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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 13:52 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:44:11 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Not exactly.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
> > > >> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
> > > >>
> > > >> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > >
> > > > I'm sure it's a big deal in Columbus. [TEXT RESTORED]
> > > Obviously.
> >
> > Why do you post-edit
> Yes should know the answer to that by now, Pendragon.
>
> I will continue to correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.
>
> HTH and HAND.

What alleged misrepresentation did your post-edit set straight, above?

Michael Pendragon
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The attempt you made at misrepresentation that a network television show on ABC starring the Everly Brothers wasn't a big deal, Pendragon.

A network television show in 1970 was obviously a big deal, as my post stated.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 14:37 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> The attempt you made at misrepresentation that a network television show on ABC starring the Everly Brothers wasn't a big deal, Pendragon.
>
> A network television show in 1970 was obviously a big deal, as my post stated.
>
> HTH and HAND.

And how do you think that deleting "to someone from Columbus" accomplishes this?

Michael Pendragon
"If the viewer doesn't read the language the film is in, that's why subtitles are provided."
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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 15:06 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 10:15:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:15:15 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>> >> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not exactly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
>> >>
>> >> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
>> >> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
>> >>
>> >> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
>>
>> > I'm sure it's a big deal to someone from Columbus.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Above, the attempt you made at misrepresentation that a network television show on ABC starring the Everly Brothers wasn't a big deal, Pendragon.
>>
>> A network television show in 1970 was obviously a big deal, as my post stated.
>
> And how do you think that deleting

Like I said, deleting your lies and misrepresentations from my posts means I don't repeat and help spread them.

Stop playing stupid, Pendragon, I'm sure you understand that.

Of course I don't expect you to admit it.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Coco DeSockmonkey - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 15:27 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:06:50 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 10:15:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:15:15 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Not exactly.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
> >> >>
> >> >> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
> >> >> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
> >>
> >> > I'm sure it's a big deal to someone from Columbus.
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> Above, the attempt you made at misrepresentation that a network television show on ABC starring the Everly Brothers wasn't a big deal, Pendragon.
> >>
> >> A network television show in 1970 was obviously a big deal, as my post stated.
> >
> > And how do you think that deleting
> Like I said, deleting your lies and misrepresentations from my posts means I don't repeat and help spread them.
>
> Stop playing stupid, Pendragon, I'm sure you understand that.
>
> Of course I don't expect you to admit it.

I don't see how deleting "to someone from Columbus" makes the Everly's show any bigger.

What I see is a sub-moronic jackass changing my statement for no other reason than to childishly pretend that I was actually agreeing with him.

Why are you such a stupid little jackass, Donkey?

Michael Pendragon
PJR: Do you ever read the posts to which you reply?
WILL DOCKERY: Okay, good point.

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I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the Importance of the Everly Brothers television show.

HTH and HAND.

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On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:30:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the Importance of the Everly Brothers television show.

How does the inclusion of "to someone from Columbus" diminish the importance of the show?

Haven't you always insisted that Columbus is at the cutting edge of the art and entertainment world?

Michael Pendragon
"Will Dockery smelled pretty good for a donkey."
-- Ahmos Zu-Bolton, Pegasus: The Carver High Literary Journal, May 1976

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Like I said, I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the Importance of the Everly Brothers television show.

HTH and HAND, again.

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 by: NancyGene - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 16:29 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:06:39 PM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:30:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the Importance of the Everly Brothers television show.
> How does the inclusion of "to someone from Columbus" diminish the importance of the show?

Also, the show wasn't that important. In the 1970s "everybody" got a summer replacement show!
http://www.tvparty.com/variety3.html
"In the Seventies, everybody got a variety show."
For every genuine hit show like The Sonny and Cher Show, there were:
"Tim Conway, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, Melba Moore and Clifton Davis, Burns and Schreiber, The Brady Bunch, Ken Berry, Jim Stafford, Julie Andrews, Mac Davis, Glen Campbell, Barbara McNair, Ray Stevens, Ken Berry, David Steinberg, Dick Clark, Dick Cavett, Leslie Uggams, Donna Fargo, Don Knotts, McLean Stevenson, Rich Little, Chuck Barris, Lola Falana, Mary Tyler Moore, Tom Jones, Carol Burnett, Liberace, Dinah Shore, The Hudson Brothers, The Smothers Brothers, The Carpenters, Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters, Shields and Yarnell, The Manhattan Transfer, The Starland Vocal Band, Peter Marshall, Kenny Rogers, Pat Paulsen, The Jacksons, John Byner, Johnny Cash, Jerry Reed, Helen Reddy, Andy Williams, Sammy Davis, Jr., Dinah Shore, Kelly Monteith, Sha Na Na, Bill Cosby, Ben Vereen, Bobby Darin, Bobby Goldsboro, Bobby Vinton, Dolly Parton, Richard Pryor, Burt Convy, Frankie Avalon, Howard Cosell and of course The Muppets."


