On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 3:22:15 PM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:
> Wilson's (1911) cloud chamber is used to justify the existence of protons that are said to be forming the cloud chamber alcohol tracks. Wilson's cloud chamber contains a radium isotope that forms the alcohol tracks but radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions, alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alchohol tracks formed by protons yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions. The Lawrence cyclotron (1929) is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but during the acceleration process, the negative polarity, of the oscillating polarity (+/-) dee halves, would attract the positively charged protons to the negatively charged dee halves and eliminate the protons propagating within the cyclotron preventing the formation of a proton beam.. Plus, the cyclotron protons are formed by a radium isotope placed at the center of the cyclotron but protons are formed by the secondary decay of radon gas yet radon gas cannot be contained within the open system of the cyclotron since the radon gas would leak into the hollow cyclotron dee halves and escape through the gaps into open space outside the cyclotron's structure, and, it would not be physically possible to enclose the random gas and form a proton beam since protons that are composed of matter cannot penetrate the enclosure of the random gas. Lawrence cyclotron proton beam is represented with a blue light beam (fig 19) which proves the cyclotron proton beam is fictional. The duoplasmatron forms the proton beam used in the Fermilab and LHC particle accelerators. The duoplasmatron proton beam is produced by hydrogen gas that is ignited using a 22 kV arc but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam. Also, it is highly unlikely that protons which originate from the nucleus form the stability required in the production of a proton beam. Proton beam therapy is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but protons that have a mass 1,000 times greater than an electron would destroy human skin, tissue and bone in the path of the proton beam
..

On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 3:22:15 PM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:
> > Wilson's (1911) cloud chamber is used to justify the existence of protons that are said to be forming the cloud chamber alcohol tracks. Wilson's cloud chamber contains a radium isotope that forms the alcohol tracks but radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions, alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alchohol tracks formed by protons yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions. The Lawrence cyclotron (1929) is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but during the acceleration process, the negative polarity, of the oscillating polarity (+/-) dee halves, would attract the positively charged protons to the negatively charged dee halves and eliminate the protons propagating within the cyclotron preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, the cyclotron protons are formed by a radium isotope placed at the center of the cyclotron but protons are formed by the secondary decay of radon gas yet radon gas cannot be contained within the open system of the cyclotron since the radon gas would leak into the hollow cyclotron dee halves and escape through the gaps into open space outside the cyclotron's structure, and, it would not be physically possible to enclose the random gas and form a proton beam since protons that are composed of matter cannot penetrate the enclosure of the random gas. Lawrence cyclotron proton beam is represented with a blue light beam (fig 19) which proves the cyclotron proton beam is fictional. The duoplasmatron forms the proton beam used in the Fermilab and LHC particle accelerators. The duoplasmatron proton beam is produced by hydrogen gas that is ignited using a 22 kV arc but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam. Also, it is highly unlikely that protons which originate from the nucleus form the stability required in the production of a proton beam. Proton beam therapy is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but protons that have a mass 1,000 times greater than an electron would destroy human skin, tissue and bone in the path of the proton beam

They are using your money for this

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:25:16 AM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 3:22:15 PM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:
>>> Wilson's (1911) cloud chamber is used to justify the existence of
>>> protons that are said to be forming the cloud chamber alcohol tracks.
>>> Wilson's cloud chamber contains a radium isotope that forms the alcohol
>>> tracks but radium results in numerous different types of particle
>>> emissions such as gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron
>>> emissions, proton emissions, alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron
>>> emissions, and cluster decay yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to
>>> only be forming alchohol tracks formed by protons yet radium is
>>> emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions. The
>>> Lawrence cyclotron (1929) is used to justify the existence of a proton
>>> beam but during the acceleration process, the negative polarity, of the
>>> oscillating polarity (+/-) dee halves, would attract the positively
>>> charged protons to the negatively charged dee halves and eliminate the
>>> protons propagating within the cyclotron preventing the formation of a
>>> proton beam. Plus, the cyclotron protons are formed by a radium isotope
>>> placed at the center of the cyclotron but protons are formed by the
>>> secondary decay of radon gas yet radon gas cannot be contained within
>>> the open system of the cyclotron since the radon gas would leak into
>>> the hollow cyclotron dee halves and escape through the gaps into open
>>> space outside the cyclotron's structure, and, it would not be
>>> physically possible to enclose the random gas and form a proton beam
>>> since protons that are composed of matter cannot penetrate the
>>> enclosure of the random gas. Lawrence cyclotron proton beam is
>>> represented with a blue light beam (fig 19) which proves the cyclotron
>>> proton beam is fictional. The duoplasmatron forms the proton beam used
>>> in the Fermilab and LHC particle accelerators. The duoplasmatron proton
>>> beam is produced by hydrogen gas that is ignited using a 22 kV arc but
>>> positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged
>>> duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces
>>> preventing the formation of a proton beam. Also, it is highly unlikely
>>> that protons which originate from the nucleus form the stability
>>> required in the production of a proton beam. Proton beam therapy is
>>> used to justify the existence of a proton beam but protons that have a
>>> mass 1,000 times greater than an electron would destroy human skin,
>>> tissue and bone in the path of the proton beam
>
>
> They are using your money for this
>

