not
familiar with the term. I have yet to see it used in the US even
though many US non-governmental organizations quality to be labeled a
quango:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_the_United_States>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_companies>

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 by: russellseaton1@yahoo - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 04:53 UTC

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:42:52 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
> <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Do you even know what a quango is?
> The term is British which might explain why US residents are not
> familiar with the term. I have yet to see it used in the US even
> though many US non-governmental organizations quality to be labeled a
> quango:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_the_United_States>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_companies>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

I have never heard that term. But I suppose it could be applicable to 2008 when the US Federal Government bailed out General Motors with $50 billion. Government ended up owning 61 percent equity stake in the company. And I believe there have been a few examples of the US Government partnering up with companies on various projects. Take the recent Covid vaccines. US Federal Government worked with Pfizer and Moderna to make the vaccines. Kind of a partnership.

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 by: John B. - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 07:06 UTC

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 20:47:14 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:07:46 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>> >> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> >> > On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> > > On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>> >> > >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> > >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>> >> > >>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> > >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> > >>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> --
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
>> >> > >>>>>>> The Share Holders???
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
>> >> > >>>>>>> don't understand?
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>> --
>> >> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>> John B.
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
>> >> > >>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
>> >> > >>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
>> >> > >>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
>> >> > >>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
>> >> > >>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> .>.... Actually I
>> >> > >>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
>> >> > >>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
>> >> > >>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
>> >> > >>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
>> >> > >>>> descriptive term automatically.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> When you talk about Andy,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "
>> >> > A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute."
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > - Frank Krygowski
>> >> >
>> >> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
>> >>
>> >> When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
>> >> >
>> >> Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
>> >> >
>> >> You really should stay out of fields in which you have no knowledge, and leave them to lateral thinkers like Tom and me. You don't have what it takes, because you're small men with petty minds, semi-literate flunkies whose last achievement was getting a high school diploma.
>> >> >
>> >> Andre Jute
>> >> Andre is never more brutal than he has to be. -- Nelson Mandela
>> >> >
>> >Jeff and Franik for college diploma's doing less work than it took to get a high school diploma. If you have a diploma that is never used for that which it is intended, you do not have a diploma.
>> >
>> >Slow Johnny thinks that he is so brilliant that he knows that today I am making the same mistakes of trusting Obama or now Biden. Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market. Meanwhile, he doesn't have a cent in the stock market. His entire world is tied up in collecting his military retirement and living in a country that has a very low cost of living. Too bad that Biden before his term is up is going to devalue his military retirement to the point where one Dollar is going to be worth one Baht.
>> "Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market."???
>>
>> And what was it, a month ago you were whining about all the money you
>> lost when O'bama was president? Now you tell us that you haven't lost
>> a cent?
>> Are you lying again? Or did your memory slip a cog.
>>
>> As for my living? Well, I'll just say that I worked overseas for 30
>> years and invested in local stock markets which did very well, thank
>> you. And without going into details our current investments are
>> largely in property and gold both of which are doing better then the
>> inflation rate.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>
>Gold and real estate have done very well. For fun, I get my fun in unusual ways I guess, I looked at the various indices and gold between Aug or Sep 2000, and today, Aug 12, 2022. Here are the results, percentage increase from 2000 to 2022:
>Gold +557%
>S&P 500 +225%
>Dow +201%
>Nasdaq +287%
>
>Real estate is also up a large amount in the past 22 years.


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 by: Andre Jute - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 08:35 UTC

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 5:42:52 AM UTC+1, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
> <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Do you even know what a quango is?
> The term is British which might explain why US residents are not
> familiar with the term. I have yet to see it used in the US even
> though many US non-governmental organizations quality to be labeled a
> quango:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_the_United_States>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_companies>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
Thanks, Jeff. I didn't read either of the two references you supplied: I would find their creeping socialism just too depressing. -- AJ

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On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 12:57:19 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> > >>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail..com wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441..html
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
> > >>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > >>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
> > >>>>>>> The Share Holders???
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
> > >>>>>>> don't understand?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> John B.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
> > >>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
> > >>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
> > >>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
> > >>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
> > >>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
> > >>>
> > >>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
> > >>>
> > >>> .>.... Actually I
> > >>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
> > >>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
> > >>>
> > >>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
> > >>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
> > >>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
> > >>>> descriptive term automatically.
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
> > >>>
> > >> When you talk about Andy,
> > >
> > > I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "
> > A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute."
> >
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> >
> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.


