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* local timeThomas Heger
+* Re: local timePaparios
|+- Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
|+* Re: local timeGary Harnagel
||+- Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
||`* Re: local timeUetake Matsumura
|| `- Re: local timeUetake Matsumura
|`* Re: local timeThomas Heger
| +* Re: local timeJulio Di Egidio
| |+* Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
| ||`* Re: local timeJulio Di Egidio
| || `- Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
| |+- Re: local timeGabriella Bouttier
| |`- Re: local timeThomas Heger
| `* Re: local timePaparios
|  `* Re: local timeThomas Heger
|   `* Re: local timePaparios
|    +- Re: local timeBuck Ehler
|    `- Re: local timeThomas Heger
+* Re: local timeJulio Di Egidio
|`* Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
| `- Re: local timeEmmett Bradshaw
+* Re: local timeEmmett Bradshaw
|+- Re: local timeEmmett Bradshaw
|`* Re: local timeJulio Di Egidio
| `- Re: local timeEmmett Bradshaw
+* Re: local timemitchr...@gmail.com
|`- Re: local timeThomas Heger
`* Re: local timeKen Seto
 `* Re: local timeMichael Moroney
  `* Re: local timeKen Seto
   `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
    +- Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
    `* Re: local timeKen Seto
     `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
      `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       +* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |`* Re: local timeKen Seto
       | `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |  `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   +* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |`* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   | `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |  `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |   `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |    +- Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |    `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |     `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |      `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |       `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |        `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |         `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |          `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           +* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |`* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           | `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |  `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   +* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |`* Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
       |   |           |   | `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |  +* Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
       |   |           |   |  |`* Re: local timePython
       |   |           |   |  | `- Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
       |   |           |   |  `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   +* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   |+* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||`* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   || `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||  `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||   `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||    +* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |`* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||    | `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |  `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||    |   +- Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |   `* Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   |           |   |   ||    |    +* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |    |`* Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   |           |   |   ||    |    | `- Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
       |   |           |   |   ||    |    +- Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
       |   |           |   |   ||    |    `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||    |     `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |      `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       +* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       |`* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       | +- Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       | `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       |  +- Re: local timemitchr...@gmail.com
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       |  `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       |   `* Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       |    `* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       |     +- Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       |     `- Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   ||    |       `- Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   |           |   |   ||    `* Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   |           |   |   ||     +- Re: local timemitchr...@gmail.com
       |   |           |   |   ||     `- Re: local timeMaciej Wozniak
       |   |           |   |   |`* Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   |   | `- Re: local timeOdd Bodkin
       |   |           |   |   `* Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   |           |   |    `- Re: local timeKen Seto
       |   |           |   `* Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   |           `- Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       |   `- Re: local timeMichael Moroney
       `* Re: local timeMichael Moroney

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Re: local time

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 by: Ken Seto - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:58 UTC

On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> > On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
> >>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
> >>>> you are.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
> >> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
> >
> > Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
> obsolete.

Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is obsolete......that’s how they make their living.
The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will continue for years to come. <sad>
>That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
> assertions to support his claim.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 14:01 UTC

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
>>>
>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
>> obsolete.
>
> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
> continue for years to come. <sad>

Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
models.

And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
will continue to complain about this for years to come.

>
>> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
>> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
>> assertions to support his claim.
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Ken Seto - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 14:27 UTC

On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> >>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
> >>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
> >>>>>> you are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
> >>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
> >>>
> >>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
> >> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
> >> obsolete.
> >
> > Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
> > obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
> > The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
> > continue for years to come. <sad>
> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
> models.

No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you, who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
>
> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
> will continue to complain about this for years to come.
> >
> >> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
> >> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
> >> assertions to support his claim.
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 15:06 UTC

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
>>>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
>>>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
>>>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
>>>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
>>>> obsolete.
>>>
>>> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
>>> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
>>> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
>>> continue for years to come. <sad>
>> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
>> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
>> models.
>
> No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you,
> who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live
> in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.