Yes, and I’m glad for it. Note they’re not using YOUR money, as I’m sure
you’re a consumer of other people’s tax dollars as well.

You might note with interest that I know someone who had a inoperable brain
tumor completely eradicated by proton beam therapy, where the protons are
extracted from the Fermilab proton beam that you say is impossible to
produce. He sat in a little room below ground level at the laboratory, and
doctors clamped his head into position, and the protons deposited almost
all their energy into tumor tissue only. Proton beam therapy works because
the energy deposited increases dramatically as the proton slows, so that
almost all the energy gets dropped only in the last couple of centimeters.
He described the tour he got of the facility, and while he had a 5% chance
of survival for 2 years, it’s now fifteen years later and there is no sign
of recurrence. I’m sure he’d be happy to listen to all your arguments that
he was not cured by a proton beam and that he’s in fact dead.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

You might note with interest that I know someone who had a inoperable brain
tumor completely eradicated by proton beam therapy, where the protons are
extracted from the Fermilab proton beam that you say is impossible to produce.

Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

I hope that you fooly recover so that you can one day dunk a basketball. Keep trying.

Never give up.

NBA

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You might note with interest that I know someone who had a inoperable brain
> tumor completely eradicated by proton beam therapy, where the protons are
> extracted from the Fermilab proton beam that you say is impossible to produce.
>
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
>
> I hope that you fooly recover so that you can one day dunk a basketball. Keep trying.
>
> Never give up.
>
> NBA
>

And what do you gain by trying to argue that such things don’t exist?

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:

> carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > You might note with interest that I know someone who had a inoperable
> > brain tumor completely eradicated by proton beam therapy, where the
> > protons are extracted from the Fermilab proton beam that you say is
> > impossible to produce.
> >
> > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> >
> > I hope that you fooly recover so that you can one day dunk a basketball.
> > Keep trying.
> >
> > Never give up.
> >
> > NBA
> >
>
> And what do you gain by trying to argue that such things don't exist?

Reinforcing his solipsism,

Jan

Wilson's (1911) cloud chamber is used to justify the existence of protons that are said to be forming the cloud chamber alcohol tracks. Wilson's cloud chamber contains a radium isotope that forms the alcohol tracks but radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions, alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alchohol tracks formed by protons yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions. The Lawrence cyclotron (1929) is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but during the acceleration process, the negative polarity, of the oscillating polarity (+/-) dee halves, would attract the positively charged protons to the negatively charged dee halves and eliminate the protons propagating within the cyclotron preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, the cyclotron protons are formed by a radium isotope placed at the center of the cyclotron but protons are formed by the secondary decay of radon gas yet radon gas cannot be contained within the open system of the cyclotron since the radon gas would leak into the hollow cyclotron dee halves and escape through the gaps into open space outside the cyclotron's structure, and, it would not be physically possible to enclose the random gas and form a proton beam since protons that are composed of matter cannot penetrate the enclosure of the random gas. Lawrence cyclotron proton beam is represente with a blue light beam (fig 19) which proves the cyclotron proton beam is fictional. The duoplasmatron forms the proton beam used in the Fermilab and LHC particle accelerators. The duoplasmatron proton beam is produced by hydrogen gas that is ignited using a 22 kV arc but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam. Also, it is highly unlikely that protons which originate from the nucleus form the stability required in the production of a proton beam. Proton beam therapy is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but protons that have a mass 1,000 times greater than an electron would destroy human skin, tissue and bone in the path of the proton beam

I do not have to prove anything since there it is right there.

