I am a genius and can assure you that unless you are an expert in a subject, there is no way you can just get on the internet and Google your "research" thinking it is reliable. You don't know shit about the science of virology, epidemiology or most else. But how can you decide in such circumstances?

Well, you use your brain (yeah I know, most of you don't have one)! You look at the FACTS and the EVIDENCE.

The *facts* tells us the virus is real (Transmission Electron Microscope).
The *evidence* tells us millions of people are dying from this damn virus.

From past experience, vaccines saved humanity and were useful in eradicating the most dangerous pathogens (viruses and bacteria).

Even if the vaccines appear to fail, doing something is better than doing nothing.

Your stupidity is killing others (as did your vote for that prize scumbag Donald Trump and his con minions!) and eventually it will kill you!

The facts have been around for many decades. The evidence is not opinion journalist articles but the actual statistics: number of deaths.

This virus is a bitch from hell and it's only going to get worse the longer you do nothing. Old and unhealthy people are going to die, but the virus will mutate to beat the current vaccines and the next vaccine will have a lot more unpleasant side and long term effects.

Get vaccinated now, morons!

On Sunday, 1 August 2021 at 08:14:41 UTC-4, Eram semper recta wrote:
> I am a genius and can assure you that unless you are an expert in a subject, there is no way you can just get on the internet and Google your "research" thinking it is reliable. You don't know shit about the science of virology, epidemiology or most else. But how can you decide in such circumstances?
>
> Well, you use your brain (yeah I know, most of you don't have one)! You look at the FACTS and the EVIDENCE.
>
> The *facts* tells us the virus is real (Transmission Electron Microscope)..
> The *evidence* tells us millions of people are dying from this damn virus..
>
> From past experience, vaccines saved humanity and were useful in eradicating the most dangerous pathogens (viruses and bacteria).
>
> Even if the vaccines appear to fail, doing something is better than doing nothing.
>
> Your stupidity is killing others (as did your vote for that prize scumbag Donald Trump and his con minions!) and eventually it will kill you!
>
> The facts have been around for many decades. The evidence is not opinion journalist articles but the actual statistics: number of deaths.
>
> This virus is a bitch from hell and it's only going to get worse the longer you do nothing. Old and unhealthy people are going to die, but the virus will mutate to beat the current vaccines and the next vaccine will have a lot more unpleasant side and long term effects.
>
> Get vaccinated now, morons!

For those who want to wax eloquent, I don't care what you call those "blue spots" in the transmission electron microscope image. What I know for certain is that they are pathogenic because they appear only in those who are infected by Covid and most who die from the disease caused.

On 01/08/2021 13:14, Eram semper recta wrote:
> I am a genius and can assure you that unless you are an expert in a subject, there is no way you can just get on the internet and Google your "research" thinking it is reliable. You don't know shit about the science of virology, epidemiology or most else. But how can you decide in such circumstances?
>
> Well, you use your brain (yeah I know, most of you don't have one)! You look at the FACTS and the EVIDENCE.
>
> The *facts* tells us the virus is real (Transmission Electron Microscope).
> The *evidence* tells us millions of people are dying from this damn virus.
>
> From past experience, vaccines saved humanity and were useful in eradicating the most dangerous pathogens (viruses and bacteria).
>
> Even if the vaccines appear to fail, doing something is better than doing nothing.
>
> Your stupidity is killing others (as did your vote for that prize scumbag Donald Trump and his con minions!) and eventually it will kill you!
>
> The facts have been around for many decades. The evidence is not opinion journalist articles but the actual statistics: number of deaths.
>
> This virus is a bitch from hell and it's only going to get worse the longer you do nothing. Old and unhealthy people are going to die, but the virus will mutate to beat the current vaccines and the next vaccine will have a lot more unpleasant side and long term effects.
>
> Get vaccinated now, morons!
>

Why would we take orders from someone who appears to hate everyone?

