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* OT: Why defund the police?John Doe
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|     `* Re: OT: Why defund the police?Brent Locher
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 by: bitrex - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 05:20 UTC

On 7/28/2021 3:19 PM, John Doe wrote:
> The problem isn't to do with individual men. Individual rights would be
> great if we reproduced individually. The problem boils down to how women
> view humankind.

Talking about how "women view" things as if women are a monolithic
entity and share some kind of hive-mind where they coordinate their
thoughts about things, is dumb

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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 06:19 UTC

On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:20:36 AM UTC+10, bitrex wrote:
> On 7/28/2021 6:54 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 23:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
> > <palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> John Doe wrote:
> >> ===============
> >>> Phil Allison:
> >>>
> >>>>> ** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
> >>>> In charge?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, like SWMBO.
> >>>> Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
> >>>> doormat?
> >>> You are a doormat?
> >>>
> >>>> Lots of guys, actually.
> >>>
> >>> You are married to a guy?
> >>>
> >>> That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
> >>> can be a doormat.
> >>
> >> ** Change doormat to doormouse.
> >>
> >>> You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
> >>> doormat here in America.
> >>
> >> ** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
> >>
> >> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land.
> >> Walking 10 paces behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
> >>
> >>
> >> ..... Phil
> >
> > Cultures where the ladies let the men *think* they're in charge.
> >
> > Lots of guys don't mind being led around by the nose, or whatever, if
> > it's done non-confrontationally. All that charming scheming..
> >
> I get that there are a lot of men who think women are manipulating them,
> but it takes a certain kind of arrogance to believe that there are a lot
> of women who'd find this worth their time to begin with, or that it
> really requires much in the way of sophisticated "scheming" in the first
> place...

** This dude has never heard about the famous excuse women use to marry an ill suited man.

" I'll alter him .... "

...... Phil

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 by: John Doe - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 09:57 UTC

The silly troll acts like there's no such thing as the League of Women
Voters or all the other man hating feminist groups. It's suggesting all
the man-hating law enacted over the last many decades, especially do with
so-called domestic violence, was actually voted for by men. Yes, men love
to take all their rights away, like losing their Second Amendment rights
over a misdemeanor domestic violence charge, no doubt that was enacted by
men...

Ann Coulter has much better research resources than I do, and even she
commented on the nonexistence of information about how women vote. You can
find demographics about minorities and everything else, everything except
WOMEN. Obviously because the Deep State doesn't want you to know. How do
women vote on illegal immigration? How do women vote on forced gender
equality and domestic violence law? How do women vote on outsourcing and
mandatory E-Verify?

This is rich!

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> On 7/28/2021 3:19 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> The problem isn't to do with individual men. Individual rights would be
>> great if we reproduced individually. The problem boils down to how women
>> view humankind.
>
> Talking about how "women view" things as if women are a monolithic
> entity and share some kind of hive-mind where they coordinate their
> thoughts about things, is dumb
>

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 by: John Doe - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 10:04 UTC

John says "ignore him", like a FAKE Christian who runs away like a little
dog with its tail tucked between its legs at the mention of the New
Testament...

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> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 20:26:34 -0000 (UTC), Edward Hernandez
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>
>>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>>
>>As ironically stated by the John Doe <always.look@message.header> troll
>>in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me> who has posted yet another
>>incorectly formatted USENET posting on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:08:27 -0000
>>(UTC) in message-id <sds9vb$9t8$4@dont-email.me>.
>
> Really Edward, that's not helping.
>
> Ignore him.
>
>
>
> --
>
> John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
>
> The best designs are necessarily accidental.
>
>
>
>

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 by: Anthony William Slom - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 11:56 UTC

On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 7:57:11 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> > On 7/28/2021 3:19 PM, John Doe wrote:
> >> The problem isn't to do with individual men. Individual rights would be
> >> great if we reproduced individually. The problem boils down to how women
> >> view humankind.
> >
> > Talking about how "women view" things as if women are a monolithic
> > entity and share some kind of hive-mind where they coordinate their
> > thoughts about things, is dumb.
>
> The silly troll acts like there's no such thing as the League of Women
> Voters or all the other man hating feminist groups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Women_Voters

goes back to 1920, and was founded just before American women got vote. They aren't actually man-hating or feminist, and they aren';t any kind of manifestion of some kind of hive mind.

