carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 12:48:01 PM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I am wrong the why can they not defend themselves. I ready defend
>>> this. There is over 509 words to argue about but if you do ----I will
>>> embarrass you that is why they say nothing.
>>>
>>>
>> You are wrong, but you are also a babbling psychopath.
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
>
> Why do you keep posting on this thread? You only put out insults as a
> responds yet I have written over 609 words that you say is babble but if
> it were babble then prove it!!!!!!
>

No, there’s no need to go to any effort to show babble is babble.

Go get some help and stop babbling psychotically on usenet. When you can
stop babbling, then you will get some attention.

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Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

there’s no need to go to any effort to show babble is babble.

Is it because you can't or are you just not in the mood?

thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> there’s no need to go to any effort to show babble is babble.
>
>
> Is it because you can't or are you just not in the mood?
>

No need at all.

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Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

The Fermilab (1967) particle physics experiment describes an accelerated proton beam collision with a beryllium target that collision forms subatomic particles which then propagate through the steel structure of the bubble chamber that contain presurized liquid hydrogen. The subatomic particle propagate through the liquid hydrogen producing spiral shape liquid hydrogen bubble tracks that are used to determine the mass and energy of the subatomic particles. The Fermilab proton beam is formed by a duoplasmatron but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, e Fermilab RF cavity accelerates the ostensible protons, formed by the duoplasmatron, by oscillating the polarity of the metal surfaces of the RF cavity using an oscillating LRC circuit where the protons propagate through a 6 km circular beam pipe surrounded by magnets that guides the 20,000 passes of the proton beam through the circular beam pipe and RF cavity resulting in the acceleration of the proton beam to the velocity of .7c. Initially, as the protons enter the first segment of the RF cavity, the positively charged protons are attracted to the far negatively charged cathode surface that surrounds the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity. As the protons approach the far hole, of the first segment of the RF cavity, the negatively charged metal surface that surrounds the far hole switches polarity and becomes positively charged to prevent the positively charged protons from colliding with the sides of the far hole that allows the protons to propagate through the far hole which represents the acceleration of the protons by the first segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism is repeated for each segment of the RF cavity and represents the acceleration of the proton beams. The protons make more than 20,000 passes through the RF cavity and circular beam pipe where the proton beam is said to be accelerated to the velocity of .7c at the end of the acceleration process yet the electrons of a copper wire are propagating at a velocity of 106 m/s. Electrons of a LRC circuit that is forming the oscillating polarity (+/-) of each segment of the RF cavity cannot propagate fast enough to fill the negative surface of the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity in the formation of the polarity oscillation used to accelerate the protons to the speed of .7c since the electrons must fill the outer metallic surface of the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity by propagating along the metallic surface to form the negative charged RF cavity surface and electric field of the first segment that is used to accelerate the protons then the electrons must leave the negative charged RF cavity surface, of the far hole, to form the positive charged surface surrounding the far hole to allow the protons to enter the next segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism repeats for every segment of the RF cavity where the electric field of each segment incrimentally increases as the protons enter the next segment fo the RF cavity yet electrons, of the LRC circuit, that are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s cannot form the RF cavity polarity oscillation fast enough to accelerate the protons to the velocity of .7c; consequently, the maximum proton beam velocity that can be achieved using the RF cavity is 106 m/s.

If I am wrong the why can they not defend themselves. I ready defend this. There is over 509 words to argue about but if you do ----I will embarrass you that is why they say nothing.