--
Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
2014 - First Ya Gotta Shake The Gate - Funkadelic

On Sunday, 1 August 2021 at 08:33:18 UTC-4, Basil Jet wrote:
> On 01/08/2021 13:14, Eram semper recta wrote:
> > I am a genius and can assure you that unless you are an expert in a subject, there is no way you can just get on the internet and Google your "research" thinking it is reliable. You don't know shit about the science of virology, epidemiology or most else. But how can you decide in such circumstances?
> >
> > Well, you use your brain (yeah I know, most of you don't have one)! You look at the FACTS and the EVIDENCE.
> >
> > The *facts* tells us the virus is real (Transmission Electron Microscope).
> > The *evidence* tells us millions of people are dying from this damn virus.
> >
> > From past experience, vaccines saved humanity and were useful in eradicating the most dangerous pathogens (viruses and bacteria).
> >
> > Even if the vaccines appear to fail, doing something is better than doing nothing.
> >
> > Your stupidity is killing others (as did your vote for that prize scumbag Donald Trump and his con minions!) and eventually it will kill you!
> >
> > The facts have been around for many decades. The evidence is not opinion journalist articles but the actual statistics: number of deaths.
> >
> > This virus is a bitch from hell and it's only going to get worse the longer you do nothing. Old and unhealthy people are going to die, but the virus will mutate to beat the current vaccines and the next vaccine will have a lot more unpleasant side and long term effects.
> >
> > Get vaccinated now, morons!
> >
> Why would we take orders from someone who appears to hate everyone?

Because an inbreed idiot like you can't think for himself.

On Monday, 2 August 2021 at 01:19:45 UTC-4, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> >I am a genius
>
> Nope, you're just a crank.

A "crank" who thinks you ought to be vaccinated! LMAO.

It must such to be such a loser like you, eh Malum?

Notice any new pattern in your Lie groups so that you can complete your dissertation? No. Maybe some new pattern or property of cyclic groups? LMAO.

Well americans just figured out the are breathing atmosflat
and not atmosphere, do you think they will get vaccinated?

LMAO!

Eram semper recta schrieb am Sonntag, 1. August 2021 um 14:14:41 UTC+2:
> Get vaccinated now, morons!

flatearthers and geometric series legastenics (0.333... =/= 1/3 believers)
thats practically the same. They are all comrades of John Garbageiel.

LoL

Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Montag, 2. August 2021 um 13:07:37 UTC+2:
> Well americans just figured out the are breathing atmosflat
> and not atmosphere, do you think they will get vaccinated?
>
> LMAO!
>
> Eram semper recta schrieb am Sonntag, 1. August 2021 um 14:14:41 UTC+2:
> > Get vaccinated now, morons!

On 8/1/2021 5:14 AM, Eram semper recta wrote:
> I am a genius and can assure you that unless you are an expert in a subject, there is no way you can just get on the internet and Google your "research" thinking it is reliable. You don't know shit about the science of virology, epidemiology or most else. But how can you decide in such circumstances?
>
> Well, you use your brain (yeah I know, most of you don't have one)! You look at the FACTS and the EVIDENCE.
>
> The *facts* tells us the virus is real (Transmission Electron Microscope).
> The *evidence* tells us millions of people are dying from this damn virus.
>
> From past experience, vaccines saved humanity and were useful in eradicating the most dangerous pathogens (viruses and bacteria).
>
> Even if the vaccines appear to fail, doing something is better than doing nothing.
>
> Your stupidity is killing others (as did your vote for that prize scumbag Donald Trump and his con minions!) and eventually it will kill you!
>
> The facts have been around for many decades. The evidence is not opinion journalist articles but the actual statistics: number of deaths.
>
> This virus is a bitch from hell and it's only going to get worse the longer you do nothing. Old and unhealthy people are going to die, but the virus will mutate to beat the current vaccines and the next vaccine will have a lot more unpleasant side and long term effects.
>
> Get vaccinated now, morons!
>

The vaccine helps prevent serious illness, and can cafe your life. It
was never meant to stop a person from contracting the sars-cov-2 virus,
it is meant to prevent a bad experience from the disease, covid-19.

On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 5:33:18 AM UTC-7, Basil Jet wrote:
> >
> Why would we take orders from someone who appears to hate everyone?
>
> --
> Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
> 2014 - First Ya Gotta Shake The Gate - Funkadelic

They're fair?

On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 2:51:41 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >
> The vaccine helps prevent serious illness, and can cafe your life. It
> was never meant to stop a person from contracting the sars-cov-2 virus,
> it is meant to prevent a bad experience from the disease, covid-19.

Which ones?

On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 4:07:37 AM UTC-7, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Well americans just figured out the are breathing atmosflat
> and not atmosphere, do you think they will get vaccinated?
>

Half of them?

