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* The poem at 3 a.m. / gjdGeorge J. Dance
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 by: NancyGene - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:40 UTC

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:28:58 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:03:43 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > We find it very suspicious that the everlypedia site is the only one which mentions the Columbus fair. If the Everly Brothers were actually at that county fair, they must have been ashamed of it.
> >
> > Also, Will Dockery moved the goal posts: first he said he was 8 or 9 years old, which would have made the appearance in 1966 or 1967. Now it moved to 1970, when Dockery would have been 12 years old.
> One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.

True, but we find it curious that the information should be so hard to find.. It shouldn't be buried deeply in a pdf and not listed anywhere else. There is no set list as there is for other appearances. Maybe it was the curse of the non-writing/non-photograph population?

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 by: ME - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:46 UTC

On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 18:40:37 UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:28:58 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:03:43 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > We find it very suspicious that the everlypedia site is the only one which mentions the Columbus fair. If the Everly Brothers were actually at that county fair, they must have been ashamed of it.
> > >
> > > Also, Will Dockery moved the goal posts: first he said he was 8 or 9 years old, which would have made the appearance in 1966 or 1967. Now it moved to 1970, when Dockery would have been 12 years old.
> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> True, but we find it curious that the information should be so hard to find. It shouldn't be buried deeply in a pdf and not listed anywhere else. There is no set list as there is for other appearances. Maybe it was the curse of the non-writing/non-photograph population?

Maybe they slipped down there and performed because they knew there would be no photograghic proof that they were there!

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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:49 UTC

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 9:45:17 PM UTC, Rocky Stoneberg wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > NancyGene wrote:
> >
> > >> the Everly Brothers did not play the County Fair in Columbus
> >
> > > Yes, turns out that the Everly Brothers /did/ do concerts in Columbus, GA in 1970:
> >
> > > http://www.hillmanweb.com/everly/refs/everlypedia4.pdf
> >
> > > 1970
> > > 12th - 14th October: Chattahoochee Valley Fair in Columbus, Georgia.
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> >
> > Glad it was found...!
> Unreliable site. There is no corroboration as to the concerts or the dates from any other Everly Brothers research.

None of the Wiki sites you provided are any more reliable, are they, Nancy Gene?

HTH and HAND.

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 by: NancyGene - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:51 UTC

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:46:59 PM UTC, ME wrote:
> On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 18:40:37 UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:28:58 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:03:43 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > We find it very suspicious that the everlypedia site is the only one which mentions the Columbus fair. If the Everly Brothers were actually at that county fair, they must have been ashamed of it.
> > > >
> > > > Also, Will Dockery moved the goal posts: first he said he was 8 or 9 years old, which would have made the appearance in 1966 or 1967. Now it moved to 1970, when Dockery would have been 12 years old.
> > > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> > True, but we find it curious that the information should be so hard to find. It shouldn't be buried deeply in a pdf and not listed anywhere else. There is no set list as there is for other appearances. Maybe it was the curse of the non-writing/non-photograph population?
> Maybe they slipped down there and performed because they knew there would be no photograghic proof that they were there!
That's a good guess! They performed at 3 a.m. in front of no audience and then left town.

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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:53 UTC

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:51:14 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:46:59 PM UTC, ME wrote:
> > On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 18:40:37 UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:28:58 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:03:43 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > We find it very suspicious that the everlypedia site is the only one which mentions the Columbus fair. If the Everly Brothers were actually at that county fair, they must have been ashamed of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, Will Dockery moved the goal posts: first he said he was 8 or 9 years old, which would have made the appearance in 1966 or 1967. Now it moved to 1970, when Dockery would have been 12 years old.
> > > > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> > > True, but we find it curious that the information should be so hard to find. It shouldn't be buried deeply in a pdf and not listed anywhere else.. There is no set list as there is for other appearances. Maybe it was the curse of the non-writing/non-photograph population?
> > Maybe they slipped down there and performed because they knew there would be no photograghic proof that they were there!
> That's a good guess! They performed at 3 a.m. in front of no audience and then left town.

No, the Everly Brothers show I saw was early evening.

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 28 Jun 2022 14:51 UTC

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:45:17 PM UTC-4, Rocky Stoneberg wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > NancyGene wrote:
>
> >> the Everly Brothers did not play the County Fair in Columbus
>
> > Yes, turns out that the Everly Brothers /did/ do concerts in Columbus, GA in 1970:
>
> > http://www.hillmanweb.com/everly/refs/everlypedia4.pdf
>
> > 1970
> > 12th - 14th October: Chattahoochee Valley Fair in Columbus, Georgia.
>
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > HTH and HAND.
>
> Glad it was found, Doc...!!

