https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llo3eVfIa3o

"We need the feds to come in"

Bingo!

Same reason the last many decades criminalized men's natural authority in
marriage. Power is being centralized. First it was taken away from the
family. Now it will be taken away from the local police. I can't imagine the
latter being anything but another very slow process, perhaps taking many more
decades to accomplish. But who knows!

The "defund the police" thing is a continuation. All power is being
centralized, sucked up into Washington DC. The useful idiots have no idea
what's going on. Women disempowering and alienating their male counterparts,
now thugs and their thug politicians practically begging the federal
government to step in to rule and regulate them.

On 7/27/2021 7:36 PM, John Doe wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llo3eVfIa3o
>
> "We need the feds to come in"
>
> Bingo!
>
> Same reason the last many decades criminalized men's natural authority in
> marriage. Power is being centralized. First it was taken away from the
> family. Now it will be taken away from the local police. I can't imagine the
> latter being anything but another very slow process, perhaps taking many more
> decades to accomplish. But who knows!
>
> The "defund the police" thing is a continuation. All power is being
> centralized, sucked up into Washington DC. The useful idiots have no idea
> what's going on. Women disempowering and alienating their male counterparts
Man, she must've hurt you bad, huh.

"Marriage is the most important institution to civilize young people" (Ann
Coulter)

That's true. Marriage helped bring us out of the woods. Destroy marriage
and eventually civilization falls. That's happening.

But it's happening too gradually for people with their eyes closed to see.

This troll's usual baseless vague assertion, to do with its pathological
hang-ups about sex...

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> On 7/27/2021 7:36 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llo3eVfIa3o
>>
>> "We need the feds to come in"
>>
>> Bingo!
>>
>> Same reason the last many decades criminalized men's natural authority in
>> marriage. Power is being centralized. First it was taken away from the
>> family. Now it will be taken away from the local police. I can't imagine the
>> latter being anything but another very slow process, perhaps taking many more
>> decades to accomplish. But who knows!
>>
>> The "defund the police" thing is a continuation. All power is being
>> centralized, sucked up into Washington DC. The useful idiots have no idea
>> what's going on. Women disempowering and alienating their male counterparts
> Man, she must've hurt you bad, huh.
>
>

On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 19:48:37 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 7/27/2021 7:36 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llo3eVfIa3o
>>
>> "We need the feds to come in"
>>
>> Bingo!
>>
>> Same reason the last many decades criminalized men's natural authority in
>> marriage. Power is being centralized. First it was taken away from the
>> family. Now it will be taken away from the local police. I can't imagine the
>> latter being anything but another very slow process, perhaps taking many more
>> decades to accomplish. But who knows!
>>
>> The "defund the police" thing is a continuation. All power is being
>> centralized, sucked up into Washington DC. The useful idiots have no idea
>> what's going on. Women disempowering and alienating their male counterparts

>Man, she must've hurt you bad, huh.

Poor baby!

But natural authority in marriage? What's that?

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

> bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>> John Doe wrote:

>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llo3eVfIa3o
>>>
>>> "We need the feds to come in"
>>>
>>> Bingo!
>>>
>>> Same reason the last many decades criminalized men's natural authority
>>> in marriage. Power is being centralized. First it was taken away from
>>> the family. Now it will be taken away from the local police. I can't
>>> imagine the latter being anything but another very slow process,
>>> perhaps taking many more decades to accomplish. But who knows!
>>>
>>> The "defund the police" thing is a continuation. All power is being
>>> centralized, sucked up into Washington DC. The useful idiots have no
>>> idea what's going on. Women disempowering and alienating their male
>>> counterparts, now thugs and their thug politicians practically begging
>>> the federal government to step in to rule and regulate them.
>
>> Man, she must've hurt you bad, huh.

Why are you afraid to indicate your sex?

> Poor baby!

Can't live with them. Can't live without them.
One of my favorite expressions.
Tickles me silly.

> But natural authority in marriage? What's that?

It's like NOT being pussy whipped by SWMBO. So you wouldn't know.

Living in San Francisco, just grow eyes in the back of your head and
you'll be okay.

On 7/27/2021 8:28 PM, John Doe wrote:
> "Marriage is the most important institution to civilize young people" (Ann
> Coulter)

I doubt that, what kind of parenting whatever "young people" she's
talking about probably has has a much bigger influence, and there are
effectively zero qualifications to get married and/or have children in
America as far as I know.

How does marriage "civilize" anyone intrinsically, there some kind of
civilized-test to get married? I've known a hundred scumbags whose
parents probably had a beautiful lil wedding ceremony at a church with
bridesmaids and bouquets and cake and until-death-do-us-part vows and
all that shit, big fuckin' deal. Even Hitler and Stalin had a wife, so what.