> Haven't you always insisted that Columbus is at the cutting edge of the art and entertainment world?
We are sure that they barely had a tv signal.

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 16:33 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 12:29:01 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:06:39 PM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:30:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the Importance of the Everly Brothers television show.
> > How does the inclusion of "to someone from Columbus" diminish the importance of the show?
> Also, the show wasn't that important. In the 1970s "everybody" got a summer replacement show!
> http://www.tvparty.com/variety3.html
> "In the Seventies, everybody got a variety show."
> For every genuine hit show like The Sonny and Cher Show, there were:
> "Tim Conway, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, Melba Moore and Clifton Davis, Burns and Schreiber, The Brady Bunch, Ken Berry, Jim Stafford, Julie Andrews, Mac Davis, Glen Campbell, Barbara McNair, Ray Stevens, Ken Berry, David Steinberg, Dick Clark, Dick Cavett, Leslie Uggams, Donna Fargo, Don Knotts, McLean Stevenson, Rich Little, Chuck Barris, Lola Falana, Mary Tyler Moore, Tom Jones, Carol Burnett, Liberace, Dinah Shore, The Hudson Brothers, The Smothers Brothers, The Carpenters, Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters, Shields and Yarnell, The Manhattan Transfer, The Starland Vocal Band, Peter Marshall, Kenny Rogers, Pat Paulsen, The Jacksons, John Byner, Johnny Cash, Jerry Reed, Helen Reddy, Andy Williams, Sammy Davis, Jr., Dinah Shore, Kelly Monteith, Sha Na Na, Bill Cosby, Ben Vereen, Bobby Darin, Bobby Goldsboro, Bobby Vinton, Dolly Parton, Richard Pryor, Burt Convy, Frankie Avalon, Howard Cosell and of course The Muppets."

Sure, variety shows were popular back in 1970.

> > Haven't you always insisted that Columbus is at the cutting edge of the art and entertainment world?
> We are sure that they barely had a tv signal.

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On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:33:05 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 12:29:01 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:06:39 PM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:30:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > > I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the Importance of the Everly Brothers television show.
> > > How does the inclusion of "to someone from Columbus" diminish the importance of the show?
> > Also, the show wasn't that important. In the 1970s "everybody" got a summer replacement show!
> > http://www.tvparty.com/variety3.html
> > "In the Seventies, everybody got a variety show."
> > For every genuine hit show like The Sonny and Cher Show, there were:
> > "Tim Conway, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, Melba Moore and Clifton Davis, Burns and Schreiber, The Brady Bunch, Ken Berry, Jim Stafford, Julie Andrews, Mac Davis, Glen Campbell, Barbara McNair, Ray Stevens, Ken Berry, David Steinberg, Dick Clark, Dick Cavett, Leslie Uggams, Donna Fargo, Don Knotts, McLean Stevenson, Rich Little, Chuck Barris, Lola Falana, Mary Tyler Moore, Tom Jones, Carol Burnett, Liberace, Dinah Shore, The Hudson Brothers, The Smothers Brothers, The Carpenters, Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters, Shields and Yarnell, The Manhattan Transfer, The Starland Vocal Band, Peter Marshall, Kenny Rogers, Pat Paulsen, The Jacksons, John Byner, Johnny Cash, Jerry Reed, Helen Reddy, Andy Williams, Sammy Davis, Jr., Dinah Shore, Kelly Monteith, Sha Na Na, Bill Cosby, Ben Vereen, Bobby Darin, Bobby Goldsboro, Bobby Vinton, Dolly Parton, Richard Pryor, Burt Convy, Frankie Avalon, Howard Cosell and of course The Muppets."
> Sure, variety shows were popular back in 1970.
> > > Haven't you always insisted that Columbus is at the cutting edge of the art and entertainment world?
> > We are sure that they barely had a tv signal.

Dockery, you again missed the point. The networks were just trying to fill air time during the summer, when people had other things to do and viewership was down. Having a show like this was not a prestige gig. Remember the wonderful show "Joey and Dad?" Neither do we.

