On 9/2/23 9:50 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>> detracts from
>>>>>>>>>> the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>> certainly do
>>>>>>>>>> thesame for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn
>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
>>>>>>>> kid's MAGA
>>>>>>>> t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his command
>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>> symbols.  If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted
>>>>>> that the
>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>
>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>
>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>> pregnancy is.  'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>> slogan.
>>>>
>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>
>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>
>> So has the trans issue.
>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>
>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>
>> Or illegal immigration?
>>
>> Interesting...
>
> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long as he
> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>
> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
> 'trans' statement...

Gigantic boobs? Is this about mammaries or Republicans?

On 9/2/23 6:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts from
>>>>>>>>> the learning environment (and they can), then they can certainly do
>>>>>>>>> thesame for teachers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn less
>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's MAGA
>>>>>>> t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite. E.g., I'll bet his command
>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from students').
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that the
>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>
>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>
>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>
>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party slogan.
>>>
>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>
>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>
> So has the trans issue.
>
>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>
> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>
> Or illegal immigration?
>
> Interesting...

How will that help you?

On 9/2/23 7:04 PM, FPP wrote:
> On 9/2/23 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts from
>>>>>> the learning environment (and they can), then they can certainly
>>>>>> do the
>>>>>> same for teachers.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn less
>>>>> shop
>>>>
>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's MAGA
>>>> t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>
>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his command
>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>
>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>> symbols.  If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from students').
>>
>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that the
>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>
>
> So all you have to do now is call an issue "highly political", and it's
> okay?  It's highly political because you guys made it so.
>
> What's inherently political about sexual identity?  Is you being hetero
> highly political too?

I think we might be looking at this wrong. To OKT's ilk "highly
political" might mean "conducting politics while high." They've gotta
love that legalized loco weed! In fact, Twat strikes me as the kind of
guy who gets high and gets an even shittier attitude.

On 9/3/23 7:05 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 9/2/23 9:50 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>> detracts from
>>>>>>>>>>> the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do
>>>>>>>>>>> thesame for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>> learn less
>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
>>>>>>>>> kid's MAGA
>>>>>>>>> t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>> symbols.  If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>> pregnancy is.  'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>
>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>
>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>
>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>
>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>
>>> Interesting...
>>
>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long as
>> he doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>
>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>> 'trans' statement...
>
>
> Gigantic boobs?  Is this about mammaries or Republicans?
>

I nearly pissed myself laughing when someone described "Fox and Friends"
as 'five boobs on a couch'.

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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On 9/2/2023 11:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Sep 2, 2023 at 7:41:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/2/2023 8:04 PM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 9/2/23 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> the learning environment (and they can), then they can certainly
>>>>>>>>>> do the
>>>>>>>>>> same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn less
>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's
>>>>>>>> MAGA
>>>>>>>> t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his command
>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>> symbols.  If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that the
>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>
>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>
>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>> pregnancy is.  'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party slogan.
>>>>
>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>
>>> Because political groups have claimed it as such.
>
> Political groups have claimed the gay rainbow flag as such as well, but for
> some reason that one's never an issue in schoolrooms.
>
>> And successfully. Maybe we need a third mention of the swastika's
>> innocent origins...
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8asoiu2czaoex4n/RainbowSS.png?dl=0

That's clever, amusing even. If only lots of right-wingers didn't see
it as actually meaningful, like Jesus's face in a potato chip...

In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
> > moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
> >>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
> >>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts
> >>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
> >>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn less
> >>>>>>>> shop
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's
> >>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite. E.g., I'll bet his command
> >>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
> >>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
> >>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
> >>>>>> students').
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that the
> >>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
> >>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
> >>>
> >>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
> >>>
> >>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
> >>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party slogan.
> >>>
> >>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
> >>> either, yet you claimed it was.
> >>
> >> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
> >
> > So has the trans issue.
> >
> >> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
> >> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
> >
> > So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
> >
> > Or illegal immigration?

No answer here?

> > Interesting...
>
> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it). As long as he
> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.

LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
proselytization...

> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
> 'trans' statement...

And yet...

On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts
>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn less
>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's
>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite. E.g., I'll bet his command
>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that the
>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party slogan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>
>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>
>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>
>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>
>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>
>>> Or illegal immigration?
>
> No answer here?
>
>>> Interesting...
>>
>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it). As long as he
>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>
> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
> proselytization...
>
>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>> 'trans' statement...
>
> And yet...

By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
population (...like homosexuality). And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a
generally apolitical meme, owing to its predominant headlines.

Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to persuade you?