No, Ken, the problem is uneducated cranks like you who know nothing about
physics whatsoever deciding to dream something up and calling it “new
physics” that others should pay attention to, just because you crave
attention. Uneducated cranks calling their own bullshit “new physics” does
not suddenly remove the stink from the bullshit.

You are hosed. Not one person on earth is going to give your bullshit any
credence, just because YOU think it’s wonderful. It’s what OTHER people
think of it that counts, not what YOU think of it.

>>
>> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
>> will continue to complain about this for years to come.
>>>
>>>> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
>>>> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
>>>> assertions to support his claim.
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Ken Seto - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 15:15 UTC

On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:06:23 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
> >>>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
> >>>>>>>> you are.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
> >>>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
> >>>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
> >>>> obsolete.
> >>>
> >>> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
> >>> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
> >>> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
> >>> continue for years to come. <sad>
> >> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
> >> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
> >> models.
> >
> > No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you,
> > who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live
> > in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
> No, Ken, the problem is uneducated cranks like you who know nothing about
> physics whatsoever deciding to dream something up and calling it “new
> physics” that others should pay attention to, just because you crave
> attention. Uneducated cranks calling their own bullshit “new physics” does
> not suddenly remove the stink from the bullshit.

Moron, it is new physics when it is not the same as existing physics. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
>
> You are hosed. Not one person on earth is going to give your bullshit any
> credence, just because YOU think it’s wonderful. It’s what OTHER people
> think of it that counts, not what YOU think of it.
> >>
> >> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
> >> will continue to complain about this for years to come.
> >>>
> >>>> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
> >>>> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
> >>>> assertions to support his claim.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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On 8/11/2021 10:27 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
>>>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
>>>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
>>>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
>>>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
>>>> obsolete.
>>>
>>> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
>>> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
>>> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
>>> continue for years to come. <sad>
>> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
>> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
>> models.
>
> No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you, who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.

Stupid Ken, NOBODY is going to rush out to learn your failed Muddle
Mechanics just because you call it "new physics". Especially since you
are completely incompetent in standard physics. And especially since
your alleged "new physics" isn't physics at all since you offer no
evidence, no observations, no math, no example problems, no nothing.

Yes it's probably wrong to call your home for the indigent a "nursing
home", if caring for the mentally unfit doesn't fit the definition of a
nursing home.

>>
>> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
>> will continue to complain about this for years to come.

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 by: Michael Moroney - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 15:33 UTC

On 8/11/2021 11:15 AM, Ken Seto wrote:

> Moron, it is new physics when it is not the same as existing physics. Gee you are so fucking stupid.

Not if it's not even physics!

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Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:06:23 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
>>>>>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
>>>>>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
>>>>>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
>>>>>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
>>>>>> obsolete.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
>>>>> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
>>>>> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
>>>>> continue for years to come. <sad>
>>>> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
>>>> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
>>>> models.
>>>
>>> No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you,
>>> who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live
>>> in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
>> No, Ken, the problem is uneducated cranks like you who know nothing about
>> physics whatsoever deciding to dream something up and calling it “new
>> physics” that others should pay attention to, just because you crave
>> attention. Uneducated cranks calling their own bullshit “new physics” does
>> not suddenly remove the stink from the bullshit.
>
> Moron, it is new physics when it is not the same as existing physics. Gee
> you are so fucking stupid.

No, Ken, that’s not sufficient. It’s new physics when PHYSICISTS say it’s
new physics.

I’ll reiterate the key thing: What YOU think of your idea is completely
unimportant. What matters is what OTHER people think of it. If nobody else
in the world thinks it has any worth, then it’s worthless.

Like a book no one wants to read.

Like a patent on an invention that nobody wants to use.

Like a song nobody plays.

If you said, “But I wrote a wonderful book!” Or “But I have a patent on a
great idea” Or “But I wrote a great song” and nobody cared, it’s NOT AN
ACCOMPLISHMENT.