On 8/4/2021 9:55 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 2:51:41 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>> The vaccine helps prevent serious illness, and can cafe your life. It
>> was never meant to stop a person from contracting the sars-cov-2 virus,
>> it is meant to prevent a bad experience from the disease, covid-19.
>
> Which ones?
>

All of the sars-cov-2 vaccines, well, the mRna ones are meant to get
your body to generate the spike protein, then your body generates
antibodies to try and clear them out. Iirc Johnson & Johnson is not a
mRna vaccine, I think it is some sort of adenovirus. I am not sure if
they effect T cells and such, but the antibodies that are generated
should help prevent serious disease.

After serious thinking Ross A. Finlayson wrote :
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 2:51:41 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>> The vaccine helps prevent serious illness, and can cafe your life. It
>> was never meant to stop a person from contracting the sars-cov-2 virus,
>> it is meant to prevent a bad experience from the disease, covid-19.
>
> Which ones?

All of them, and not just the coronavirus ones.

On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 01:04:56 UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 8/4/2021 9:55 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 2:51:41 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >>>
> >> The vaccine helps prevent serious illness, and can cafe your life. It
> >> was never meant to stop a person from contracting the sars-cov-2 virus,
> >> it is meant to prevent a bad experience from the disease, covid-19.
> >
> > Which ones?
> >
> All of the sars-cov-2 vaccines, well, the mRna ones are meant to get
> your body to generate the spike protein, then your body generates
> antibodies to try and clear them out. Iirc Johnson & Johnson is not a
> mRna vaccine, I think it is some sort of adenovirus. I am not sure if
> they effect T cells and such, but the antibodies that are generated
> should help prevent serious disease.

Good interpretation!

One of the chief architects of covid misinformation is Dr. Joseph Mercola (a Trump acolyte who lives in Florida). He made a baseless claim that mRNA gets your body to go into a loop where it constantly produces "spike protein". Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA, so it's not going to be in the body forever, hence lowered protection as time passes. One might say that an indefinite timed release of mRNA might be a good thing. Who knows...

https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn

In my opinion, the J&J (adenovirus) vaccines are useless compared to mRNA.

So much for health misinformation, but we still have thousands of mainstream math morons who believe that 0.333... is well defined as 1/3. Tsk, tsk.

On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 09:51:12 UTC-4, Eram semper recta wrote:
> On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 01:04:56 UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > On 8/4/2021 9:55 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 2:51:41 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > >>>
> > >> The vaccine helps prevent serious illness, and can cafe your life. It
> > >> was never meant to stop a person from contracting the sars-cov-2 virus,
> > >> it is meant to prevent a bad experience from the disease, covid-19.
> > >
> > > Which ones?
> > >
> > All of the sars-cov-2 vaccines, well, the mRna ones are meant to get
> > your body to generate the spike protein, then your body generates
> > antibodies to try and clear them out. Iirc Johnson & Johnson is not a
> > mRna vaccine, I think it is some sort of adenovirus. I am not sure if
> > they effect T cells and such, but the antibodies that are generated
> > should help prevent serious disease.
> Good interpretation!
>
> One of the chief architects of covid misinformation is Dr. Joseph Mercola (a Trump acolyte who lives in Florida). He made a baseless claim that mRNA gets your body to go into a loop where it constantly produces "spike protein". Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA, so it's not going to be in the body forever, hence lowered protection as time passes. One might say that an indefinite timed release of mRNA might be a good thing. Who knows...
>
> https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn
>
> In my opinion, the J&J (adenovirus) vaccines are useless compared to mRNA..
>
> So much for health misinformation, but we still have thousands of mainstream math morons who believe that 0.333... is well defined as 1/3. Tsk, tsk.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/virginia-dad-documents-covid-19-treatment-facebook-videos-newday-vpx.cnn

Seeing is believing?

Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.

If at all, Antibodies attack the
Spike Proteins outside the dell.

Whats wrong with you? Clueles in Calculus,
and Clueless in Biology?

LoL

"Poly(A) tail removal is thought to disrupt the circular structure of
the message and destabilize the cap binding complex. The message is then
subject to degradation by either the exosome complex or the decapping
complex. In this way, translationally inactive messages can be destroyed
quickly, while active messages remain intact. The mechanism by which
translation stops and the message is handed-off to decay complexes is
not understood in detail."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA#Degradation

P.S.: There is also speculation that mRNA is reused:

Da hier mRNA auch – statt abgebaut zu werden – temporär zwischengelagert
werden kann für eine erneute Translation, sind damit zusätzliche
Regulationsweisen möglich.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA#Degradation

Eram semper recta schrieb:
> One of the chief architects of covid misinformationis Dr. Joseph Mercola (a Trump acolyte who lives in Florida).
He made a baseless claim that mRNA gets your body to go
into a loop where it constantly produces "spike protein".
Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the
bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA, so it's
not going to be in the body forever, hence lowered
protection as time passes. One might say that an indefinite timed
release of mRNA might be a good thing. Who knows...
>
> https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn
>
> In my opinion, the J&J (adenovirus) vaccines are useless compared to mRNA.
>
> So much for health misinformation, but we still have thousands of mainstream math morons who believe that 0.333... is well defined as 1/3. Tsk, tsk.
>

Maybe John Gabriel didn't get the point
that mRNA, messenger RNA is a template
to produce proteins.