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 5:36:51 PM UTC-8, carl eto wrote:
> The Fermilab (1967) particle physics experiment describes an accelerated proton beam collision with a beryllium target that collision forms subatomic particles which then propagate through the steel structure of the bubble chamber that contain presurized liquid hydrogen. The subatomic particle propagate through the liquid hydrogen producing spiral shape liquid hydrogen bubble tracks that are used to determine the mass and energy of the subatomic particles. The Fermilab proton beam is formed by a duoplasmatron but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, e Fermilab RF cavity accelerates the ostensible protons, formed by the duoplasmatron, by oscillating the polarity of the metal surfaces of the RF cavity using an oscillating LRC circuit where the protons propagate through a 6 km circular beam pipe surrounded by magnets that guides the 20,000 passes of the proton beam through the circular beam pipe and RF cavity resulting in the acceleration of the proton beam to the velocity of .7c. Initially, as the protons enter the first segment of the RF cavity, the positively charged protons are attracted to the far negatively charged cathode surface that surrounds the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity. As the protons approach the far hole, of the first segment of the RF cavity, the negatively charged metal surface that surrounds the far hole switches polarity and becomes positively charged to prevent the positively charged protons from colliding with the sides of the far hole that allows the protons to propagate through the far hole which represents the acceleration of the protons by the first segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism is repeated for each segment of the RF cavity and represents the acceleration of the proton beams. The protons make more than 20,000 passes through the RF cavity and circular beam pipe where the proton beam is said to be accelerated to the velocity of .7c at the end of the acceleration process yet the electrons of a copper wire are propagating at a velocity of 106 m/s. Electrons of a LRC circuit that is forming the oscillating polarity (+/-) of each segment of the RF cavity cannot propagate fast enough to fill the negative surface of the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity in the formation of the polarity oscillation used to accelerate the protons to the speed of .7c since the electrons must fill the outer metallic surface of the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity by propagating along the metallic surface to form the negative charged RF cavity surface and electric field of the first segment that is used to accelerate the protons then the electrons must leave the negative charged RF cavity surface, of the far hole, to form the positive charged surface surrounding the far hole to allow the protons to enter the next segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism repeats for every segment of the RF cavity where the electric field of each segment incrimentally increases as the protons enter the next segment fo the RF cavity yet electrons, of the LRC circuit, that are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s cannot form the RF cavity polarity oscillation fast enough to accelerate the protons to the velocity of .7c; consequently, the maximum proton beam velocity that can be achieved using the RF cavity is 106 m/s.
> If I am wrong the why can they not defend themselves. I ready defend this.. There is over 509 words to argue about but if you do ----I will embarrass you that is why they say nothing.

so insane

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> If I am wrong the why can they not defend themselves. I ready defend
> this. There is over 509 words to argue about but if you do ----I will
> embarrass you that is why they say nothing.
>
>

Whining for attention with streams of babble just makes you look both
insane and lonely.

Get outdoors. Talk to some people.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Wilson's (1911) cloud chamber is used to justify the existence of protons that are said to be forming the cloud chamber alcohol tracks. Wilson's cloud chamber contains a radium isotope that is said to form the proton induced alcohol tracks but radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions, alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks produced by protons yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions. The Lawrence cyclotron (1929) is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but during the acceleration process, the negative polarity, of the oscillating polarity (+/-) dee halves, would attract the positively charged protons to the negatively charged dee halves and eliminate the protons propagating within the cyclotron preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, the cyclotron protons are formed by a radium isotope placed at the center of the cyclotron but protons are formed by the secondary decay of radon gas yet radon gas cannot be contained within the open system of the cyclotron since the radon gas would leak into the hollow cyclotron dee halves and escape through the gaps. It would not be physically possible to enclose the random gas and form a proton beam since protons that are composed of matter cannot penetrate the enclosure of the random gas to form a proton beam yet the random gas must be enclosed. The Lawrence cyclotron proton beam is represented with a blue light beam (fig 19) which proves the cyclotron proton beam is fictional. The concept of the proton beam originated from the electron cathode tube which was used in millions of television screens and computer monitors but it is highly unlikely that protons which originate from an atomic nucleus form the stability required in the production of a proton beam. The duoplasmatron forms the proton beam used in the Fermilab and LHC particle accelerators. The duoplasmatron proton beam is produced by hydrogen gas that is ignited using a 22 kV arc but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces, that the protons propagate through, preventing the formation of a proton beam. Proton beam therapy is used to justify the existence of a proton beam but protons that have a mass 1,000 times greater than an electron would destroy human skin, tissue and bone in the path of the proton beam. It is more likely that the effects of proton beam therapy is formed by gamma rays, X-rays or proton beam therapy is a placebo effect.