Having accomplished something depends on what OTHER PEOPLE think, not what
you think.

You think that’s unfair?

>>
>> You are hosed. Not one person on earth is going to give your bullshit any
>> credence, just because YOU think it’s wonderful. It’s what OTHER people
>> think of it that counts, not what YOU think of it.
>>>>
>>>> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
>>>> will continue to complain about this for years to come.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
>>>>>> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
>>>>>> assertions to support his claim.
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Local time is global...
Time is everywhere for light and the atom...

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 by: Ken Seto - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 20:51 UTC

On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:50:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:06:23 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
> >>>>>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
> >>>>>>>>>> you are.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
> >>>>>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
> >>>>>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
> >>>>>> obsolete.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
> >>>>> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
> >>>>> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
> >>>>> continue for years to come. <sad>
> >>>> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
> >>>> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
> >>>> models.
> >>>
> >>> No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you,
> >>> who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live
> >>> in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
> >> No, Ken, the problem is uneducated cranks like you who know nothing about
> >> physics whatsoever deciding to dream something up and calling it “new
> >> physics” that others should pay attention to, just because you crave
> >> attention. Uneducated cranks calling their own bullshit “new physics” does
> >> not suddenly remove the stink from the bullshit.
> >
> > Moron, it is new physics when it is not the same as existing physics. Gee
> > you are so fucking stupid.
> No, Ken, that’s not sufficient. It’s new physics when PHYSICISTS say it’s
> new physics.

Moron that’s enough.....you are uneducated in new physics so what you asserted is irrelevant.
>
> I’ll reiterate the key thing: What YOU think of your idea is completely
> unimportant. What matters is what OTHER people think of it. If nobody else
> in the world thinks it has any worth, then it’s worthless.
>
> Like a book no one wants to read.
>
> Like a patent on an invention that nobody wants to use.
>
> Like a song nobody plays.
>
> If you said, “But I wrote a wonderful book!” Or “But I have a patent on a
> great idea” Or “But I wrote a great song” and nobody cared, it’s NOT AN
> ACCOMPLISHMENT.
>
> Having accomplished something depends on what OTHER PEOPLE think, not what
> you think.
>
> You think that’s unfair?
> >>
> >> You are hosed. Not one person on earth is going to give your bullshit any
> >> credence, just because YOU think it’s wonderful. It’s what OTHER people
> >> think of it that counts, not what YOU think of it.
> >>>>
> >>>> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
> >>>> will continue to complain about this for years to come.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
> >>>>>> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
> >>>>>> assertions to support his claim.
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 21:21 UTC

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:50:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:06:23 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
>>>>>>>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
>>>>>>>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
>>>>>>>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
>>>>>>>> obsolete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
>>>>>>> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
>>>>>>> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
>>>>>>> continue for years to come. <sad>
>>>>>> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
>>>>>> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
>>>>>> models.
>>>>>
>>>>> No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you,
>>>>> who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live
>>>>> in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
>>>> No, Ken, the problem is uneducated cranks like you who know nothing about
>>>> physics whatsoever deciding to dream something up and calling it “new
>>>> physics” that others should pay attention to, just because you crave
>>>> attention. Uneducated cranks calling their own bullshit “new physics” does
>>>> not suddenly remove the stink from the bullshit.
>>>
>>> Moron, it is new physics when it is not the same as existing physics. Gee
>>> you are so fucking stupid.
>> No, Ken, that’s not sufficient. It’s new physics when PHYSICISTS say it’s
>> new physics.
>
> Moron that’s enough.....

Not in the real world. Maybe in YOUR mind it should be. But nobody cares
what a crazy old guy thinks, right?