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On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 12:33:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 12:29:01 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:06:39 PM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:30:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > > I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the Importance of the Everly Brothers television show.
> > > How does the inclusion of "to someone from Columbus" diminish the importance of the show?
> > Also, the show wasn't that important. In the 1970s "everybody" got a summer replacement show!
> > http://www.tvparty.com/variety3.html
> > "In the Seventies, everybody got a variety show."
> > For every genuine hit show like The Sonny and Cher Show, there were:
> > "Tim Conway, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, Melba Moore and Clifton Davis, Burns and Schreiber, The Brady Bunch, Ken Berry, Jim Stafford, Julie Andrews, Mac Davis, Glen Campbell, Barbara McNair, Ray Stevens, Ken Berry, David Steinberg, Dick Clark, Dick Cavett, Leslie Uggams, Donna Fargo, Don Knotts, McLean Stevenson, Rich Little, Chuck Barris, Lola Falana, Mary Tyler Moore, Tom Jones, Carol Burnett, Liberace, Dinah Shore, The Hudson Brothers, The Smothers Brothers, The Carpenters, Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters, Shields and Yarnell, The Manhattan Transfer, The Starland Vocal Band, Peter Marshall, Kenny Rogers, Pat Paulsen, The Jacksons, John Byner, Johnny Cash, Jerry Reed, Helen Reddy, Andy Williams, Sammy Davis, Jr., Dinah Shore, Kelly Monteith, Sha Na Na, Bill Cosby, Ben Vereen, Bobby Darin, Bobby Goldsboro, Bobby Vinton, Dolly Parton, Richard Pryor, Burt Convy, Frankie Avalon, Howard Cosell and of course The Muppets."
> Sure, variety shows were popular back in 1970.

But this was just something to put on in place.
Not an actual series.

> > > Haven't you always insisted that Columbus is at the cutting edge of the art and entertainment world?
> > We are sure that they barely had a tv signal.

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On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:30:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the Importance of the Everly Brothers television show.
>
> HTH and HAND.

You realize that "deleting" doesn't remove the original post, right?
Or perhaps you don't...you're pretty stupid.

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On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:44:11 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Not exactly.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
> > > >> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
> > > >>
> > > >> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > >
> > > > I'm sure it's a big deal in Columbus. [TEXT RESTORED]
> > > Obviously.
> >
> > Why do you post-edit
> Yes should know the answer to that by now, Pendragon.
>
> I will continue to correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.
>
Translation: I"I will continue to troll, post-edit and otherwise rewrite what I see as reality, not what IS REALITY OR WHAT OTHERS HAVE AS OPINIONS OR FACTS."

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On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:20:16 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> > On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Not exactly.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
> > >> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
> > >>
> > >> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
> > >>
> > >> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
> > >>
> > >> HTH and HAND.
> >
> > > I'm sure it's a big deal in Columbus. [TEXT RESTORED]
> > Obviously.
>
> Why do you post-edit every message you "respond" to?

Because he is a delusional, narcissistic coward.

>
> Why do you endlessly whine about others "misrepresenting" you when you misrepresent others each time you post-edit their messages?

Because he is a delusional, narcissistic coward.

>
> Why are you such an imbecilic douchebag, Donkey?

Because he is a delusional, narcissistic coward.
>
>
> Michael Pendragon
> "True, the poem mails you, if so."
> -- Will Dockery, having an acid flashback?

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 by: W.Dockery - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:28 UTC

Family Guy wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 12:33:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 12:29:01 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:06:39 PM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:30:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> > > > I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the importance of the Everly Brothers television show.
>> > > How does the inclusion of "to someone from Columbus" diminish the importance of the show?
>> > Also, the show wasn't that important. In the 1970s "everybody" got a summer replacement show!
>> > http://www.tvparty.com/variety3.html
>> > "In the Seventies, everybody got a variety show."
>> > For every genuine hit show like The Sonny and Cher Show, there were:
>> > "Tim Conway, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, Melba Moore and Clifton Davis, Burns and Schreiber, The Brady Bunch, Ken Berry, Jim Stafford, Julie Andrews, Mac Davis, Glen Campbell, Barbara McNair, Ray Stevens, Ken Berry, David Steinberg, Dick Clark, Dick Cavett, Leslie Uggams, Donna Fargo, Don Knotts, McLean Stevenson, Rich Little, Chuck Barris, Lola Falana, Mary Tyler Moore, Tom Jones, Carol Burnett, Liberace, Dinah Shore, The Hudson Brothers, The Smothers Brothers, The Carpenters, Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters, Shields and Yarnell, The Manhattan Transfer, The Starland Vocal Band, Peter Marshall, Kenny Rogers, Pat Paulsen, The Jacksons, John Byner, Johnny Cash, Jerry Reed, Helen Reddy, Andy Williams, Sammy Davis, Jr., Dinah Shore, Kelly Monteith, Sha Na Na, Bill Cosby, Ben Vereen, Bobby Darin, Bobby Goldsboro, Bobby Vinton, Dolly Parton, Richard Pryor, Burt Convy, Frankie Avalon, Howard Cosell and of course The Muppets."
>> Sure, variety shows were popular back in 1970.