Normally mRNA is derived from the DNA
in the cell. But through a drug delivery
mechanism it is smuggled into

the cell, where it is supposed to
produce the Spike protein, the antigen,
which then motivates the

production of antibodies. The process
takes a couple of days, ca. 14 days,
the antigen is quickly produced

in the first days, the antibody memory
takes more time.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.
>
> If at all, Antibodies attack the
> Spike Proteins outside the dell.
>
> Whats wrong with you? Clueles in Calculus,
> and Clueless in Biology?
>
> LoL
>
> "Poly(A) tail removal is thought to disrupt the circular structure of
> the message and destabilize the cap binding complex. The message is then
> subject to degradation by either the exosome complex or the decapping
> complex. In this way, translationally inactive messages can be destroyed
> quickly, while active messages remain intact. The mechanism by which
> translation stops and the message is handed-off to decay complexes is
> not understood in detail."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA#Degradation
>
> P.S.: There is also speculation that mRNA is reused:
>
> Da hier mRNA auch – statt abgebaut zu werden – temporär zwischengelagert
> werden kann für eine erneute Translation, sind damit zusätzliche
> Regulationsweisen möglich.
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA#Degradation
>
> Eram semper recta schrieb:
>> One of the chief architects of covid misinformationis Dr. Joseph
>> Mercola (a Trump acolyte who lives in Florida).
> He made a baseless claim that mRNA gets your body to go
> into a loop where it constantly produces "spike protein".
> Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the
> bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA, so it's
> not going to be in the body forever, hence lowered
> protection as time passes. One might say that an indefinite timed
> release of mRNA might be a good thing. Who knows...
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn
>>
>>
>> In my opinion, the J&J (adenovirus) vaccines are useless compared to
>> mRNA.
>>
>> So much for health misinformation, but we still have thousands of
>> mainstream math morons who believe that 0.333... is well defined as
>> 1/3. Tsk, tsk.
>>
>

Possibly production of new mRNA triggers decay of old mRNA,
by consuming material needed for the new mRNA? Since the
Vaccine mRNA is smuggled in, and not copied from some DNA,

there is no new production of the Vaccine mRNA. Its practially
doomed to decay sooner or later. Not sure. But maybe
Dr. Joseph Mercola found a knowledge gap, and is

now cannibalizing it. But this knowledge gap could be
also a knowledge gap from older literature. Here is some
newer literature:

The cytoplasmic abundance of mRNAs is strictly controlled
through a balance of production and degradation.
Elife 2018 Sep 7
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30192227/

Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:10:02 UTC+2:
> Maybe John Gabriel didn't get the point
> that mRNA, messenger RNA is a template
> to produce proteins.
>
> Normally mRNA is derived from the DNA
> in the cell. But through a drug delivery
> mechanism it is smuggled into
>
> the cell, where it is supposed to
> produce the Spike protein, the antigen,
> which then motivates the
>
> production of antibodies. The process
> takes a couple of days, ca. 14 days,
> the antigen is quickly produced
>
> in the first days, the antibody memory
> takes more time.
>
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> > Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> > The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.
> >
> > If at all, Antibodies attack the
> > Spike Proteins outside the dell.
> >
> > Whats wrong with you? Clueles in Calculus,
> > and Clueless in Biology?
> >
> > LoL
> >
> > "Poly(A) tail removal is thought to disrupt the circular structure of
> > the message and destabilize the cap binding complex. The message is then
> > subject to degradation by either the exosome complex or the decapping
> > complex. In this way, translationally inactive messages can be destroyed
> > quickly, while active messages remain intact. The mechanism by which
> > translation stops and the message is handed-off to decay complexes is
> > not understood in detail."
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA#Degradation
> >
> > P.S.: There is also speculation that mRNA is reused:
> >
> > Da hier mRNA auch – statt abgebaut zu werden – temporär zwischengelagert
> > werden kann für eine erneute Translation, sind damit zusätzliche
> > Regulationsweisen möglich.
> > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA#Degradation
> >
> > Eram semper recta schrieb:
> >> One of the chief architects of covid misinformationis Dr. Joseph
> >> Mercola (a Trump acolyte who lives in Florida).
> > He made a baseless claim that mRNA gets your body to go
> > into a loop where it constantly produces "spike protein".
> > Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the
> > bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA, so it's
> > not going to be in the body forever, hence lowered
> > protection as time passes. One might say that an indefinite timed
> > release of mRNA might be a good thing. Who knows...
> >>
> >> https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn
> >>
> >>
> >> In my opinion, the J&J (adenovirus) vaccines are useless compared to
> >> mRNA.
> >>
> >> So much for health misinformation, but we still have thousands of
> >> mainstream math morons who believe that 0.333... is well defined as
> >> 1/3. Tsk, tsk.
> >>
> >