> you are uneducated in new physics so what you asserted is irrelevant.
>>
>> I’ll reiterate the key thing: What YOU think of your idea is completely
>> unimportant. What matters is what OTHER people think of it. If nobody else
>> in the world thinks it has any worth, then it’s worthless.
>>
>> Like a book no one wants to read.
>>
>> Like a patent on an invention that nobody wants to use.
>>
>> Like a song nobody plays.
>>
>> If you said, “But I wrote a wonderful book!” Or “But I have a patent on a
>> great idea” Or “But I wrote a great song” and nobody cared, it’s NOT AN
>> ACCOMPLISHMENT.
>>
>> Having accomplished something depends on what OTHER PEOPLE think, not what
>> you think.
>>
>> You think that’s unfair?
>>>>
>>>> You are hosed. Not one person on earth is going to give your bullshit any
>>>> credence, just because YOU think it’s wonderful. It’s what OTHER people
>>>> think of it that counts, not what YOU think of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
>>>>>> will continue to complain about this for years to come.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
>>>>>>>> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
>>>>>>>> assertions to support his claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Ken Seto - Wed, 18 Aug 2021 17:23 UTC

On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:50:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:06:23 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail..com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
> >>>>>>>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
> >>>>>>>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
> >>>>>>>> obsolete.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
> >>>>>>> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
> >>>>>>> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
> >>>>>>> continue for years to come. <sad>
> >>>>>> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
> >>>>>> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
> >>>>>> models.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you,
> >>>>> who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live
> >>>>> in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
> >>>> No, Ken, the problem is uneducated cranks like you who know nothing about
> >>>> physics whatsoever deciding to dream something up and calling it “new
> >>>> physics” that others should pay attention to, just because you crave
> >>>> attention. Uneducated cranks calling their own bullshit “new physics” does
> >>>> not suddenly remove the stink from the bullshit.
> >>>
> >>> Moron, it is new physics when it is not the same as existing physics. Gee
> >>> you are so fucking stupid.
> >> No, Ken, that’s not sufficient. It’s new physics when PHYSICISTS say it’s
> >> new physics.
> >
> > Moron that’s enough.....
> Not in the real world. Maybe in YOUR mind it should be. But nobody cares
> what a crazy old guy thinks, right?
I was able to come up with a valid TOE. Physicists like you have no ideas after 110 years of trying. It’s a condition of a cult member of the SR religion. ,Sad>
>
> > you are uneducated in new physics so what you asserted is irrelevant.
> >>
> >> I’ll reiterate the key thing: What YOU think of your idea is completely
> >> unimportant. What matters is what OTHER people think of it. If nobody else
> >> in the world thinks it has any worth, then it’s worthless.
> >>
> >> Like a book no one wants to read.
> >>
> >> Like a patent on an invention that nobody wants to use.
> >>
> >> Like a song nobody plays.
> >>
> >> If you said, “But I wrote a wonderful book!” Or “But I have a patent on a
> >> great idea” Or “But I wrote a great song” and nobody cared, it’s NOT AN
> >> ACCOMPLISHMENT.
> >>
> >> Having accomplished something depends on what OTHER PEOPLE think, not what
> >> you think.
> >>
> >> You think that’s unfair?
> >>>>
> >>>> You are hosed. Not one person on earth is going to give your bullshit any
> >>>> credence, just because YOU think it’s wonderful. It’s what OTHER people
> >>>> think of it that counts, not what YOU think of it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
> >>>>>> will continue to complain about this for years to come.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
> >>>>>>>> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
> >>>>>>>> assertions to support his claim.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Michael Moroney - Thu, 19 Aug 2021 05:53 UTC

On 8/18/2021 1:23 PM, Ken Seto wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:50:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Moron, it is new physics when it is not the same as existing physics. Gee
>>>>> you are so fucking stupid.

>>>> No, Ken, that’s not sufficient. It’s new physics when PHYSICISTS say it’s
>>>> new physics.
>>>
>>> Moron that’s enough.....

>> Not in the real world. Maybe in YOUR mind it should be. But nobody cares
>> what a crazy old guy thinks, right?
>
> I was able to come up with a valid TOE.