In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
> > moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
> >>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
> >>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
> >>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
> >>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts
> >>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
> >>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn
> >>>>>>>>>> less
> >>>>>>>>>> shop
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's
> >>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite. E.g., I'll bet his command
> >>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
> >>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
> >>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
> >>>>>>>> students').
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
> >>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
> >>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
> >>>>>> slogan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
> >>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
> >>>
> >>> So has the trans issue.
> >>>
> >>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
> >>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
> >>>
> >>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
> >>>
> >>> Or illegal immigration?
> >
> > No answer here?
> >
> >>> Interesting...
> >>
> >> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
> >> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it). As long as he
> >> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
> >
> > LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
> > proselytization...
> >
> >> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
> >> 'trans' statement...
> >
> > And yet...
>
> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
> population (...like homosexuality).

Or blackness...

> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme

But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.

Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
homophobic bigotry.

> owing to its predominant headlines.

So headlines is what makes it political? Okay, then we're back to gay
and trans being political, too. They certainly generate a shit-ton of
headlines.

> Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to persuade you?

I can't know the intent of the boobs and what exactly they're trying to
persuade anyone.

On 9/3/2023 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn
>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's
>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite. E.g., I'll bet his command
>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>>
>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>
>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>
>>> No answer here?
>>>
>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>
>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it). As long as he
>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>
>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>> proselytization...
>>>
>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>
>>> And yet...
>>
>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
>> population (...like homosexuality).
>
> Or blackness...
>
>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>
> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>
> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
> homophobic bigotry.
>
>> owing to its predominant headlines.
>
> So headlines is what makes it political? Okay, then we're back to gay
> and trans being political, too. They certainly generate a shit-ton of
> headlines.
>
>> Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to persuade you?
>
> I can't know the intent of the boobs and what exactly they're trying to
> persuade anyone.

Then why do you insist (above) that they're "a form of proselytizing"?

Meanwhile, "headlines" are a big part of society's shared vocabulary.
And *my* sense is that the 'BLM' logo has acquired an unavoidable hue of
political violence ...as opposed to, say, the Rainbow Flag's parades.

Btw, those "Marxist public school teachers" you want condemned probably
don't know the first thing about Marxism.

In article <L06JM.569505$xMqa.202218@fx12.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

> On 9/3/2023 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
> > moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
> >>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
> >>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
> >>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
> >>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> less
> >>>>>>>>>>>> shop
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
> >>>>>>>>>>> kid's
> >>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite. E.g., I'll bet his
> >>>>>>>>>>>> command
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
> >>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
> >>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
> >>>>>>>>>> students').
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
> >>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
> >>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
> >>>>>>>> slogan.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
> >>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So has the trans issue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
> >>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or illegal immigration?
> >>>
> >>> No answer here?
> >>>
> >>>>> Interesting...
> >>>>
> >>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
> >>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it). As long as he
> >>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
> >>>
> >>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
> >>> proselytization...
> >>>
> >>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
> >>>> 'trans' statement...
> >>>
> >>> And yet...
> >>
> >> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
> >> population (...like homosexuality).
> >
> > Or blackness...
> >
> >> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
> >
> > But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
> > prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
> > politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
> >
> > Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
> > some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
> > blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
> > homophobic bigotry.
> >
> >> owing to its predominant headlines.
> >
> > So headlines is what makes it political? Okay, then we're back to gay
> > and trans being political, too. They certainly generate a shit-ton of
> > headlines.
> >
> >> Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to persuade you?
> >
> > I can't know the intent of the boobs and what exactly they're trying to
> > persuade anyone.
>
> Then why do you insist (above) that they're "a form of proselytizing"?

Knowing that it's proselytizing and knowing exactly what message is
intended are two different things.

> Meanwhile, "headlines" are a big part of society's shared vocabulary.
> And *my* sense is that the 'BLM' logo has acquired an unavoidable hue of
> political violence ...as opposed to, say, the Rainbow Flag's parades.
>
> Btw, those "Marxist public school teachers" you want condemned probably
> don't know the first thing about Marxism.

Well, that much is true. It's hilarious seeing today's proto-commies
filming their outrage on their iPhones.