Maybe the Vaccine mRNA intake inhibits some resident
mRNA production. But its not that one takes high doses of
Vaccine mRNA over a long time. So possibly no. Unlike some

anabolica, not a mRNA but a hormone. Used in sport doping with
quite some side effects, up to sudden death. Interestingly
anabolica also motivates the cell to produce some

protein, so will we see some similar side effects of mRNA, only
documented in the future when more data is available?
Maybe not, because Vaccines mRNA is consumed

like anabolica for sport doping. Otherwise the side effect
list is quite impressive:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabole_Steroide#Nebenwirkungen

Disclaimer: Didn't google some paper comparing Vaccine
mRNA and anabolica in terms of side effects. Maybe
there is an interesting paper?

Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:24:36 UTC+2:
> Possibly production of new mRNA triggers decay of old mRNA,
> by consuming material needed for the new mRNA? Since the
> Vaccine mRNA is smuggled in, and not copied from some DNA,
>
> there is no new production of the Vaccine mRNA. Its practially
> doomed to decay sooner or later. Not sure. But maybe
> Dr. Joseph Mercola found a knowledge gap, and is
>
> now cannibalizing it. But this knowledge gap could be
> also a knowledge gap from older literature. Here is some
> newer literature:
>
> The cytoplasmic abundance of mRNAs is strictly controlled
> through a balance of production and degradation.
> Elife 2018 Sep 7
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30192227/
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:10:02 UTC+2:
> > Maybe John Gabriel didn't get the point
> > that mRNA, messenger RNA is a template
> > to produce proteins.
> >
> > Normally mRNA is derived from the DNA
> > in the cell. But through a drug delivery
> > mechanism it is smuggled into
> >
> > the cell, where it is supposed to
> > produce the Spike protein, the antigen,
> > which then motivates the
> >
> > production of antibodies. The process
> > takes a couple of days, ca. 14 days,
> > the antigen is quickly produced
> >
> > in the first days, the antibody memory
> > takes more time.
> >
> > Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> > > Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> > > The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.
> > >
> > > If at all, Antibodies attack the
> > > Spike Proteins outside the dell.
> > >
> > > Whats wrong with you? Clueles in Calculus,
> > > and Clueless in Biology?
> > >
> > > LoL
> > >
> > > "Poly(A) tail removal is thought to disrupt the circular structure of
> > > the message and destabilize the cap binding complex. The message is then
> > > subject to degradation by either the exosome complex or the decapping
> > > complex. In this way, translationally inactive messages can be destroyed
> > > quickly, while active messages remain intact. The mechanism by which
> > > translation stops and the message is handed-off to decay complexes is
> > > not understood in detail."
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA#Degradation
> > >
> > > P.S.: There is also speculation that mRNA is reused:
> > >
> > > Da hier mRNA auch – statt abgebaut zu werden – temporär zwischengelagert
> > > werden kann für eine erneute Translation, sind damit zusätzliche
> > > Regulationsweisen möglich.
> > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA#Degradation
> > >
> > > Eram semper recta schrieb:
> > >> One of the chief architects of covid misinformationis Dr. Joseph
> > >> Mercola (a Trump acolyte who lives in Florida).
> > > He made a baseless claim that mRNA gets your body to go
> > > into a loop where it constantly produces "spike protein".
> > > Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the
> > > bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA, so it's
> > > not going to be in the body forever, hence lowered
> > > protection as time passes. One might say that an indefinite timed
> > > release of mRNA might be a good thing. Who knows...
> > >>
> > >> https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In my opinion, the J&J (adenovirus) vaccines are useless compared to
> > >> mRNA.
> > >>
> > >> So much for health misinformation, but we still have thousands of
> > >> mainstream math morons who believe that 0.333... is well defined as
> > >> 1/3. Tsk, tsk.
> > >>
> > >

Corr.:
Maybe not, because Vaccines mRNA is not consumed
like anabolica for sport doping.

Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:40:55 UTC+2:
> Maybe the Vaccine mRNA intake inhibits some resident
> mRNA production. But its not that one takes high doses of
> Vaccine mRNA over a long time. So possibly no. Unlike some
>
> anabolica, not a mRNA but a hormone. Used in sport doping with
> quite some side effects, up to sudden death. Interestingly
> anabolica also motivates the cell to produce some
>
> protein, so will we see some similar side effects of mRNA, only
> documented in the future when more data is available?
> Maybe not, because Vaccines mRNA is consumed
>
> like anabolica for sport doping. Otherwise the side effect
> list is quite impressive:
>
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabole_Steroide#Nebenwirkungen
>
> Disclaimer: Didn't google some paper comparing Vaccine
> mRNA and anabolica in terms of side effects. Maybe
> there is an interesting paper?
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:24:36 UTC+2:
> > Possibly production of new mRNA triggers decay of old mRNA,
> > by consuming material needed for the new mRNA? Since the
> > Vaccine mRNA is smuggled in, and not copied from some DNA,
> >
> > there is no new production of the Vaccine mRNA. Its practially
> > doomed to decay sooner or later. Not sure. But maybe
> > Dr. Joseph Mercola found a knowledge gap, and is
> >
> > now cannibalizing it. But this knowledge gap could be
> > also a knowledge gap from older literature. Here is some
> > newer literature:
> >
> > The cytoplasmic abundance of mRNAs is strictly controlled
> > through a balance of production and degradation.
> > Elife 2018 Sep 7
> > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30192227/
> > Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:10:02 UTC+2:
> > > Maybe John Gabriel didn't get the point
> > > that mRNA, messenger RNA is a template
> > > to produce proteins.
> > >
> > > Normally mRNA is derived from the DNA
> > > in the cell. But through a drug delivery
> > > mechanism it is smuggled into
> > >
> > > the cell, where it is supposed to
> > > produce the Spike protein, the antigen,
> > > which then motivates the
> > >
> > > production of antibodies. The process
> > > takes a couple of days, ca. 14 days,
> > > the antigen is quickly produced
> > >
> > > in the first days, the antibody memory
> > > takes more time.
> > >
> > > Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> > > > Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> > > > The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.
> > > >
> > > > If at all, Antibodies attack the
> > > > Spike Proteins outside the dell.
> > > >
> > > > Whats wrong with you? Clueles in Calculus,
> > > > and Clueless in Biology?
> > > >
> > > > LoL
> > > >
> > > > "Poly(A) tail removal is thought to disrupt the circular structure of
> > > > the message and destabilize the cap binding complex. The message is then
> > > > subject to degradation by either the exosome complex or the decapping
> > > > complex. In this way, translationally inactive messages can be destroyed
> > > > quickly, while active messages remain intact. The mechanism by which
> > > > translation stops and the message is handed-off to decay complexes is
> > > > not understood in detail."
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA#Degradation
> > > >
> > > > P.S.: There is also speculation that mRNA is reused:
> > > >
> > > > Da hier mRNA auch – statt abgebaut zu werden – temporär zwischengelagert
> > > > werden kann für eine erneute Translation, sind damit zusätzliche
> > > > Regulationsweisen möglich.
> > > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA#Degradation
> > > >
> > > > Eram semper recta schrieb:
> > > >> One of the chief architects of covid misinformationis Dr. Joseph
> > > >> Mercola (a Trump acolyte who lives in Florida).
> > > > He made a baseless claim that mRNA gets your body to go
> > > > into a loop where it constantly produces "spike protein".
> > > > Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the
> > > > bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA, so it's
> > > > not going to be in the body forever, hence lowered
> > > > protection as time passes. One might say that an indefinite timed
> > > > release of mRNA might be a good thing. Who knows...
> > > >>
> > > >> https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> In my opinion, the J&J (adenovirus) vaccines are useless compared to
> > > >> mRNA.
> > > >>
> > > >> So much for health misinformation, but we still have thousands of
> > > >> mainstream math morons who believe that 0.333... is well defined as
> > > >> 1/3. Tsk, tsk.
> > > >>
> > > >

On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 14:05:27 UTC-4, Swiss moron Jan Burse aka Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.