The Fermilab (1967) particle physics experiment describes an accelerated proton beam collision with a beryllium target that collision forms subatomic particles which then propagate through the steel structure of the bubble chamber that contains pressurized liquid hydrogen. The subatomic particles propagate through the liquid hydrogen producing spiral shape liquid hydrogen bubble tracks that are used to determine the mass and energy of the subatomic particles. The Fermilab proton beam is formed by a duoplasmatron but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, the Fermilab RF cavity accelerates the ostensible protons, formed by the duoplasmatron, by oscillating the polarity of the metal surfaces of the RF cavity using an oscillating LRC circuit where the protons propagate through a 6 km circular beam pipe surrounded by magnets that guides the 20,000 passes of the proton beam through the circular beam pipe and RF cavity resulting in the acceleration of the proton beam to the velocity of .7c. Initially, as the protons enter the first segment of the RF cavity, the positively charged protons are attracted to the far negatively charged cathode surface that surrounds the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity. As the protons approach the far hole, of the first segment, the negatively charged metal surface that surrounds the far hole, of the first segment of the RF cavity, switches polarity and becomes positively charged to prevent the positively charged protons from colliding with the sides of the far hole, of the first segment which represents the acceleration of the protons by the first segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism is repeated for each segment of the RF cavity and represents the acceleration of the proton beams. The protons make more than 20,000 passes through the RF cavity and circular beam pipe where the proton beam is said to be accelerated to the velocity of .7c at the end of the acceleration process yet the electrons of a copper wire are propagating at a velocity of 106 m/s. Electrons of a LRC circuit that is forming the oscillating polarity (+/-) of each segment of the RF cavity cannot propagate fast enough to fill the negative surface of the far hole of the segments of the RF cavity in the formation of the polarity oscillation used to accelerate the protons to the speed of .7c since the electrons must fill the outer metallic surface of the far hole of each segment of the RF cavity by propagating along the metallic surface to form the negative charged RF cavity surface and electric field of each segment of the RF cavity that is used to accelerate the protons then the electrons must leave the negative charged RF cavity surface, of the far hole, to form the positive charged surface surrounding the far hole to allow the protons to enter the next segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism repeats for every segment of the RF cavity where the electric field of each RF cavity segment incrementally increases as the protons enter the next segment of the RF cavity yet electrons, of the LRC circuit, that are also propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s cannot form the RF cavity polarity oscillation fast enough to accelerate the protons to the velocity of .7c; consequently, the maximum proton beam velocity that can be achieved using the RF cavity and LRC circuit is 106 m/s.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 11:38:13 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> >>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> >>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> >>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
> >> Who said this?
> >>> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
> > gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
> > alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
> > Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.
> Who said “Wilson’s cloud chamber is only be forming alcohol trackers formed
> by protons”?
>
> If no one actually said that, then it’s not an issue, right?
> >
> >
> > How would you tell the difference?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton#/media/File:Proton_detected_in_an_isopropanol_cloud_chamber.jpg
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Where is the radium source located. The tracks appear to be originating from random positions.

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 11:38:13 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> carl eto <carleto4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
>>>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
>>>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
>>>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons
>>>> Who said this?
>>>>> yet radium is emitting a variety of different nuclear derived particle emissions.
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>> If radium results in numerous different types of particle emissions such as
>>> gamma emissions, photon emissions, electron emissions, proton emissions,
>>> alpha decay, beta emissions, neutron emissions, and cluster decay yet the
>>> Wilson's cloud chamber is said to only be forming alcohol tracks formed by protons.
>> Who said “Wilson’s cloud chamber is only be forming alcohol trackers formed
>> by protons”?
>>
>> If no one actually said that, then it’s not an issue, right?