Yes, thanks again.

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 by: Victor H. - Tue, 28 Jun 2022 19:17 UTC

NancyGene wrote:

>
>> > > > > > On 2022-06-18 2:59 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> > > > > > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>> > > > > > >>>>> does not want to be written;
>> > > > > > >>>>> it visits only to mock you.
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>> - gjd

> Remember when you stated
> that the Everly Brothers were at the County Fair (they were not)?

Yes, they were, and is seems for THREE shows on the weekend of October 12-14 1970....

This Everly Brothers site is somewhat easier to access:

https://docslib.org/doc/11018255/everlypedia-formerly-the-everly-brothers-index-tebi-coordinated-by-robin-dunn-chrissie-van-varik

The 1970 Tour list for the Everly Brothers

30th & 31st January: Aces Club, City Of Industry (suburb of Los Angeles). 6th & 7th February: Grand Hotel, Anaheim, California. The show of the 6th is taped and will be released as the double live album THE EVERLY BROTHERS SHOW. 09th- 21st February: Hook & Ladder Club, Toronto, Canada. 22nd February: Buffalo, New York. 26th - 28th February: Boston Tea Party in Boston, Massachusetts. 05th March - 6th April: South African tour. 29th June - 26th July: Landmark Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada. 29th July - 1st August: Amphitheatre in Atlanta, Georgia. 02nd August: Galena Rock Festival in Near Wadena, Iowa. 13th August: Playhouse in the Park in Philadelphia. 14th August: Schaefer Music Festival in Central Park, New York City. 07th September: All New Labor Day Night Show in Du Quoin, Illinois. 11th - 13th September: Utah State Fair in Salt Lake City, Utah. 14th - 16th September: Mid-America Fair in Topeka, Kansas. 23rd - 24th September: Brockton Fair, Brockton, Massachusetts. 26th September: War Memorial Auditorium, Syracuse, New York.

02nd - 10th October: Little Rock, Arkansas. 09th October: Memphis, Tennessee. 11th October: St. Petersburg, Florida.
12th - 14th October: Chattahoochee Valley Fair in Columbus, Georgia.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The show Doc attended....

16th - 17th October: Mississippi State Fair in Jackson, Mississippi. 24th October: Greater Jacksonville Fair in Jacksonville, Florida. 29th October: Memorial Coliseum, Phoenix, Arizona. 20th - 21st November: Sahara Tahoe Hotel, Stateline, Nevada. 26th - 28th November: Honolulu, Hawaii. 10th - 23rd December: Caesarโ€™s Palace, Las Vegas.

I see the brothers were in Buffalo NEW YORK that year as well but sorry to say I missed that show...!

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 29 Jun 2022 15:19 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-06-14 6:44 p.m., HC wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 5:55:25 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>>>
>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>>> does not want to be written;
>>> it visits only to mock you.
>>>
>>> - gjd
>>
>> And she says, baby
>> itโ€™s 3 a.m.
>> I must be lonely.

> Do you think I should change the time so that no one thinks of a song

No, I think you should leave it as is.

> that also uses "3 a.m."? Hmm, let's see.

> By George, I've got it!
> "The poem at 25 or to 6 to 4."

๐Ÿ™‚

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Victor H. wrote:

> NancyGene wrote:

>>
>>> > > > > > On 2022-06-18 2:59 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>>> > > > > > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>>> > > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>>> > > > > > >>>>> does not want to be written;
>>> > > > > > >>>>> it visits only to mock you.
>>> > > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > > >>>>> - gjd

>> Remember when you stated
>> that the Everly Brothers were at the County Fair (they were not)?

> Yes, they were, and is seems for THREE shows on the weekend of October 12-14 1970....

> This Everly Brothers site is somewhat easier to access:

> https://docslib.org/doc/11018255/everlypedia-formerly-the-everly-brothers-index-tebi-coordinated-by-robin-dunn-chrissie-van-varik

> The 1970 Tour list for the Everly Brothers

> 30th & 31st January: Aces Club, City Of Industry (suburb of Los Angeles). 6th & 7th February: Grand Hotel, Anaheim, California. The show of the 6th is taped and will be released as the double live album THE EVERLY BROTHERS SHOW. 09th- 21st February: Hook & Ladder Club, Toronto, Canada. 22nd February: Buffalo, New York. 26th - 28th February: Boston Tea Party in Boston, Massachusetts. 05th March - 6th April: South African tour. 29th June - 26th July: Landmark Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada. 29th July - 1st August: Amphitheatre in Atlanta, Georgia. 02nd August: Galena Rock Festival in Near Wadena, Iowa. 13th August: Playhouse in the Park in Philadelphia. 14th August: Schaefer Music Festival in Central Park, New York City. 07th September: All New Labor Day Night Show in Du Quoin, Illinois. 11th - 13th September: Utah State Fair in Salt Lake City, Utah. 14th - 16th September: Mid-America Fair in Topeka, Kansas. 23rd - 24th September: Brockton Fair, Brockton, Massachusetts. 26th September: War Memorial Auditorium, Syracuse, New York.