It does not simply decay, you moron. The cell destroys it.

In any case, who gives a fuck how it mRNA is removed from the body? The message is the same: mRNA does not go on to message the cell indefinitely. Once the message is received and the protein made, the cell itself degrades the mRNA and gets rid of it.

I am a mathematician, you fucking moron! I am not a biologist and you are NEITHER of these things.

It was an idiot like you called Euler who claimed S = Lim S. I destroyed your national hero and now you are mad?

On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 14:42:10 UTC-4, Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> Corr.:
> Maybe not, because Vaccines mRNA is not consumed
> like anabolica for sport doping.
> Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:40:55 UTC+2:
> > Maybe the Vaccine mRNA intake inhibits some resident
> > mRNA production. But its not that one takes high doses of
> > Vaccine mRNA over a long time. So possibly no. Unlike some
> >
> > anabolica, not a mRNA but a hormone. Used in sport doping with
> > quite some side effects, up to sudden death. Interestingly
> > anabolica also motivates the cell to produce some
> >
> > protein, so will we see some similar side effects of mRNA, only
> > documented in the future when more data is available?
> > Maybe not, because Vaccines mRNA is consumed
> >
> > like anabolica for sport doping. Otherwise the side effect
> > list is quite impressive:
> >
> > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabole_Steroide#Nebenwirkungen
> >
> > Disclaimer: Didn't google some paper comparing Vaccine
> > mRNA and anabolica in terms of side effects. Maybe
> > there is an interesting paper?
> > Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:24:36 UTC+2:
> > > Possibly production of new mRNA triggers decay of old mRNA,
> > > by consuming material needed for the new mRNA? Since the
> > > Vaccine mRNA is smuggled in, and not copied from some DNA,
> > >
> > > there is no new production of the Vaccine mRNA. Its practially
> > > doomed to decay sooner or later. Not sure. But maybe
> > > Dr. Joseph Mercola found a knowledge gap, and is
> > >
> > > now cannibalizing it. But this knowledge gap could be
> > > also a knowledge gap from older literature. Here is some
> > > newer literature:
> > >
> > > The cytoplasmic abundance of mRNAs is strictly controlled
> > > through a balance of production and degradation.
> > > Elife 2018 Sep 7
> > > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30192227/
> > > Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 20:10:02 UTC+2:
> > > > Maybe John Gabriel didn't get the point
> > > > that mRNA, messenger RNA is a template
> > > > to produce proteins.
> > > >
> > > > Normally mRNA is derived from the DNA
> > > > in the cell. But through a drug delivery
> > > > mechanism it is smuggled into
> > > >
> > > > the cell, where it is supposed to
> > > > produce the Spike protein, the antigen,
> > > > which then motivates the
> > > >
> > > > production of antibodies. The process
> > > > takes a couple of days, ca. 14 days,
> > > > the antigen is quickly produced
> > > >
> > > > in the first days, the antibody memory
> > > > takes more time.
> > > >
> > > > Mostowski Collapse schrieb:
> > > > > Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> > > > > The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.
> > > > >
> > > > > If at all, Antibodies attack the
> > > > > Spike Proteins outside the dell.
> > > > >
> > > > > Whats wrong with you? Clueles in Calculus,
> > > > > and Clueless in Biology?
> > > > >
> > > > > LoL
> > > > >
> > > > > "Poly(A) tail removal is thought to disrupt the circular structure of
> > > > > the message and destabilize the cap binding complex. The message is then
> > > > > subject to degradation by either the exosome complex or the decapping
> > > > > complex. In this way, translationally inactive messages can be destroyed
> > > > > quickly, while active messages remain intact. The mechanism by which
> > > > > translation stops and the message is handed-off to decay complexes is
> > > > > not understood in detail."
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA#Degradation
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S.: There is also speculation that mRNA is reused:
> > > > >
> > > > > Da hier mRNA auch – statt abgebaut zu werden – temporär zwischengelagert
> > > > > werden kann für eine erneute Translation, sind damit zusätzliche
> > > > > Regulationsweisen möglich.
> > > > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA#Degradation
> > > > >
> > > > > Eram semper recta schrieb:
> > > > >> One of the chief architects of covid misinformationis Dr. Joseph
> > > > >> Mercola (a Trump acolyte who lives in Florida).
> > > > > He made a baseless claim that mRNA gets your body to go
> > > > > into a loop where it constantly produces "spike protein".
> > > > > Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the
> > > > > bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA, so it's
> > > > > not going to be in the body forever, hence lowered
> > > > > protection as time passes. One might say that an indefinite timed
> > > > > release of mRNA might be a good thing. Who knows...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/05/dr-joseph-mercola-covid-misinformation-kaye-pkg-ac360-vpx.cnn
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In my opinion, the J&J (adenovirus) vaccines are useless compared to
> > > > >> mRNA.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So much for health misinformation, but we still have thousands of
> > > > >> mainstream math morons who believe that 0.333... is well defined as
> > > > >> 1/3. Tsk, tsk.
> > > > >>
> > > > >

SHUT UP MORON. You don't have a clue whereof you speak.