If no one actually said that, then it’s not an issue, right?

>>>
>>>
>>> How would you tell the difference?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton#/media/File:Proton_detected_in_an_isopropanol_cloud_chamber.jpg
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
>
>
>
> Where is the radium source located. The tracks appear to be originating
> from random positions.
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Where do the SAPS originate outside the bubble chamber or inside?

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where do the SAPS originate outside the bubble chamber or inside?
>

Cleveland.

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Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Op 25-feb.-2022 om 15:02 schreef Odd Bodkin:
> carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Where do the SAPS originate outside the bubble chamber or inside?
>>
>
> Cleveland.
>

Yah, let's move there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMGgWstz77U

Dirk Vdm

May this:

The Fermilab (1967) particle physics experiment describes an accelerated proton beam collision with a beryllium target that collision forms subatomic particles which then propagate through the steel structure of the bubble chamber that contain presurized liquid hydrogen. The subatomic particle propagate through the liquid hydrogen producing spiral shape liquid hydrogen bubble tracks that are used to determine the mass and energy of the subatomic particles. The Fermilab proton beam is formed by a duoplasmatron but positively charged protons attracted to the negatively charged duoplasmatron grid would collide with the 22 kV grid surfaces preventing the formation of a proton beam. Plus, the Fermilab RF cavity accelerates the ostensible protons, formed by the duoplasmatron, by oscillating the polarity of the metal surfaces of the RF cavity using an oscillating LRC circuit where the protons propagate through a 6 km circular beam pipe surrounded by magnets that guides the 20,000 passes of the proton beam through the circular beam pipe and RF cavity resulting in the acceleration of the proton beam to the velocity of .7c. Initially, as the protons enter the first segment of the RF cavity, the positively charged protons are attracted to the far negatively charged cathode surface that surrounds the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity. As the protons approach the far hole, of the first segment of the RF cavity, the negatively charged metal surface that surrounds the far hole switches polarity and becomes positively charged to prevent the positively charged protons from colliding with the sides of the far hole that allows the protons to propagate through the far hole which represents the acceleration of the protons by the first segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism is repeated for each segment of the RF cavity and represents the acceleration of the proton beams. The protons make more than 20,000 passes through the RF cavity and circular beam pipe where the proton beam is said to be accelerated to the velocity of .7c at the end of the acceleration process yet the electrons of a copper wire are propagating at a velocity of 106 m/s. Electrons of a LRC circuit that is forming the oscillating polarity (+/-) of each segment of the RF cavity cannot propagate fast enough to fill the negative surface of the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity in the formation of the polarity oscillation used to accelerate the protons to the speed of .7c since the electrons must fill the outer metallic surface of the far hole of the first segment of the RF cavity by propagating along the metallic surface to form the negative charged RF cavity surface and electric field of the first segment that is used to accelerate the protons then the electrons must leave the negative charged RF cavity surface, of the far hole, to form the positive charged surface surrounding the far hole to allow the protons to enter the next segment of the RF cavity. This mechanism repeats for every segment of the RF cavity where the electric field of each segment incrimentally increases as the protons enter the next segment fo the RF cavity yet electrons, of the LRC circuit, that are propagating at the velocity of 106 m/s cannot form the RF cavity polarity oscillation fast enough to accelerate the protons to the velocity of .7c; consequently, the maximum proton beam velocity that can be achieved using the RF cavity is 106 m/s.

carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> wrote:
> the maximum proton beam velocity that can be achieved using the RF cavity is 106 m/s.
>

very surprising to Fermilab technicians, watching protons go around a 4
mile ring 50,000 times a second. Carl eto says that’s impossible.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

10^6 m/s < .7c