> That's true. Marriage helped bring us out of the woods. Destroy marriage
> and eventually civilization falls. That's happening.

Marriage had existed a long time before your European ancestors gave up
their wolf-pelt cloaks and howling at the moon for a hobby, that's for
sure. And for most of the history of civilization marriage didn't work
like it does in modern America, anyway.

> But it's happening too gradually for people with their eyes closed to see.

Maybe everyone will turn gay tomorrow, who knows. Anything could happen
I guess

> This troll's usual baseless vague assertion, to do with its pathological
> hang-ups about sex...
>

You should try it sometime, you might feel better.

I said nothing about benefits to the adult partners. Benefiting the adult
partners is what cannibal leftists say marriage is for. The goal is to
completely destroy marriage and consequently destroy civilization.
Destruction is their thing.

Modern life is extremely complex. Biological parents naturally care more
about their children than anybody else in the world. Handed down from
generation to generation... Through nurturing, conversation, and
instruction, parents give their children immeasurable benefits. In the
modern world, that inheritance is invaluable for helping kids concentrate
on learning what the outside world expects of them.

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> On 7/27/2021 8:28 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> "Marriage is the most important institution to civilize young people" (Ann
>> Coulter)
>
> I doubt that, what kind of parenting whatever "young people" she's
> talking about probably has has a much bigger influence, and there are
> effectively zero qualifications to get married and/or have children in
> America as far as I know.
>
> How does marriage "civilize" anyone intrinsically, there some kind of
> civilized-test to get married? I've known a hundred scumbags whose
> parents probably had a beautiful lil wedding ceremony at a church with
> bridesmaids and bouquets and cake and until-death-do-us-part vows and
> all that shit, big fuckin' deal. Even Hitler and Stalin had a wife, so what.
>
>> That's true. Marriage helped bring us out of the woods. Destroy marriage
>> and eventually civilization falls. That's happening.
>
> Marriage had existed a long time before your European ancestors gave up
> their wolf-pelt cloaks and howling at the moon for a hobby, that's for
> sure. And for most of the history of civilization marriage didn't work
> like it does in modern America, anyway.
>
>> But it's happening too gradually for people with their eyes closed to see.
>
> Maybe everyone will turn gay tomorrow, who knows. Anything could happen
> I guess
>
>> This troll's usual baseless vague assertion, to do with its pathological
>> hang-ups about sex...
>>
>
> You should try it sometime, you might feel better.
>
>

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:31:42 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 19:48:37 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>
> >On 7/27/2021 7:36 PM, John Doe wrote:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llo3eVfIa3o
> >>
> >> "We need the feds to come in"
> >>
> >> Bingo!
> >>
> >> Same reason the last many decades criminalized men's natural authority in
> >> marriage. Power is being centralized. First it was taken away from the
> >> family. Now it will be taken away from the local police. I can't imagine the
> >> latter being anything but another very slow process, perhaps taking many more
> >> decades to accomplish. But who knows!
> >>
> >> The "defund the police" thing is a continuation. All power is being
> >> centralized, sucked up into Washington DC. The useful idiots have no idea
> >> what's going on. Women disempowering and alienating their male counterparts
>
> >Man, she must've hurt you bad, huh.
> Poor baby!
>
> But natural authority in marriage? What's that?

One of many right-wing delusions. Since John Doe is obviously a twit, it may be a device he tried to use against his partner to get her to accept one of his many silly ideas, and he's disappointed that it didn't work.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:11:26 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> > On 7/27/2021 8:28 PM, John Doe wrote:
> >>
> >> "Marriage is the most important institution to civilize young people" (Ann Coulter)

Anybody who takes Ann Coulter seriously has to be nuts - but we've known that John Doe is nuts for quite a while now.

> > I doubt that, what kind of parenting whatever "young people" she's
> > talking about probably has has a much bigger influence, and there are
> > effectively zero qualifications to get married and/or have children in
> > America as far as I know.
> >
> > How does marriage "civilize" anyone intrinsically, there some kind of
> > civilized-test to get married? I've known a hundred scumbags whose
> > parents probably had a beautiful lil wedding ceremony at a church with
> > bridesmaids and bouquets and cake and until-death-do-us-part vows and
> > all that shit, big fuckin' deal. Even Hitler and Stalin had a wife, so what.
> >
> >> That's true. Marriage helped bring us out of the woods. Destroy marriage
> >> and eventually civilization falls. That's happening.
> >
> > Marriage had existed a long time before your European ancestors gave up
> > their wolf-pelt cloaks and howling at the moon for a hobby, that's for
> > sure. And for most of the history of civilization marriage didn't work
> > like it does in modern America, anyway.