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wilson's (1911) cloud chamber is used to justify the existence of
> protons that are said to be forming the cloud chamber alcohol tracks.
> Wilson's cloud chamber contains a radium isotope that forms the alcohol
> tracks but radium results in numerous different types of particle
> emissions such as gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions,
> proton emissions, alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and
> cluster decay yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming
> alchohol tracks formed by protons yet radium is emitting a variety of
> different nuclear derived particle emissions. The Lawrence cyclotron
> (1929) is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but during the
> acceleration process, the negative polarity, of the oscillating polarity
> (+/-) dee halves, would attract the positively charged protons to the
> negatively charged dee halves and eliminate the protons propagating
> within the cyclotron preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, the
> cyclotron protons are formed by a radium isotope placed at the center of
> the cyclotron but protons are formed by the secondary decay of radon gas
> yet radon gas cannot be contained within the open system of the
> cyclotron since the radon gas would leak into the hollow cyclotron dee
> halves and escape through the gaps into open space outside the
> cyclotron's structure, and, it would not be physically possible to
> enclose the random gas and form a proton beam since protons that are
> composed of matter cannot penetrate the enclosure of the random gas.
> Lawrence cyclotron proton beam is represente with a blue light beam
> (fig 19) which proves the cyclotron proton beam is fictional. The
> duoplasmatron forms the proton beam used in the Fermilab and LHC particle
> accelerators. The duoplasmatron proton beam is produced by hydrogen gas
> that is ignited using a 22 kV arc but positively charged protons
> attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with
> the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam.
> Also, it is highly unlikely that protons which originate from the nucleus
> form the stability required in the production of a proton beam. Proton
> beam therapy is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but
> protons that have a mass 1,000 times greater than an electron would
> destroy human skin, tissue and bone in the path of the proton beam
>
>
> I do not have to prove anything since there it is right there.
>

Yes, indeed, the proton therapy clinic is right there. The proton beam line
is right there. The accelerator laboratory is right there. The visitor
information center is right there. The couple-thousand laboratory staff are
all right there, and their cars that they drove to work in are right there.

And for some reason you are trying to prove that these are all a fiction.
The workers’ cars are not there or are there for no reason, the staff are
either not there or there for no reason, the laboratory is not there or
there for no reason, the proton beam line is either not there or there for
no reason, the proton therapy department is not there or there for no
reason, and the patients who underwent proton therapy either don’t exist or
went there for no reason.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On 2/16/2022 2:42 PM, carl eto wrote:
> Wilson's (1911) cloud chamber is used to justify the existence of protons that are said to be forming the cloud chamber alcohol tracks. Wilson's cloud chamber contains a radium isotope that forms the alcohol tracks but radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions, alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alchohol tracks formed by protons yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
>
>
> I do not have to prove anything since there it is right there.

That babble proves nothing.

Making a home-made Wilson cloud chamber is often a high school science
fair exhibit. The biggest difficulty may be obtaining dry ice or 99%
isopropyl alcohol, or a radioactive something to demonstrate it. For the
latter a piece of granite may work or just watch for cosmic rays.

You should try it.

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:17:17 PM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Making a home-made Wilson cloud chamber is often a high school science
> fair exhibit. The biggest difficulty may be obtaining dry ice or 99%
> isopropyl alcohol, or a radioactive something to demonstrate it. For the
> latter a piece of granite may work or just watch for cosmic rays.

One could also try taking apart a smoke detector for the americium,
which emits alpha and gamma rays. But I would not expect a crackpot
to take proper precautions, and it is certainly not something to do for
high school science fair exhibit.

Potassium chloride salt substitute emits readily detectable amounts
of beta rays.