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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 10:47 UTC

On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:36:10 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 7:11:05 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > On 8/12/2022 12:57 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
> > > :-) Hey! Andre is taking Irony Lessons from Tom!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > - Frank Krygowski
> > >
> > Do you have any answers to my substantive points, Franki-boy, or do you just like the pointless sound of your own voice?
> > >
> > Here they are again, for you to answer:
> > >
> > When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
> > >
> > Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
> > >
> > Doesn't look to me like you know anything, Franki-boy, which is why you stick to personal abuse.
> > >
> > Unsigned out of contempt for a foolish wannabe bully.
> Well, when you're nothing and have never been anything all he has left is the sound of his own voice. Were he to answer a question substantially he would first have to know something. Since that isn't the case the only thing he could possibly do is make meaningless noises just like a pig in rut.

Frank isn't about to regress into the neanderthal 'gutterances' of you two half-wits.

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On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:11:05 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 8/12/2022 12:57 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> > Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
> :-) Hey! Andre is taking Irony Lessons from Tom!
>
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

I've noticed andre seems to be regressing more and more to tommy's level lately.

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On 8/12/2022 10:47 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:07:46 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>>>>>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Share Holders???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't understand?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
>>>>>>>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
>>>>>>>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
>>>>>>>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
>>>>>>>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
>>>>>>>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .>.... Actually I
>>>>>>>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
>>>>>>>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
>>>>>>>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
>>>>>>>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
>>>>>>>>> descriptive term automatically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you talk about Andy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "
>>>>> A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> - Frank Krygowski
>>>>>
>>>> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
>>>>
>>>> When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
>>>>>
>>>> Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
>>>>>
>>>> You really should stay out of fields in which you have no knowledge, and leave them to lateral thinkers like Tom and me. You don't have what it takes, because you're small men with petty minds, semi-literate flunkies whose last achievement was getting a high school diploma.
>>>>>
>>>> Andre Jute
>>>> Andre is never more brutal than he has to be. -- Nelson Mandela
>>>>>
>>> Jeff and Franik for college diploma's doing less work than it took to get a high school diploma. If you have a diploma that is never used for that which it is intended, you do not have a diploma.
>>>
>>> Slow Johnny thinks that he is so brilliant that he knows that today I am making the same mistakes of trusting Obama or now Biden. Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market. Meanwhile, he doesn't have a cent in the stock market. His entire world is tied up in collecting his military retirement and living in a country that has a very low cost of living. Too bad that Biden before his term is up is going to devalue his military retirement to the point where one Dollar is going to be worth one Baht.
>> "Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market."???
>>
>> And what was it, a month ago you were whining about all the money you
>> lost when O'bama was president? Now you tell us that you haven't lost
>> a cent?
>> Are you lying again? Or did your memory slip a cog.
>>
>> As for my living? Well, I'll just say that I worked overseas for 30
>> years and invested in local stock markets which did very well, thank
>> you. And without going into details our current investments are
>> largely in property and gold both of which are doing better then the
>> inflation rate.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>
> Gold and real estate have done very well. For fun, I get my fun in unusual ways I guess, I looked at the various indices and gold between Aug or Sep 2000, and today, Aug 12, 2022. Here are the results, percentage increase from 2000 to 2022:
> Gold +557%
> S&P 500 +225%
> Dow +201%
> Nasdaq +287%
>
> Real estate is also up a large amount in the past 22 years.
>


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On 8/12/2022 11:53 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:42:52 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
>> <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you even know what a quango is?
>> The term is British which might explain why US residents are not
>> familiar with the term. I have yet to see it used in the US even
>> though many US non-governmental organizations quality to be labeled a
>> quango:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_the_United_States>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_companies>
>> --
>> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
>> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
>> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
> I have never heard that term. But I suppose it could be applicable to 2008 when the US Federal Government bailed out General Motors with $50 billion. Government ended up owning 61 percent equity stake in the company. And I believe there have been a few examples of the US Government partnering up with companies on various projects. Take the recent Covid vaccines. US Federal Government worked with Pfizer and Moderna to make the vaccines. Kind of a partnership.
>

Mussolini did it better- practical control of industry
without contractual or statutory control of the 'means of
production'. It never works in real life despite shades of
communist structure and other subterfuges.