Marriage is just pair-bonding, and birds have been doing it a longer than the human species has existed.

> >> But it's happening too gradually for people with their eyes closed to see.

It isn't happening at all, but John Doe has his delusions ...

> > Maybe everyone will turn gay tomorrow, who knows. Anything could happen I guess.

That seems fairly improbable.
> >> This troll's usual baseless vague assertion, to do with its pathological hang-ups about sex...
> >
> > You should try it sometime, you might feel better.
>
> I said nothing about benefits to the adult partners. Benefiting the adult partners is what cannibal leftists say marriage is for. The goal is to completely destroy marriage and consequently destroy civilization. Destruction is their thing.

John Doe has loads of silly ideas, and quite a few of them are about what "leftists" want.
> Modern life is extremely complex. Biological parents naturally care more
> about their children than anybody else in the world. Handed down from
> generation to generation... Through nurturing, conversation, and
> instruction, parents give their children immeasurable benefits.

But if they are as deluded as John Doe, they also do quantifiable damage. Some of them see their kids as their property to sexually exploit for their own benefit.
The Catholic Church famously has a problem with priests who see their quasi-parental role in just that way.

> In the modern world, that inheritance is invaluable for helping kids concentrate on learning what the outside world expects of them.

Except that deluded idiots like John Doe have very silly ideas about what the outside world should expect from them

In reality, humans tend to rely on friends and relatives to do a lot of that. "It takes a village to raise a child".

A great deal of the process of getting a child to fit into society is done by the children that child grows up with - play mates and school mates.

This is much too complicated an idea for John Doe to get his head around, so he ignores it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:23:39 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:31:42 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 19:48:37 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >> >On 7/27/2021 7:36 PM, John Doe wrote:

<snip>

> >> >Man, she must've hurt you bad, huh.
> >> Poor baby!
> >>
> >> But natural authority in marriage? What's that?
> >
> > One of many right-wing delusions. Since John Doe is obviously a twit, it may be a device he tried to use against his partner to get her to accept one of his many silly ideas, and he's disappointed that it didn't work.
>
> Seems John would know, since he pretends to be religious.

Which John would that be? John Larkin doesn't seem to take religion seriously. He does seem to have been suckered by "intelligent design" but denies that it is religion in disguise. Phil Hobbs does take religion seriously, but that is rare around here.
>
> All you need do is look up the word HUSBAND (or other keywords) in the New Testament...

Which might tell you what some people thought about the subject about two thousand years ago.

> Being a scientist, I have figured out at least some of how the religious teaching applies to real life.

John Doe is now claiming to be a scientist. This isn't a credible claim. My attitude is that you have to have a paper published and cited in the peer-reviewed scientific literature before you can make that claim, and John Doe would have to tell us the name he used when he published the paper in order to manage that. Anonymous trolls don't qualify. Somebody as silly as John Doe would have trouble getting a paper published in the most undemanding of journals, and it could only be cited as horrible example.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

As ironically stated by the John Doe <always.look@message.header> troll
in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me> who has posted yet another
incorectly formatted USENET posting.

John Larkin wrote:
=================

> But natural authority in marriage? What's that?

** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.

..... Phil

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

As ironically stated by the John Doe <always.look@message.header> troll
in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me> who has posted yet another
incorectly formatted USENET posting on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 02:23:34 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <sdqf35$uem$4@dont-email.me>.

John Doe wrote:
==============
>
> Power is being centralized. First it was taken away from the
> family. Now it will be taken away from the local police.
>

** The cry: "defund the police" is a non solution to a non problem.

Same old politician's trick to baffle the congenitally dopey.
Invent an issue, say you have the solution and will implement it soon as you elect them.

...... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Larkin wrote:

>> But natural authority in marriage? What's that?

> ** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.

Here in America, the woman is in charge. But naturally there is at least some
trust required, given the fact either partner has opportunity to kill the
other (or like in the Lorena Bobbitt's case, she can slice off his penis).

On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 20:46:25 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
>=================
>
>> But natural authority in marriage? What's that?
>
>
>** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
>
>
>.... Phil

In charge? Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
doormat?

Lots of guys, actually.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The best designs are necessarily accidental.

Got roasted in (sci.electronics.repair), then hung around just
to take potshots at all the posters that roasted it.

Can you say "weirdo".
I knew you could!

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>
> As ironically stated by the John Doe <always.look@message.header> troll
> in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me> who has posted yet another
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>

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> Phil Allison wrote:
>> John Larkin wrote:

>>> But natural authority in marriage? What's that?
>>
>>
>>** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.

> In charge?

Yes, like SWMBO.

> Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
> doormat?

You are a doormat?

> Lots of guys, actually.

You are married to a guy?