> It's suggesting all the man-hating law enacted over the last many decades, especially do with so-called domestic violence, was actually voted for by men. Yes, men love to take all their rights away, like losing their Second Amendment rights over a misdemeanor domestic violence charge, no doubt that was enacted by men...

Probably was. There are men around who understand that domestic violence is a crime and needs to be discouraged. John Doe doesn't seem to be one of them.
> Ann Coulter has much better research resources than I do, and even she commented on the nonexistence of information about how women vote.

America does have a secret ballot system. You can ask people how they voted, and some of them may tell you, but running that sort of survey costs money.

> You can find demographics about minorities and everything else, everything except WOMEN. Obviously because the Deep State doesn't want you to know.. How do women vote on illegal immigration? How do women vote on forced gender equality and domestic violence law? How do women vote on outsourcing and mandatory E-Verify?

Her assertion would seem to imply nobody is prepared to pay for that kind of survey. It's more likely that some people do pay, but aren't prepared to give the results to Ann Coulter for nothing.

> This is rich!

The top-posting troll has quite a few comical misapprehensions. This seems to be another one of them.

-- '
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 13:38 UTC

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 01:20:46 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 7/28/2021 3:19 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> The problem isn't to do with individual men. Individual rights would be
>> great if we reproduced individually. The problem boils down to how women
>> view humankind.
>
>Talking about how "women view" things as if women are a monolithic
>entity and share some kind of hive-mind where they coordinate their
>thoughts about things, is dumb

The human sexes are statistically different. About half have Y
chromosones. There is of course some overlap in other things.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The best designs are necessarily accidental.

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> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

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> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

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 by: bitrex - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:37 UTC

On 7/29/2021 5:57 AM, John Doe wrote:
> The silly troll acts like there's no such thing as the League of Women
> Voters or all the other man hating feminist groups. It's suggesting all
> the man-hating law enacted over the last many decades, especially do with
> so-called domestic violence, was actually voted for by men.

'fraid in large part that's true. Did you know that millions of men sign
up to go to a place called a church where they're told that they're all
lustful sinners and intrinsically evil by nature, while women are angels
and can do no wrong? Yes, and many of them even pay for this privilege.

Yes, men love
> to take all their rights away, like losing their Second Amendment rights
> over a misdemeanor domestic violence charge, no doubt that was enacted by
> men...

Lol, there is no fuckin' "brotherhood of man", bro, where every man with
power calculates his actions to be for the benefit of every man under
the sun. The men with power don't set things up that way to take their
OWN privileges and pussy away! They do it to take YOURS!

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 by: bitrex - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:50 UTC

On 7/29/2021 9:38 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 01:20:46 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On 7/28/2021 3:19 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>> The problem isn't to do with individual men. Individual rights would be
>>> great if we reproduced individually. The problem boils down to how women
>>> view humankind.
>>
>> Talking about how "women view" things as if women are a monolithic
>> entity and share some kind of hive-mind where they coordinate their
>> thoughts about things, is dumb
>
> The human sexes are statistically different. About half have Y
> chromosones. There is of course some overlap in other things.
>

Sex differences don't determine politics, and it's silly to talk about
women (or men for that matter) as a monolithic entity with respect to
statements like "what women think." Women think all kids of things with
respect to most topics same as men do, they come in many types good bad
and indifferent, and there are likely almost as many women who would
prefer men to be as gunned-up as possible as there are who want to strip
men of their right to bear arms.

Some of the most viciously racist things I've ever heard someone say
were said by women, too.

Why would a woman want me to be all gunned-up, anyway? To shoot at other
men, I would suppose...doesn't exactly sound like that's in men's best
interests, either...