Well you wrote:
> Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the
> bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA

Seems there exist something like intrabody in the literature:

" Due to the lack of a reliable mechanism for bringing antibodies
into a living cell from the extracellular environment, this typically
requires the expression of the antibody within the target cell,
which can be accomplished in transgenic animals or by gene therapy."

Because naturally occurring antibodies are optimised to be secreted
from the cell, cytosolic intrabodies require special alterations, including
the use of single-chain antibodies (scFvs), modification of immunoglobulin
VL domains for hyperstability,[6] selection of antibodies resistant to

the more reducing cytosolic environment, or expression as a fusion
protein with maltose binding protein or other stable intracellular proteins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrabody_%28protein%29

Eram semper recta schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 23:28:02 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 14:05:27 UTC-4, Swiss moron Jan Burse aka Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> > Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> > The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.
> It does not simply decay, you moron. The cell destroys it.
>
> In any case, who gives a fuck how it mRNA is removed from the body? The message is the same: mRNA does not go on to message the cell indefinitely. Once the message is received and the protein made, the cell itself degrades the mRNA and gets rid of it.
>
> I am a mathematician, you fucking moron! I am not a biologist and you are NEITHER of these things.
>
> It was an idiot like you called Euler who claimed S = Lim S. I destroyed your national hero and now you are mad?

But intrabodies is rather for curing Alzheimer,
could be something for AP brain farto. LoL

Mostowski Collapse schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 23:55:51 UTC+2:
> Well you wrote:
> > Well, it doesn't even take a professional to dismiss the
> > bullshit because antibodies destroy the mRNA
> Seems there exist something like intrabody in the literature:
>
> " Due to the lack of a reliable mechanism for bringing antibodies
> into a living cell from the extracellular environment, this typically
> requires the expression of the antibody within the target cell,
> which can be accomplished in transgenic animals or by gene therapy."
>
> Because naturally occurring antibodies are optimised to be secreted
> from the cell, cytosolic intrabodies require special alterations, including
> the use of single-chain antibodies (scFvs), modification of immunoglobulin
> VL domains for hyperstability,[6] selection of antibodies resistant to
>
> the more reducing cytosolic environment, or expression as a fusion
> protein with maltose binding protein or other stable intracellular proteins.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrabody_%28protein%29
> Eram semper recta schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 23:28:02 UTC+2:
> > On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 14:05:27 UTC-4, Swiss moron Jan Burse aka Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> > > Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> > > The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.
> > It does not simply decay, you moron. The cell destroys it.
> >
> > In any case, who gives a fuck how it mRNA is removed from the body? The message is the same: mRNA does not go on to message the cell indefinitely. Once the message is received and the protein made, the cell itself degrades the mRNA and gets rid of it.
> >
> > I am a mathematician, you fucking moron! I am not a biologist and you are NEITHER of these things.
> >
> > It was an idiot like you called Euler who claimed S = Lim S. I destroyed your national hero and now you are mad?

John Gabriel wrote "I am a mathematician"

Best joke I heard this week.

Isnt John Gabriel the one that cant even determine the truth value of 3=<4 ?

LoL

Eram semper recta schrieb am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021 um 23:28:02 UTC+2:
> On Thursday, 5 August 2021 at 14:05:27 UTC-4, Swiss moron Jan Burse aka Mostowski Collapse wrote:
> > Antibodies do not destroy the mRNA.
> > The mRNA simply decays inside the cell.
> It does not simply decay, you moron. The cell destroys it.
>
> In any case, who gives a fuck how it mRNA is removed from the body? The message is the same: mRNA does not go on to message the cell indefinitely. Once the message is received and the protein made, the cell itself degrades the mRNA and gets rid of it.
>
> I am a mathematician, you fucking moron! I am not a biologist and you are NEITHER of these things.
>
> It was an idiot like you called Euler who claimed S = Lim S. I destroyed your national hero and now you are mad?