You mean that you make assertions that you have a valid TOE. But
assertions aren't physics, new or old. You'll have to do better than
just assertions if you want to produce any new physics.

> Physicists like you have no ideas after 110 years of trying.

They have plenty of ideas. They perform observations and experiments to
see if their ideas have any merit. They do NOT make assertions and
proclaim the assertions to be true.

> It’s a condition of a cult member of the SR religion. ,Sad>

It's too bad that your mind has rotted so much that you can't tell the
difference between physics and religion.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Thu, 19 Aug 2021 16:46 UTC

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 5:22:01 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:50:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 11:06:23 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 10:01:17 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:32 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a woodworker. So you are uneducated in physics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don’t be silly. A woodworker can easily be more educated in physics than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah you are more educated in obsolete physics then I.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m more educated in what physicists consider physics than you are.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you are more educated in obsolete physics.
>>>>>>>>>> Real physicists don't consider the physics they work with to be
>>>>>>>>>> obsolete.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course physicists don’t consider that their physics is
>>>>>>>>> obsolete.....that’s how they make their living.
>>>>>>>>> The problem is that the model that base their work on is wrong, This will
>>>>>>>>> continue for years to come. <sad>
>>>>>>>> Well, the problem that uneducated cranks in nursing homes face is that
>>>>>>>> physicists won’t really care what the uneducated cranks think about their
>>>>>>>> models.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No moron, the problem is that uneducated morons in new physics, like you,
>>>>>>> who refuse to learn new physics. Instead, you argued wrongly that I live
>>>>>>> in a nursing home. Gee you are so fucking stupid.
>>>>>> No, Ken, the problem is uneducated cranks like you who know nothing about
>>>>>> physics whatsoever deciding to dream something up and calling it “new
>>>>>> physics” that others should pay attention to, just because you crave
>>>>>> attention. Uneducated cranks calling their own bullshit “new physics” does
>>>>>> not suddenly remove the stink from the bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moron, it is new physics when it is not the same as existing physics. Gee
>>>>> you are so fucking stupid.
>>>> No, Ken, that’s not sufficient. It’s new physics when PHYSICISTS say it’s
>>>> new physics.
>>>
>>> Moron that’s enough.....
>> Not in the real world. Maybe in YOUR mind it should be. But nobody cares
>> what a crazy old guy thinks, right?
>
> I was able to come up with a valid TOE. Physicists like you have no ideas
> after 110 years of trying. It’s a condition of a cult member of the SR religion. ,Sad>

You’re in the right place, in a home for the infirm where you can be cared
for.

>>
>>> you are uneducated in new physics so what you asserted is irrelevant.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll reiterate the key thing: What YOU think of your idea is completely
>>>> unimportant. What matters is what OTHER people think of it. If nobody else
>>>> in the world thinks it has any worth, then it’s worthless.
>>>>
>>>> Like a book no one wants to read.
>>>>
>>>> Like a patent on an invention that nobody wants to use.
>>>>
>>>> Like a song nobody plays.
>>>>
>>>> If you said, “But I wrote a wonderful book!” Or “But I have a patent on a
>>>> great idea” Or “But I wrote a great song” and nobody cared, it’s NOT AN
>>>> ACCOMPLISHMENT.
>>>>
>>>> Having accomplished something depends on what OTHER PEOPLE think, not what
>>>> you think.
>>>>
>>>> You think that’s unfair?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are hosed. Not one person on earth is going to give your bullshit any
>>>>>> credence, just because YOU think it’s wonderful. It’s what OTHER people
>>>>>> think of it that counts, not what YOU think of it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And you’re right, it’s pretty sad that uneducated cranks in nursing homes
>>>>>>>> will continue to complain about this for years to come.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is what matters, not what some nobody in some nursing
>>>>>>>>>> home calls obsolete. Especially when that nobody has nothing but
>>>>>>>>>> assertions to support his claim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>
>>
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>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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