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On 7/29/2021 2:19 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:20:36 AM UTC+10, bitrex wrote:
>> On 7/28/2021 6:54 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 23:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
>>> <palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Doe wrote:
>>>> ===============
>>>>> Phil Allison:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
>>>>>> In charge?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, like SWMBO.
>>>>>> Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
>>>>>> doormat?
>>>>> You are a doormat?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of guys, actually.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are married to a guy?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
>>>>> can be a doormat.
>>>>
>>>> ** Change doormat to doormouse.
>>>>
>>>>> You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
>>>>> doormat here in America.
>>>>
>>>> ** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
>>>>
>>>> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land.
>>>> Walking 10 paces behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ..... Phil
>>>
>>> Cultures where the ladies let the men *think* they're in charge.
>>>
>>> Lots of guys don't mind being led around by the nose, or whatever, if
>>> it's done non-confrontationally. All that charming scheming..
>>>
>> I get that there are a lot of men who think women are manipulating them,
>> but it takes a certain kind of arrogance to believe that there are a lot
>> of women who'd find this worth their time to begin with, or that it
>> really requires much in the way of sophisticated "scheming" in the first
>> place...
>
> ** This dude has never heard about the famous excuse women use to marry an ill suited man.
>
> " I'll alter him .... "
>
>
> ..... Phil
>

The savior-role is a role both men and women play sometimes, though they
play the role differently it's still the same role. Often the save-ee
knows they probably do need some kind of "altering" but the fact that
it's rarely successful is incidental.

Usually the save-ee or savior eventually gets fed up and moves on to the
next one. And the next. And maybe back to the first. Round and round.

Those type of relationships tend to be more of a devil's tango than one
with any identifiable 100% victim.

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 by: Lasse Langwadt Chris - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:55 UTC

fredag den 30. juli 2021 kl. 00.43.30 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
> On 7/29/2021 2:19 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:20:36 AM UTC+10, bitrex wrote:
> >> On 7/28/2021 6:54 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 23:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
> >>> <palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> John Doe wrote:
> >>>> ===============
> >>>>> Phil Allison:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> ** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
> >>>>>> In charge?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, like SWMBO.
> >>>>>> Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
> >>>>>> doormat?
> >>>>> You are a doormat?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Lots of guys, actually.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are married to a guy?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
> >>>>> can be a doormat.
> >>>>
> >>>> ** Change doormat to doormouse.
> >>>>
> >>>>> You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
> >>>>> doormat here in America.
> >>>>
> >>>> ** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
> >>>>
> >>>> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land.
> >>>> Walking 10 paces behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ..... Phil
> >>>
> >>> Cultures where the ladies let the men *think* they're in charge.
> >>>
> >>> Lots of guys don't mind being led around by the nose, or whatever, if
> >>> it's done non-confrontationally. All that charming scheming..
> >>>
> >> I get that there are a lot of men who think women are manipulating them,
> >> but it takes a certain kind of arrogance to believe that there are a lot
> >> of women who'd find this worth their time to begin with, or that it
> >> really requires much in the way of sophisticated "scheming" in the first
> >> place...
> >
> > ** This dude has never heard about the famous excuse women use to marry an ill suited man.
> >
> > " I'll alter him .... "
> >
> >
> > ..... Phil
> >
> The savior-role is a role both men and women play sometimes, though they
> play the role differently it's still the same role. Often the save-ee
> knows they probably do need some kind of "altering" but the fact that
> it's rarely successful is incidental.
>
> Usually the save-ee or savior eventually gets fed up and moves on to the
> next one. And the next. And maybe back to the first. Round and round.
>
> Those type of relationships tend to be more of a devil's tango than one
> with any identifiable 100% victim.

Erin Pizzey who started shelters for domestic abuse victims, was boycottet and
received death threats, for saying that domestic abuse was often reciprocal
"broken people, beating up broken people"

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bitrex is brainless wrote:

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>
> > ** This dude has never heard about the famous excuse women use to marry an ill suited man.
> >
> > " I'll alter him .... "
> >
>
> The savior-role is a role both men and women play sometimes,
>

** That is not what the wedding excuse means.

"bitrex" is the *poster boy* for the Dunning Kruger effect:

https://www.britannica.com/science/Dunning-Kruger-effect

...... Phil

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lang...@fonz.dk wrote:

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>
> Erin Pizzey who started shelters for domestic abuse victims, was boycottet and
> received death threats, for saying that domestic abuse was often reciprocal
> "broken people, beating up broken people"

** The " domestic violence industry " relies on the false assumption that men are the culprits and women the innocent victims.

So much so, that no mention of women culprits or beaten men is ever allowed.
In truth, it about 50/50 in terms of initiators.

IIRC

what Ms Pizzey found was that all donations dried up soon as she spoke the truth.

Same applies today.