Once upon a time, gas lantern lantern mantles contained thorium,
which emits a mixture of alpha, beta, and gamma rays. But in 1990,
Coleman replaced the thorium in their mantles with yttrium.
Big disappointment for those of us helping their daughters with their
science fair projects! If I recollect properly, that year we did a Cavendish
balance instead, or maybe that was the year after???

radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions, alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons

Who said this?

> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> > gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> > alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> > Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
> Who said this?
> > yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.

How would you tell the difference?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton#/media/File:Proton_detected_in_an_isopropanol_cloud_chamber.jpg

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
>> Who said this?
>>> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.

Who said “Wilson’s cloud chamber is only be forming alcohol trackers formed
by protons”?

If no one actually said that, then it’s not an issue, right?

>
>
> How would you tell the difference?
>
>
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton#/media/File:Proton_detected_in_an_isopropanol_cloud_chamber.jpg
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On 2/17/2022 2:14 PM, carl eto wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
>> Who said this?
>>> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.
>
> yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.

Who "said" that? It's wrong.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Nuclear_particle_in_a_diffusion_cloud_chamber.png

Four types of particle seen in a cloud chamber in one image.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 2/17/2022 2:14 PM, carl eto wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> >>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> >>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> >>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
> >> Who said this?
> >>> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> > gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> > alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> > Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.
> >
> > yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.
> Who "said" that? It's wrong.
>
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Nuclear_particle_in_a_diffusion_cloud_chamber.png
>
> Four types of particle seen in a cloud chamber in one image.

The photo looks fake.

thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 2/17/2022 2:14 PM, carl eto wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
>>>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
>>>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
>>>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
>>>> Who said this?
>>>>> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>> If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.
>>>
>>> yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol
>>> tracks formed by protons.
>> Who "said" that? It's wrong.
>>
>>
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Nuclear_particle_in_a_diffusion_cloud_chamber.png
>>
>>
>> Four types of particle seen in a cloud chamber in one image.
>
>
> The photo looks fake.
>

So do your posts.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> thor stoneman <consequen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> On 2/17/2022 2:14 PM, carl eto wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> >>>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> >>>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> >>>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
> >>>> Who said this?
> >>>>> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>>
> >>> If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> >>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> >>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> >>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.
> >>>
> >>> yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol
> >>> tracks formed by protons.
> >> Who "said" that? It's wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Nuclear_particle_in_a_diffusion_cloud_chamber.png
> >>
> >>
> >> Four types of particle seen in a cloud chamber in one image.
> >
> >
> > The photo looks fake.
> >
> So do your posts.
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Bodkin are are absolutely free to think what you want seeing that this is a free country. I have a suggestion---why don't you go to another forum where people think more like you? That way you will be happier since you seem depressed lately. Have you looked at the DOW today? It fell 700 points.

In matter of fact, I would be thrilled if you would take Michael Moroney along and please take good care, so long.

thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> thor stoneman <consequen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> On 2/17/2022 2:14 PM, carl eto wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
>>>>>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
>>>>>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
>>>>>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
>>>>>> Who said this?
>>>>>>> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>
>>>>> If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
>>>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
>>>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
>>>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.
>>>>>
>>>>> yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol
>>>>> tracks formed by protons.
>>>> Who "said" that? It's wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Nuclear_particle_in_a_diffusion_cloud_chamber.png
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Four types of particle seen in a cloud chamber in one image.
>>>
>>>
>>> The photo looks fake.
>>>
>> So do your posts.
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
>
> Bodkin are are absolutely free to think what you want seeing that this is
> a free country. I have a suggestion---why don't you go to another forum
> where people think more like you? That way you will be happier since you
> seem depressed lately. Have you looked at the DOW today? It fell 700 points.
>

Well, here on the forum, a lot of people do think like me. You, on the
other hand, do not think like most people do. You’re the only one here who
believes that galaxies do not exist, that we did not land on the moon, that
the ISS is a fiction, that particle accelerators cannot possibly work, that
cloud chambers and bubble chambers cannot work, and about a dozen other
weirdo conspiracy-fodder ideas. If you thought that sci.physics.relativity
was a place for people like you to gather and express conspiracy concerns,
then you probably made a mistake.