> But this was just something to put on in place.
> Not an actual series.

Yes, it was an ABC television series in the Summer of 1970.

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:51 UTC

Family Guy wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:44:11 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
>> > > >> >> > One should also bear in mind that the Everly Brothers' career had bottomed out by 1970... so it is conceivable that they would have been performing at the Hog Sloppers' Hoedown in Columbus.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Not exactly.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> The Everly Brothers actually had their own network television show in the Summer of 1970:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> https://youtu.be/fJrLnc07Pvc
>> > > >> > It was a summer replacement (off-season) for Johnny Cash. It lasted exactly 10 episodes.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> 10 episodes on national television is pretty good exposure, and, being a Summer replacement show, would only be planned to run for a few weeks.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> https://sharetv.com/shows/the_everly_brothers_show
>> > > >>
>> > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> > >
>> > > > I'm sure it's a big deal in Columbus. [TEXT RESTORED]
>> > > Obviously.
>> >
>> > Why do you post-edit
>> Yes should know the answer to that by now, Pendragon.
>>
>> I will continue to correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.
>>
> Translation: I"I will continue

Yes, I'll continue to correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.

HTH and HAND.

🙂

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:52 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 2:30:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Family Guy wrote:
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> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 12:33:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 12:29:01 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:06:39 PM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 11:30:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > I deleted the line because it was a misrepresentation of the importance of the Everly Brothers television show.
> >> > > How does the inclusion of "to someone from Columbus" diminish the importance of the show?
> >> > Also, the show wasn't that important. In the 1970s "everybody" got a summer replacement show!
> >> > http://www.tvparty.com/variety3.html
> >> > "In the Seventies, everybody got a variety show."
> >> > For every genuine hit show like The Sonny and Cher Show, there were:
> >> > "Tim Conway, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Captain and Tennille, Donny and Marie, Melba Moore and Clifton Davis, Burns and Schreiber, The Brady Bunch, Ken Berry, Jim Stafford, Julie Andrews, Mac Davis, Glen Campbell, Barbara McNair, Ray Stevens, Ken Berry, David Steinberg, Dick Clark, Dick Cavett, Leslie Uggams, Donna Fargo, Don Knotts, McLean Stevenson, Rich Little, Chuck Barris, Lola Falana, Mary Tyler Moore, Tom Jones, Carol Burnett, Liberace, Dinah Shore, The Hudson Brothers, The Smothers Brothers, The Carpenters, Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters, Shields and Yarnell, The Manhattan Transfer, The Starland Vocal Band, Peter Marshall, Kenny Rogers, Pat Paulsen, The Jacksons, John Byner, Johnny Cash, Jerry Reed, Helen Reddy, Andy Williams, Sammy Davis, Jr., Dinah Shore, Kelly Monteith, Sha Na Na, Bill Cosby, Ben Vereen, Bobby Darin, Bobby Goldsboro, Bobby Vinton, Dolly Parton, Richard Pryor, Burt Convy, Frankie Avalon, Howard Cosell and of course The Muppets."
> >> Sure, variety shows were popular back in 1970.
>
> > But this was just something to put on in place.
> > Not an actual series.
> Yes, it was an ABC television series in the Summer of 1970.

No, Donkey. It was a Summer replacement series.

It was not a part of their Fall-June Season.

TV series go on hiatus from June to September. During that time, the networks would fill the time slots with second-rate fare. Variety shows were inexpensive, required only one set, and the hosting artist and their guest come with a ready-made fan base.

How many hits did the Everlys have on the charts in 1970, Donkey?

Exactly.

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So the Everly Brothers Show was a Summer replacement series, it was still a network television show on ABC broadcast nationwide.