....... Phil

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On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 12:04:44 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
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> > Erin Pizzey who started shelters for domestic abuse victims, was boycottet and
> > received death threats, for saying that domestic abuse was often reciprocal
> > "broken people, beating up broken people".
>
> ** The " domestic violence industry " relies on the false assumption that men are the culprits and women the innocent victims.

I can't say I've noticed this.
> So much so, that no mention of women culprits or beaten men is ever allowed.
> In truth, it about 50/50 in terms of initiators.

Men do a lot more damage than women - women may initiate violence just as often, but men do tend to be stronger and better practiced at inflicting damage.

> IIRC
>
> what Ms Pizzey found was that all donations dried up soon as she spoke the truth.
>
> Same applies today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

Some donations might have dried up. She stayed active for at least thirty years, until she got cancer which seems to have slowed her down a bit, which does suggest that she did keep on getting some support. Phil's capacity for remembering things correctly isn't great.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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The Slowman Troll Puked:

> >
> > ** The " domestic violence industry " relies on the false assumption that men are the culprits
> > and women the innocent victims.

> I can't say I've noticed this.

** Who gives a flying fuck about that?

> > So much so, that no mention of women culprits or beaten men is ever allowed.
> > In truth, it about 50/50 in terms of initiators.

> Men do a lot more damage than women

** Bullshit.

>
> > what Ms Pizzey found was that all donations dried up soon as she spoke the truth.
> >
> > Same applies today.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey
>
> Some donations might have dried up.

** Yawnnnnnnnn......

> She stayed active for at least thirty years,

** Massive irrelevance to what she found and is still true.

Whether fucking retards like Slowman know or not.

....... Phil

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 by: bitrex - Fri, 30 Jul 2021 04:19 UTC

On 7/29/2021 7:55 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> fredag den 30. juli 2021 kl. 00.43.30 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
>> On 7/29/2021 2:19 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:20:36 AM UTC+10, bitrex wrote:
>>>> On 7/28/2021 6:54 AM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 23:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
>>>>> <palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> John Doe wrote:
>>>>>> ===============
>>>>>>> Phil Allison:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** The adult in the partnership should be in charge - if there is one.
>>>>>>>> In charge?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, like SWMBO.
>>>>>>>> Who would be so insecure that they want to be married to a
>>>>>>>> doormat?
>>>>>>> You are a doormat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lots of guys, actually.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are married to a guy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a straw man. Any experienced adult knows better than to think a wife
>>>>>>> can be a doormat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** Change doormat to doormouse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You must be CRAZY to think the female partner can be a
>>>>>>> doormat here in America.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** You don't have "mail order brides" in the USA ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land.
>>>>>> Walking 10 paces behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..... Phil
>>>>>
>>>>> Cultures where the ladies let the men *think* they're in charge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of guys don't mind being led around by the nose, or whatever, if
>>>>> it's done non-confrontationally. All that charming scheming..
>>>>>
>>>> I get that there are a lot of men who think women are manipulating them,
>>>> but it takes a certain kind of arrogance to believe that there are a lot
>>>> of women who'd find this worth their time to begin with, or that it
>>>> really requires much in the way of sophisticated "scheming" in the first
>>>> place...
>>>
>>> ** This dude has never heard about the famous excuse women use to marry an ill suited man.
>>>
>>> " I'll alter him .... "
>>>
>>>
>>> ..... Phil
>>>
>> The savior-role is a role both men and women play sometimes, though they
>> play the role differently it's still the same role. Often the save-ee
>> knows they probably do need some kind of "altering" but the fact that
>> it's rarely successful is incidental.
>>
>> Usually the save-ee or savior eventually gets fed up and moves on to the
>> next one. And the next. And maybe back to the first. Round and round.
>>
>> Those type of relationships tend to be more of a devil's tango than one
>> with any identifiable 100% victim.
>
> Erin Pizzey who started shelters for domestic abuse victims, was boycottet and
> received death threats, for saying that domestic abuse was often reciprocal
> "broken people, beating up broken people"
>

The development team of the PC game Cyberpunk 2077 received death
threats for not releasing the game on time

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On 7/29/2021 10:04 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
> lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
>
> ===================
>>
>> Erin Pizzey who started shelters for domestic abuse victims, was boycottet and
>> received death threats, for saying that domestic abuse was often reciprocal
>> "broken people, beating up broken people"
>
> ** The " domestic violence industry " relies on the false assumption that men are the culprits and women the innocent victims.
>
> So much so, that no mention of women culprits or beaten men is ever allowed.
> In truth, it about 50/50 in terms of initiators.
>
> IIRC
>
> what Ms Pizzey found was that all donations dried up soon as she spoke the truth.
>
> Same applies today.
>
>
> ...... Phil
>

If only there were some kind of "law enforcement"-type people who
reliably took men's claims of being assaulted by women at all seriously.
They must be getting paid off by the feminism lobby to not do that.