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<www.yellowjersey.org/>
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On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 5:37:14 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 8/12/2022 10:47 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:07:46 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>>>> On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>>>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these insane things?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden took office.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You guessed it ! Afghanistan!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it China.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand to make billions!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers to the baffling decisions they make!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is and we just sit by and watch it happen.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)] whose stock has soared.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited, abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well as battery management systems.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden administration has shut down America's independence of energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and I will show you a crook."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is about 15 cents US.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made up lie. Not surprising.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!! Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Share Holders???
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it that you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't understand?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> John B.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits and living in a country where the cost of living is low because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
> >>>>>>>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
> >>>>>>>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is a unit
> >>>>>>>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories, managed
> >>>>>>>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and thus isn't,
> >>>>>>>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> .>.... Actually I
> >>>>>>>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite astute
> >>>>>>>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his foolishness for
> >>>>>>>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a descriptive
> >>>>>>>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the correct
> >>>>>>>>> descriptive term automatically.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market - he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When you talk about Andy,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually redeeming values> "
> >>>>> A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute.."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> - Frank Krygowski
> >>>>>
> >>>> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves your malicious ignorance over and over again.
> >>>>
> >>>> When the American government saved the American automobile industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security: then-President Obama or a government institution?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a quango is?
> >>>>>
> >>>> You really should stay out of fields in which you have no knowledge, and leave them to lateral thinkers like Tom and me. You don't have what it takes, because you're small men with petty minds, semi-literate flunkies whose last achievement was getting a high school diploma.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Andre Jute
> >>>> Andre is never more brutal than he has to be. -- Nelson Mandela
> >>>>>
> >>> Jeff and Franik for college diploma's doing less work than it took to get a high school diploma. If you have a diploma that is never used for that which it is intended, you do not have a diploma.
> >>>
> >>> Slow Johnny thinks that he is so brilliant that he knows that today I am making the same mistakes of trusting Obama or now Biden. Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market. Meanwhile, he doesn't have a cent in the stock market. His entire world is tied up in collecting his military retirement and living in a country that has a very low cost of living. Too bad that Biden before his term is up is going to devalue his military retirement to the point where one Dollar is going to be worth one Baht.
> >> "Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market."???
> >>
> >> And what was it, a month ago you were whining about all the money you
> >> lost when O'bama was president? Now you tell us that you haven't lost
> >> a cent?
> >> Are you lying again? Or did your memory slip a cog.
> >>
> >> As for my living? Well, I'll just say that I worked overseas for 30
> >> years and invested in local stock markets which did very well, thank
> >> you. And without going into details our current investments are
> >> largely in property and gold both of which are doing better then the
> >> inflation rate.
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> John B.
> >
> > Gold and real estate have done very well. For fun, I get my fun in unusual ways I guess, I looked at the various indices and gold between Aug or Sep 2000, and today, Aug 12, 2022. Here are the results, percentage increase from 2000 to 2022:
> > Gold +557%
> > S&P 500 +225%
> > Dow +201%
> > Nasdaq +287%
> >
> > Real estate is also up a large amount in the past 22 years.
> >
> Gold does not change value; currencies depreciate against it.


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On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 5:45:59 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 8/12/2022 11:53 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:42:52 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
> >> <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do you even know what a quango is?
> >> The term is British which might explain why US residents are not
> >> familiar with the term. I have yet to see it used in the US even
> >> though many US non-governmental organizations quality to be labeled a
> >> quango:
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_the_United_States>
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_companies>
> >> --
> >> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> >> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> >> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> >> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> >
> > I have never heard that term. But I suppose it could be applicable to 2008 when the US Federal Government bailed out General Motors with $50 billion. Government ended up owning 61 percent equity stake in the company. And I believe there have been a few examples of the US Government partnering up with companies on various projects. Take the recent Covid vaccines. US Federal Government worked with Pfizer and Moderna to make the vaccines. Kind of a partnership.
> >
> Mussolini did it better- practical control of industry
> without contractual or statutory control of the 'means of
> production'. It never works in real life despite shades of
> communist structure and other subterfuges.

What is somewhat surprising is that today's communists don't even know that they are communists. They will swear on a stack of bibles that they are not communists and then they will parrot the communist line on every single thing right down the line. They might as well be quoting the Manifesto.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 15:10 UTC