Your misrepresentation was intended to belittle their achievement, and thus was deleted from the post.

HTH and HAND.

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Will Dockery wrote:
>
> So the Everly Brothers Show was a Summer replacement series, it was still a network television show on ABC broadcast nationwide.

> Your misrepresentation was intended to belittle their achievement, and thus was deleted from the post.

> HTH and HAND.

And what a great show it was...!

***************Ricky Nelson performs with the Everly Brothers on their show in 1970.******************

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgvSfjluRfA

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 14 Jul 2022 01:43 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> So the Everly Brothers Show was a Summer replacement series, it was still a network television show on ABC broadcast nationwide.
>
> Your misrepresentation was intended to belittle their achievement, and thus was deleted from the post.
>
> HTH and HAND.

How does someone from Columbus thinking it's a big deal belittle it?

You must have an awfully low opinion of Columbus if you think that.

What happened? Is Columbus no longer the central hub of the art and entertainment world?

Michael Pendragon
"Senetto, cameras and photographs were not so common in 1976 as they are now, so I don't have a huge number of photos from those days."
Will Dockery on why no photo of him and 'friend' Zu-Boltin has been posted.

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 14 Jul 2022 02:15 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> So the Everly Brothers Show was a Summer replacement series, it was still a network television show on ABC broadcast nationwide.
>>
>> Your misrepresentation was intended to belittle their achievement, and thus was deleted from the post.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> How does someone from Columbus thinking it's a big deal

The television show was a big deal all across the country in 1970, not just to the people of one small town.

The television show was definitely a big deal for the Everly Brothers in the Summer of 1970.

HTH and HAND.

🙂

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 14 Jul 2022 02:51 UTC

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 10:15:18 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> So the Everly Brothers Show was a Summer replacement series, it was still a network television show on ABC broadcast nationwide.
> >>
> >> Your misrepresentation was intended to belittle their achievement, and thus was deleted from the post.
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
>
> > How does someone from Columbus thinking it's a big deal
> The television show was a big deal all across the country in 1970, not just to the people of one small town.

Deleting "to someone from Columbus" has nothing to do with what people in other cities thought about it, Donkey.

It only has to do with what "someone from Columbus" (i.e., Will Donkey) thought about it.

> The television show was definitely a big deal for the Everly Brothers in the Summer of 1970.

How do you know whether it was a big deal for them?

You have shown no evidence that it was... all that you've offered is your own sense of awe at the concept of network television.

Summer television was throwaway fare. It was a good gig, it got them some publicity, it paid some bills.

But it was a big comedown from their glory days when they were riding high at the top of the charts.

Michael Pendragon
"The poet has the last, definitive, word on the meaning(s) of his poetry."
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On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 10:15:18 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
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> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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> >> So the Everly Brothers Show was a Summer replacement series, it was still a network television show on ABC broadcast nationwide.
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> >> Your misrepresentation was intended to belittle their achievement, and thus was deleted from the post.
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> >> HTH and HAND.
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> > How does someone from Columbus thinking it's a big deal
> The television show was a big deal all across the country in 1970, not just to the people of one small town.

You are backpedalling so fast you will probably snap a bone in your ankle.
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> The television show was definitely a big deal for the Everly Brothers in the Summer of 1970.
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But not as big of a deal as prior years.
> HTH and HAND.
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HTH and FOAD

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 14 Jul 2022 03:46 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 10:15:18 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 4:08:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> >> So the Everly Brothers Show was a Summer replacement series, it was still a network television show on ABC broadcast nationwide.
>> >>
>> >> Your misrepresentation was intended to belittle their achievement, and thus was deleted from the post.
>> >>
>> >> HTH and HAND.
>>
>> > How does someone from Columbus thinking it's a big deal
>
>> The television show was a big deal all across the country in 1970, not just to the people of one small town.

>

>> The television show was definitely a big deal for the Everly Brothers in the Summer of 1970.

> How do you know whether it was a big deal for them?

They seemed to have high hopes for the show, and even released a live double album at the same time named "The Everly Brothers Show" to tie in with the show.

Summer replacement series /did/ sometimes take off and get renewed, an example I remember was "The Glen Campbell Show", which was a big hit a year or two before the Everly Brothers got their shot.

It didn't pan out for them, of course, but it could have, and I think that they probably hoped it would, thus, the television show, and an album with heavy touring in the hinterlands to support the show.

That's my take on it, take it or leave it.

🙂

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