> 02nd - 10th October: Little Rock, Arkansas. 09th October: Memphis, Tennessee. 11th October: St. Petersburg, Florida.
> 12th - 14th October: Chattahoochee Valley Fair in Columbus, Georgia.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> The show Doc attended....

> 16th - 17th October: Mississippi State Fair in Jackson, Mississippi. 24th October: Greater Jacksonville Fair in Jacksonville, Florida. 29th October: Memorial Coliseum, Phoenix, Arizona. 20th - 21st November: Sahara Tahoe Hotel, Stateline, Nevada. 26th - 28th November: Honolulu, Hawaii. 10th - 23rd December: Caesarโ€™s Palace, Las Vegas.

> I see the brothers were in Buffalo NEW YORK that year as well but sorry to say I missed that show...!

Again, good find, Zod.

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NancyGene wrote:

> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:37:53 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:00:38 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > On 2022-06-18 2:59 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>> > >>>>> does not want to be written;
>> > >>>>> it visits only to mock you.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> - gjd
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> And she says, baby
>> > >>>> itโ€™s 3 a.m.
>> > >>>> I must be lonely.
>> > >>> Do you think I should change the time so that no one thinks of a song
>> > >>> that also uses "3 a.m."? Hmm, let's see.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> By George, I've got it!
>> > >>> "The poem at 25 or to 6 to 4."
>> > >>
>> > >> I had to look up the quote because I didn't think you referring to the
>> > >> song I know it from:
>> > >>
>> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nJ30dodvdc
>> > >
>> > > It's always nice to hear that, occasionally.
>> > >
>> > > Knowing your idiosyncratic sense of humor, I'm not convinced that you
>> > > don't know the original. Just in case, though, I'm sending an OB link..
>> > >
>> > > Though it's rock, you may like it. It has a brassy arrangement that
>> > > reminds me of a bluesband, and the lead guitar thingy sounds more jazz
>> > > than rock to me. I hope that makes it more interesting to you.
>> > Oh, yeah, the link:
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAYeN3Rp2E
>> Interesting coincidence, I was discussing the music scene of the early 1970s here with a friend who is a decade older than me and Chicago Transit Authority, as Chicago was known at first, came up.
>>
>> Turns out that in their very early days, Chicago Transit Authority played here at a small rock and roll club called Hallabaloo,
> There was no club called "Hallabaloo." If anything, it was called "Hullabaloo."

Yes, that was a typo.

The club was the Hullabaloo, which my source said was part of a franchise.

>> must have been 1969 or 1970, a fact that I never knew until this week.

> Bullshit, Will. Chicago (CTA or Chicago Transit Authority) played the Midwest Circuit in the early days and then went to Los Angeles. By 1969, they were already headlining (and in Atlanta):
> Oct 29, 1969 Chicago / Joe Cocker / Santana Municipal Auditorium Atlanta, Georgia, United States

> They never played in Columbus.

That's what you tried to say about the Everly Brothers, so we'll see.

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 by: Victor H. - Thu, 30 Jun 2022 20:55 UTC

NancyGene wrote:

> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:37:53 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On 2022-06-18 2:59 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>> > >>>>> does not want to be written;
>> > >>>>> it visits only to mock you.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> - gjd
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> And she says, baby
>> > >>>> itโ€™s 3 a.m.
>> > >>>> I must be lonely.
>> > >>> Do you think I should change the time so that no one thinks of a song
>> > >>> that also uses "3 a.m."? Hmm, let's see.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> By George, I've got it!
>> > >>> "The poem at 25 or to 6 to 4."
>> > >>
>> > >> I had to look up the quote because I didn't think you referring to the
>> > >> song I know it from:
>> > >>
>> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nJ30dodvdc
>> > >
>> > > It's always nice to hear that, occasionally.
>> > >
>> > > Knowing your idiosyncratic sense of humor, I'm not convinced that you
>> > > don't know the original. Just in case, though, I'm sending an OB link..
>> > >
>> > > Though it's rock, you may like it. It has a brassy arrangement that
>> > > reminds me of a bluesband, and the lead guitar thingy sounds more jazz
>> > > than rock to me. I hope that makes it more interesting to you.
>> > Oh, yeah, the link:
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAYeN3Rp2E
>> Interesting coincidence, I was discussing the music scene of the early 1970s here with a friend who is a decade older than me and Chicago Transit Authority, as Chicago was known at first, came up.
>>
>> Turns out that in their very early days, Chicago Transit Authority played here at a small rock and roll club called Hallabaloo,
> There was no club called "Hallabaloo." If anything, it was called "Hullabaloo."