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 by: bitrex - Fri, 30 Jul 2021 04:27 UTC

On 7/29/2021 9:58 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
> bitrex is brainless wrote:
>
> =====================
>>
>>> ** This dude has never heard about the famous excuse women use to marry an ill suited man.
>>>
>>> " I'll alter him .... "
>>>
>>
>> The savior-role is a role both men and women play sometimes,
>>
>
> ** That is not what the wedding excuse means.
>
> "bitrex" is the *poster boy* for the Dunning Kruger effect:
>
> https://www.britannica.com/science/Dunning-Kruger-effect
>
>
> ..... Phil
>
>
>

Marriage is really expensive, too

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Subject: Re: OT: Why defund the police?
From: bill.slo...@ieee.org (Anthony William Sloman)
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On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 1:51:40 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> Sloman said:
> > >
> > > ** The " domestic violence industry " relies on the false assumption that men are the culprits
> > > and women the innocent victims.
>
> > I can't say I've noticed this.
>
> ** Who gives a flying fuck about that?

Who pays any attention to your opinion either?

> > > So much so, that no mention of women culprits or beaten men is ever allowed.

> > > In truth, it about 50/50 in terms of initiators.
>
> > Men do a lot more damage than women - women may initiate violence just as often, but men do tend to be stronger and better practiced at inflicting damage.
>
> ** Bullshit.

You may like to think so, and you snipped my comment about why this does happen to be true, but you are being quite as silly as ever.

> > > what Ms Pizzey found was that all donations dried up soon as she spoke the truth.
> > >
> > > Same applies today.
>
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey
> >
> > Some donations might have dried up.
>
> ** Yawnnnnnnnn......

Reality is much too tedious for Phil to bother thinking about it.

> > She stayed active for at least thirty years,
>
> ** Massive irrelevance to what she found and is still true.

Phil does find real world facts that don't fit his preferred delusions to be an "irrelevance". He's certainly not going to pay any attention to inconvenient realities.
> Whether fucking retards like Sloman know or not.

He doesn't like informed comment. He much prefers his own advanced thinking, which puts the horse before the cart, and gets to his desired conclusion without any time-wasting reference to inconvenient real-world facts.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Fuckwit Slowman is a DEMENTED RETARD

================================
>> >
> > > > ** The " domestic violence industry " relies on the false assumption that men are the culprits
> > > > and women the innocent victims.
> >
> > > I can't say I've noticed this.
> >
> > ** Who gives a flying fuck about that?
>
> Who pays any attention to your opinion either?

** Yours was a ridiculous, pompous, argumentative piece of pseudo logical bullshit.
==================================================================
>
> > > > So much so, that no mention of women culprits or beaten men is ever allowed.
>
> > > > In truth, it about 50/50 in terms of initiators.
> >
> > > Men do a lot more damage than women - women may initiate violence just as often,
> > but men do tend to be stronger and better practiced at inflicting damage.
> >
> > ** Bullshit.
>
> You may like to think so, and you snipped my comment about why this does happen to be true,

** But it isn't true.

No way am I *EVER* going to give your half baked, fabricated non facts any of my time.

> > > > what Ms Pizzey found was that all donations dried up soon as she spoke the truth.
> > > >
> > > > Same applies today.
> >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey
> > >
> > > Some donations might have dried up.
> >
> > ** Yawnnnnnnnn......

> Reality is much too tedious for Phil to bother thinking about it.

** No way am I *EVER* going to give your half baked, fabricated non facts any of my time.

> > > She stayed active for at least thirty years,
> >
> > ** Massive irrelevance to what she found and is still true.

> Phil does find real world facts

** No way am I *EVER* going to give your half baked, fabricated non facts any of my time.

> He doesn't like informed comment.