That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
can be a doormat. You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
doormat here in America. If you actually think that, you are in for a deathly
shock if and when things go bad.

John Doe wrote:
===============
>Phil Allison:
>
> >>** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
> > In charge?
>
> Yes, like SWMBO.
> > Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
> > doormat?
> You are a doormat?
>
> > Lots of guys, actually.
>
> You are married to a guy?
>
> That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
> can be a doormat.

** Change doormat to doormouse.

>You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
> doormat here in America.

** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?

A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land.
Walking 10 paces behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....

...... Phil

Phil Allison wrote:

> ** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
>
> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully
> well for themselves here in Aussie land. Walking 10 paces behind their
> husbands - metaphorically speaking ....

The law heavily favors wives here.

If she felt like it, she would just make his life miserable for her
citizen husband. Lay a hand on her and it's over. She would be granted a
divorce and the right to stay here. I regularly hear about special
permissions for illegals who experience domestic violence. The feds are
gung ho about domestic violence. Beating up on Indians who touch their
wives the wrong way is an excuse the feds used for convincing our Supreme
Court to ignore our constitution's Double Jeopardy Clause.

Contrary to what cannibal leftist snowflakes pretend, Indians are behind
the white man on proper treatment of their wives.

John Doe wrote:
==============
>
> Contrary to what cannibal leftist snowflakes pretend, Indians are behind
> the white man on proper treatment of their wives.

** Just to be clear - Indians = native Americans ?

Not "Dave" doing Microsoft support from Mumbai ?

..... Phil

On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 23:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:
>===============
>>Phil Allison:
>>
>> >>** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
>> > In charge?
>>
>> Yes, like SWMBO.
>> > Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
>> > doormat?
>> You are a doormat?
>>
>> > Lots of guys, actually.
>>
>> You are married to a guy?
>>
>> That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
>> can be a doormat.
>
>** Change doormat to doormouse.
>
>>You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
>> doormat here in America.
>
>** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
>
>A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land.
>Walking 10 paces behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
>
>
>..... Phil

Cultures where the ladies let the men *think* they're in charge.

Lots of guys don't mind being led around by the nose, or whatever, if
it's done non-confrontationally. All that charming scheming..
--
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 2:06:29 AM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> John Doe wrote:
> ===============
> >Phil Allison:
> >
> > >>** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
> > > In charge?
> >
> > Yes, like SWMBO.
> > > Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
> > > doormat?
> > You are a doormat?
> >
> > > Lots of guys, actually.
> >
> > You are married to a guy?
> >
> > That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
> > can be a doormat.
> ** Change doormat to doormouse.
> >You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
> > doormat here in America.
> ** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
>
> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land.
> Walking 10 paces behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
>
because in their native country they walked 20 paces behind
>
> ..... Phil

On 7/28/2021 3:17 AM, John Doe wrote:
> Phil Allison wrote:
>
>> ** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
>>
>> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully
>> well for themselves here in Aussie land. Walking 10 paces behind their
>> husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
>
> The law heavily favors wives here.
>
> If she felt like it, she would just make his life miserable for her
> citizen husband. Lay a hand on her and it's over. She would be granted a
> divorce and the right to stay here. I regularly hear about special
> permissions for illegals who experience domestic violence. The feds are
> gung ho about domestic violence.

I figure men who hit their wives or girlfriends tend to deserve what
they get if they get caught, given that it's so easy for a "civilized
adult" not to.

That law enforcement and the legal system doesn't reliably take the
reverse situation very seriously tends to be because that's how the
majority men who run the law enforcement and legal systems tend to treat
it, it's not because women put a gun to their head and forced them to. A
man who complains about his wife hitting him is a lil pussy, to their
estimation - did women make them think that?

On 7/28/2021 6:54 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 23:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
> <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> John Doe wrote:
>> ===============
>>> Phil Allison:
>>>
>>>>> ** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
>>>> In charge?
>>>
>>> Yes, like SWMBO.
>>>> Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
>>>> doormat?
>>> You are a doormat?
>>>
>>>> Lots of guys, actually.
>>>
>>> You are married to a guy?
>>>
>>> That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
>>> can be a doormat.
>>
>> ** Change doormat to doormouse.
>>
>>> You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
>>> doormat here in America.
>>
>> ** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
>>
>> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land.
>> Walking 10 paces behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
>>
>>
>> ..... Phil
>
> Cultures where the ladies let the men *think* they're in charge.
>
> Lots of guys don't mind being led around by the nose, or whatever, if
> it's done non-confrontationally. All that charming scheming..
>

I get that there are a lot of men who think women are manipulating them,
but it takes a certain kind of arrogance to believe that there are a lot
of women who'd find this worth their time to begin with, or that it
really requires much in the way of sophisticated "scheming" in the first
place...