So either YOU are in the wrong place, or you just want to find someplace
unmoderated (and it doesn’t matter where) that you can vent your
loony-tunes babble and this will work as well any.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> In matter of fact, I would be thrilled if you would take Michael Moroney
> along and please take good care, so long.
>

How about you go first, since you’re the oddball.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:26:04 AM UTC-8, carleto4...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 6:49:25 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Why would the sub atomic blow a macro bubble anywhere we can see?
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> Particle physics will never win another Noble prize. period

Einstein knew better. He went against what his Nobel was for.
He said his light was a wavelet instead.

Mitchell Raemsch

The Fermilab (1967) particle physics experiment describes an accelerated proton beam collision with a beryllium target that collision forms subatomic particles which then propagate through the steel structure of the bubble chamber that contain presurized liquid hydrogen. The subatomic particle propagate through the liquid hydrogen producing spiral shape liquid hydrogen bubble tracks that are used to determine the mass and energy of the subatomic particles. The Fermilab proton beam is formed by a duoplasmatron but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, the Fermilab RF cavity accelerates the ostensible protons, formed by the duoplasmatron, by oscillating the polarity of the metal surfaces of the RF cavity using an oscillating LRC circuit where the protons propagate through a 6 km circular beam pipe surrounded by magnets that guides the 20,000 passes of the proton beam through the circular beam pipe and RF cavity resulting in the acceleration of the proton beam to the velocity of .7c. Initially, as the protons enter the first segment of the RF cavity, the positively charged protons are attracted to the far negatively charged cathode surface that surrounds the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity. As the protons approach the far hole, of the first segment of the RF cavity, the negatively charged metal surface that surrounds the far hole switches polarity and becomes positively charged to prevent the positively charged protons from colliding with the sides of the far hole that allows the protons to propagate through the far hole which represents the acceleration of the protons by the first segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism is repeated for each segment of the RF cavity and represents the acceleration of the proton beams. The protons make more than 20,000 passes through the RF cavity and circular beam pipe where the proton beam is said to be accelerated to the velocity of .7c at the end of the acceleration process yet the electrons of a copper wire are propagating at a velocity of 106 m/s. Electrons of a LRC circuit that is forming the oscillating polarity (+/-) of each segment of the RF cavity cannot propagate fast enough to fill the negative surface of the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity in the formation of the polarity oscillation used to accelerate the protons to the speed of .7c since the electrons must fill the outer metallic surface of the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity by propagating along the metallic surface to form the negative charged RF cavity surface and electric field of the first segment that is used to accelerate the protons then the electrons must leave the negative charged RF cavity surface, of the far hole, to form the positive charged surface surrounding the far hole to allow the protons to enter the next segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism repeats for every segment of the RF cavity where the electric field of each segment incrimentally increases as the protons enter the next segment fo the RF cavity yet electrons, of the LRC circuit, that are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s cannot form the RF cavity polarity oscillation fast enough to accelerate the protons to the velocity of .7c; consequently, the maximum proton beam velocity that can be achieved using the RF cavity is 106 m/s.

If I am wrong the why can they not defend themselves. I ready defend this. There is over 509 words to argue about but if you do ----I will embarrass you that is why they say nothing.

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:

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> If I am wrong the why can they not defend themselves. I ready defend
> this. There is over 509 words to argue about but if you do ----I will
> embarrass you that is why they say nothing.
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You are wrong, but you are also a babbling psychopath. Nobody feels the
need to counter long-winded babble from a psychopath.

Look, I get it. One of the problems of being a psychopath is feeling
alienated and disconnected from other people. And so there’s a strong
hunger for attention and interaction. The problem is, psychotic babbling
does not count as useful interaction for normal people.

Note that I completely ignored the 500 words of physics babble, and I ONLY
paid attention to your complaint about people not engaging with you in
debate. That I answered.

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Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 12:48:01 PM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > If I am wrong the why can they not defend themselves. I ready defend
> > this. There is over 509 words to argue about but if you do ----I will
> > embarrass you that is why they say nothing.
> >
> >
> You are wrong, but you are also a babbling psychopath.
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Why do you keep posting on this thread? You only put out insults as a responds yet I have written over 609 words that you say is babble but if it were babble then prove it!!!!!!