** The know nothing, demented, Slowman TROLL does not fucking have any.

...... Phil

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Subject: Re: OT: Why defund the police?
From: bill.slo...@ieee.org (Anthony William Sloman)
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On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 2:44:59 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> ================================
> >> >
> > > > > ** The " domestic violence industry " relies on the false assumption that men are the culprits
> > > > > and women the innocent victims.
> > >
> > > > I can't say I've noticed this.
> > >
> > > ** Who gives a flying fuck about that?
> >
> > Who pays any attention to your opinion either?

> ** Yours was a ridiculous, pompous, argumentative piece of pseudo logical bullshit.

It may make you happy to claim this, but nobody is going to going to take you seriously.

> > > > > So much so, that no mention of women culprits or beaten men is ever allowed.
> >
> > > > > In truth, it about 50/50 in terms of initiators.
> > >
> > > > Men do a lot more damage than women - women may initiate violence just as often,
> > > but men do tend to be stronger and better practiced at inflicting damage.
> > >
> > > ** Bullshit.
> >
> > You may like to think so, and you snipped my comment about why this does happen to be true,
>
> ** But it isn't true.

You don't want it to be true, but you aren't going to bother finding the kinds of fact that might disprove it. probably because they aren't out there to be found.
> No way am I *EVER* going to give your half baked, fabricated non facts any of my time.

Of courses. You much prefer your own half-baked fabricated non-facts to anything with any connection to the real world.

> > > > > what Ms Pizzey found was that all donations dried up soon as she spoke the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Same applies today.
> > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey
> > > >
> > > > Some donations might have dried up.
> > >
> > > ** Yawnnnnnnnn......
>
> > Reality is much too tedious for Phil to bother thinking about it.

> ** No way am I *EVER* going to give your half baked, fabricated non facts any of my time.
> > > > She stayed active for at least thirty years,
> > >
> > > ** Massive irrelevance to what she found and is still true.
>
> > Phil does find real world facts that don't fit his preferred delusions to be an "irrelevance". He's certainly not going to pay any attention to inconvenient realities.

> ** No way am I *EVER* going to give your half baked, fabricated non facts any of my time.

He does prefer his own concoctions, and is happy to snip out anything he doesn't like. This is obviously idiotic.

> > He doesn't like informed comment.

> ** The - snipped abuse - does not fucking have any.

It's much easier to churn out imaginary abuse than it is to get informed, and Phil doesn't seem to be able to get to first base when it comes to getting informed.

He seems to rely on the local shock jocks for information.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: bitrex - Fri, 30 Jul 2021 11:53 UTC

On 7/28/2021 3:07 PM, John Doe wrote:
> Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>
>> Phil Allison wrote:
>
>>> A great many Chinese, Malaysian and Philipino gals have done
>>> wonderfully well for themselves here in Aussie land. Walking 10 paces
>>> behind their husbands - metaphorically speaking ....
>
>> Cultures where the ladies let the men *think* they're in charge.
>>
>> Lots of guys don't mind being led around by the nose, or whatever, if
>> it's done non-confrontationally. All that charming scheming..
>
> Men having natural authority in marriage has nothing to do with bossing
> around their wives. It has to do with STRUCTURE. It's a tie-breaking
> thing. It's to do with the fact every law, no matter how cute and fluffy,
> is enforced by brute force at the point of a gun. Physicality is how
> laws/decisions are enforced (when need be). Even intellectual property law
> is enforced by brute force at the point of a gun.

That's true

> It's like all those "defund the police" mayors spending gobs of money on
> private security... Forcing men to act like angels in their homes doesn't
> help ordinary women. The objective has nothing to do with protecting
> women, the idea is to suck all power into big centralized government.
> Family structure has been destroyed. Now the same thing is beginning to
> happen with local police. Power tends to corrupt. It's only a matter of
> time.

Shame that it's painfully obvious John Doe's primary, or perhaps only,
gripe about power is that nobody with it will let him regularly use
brute force to get what he wants the way they do....it's just not fair!

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On 7/28/2021 3:22 PM, John Doe wrote:
> Brent Locher <blocher@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
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>> because in their native country they walked 20 paces behind
>
> Behind ordinary men who are themselves oppressed.
>

Even thugs know John Doe is a very naughty boy, and figure that he needs
discipline. Sounds like maybe he tried to be a cop at one time, and got
turned down. You might say it takes one to know one.


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