On 8/13/2022 8:37 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 8/12/2022 10:47 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 8:07:46 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 4:26:51 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/12/2022 7:32 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>>>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:41:57 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 11:56:06 PM UTC+1, John B.
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:22:52 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2022 6:29 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want to know why Biden has done all of these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane things?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Want to buy an electric car next time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look up CATL, the Chinese-owned, lithium-battery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company whose value has skyrocketed since Joe Biden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took office.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess where there is a gold mine of lithium? You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guessed it ! Afghanistan!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess who owns 10% of CATL? You guessed it, Hunter Biden!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guess who is funding the Taliban now? You guessed it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're starting to see why ol' Pops was so quick to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us out of Afghanistan? Taliban is set to make trillions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on selling their lithium to China and the Bidens stand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make billions!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALWAYS follow the money...and you will find the answers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the baffling decisions they make!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hard to believe how crooked the Biden Crime Family is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we just sit by and watch it happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And hundreds lost their lives during his botched
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull-out. But he really doesn't care because he is as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil as they come! His entire regime and family is. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bidens own 10% of a Chinese lithium ion battery company
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited (CATL)]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose stock has soared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And people voted for this known criminal!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reference:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Limited,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abbreviated as CATL, is a Chinese battery manufacturer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and technology company founded in 2011 that specializes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the manufacturing of lithium-ion batteries for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric vehicles and energy storage systems, as well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as battery management systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should also explain why the Obama/Biden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration has shut down America's independence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy and is pushing SO HARD to force electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automobiles down American's throats. Follow the money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Show me a politician who got rich while in office, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will show you a crook."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Harry S. Truman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. I know its foolish to even ask, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will you ever learn? Ha Ha.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A little research on your nonsensical post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current stock price. Those are Chinese Yuan. 1 Yuan is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 15 cents US.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300750:CH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article by Forbes about how many billionaires this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company made from its investors. No Bidens on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2021/05/03/this-chinese-battery-company-has-produced-more-billionaires-than-google-or-facebook/?sh=31de1b6c67e7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And finally an article stating your nonsense is a made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up lie. Not surprising.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/10/viral-image/claim-about-bidens-ownership-chinese-firm-soaring-/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy boy, you got to do better if you are going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confuse and trick all of us. Put in more work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy!!!!!!!!!!! Work, work, work!!!!!!!! Don't fall for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the simple easy lazy trick like this nonsense. No!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Work!!!!!! Try!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/us-handed-green-battery-tech-170930441.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The shareholders in that patented technology company had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no say in that gifted technology that they paid for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development. Russell says that he doesn't see under the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deck of cards what the dealer is doing for there's nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Share Holders???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't understand?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John B.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of one corporate entity being a shareholder of
>>>>>>>>>>>> another corporate entity do you fail to understand, Slow
>>>>>>>>>>>> Johnny. You morons are really showing your ugly asses in
>>>>>>>>>>>> these contorted efforts to flame Tom. What would you do if
>>>>>>>>>>>> he was ill-advised enough to call out a cheery "Good
>>>>>>>>>>>> morning" to you? -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder why the stupid six can never stop for one minute to
>>>>>>>>>>> actually read what they wrote and understand just how stupid
>>>>>>>>>>> they are? Slow Johnny does lead the pack since he hasn't one
>>>>>>>>>>> iota of knowledge himself and couldn't for one second survive
>>>>>>>>>>> in the real world. Without his military retirement benefits
>>>>>>>>>>> and living in a country where the cost of living is low
>>>>>>>>>>> because people will even eat crickets, He would be a homeless
>>>>>>>>>>> person sleeping on a park bench in the USA.
>>>>>>>>>> Well... this member of the Superior Six is intelligent enough to
>>>>>>>>>> understand that the "Pacific Northwest National Laboratory" is
>>>>>>>>>> a unit
>>>>>>>>>> of United States Department of Energy national laboratories,
>>>>>>>>>> managed
>>>>>>>>>> by the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Science. and
>>>>>>>>>> thus isn't,
>>>>>>>>>> as the Irish Fool states, a "corporate entity"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is if andre the Arrogant says it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .>.... Actually I
>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't use the term "Irish Fool" as some Irish are quite
>>>>>>>>>> astute
>>>>>>>>>> .... Maybe "Fool in Ireland" would be a more accurate term.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And remember, he isn't Irish. He's part of the apartheid
>>>>>>>>> minority from south africa. The irony here is how he rails
>>>>>>>>> against socialism, yet _chooses_ to live in one of the most
>>>>>>>>> socialist and most liberal countries in europe. No, he's not an
>>>>>>>>> irish fool. That would be an insult to actual irish fools. You
>>>>>>>>> got it right the second time - he's just a fool in ireland.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for Tommy, well he is a fool and has exhibited his
>>>>>>>>>> foolishness for
>>>>>>>>>> at least the past 17 years, on the Web, so no need of a
>>>>>>>>>> descriptive
>>>>>>>>>> there. Just write his name and Bingo! The readers insert the
>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>> descriptive term automatically.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe that's why tommy keeps losing money in the stock market -
>>>>>>>>> he's trying to buy stock a government bureaucracy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you talk about Andy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know you meant to write And _re_, not And _y_. But for the
>>>>>>> uninitiated please be more careful. Andy is a knowledgeable and
>>>>>>> valuable contributor to this forum (political preferences
>>>>>>> notwithstanding). Andre is exactly as you note - though I would
>>>>>>> expand as "utterly no socially, politically, or intellectually
>>>>>>> redeeming values> "
>>>>>> A very good point. Andy is not Andre. That's one reason I say "Jute."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> - Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh you poor dumb fucks. Reams of ad hominem which merely proves
>>>>> your malicious ignorance over and over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the American government saved the American automobile
>>>>> industry, who do you think owned the shares taken as security:
>>>>> then-President Obama or a government institution?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Who do you think owned the securities underwriting Fannie Mae and
>>>>> Freddie Mac for most of their existence? Do you even know what a
>>>>> quango is?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You really should stay out of fields in which you have no
>>>>> knowledge, and leave them to lateral thinkers like Tom and me. You
>>>>> don't have what it takes, because you're small men with petty
>>>>> minds, semi-literate flunkies whose last achievement was getting a
>>>>> high school diploma.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Andre Jute
>>>>> Andre is never more brutal than he has to be. -- Nelson Mandela
>>>>>>
>>>> Jeff and Franik for college diploma's doing less work than it took
>>>> to get a high school diploma. If you have a diploma that is never
>>>> used for that which it is intended, you do not have a diploma.
>>>>
>>>> Slow Johnny thinks that he is so brilliant that he knows that today
>>>> I am making the same mistakes of trusting Obama or now Biden. Funny
>>>> that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market. Meanwhile, he
>>>> doesn't have a cent in the stock market. His entire world is tied up
>>>> in collecting his military retirement and living in a country that
>>>> has a very low cost of living. Too bad that Biden before his term is
>>>> up is going to devalue his military retirement to the point where
>>>> one Dollar is going to be worth one Baht.
>>> "Funny that I haven't lost a cent in the stock market."???
>>>
>>> And what was it, a month ago you were whining about all the money you
>>> lost when O'bama was president? Now you tell us that you haven't lost
>>> a cent?
>>> Are you lying again? Or did your memory slip a cog.
>>>
>>> As for my living? Well, I'll just say that I worked overseas for 30
>>> years and invested in local stock markets which did very well, thank
>>> you. And without going into details our current investments are
>>> largely in property and gold both of which are doing better then the
>>> inflation rate.
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> John B.
>>
>> Gold and real estate have done very well.  For fun, I get my fun in
>> unusual ways I guess, I looked at the various indices and gold between
>> Aug or Sep 2000, and today, Aug 12, 2022.  Here are the results,
>> percentage increase from 2000 to 2022:
>> Gold +557%
>> S&P 500 +225%
>> Dow +201%
>> Nasdaq +287%
>>
>> Real estate is also up a large amount in the past 22 years.
>>
>
> Gold does not change value; currencies depreciate against it.