>> must have been 1969 or 1970, a fact that I never knew until this week.

> Bullshit, Will. Chicago (CTA or Chicago Transit Authority) played the Midwest Circuit in the early days and then went to Los Angeles. By 1969, they were already headlining (and in Atlanta):
> Oct 29, 1969 Chicago / Joe Cocker / Santana Municipal Auditorium Atlanta, Georgia, United States

> They never played in Columbus.

They may have, all the facts are not in yet....

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NancyGene wrote:

> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:28:58 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 6:03:43 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>
>> > We find it very suspicious that the everlypedia site is the only one which mentions the Columbus fair. If the Everly Brothers were actually at that county fair, they must have been ashamed of it.
>> >
>> >
>> One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing in Columbus.

Sure, we're seeing more listings of the Everly Brothers performing in smaller venues around that time.

> True, but we find it curious that the information should be so hard to find.. It shouldn't be buried deeply in a pdf and not listed anywhere else.

The Wiki pages you cite are not complete yet, which you seem to think are complete.

> There is no set list as there is for other appearances.

Look again, not all of the listings have set lists.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 17:04 UTC

On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 4:55:14 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> NancyGene wrote:
>
> > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 10:37:53 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > On 2022-06-18 2:59 p.m., George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> >> > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
> >> > >>>>> does not want to be written;
> >> > >>>>> it visits only to mock you.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> - gjd
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> And she says, baby
> >> > >>>> itโ€™s 3 a.m.
> >> > >>>> I must be lonely.
> >> > >>> Do you think I should change the time so that no one thinks of a song
> >> > >>> that also uses "3 a.m."? Hmm, let's see.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> By George, I've got it!
> >> > >>> "The poem at 25 or to 6 to 4."
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I had to look up the quote because I didn't think you referring to the
> >> > >> song I know it from:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nJ30dodvdc
> >> > >
> >> > > It's always nice to hear that, occasionally.
> >> > >
> >> > > Knowing your idiosyncratic sense of humor, I'm not convinced that you
> >> > > don't know the original. Just in case, though, I'm sending an OB link..
> >> > >
> >> > > Though it's rock, you may like it. It has a brassy arrangement that
> >> > > reminds me of a bluesband, and the lead guitar thingy sounds more jazz
> >> > > than rock to me. I hope that makes it more interesting to you.
> >> > Oh, yeah, the link:
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAYeN3Rp2E
> >> Interesting coincidence, I was discussing the music scene of the early 1970s here with a friend who is a decade older than me and Chicago Transit Authority, as Chicago was known at first, came up.
> >>
> >> Turns out that in their very early days, Chicago Transit Authority played here at a small rock and roll club called Hallabaloo,
> > There was no club called "Hallabaloo." If anything, it was called "Hullabaloo."
> >> must have been 1969 or 1970, a fact that I never knew until this week.
>
> > Bullshit, Will. Chicago (CTA or Chicago Transit Authority) played the Midwest Circuit in the early days and then went to Los Angeles. By 1969, they were already headlining (and in Atlanta):
> > Oct 29, 1969 Chicago / Joe Cocker / Santana Municipal Auditorium Atlanta, Georgia, United States
>
> > They never played in Columbus.
> They may have, all the facts are not in yet....

This was decades before the internet, so not everything is fully archived.

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 by: Victor H. - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 21:47 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> The poem at 3 a.m.

> The poem at 3 a.m.
> does not want to be written;
> it visits only to mock you.

> - gjd

Second read, quite well written...

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Victor H. wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> The poem at 3 a.m.

>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>> does not want to be written;
>> it visits only to mock you.

>> - gjd

> Second read, quite well written...

Agreed and seconded.

๐Ÿ™‚

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 by: George J. Dance - Fri, 8 Jul 2022 01:57 UTC

On 2022-06-26 4:25 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>> On 2022-06-15 4:35 p.m., General-Zod wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>>>
>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>>>> does not want to be written;
>>>> it visits only to mock you.
>>>
>>>> - gjd
>>>
>>> Quite a good short poem.....
>
>> Thanks. It needs a bump, though; so let me tell you what I'm starting
>> off here. I got the idea after I was trolled into posting "Usenet's
>> Greatest Poet" on aapc, and it ended up on the front page there for weeks.
>
>> Now that I was posting poetry again, I had to find some to post. I
>> top-posted a couple of limericks (which have also been bumping on and
>> off the front page). By then I'd remembered the "April" section of
>> /Doggerel/, full of similar satires. None of it can be read at present,
>> and here's a way to introduce it to people who haven't read it or have
>> forgotten it.
>
>> This is the first poem in "April" (following the title tercet). It isn't
>> a satire on anyone, but it's about writing and its difficulty, so it
>> belonged in the "poetry" section. (April's National Poetry Month in our
>> two countries, but you probably knew that).
>
> The "Wayward Muse", as I often refer to her.
>

Originally I was considering replacing it with "A Work of Art," but I
think it words as a good beginning to the chapter. I can always use
"Art" to begin the next page.

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 by: W-Dockery - Fri, 8 Jul 2022 20:06 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-06-26 4:25 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>> On 2022-06-15 4:35 p.m., General-Zod wrote:
>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>>>>
>>>>> The poem at 3 a.m.
>>>>> does not want to be written;
>>>>> it visits only to mock you.
>>>>
>>>>> - gjd
>>>>
>>>> Quite a good short poem.....
>>
>>> Thanks. It needs a bump, though; so let me tell you what I'm starting
>>> off here. I got the idea after I was trolled into posting "Usenet's
>>> Greatest Poet" on aapc, and it ended up on the front page there for weeks.
>>
>>> Now that I was posting poetry again, I had to find some to post. I
>>> top-posted a couple of limericks (which have also been bumping on and
>>> off the front page). By then I'd remembered the "April" section of
>>> /Doggerel/, full of similar satires. None of it can be read at present,
>>> and here's a way to introduce it to people who haven't read it or have
>>> forgotten it.
>>
>>> This is the first poem in "April" (following the title tercet). It isn't
>>> a satire on anyone, but it's about writing and its difficulty, so it
>>> belonged in the "poetry" section. (April's National Poetry Month in our
>>> two countries, but you probably knew that).
>>
>> The "Wayward Muse", as I often refer to her.
>>

> Originally I was considering replacing it with "A Work of Art," but I
> think it words as a good beginning to the chapter. I can always use
> "Art" to begin the next page.

I think definitely keep them both.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 9 Jul 2022 13:13 UTC

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 5:45:17 PM UTC-4, Rocky Stoneberg wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > NancyGene wrote:
>
> >> the Everly Brothers did not play the County Fair in Columbus
>
> > Yes, turns out that the Everly Brothers /did/ do concerts in Columbus, GA in 1970:
>
> > http://www.hillmanweb.com/everly/refs/everlypedia4.pdf
>
> > 1970
> > 12th - 14th October: Chattahoochee Valley Fair in Columbus, Georgia.
>
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > HTH and HAND.
>
> Glad it was found, Doc...!!

Yes, another matter settled.

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Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.

Not exactly.

The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:

https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 04:27 UTC

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:45:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> Not exactly.
>
> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
>
> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc

It was a summer replacement show (filling in for Johnny Cash in the inter-season no man's land).

Michael Pendragon
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 by: W.Dockery - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 09:16 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >
>> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
>>
>> Not exactly.
>>
>> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc

> It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.

10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.

https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:39 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >
> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> >>
> >> Not exactly.
> >>
> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
>
> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
>
> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
>
> HTH and HAND.

I'm sure it's a big deal to someone from Columbus.

HtH & HAND

Michael Pendragon
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Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
>> >>
>> >> Not exactly.
>> >>
>> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
>> >>
>> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
>> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
>>
>> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
>>
>> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> I'm sure it's a big deal

Obviously.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 13:28 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> >> >>
> >> >> Not exactly.
> >> >>
> >> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
> >> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
> >>
> >> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
> >>
> >> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
>
> > I'm sure it's a big deal in Columbus. [TEXT RESTORED]
> Obviously.

Why do you post-edit every message you "respond" to?

Why do you endlessly whine about others "misrepresenting" you when you misrepresent others each time you post-edit their messages?

Why are you such an imbecilic douchebag, Donkey?

Michael Pendragon
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-- Will Dockery, having an acid flashback?

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 13:44 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Not exactly.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
> > >> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
> > >>
> > >> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
> > >>
> > >> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
> > >>
> > >> HTH and HAND.
> >
> > > I'm sure it's a big deal in Columbus. [TEXT RESTORED]
> > Obviously.
>
> Why do you post-edit

Yes should know the answer to that by now, Pendragon.

I will continue to correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.

HTH and HAND.

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