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 by: Jeff Liebermann - Sat, 13 Aug 2022 15:27 UTC

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 01:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
<fiultra1@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 5:42:52 AM UTC+1, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
>> <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Do you even know what a quango is?
>> The term is British which might explain why US residents are not
>> familiar with the term. I have yet to see it used in the US even
>> though many US non-governmental organizations quality to be labeled a
>> quango:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_the_United_States>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_companies>

>Thanks, Jeff. I didn't read either of the two references you supplied: I would find their creeping socialism just too depressing. -- AJ

That's efficient. If you don't agree with something, just ignore
everything that suggests otherwise. With such filtering, you will
soon conclude that everyone agrees with your point of view. May I
suggest a different approach to filtering your reading material.

I tend to read articles with which I disagree. I see no need to read
anything that corroborates my biases, assertions, opinions, dogma,
common knowledge, etc because I'm quite familiar with them. However,
articles with which I disagree, by authors whom I find disagreeable,
in politically polarized publications, are much more interesting.
These give me new perspectives on literally every topic possible,
delivered using creative logic, carefully selected misinterpretations,
dry lab data, irreproducible mathematics, amazing facts, and other
proofs that I admittedly find fascinating. Reading such sources gives
me a fairly good idea of what the opposition is thinking and adds far
more to my accumulated knowledge than reading agreeable sources.

The view from the other side can be very different. Should I find
myself to be in error, it also gives me a clue what awaits me should I
decide to change sides. You should try it sometime. I think you'll
find reading the opposition to be far less boring than reading endless
reproductions of what you already assume to be true.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


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