On 9/3/2023 6:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <L06JM.569505$xMqa.202218@fx12.iad>, moviePig
> <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/3/2023 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>, moviePig
>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>, moviePig
>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>, moviePig
>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student attire that detracts from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning environment (and they can), then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can certainly do the same for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause the kids to learn less shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> objectively prove that a kid's MAGA t-shirt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E.g., I'll bet his command of their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation
>>>>>>>>>>>> prohibiting political symbols. If so, you might
>>>>>>>>>>>> object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt (though,
>>>>>>>>>>>> believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ
>>>>>>>>>>>> from students').
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and
>>>>>>>>>>> you've asserted that the teacher was behaving as
>>>>>>>>>>> a sexual activist, how would banning his behavior
>>>>>>>>>>> be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans'
>>>>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more
>>>>>>>>>> than, say, pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is
>>>>>>>>>> virtually a trademarked party slogan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have
>>>>>>>>> been political, either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized
>>>>>>>> political symbol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying
>>>>>>>> its statement ...whereas 'trans' is a minority
>>>>>>>> condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>>
>>>>> No answer here?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an
>>>>>> 'issue' (...except, of course, for those who take issue
>>>>>> with it). As long as he doesn't proselytize, how he
>>>>>> "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>>>> proselytization...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part
>>>>>> of a pro 'trans' statement...
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet...
>>>>
>>>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority
>>>> of the population (...like homosexuality).
>>>
>>> Or blackness...
>>>
>>>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>>>
>>> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers
>>> that prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do
>>> when the politics of conservative kids being censored is brought
>>> up here.
>>>
>>> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry
>>> from some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and
>>> convenient blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's
>>> blatantly homophobic bigotry.
>>>
>>>> owing to its predominant headlines.
>>>
>>> So headlines is what makes it political? Okay, then we're back to
>>> gay and trans being political, too. They certainly generate a
>>> shit-ton of headlines.
>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to
>>>> persuade you?
>>>
>>> I can't know the intent of the boobs and what exactly they're
>>> trying to persuade anyone.
>>
>> Then why do you insist (above) that they're "a form of
>> proselytizing"?
>
> Knowing that it's proselytizing and knowing exactly what message is
> intended are two different things.

I think you can't have the first without the second. E.g., when *I*
watched the big-boob video, the first "message" that came to mind was a
lampooning of our societal obsession with bodies (...which, btw, I would
not deem controversially "political").

>> Meanwhile, "headlines" are a big part of society's shared
>> vocabulary. And *my* sense is that the 'BLM' logo has acquired an
>> unavoidable hue of political violence ...as opposed to, say, the
>> Rainbow Flag's parades.
>>
>> Btw, those "Marxist public school teachers" you want condemned
>> probably don't know the first thing about Marxism.
>
> Well, that much is true. It's hilarious seeing today's proto-commies
> filming their outrage on their iPhones.

On 9/3/23 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn
>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's
>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite. E.g., I'll bet his command
>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>>
>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>
>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>
>>> No answer here?
>>>
>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>
>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it). As long as he
>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>
>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>> proselytization...
>>>
>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>
>>> And yet...
>>
>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
>> population (...like homosexuality).
>
> Or blackness...
>
>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>
> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>
> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
> homophobic bigotry.
>
>> owing to its predominant headlines.
>
> So headlines is what makes it political? Okay, then we're back to gay
> and trans being political, too. They certainly generate a shit-ton of
> headlines.
>
>> Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to persuade you?
>
> I can't know the intent of the boobs and what exactly they're trying to
> persuade anyone.
>

Please, show your work. Where have I said anything homophobic or bigoted?

Or are you saying that if I didn't oppose something, I must be for it?
In that case, I'm going to assume you're pro-cannibalism and
pro-Rosicrucianism, since I've never heard you denounce either.

Fucking Rosicrucianist!

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

On 9/3/23 4:29 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 9/3/2023 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>>      moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
>>>>>>>>>>>> kid's
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>> political,
>>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>
>>>> No answer here?
>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>>
>>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long
>>>>> as he
>>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>>> proselytization...
>>>>
>>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>>
>>>> And yet...
>>>
>>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
>>> population (...like homosexuality).
>>
>> Or blackness...
>>
>>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>>
>> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
>> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
>> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>>
>> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
>> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
>> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
>> homophobic bigotry.
>>
>>> owing to its predominant headlines.
>>
>> So headlines is what makes it political? Okay, then we're back to gay
>> and trans being political, too. They certainly generate a shit-ton of
>> headlines.
>>
>>> Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to persuade you?
>>
>> I can't know the intent of the boobs and what exactly they're trying to
>> persuade anyone.
>
> Then why do you insist (above) that they're "a form of proselytizing"?
>
> Meanwhile, "headlines" are a big part of society's shared vocabulary.
> And *my* sense is that the 'BLM' logo has acquired an unavoidable hue of
> political violence ...as opposed to, say, the Rainbow Flag's parades.
>
> Btw, those "Marxist public school teachers" you want condemned probably
> don't know the first thing about Marxism.
>
>

Why, yes... I guess not wanting the state to murder black people is
purely political.

Which political party is FOR the state murdering black people, then?
Please, tell us. (I think I already know the answer, though.)

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> On 9/3/23 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>>      moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
>>>>>>>>>>>> kid's
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>> political,
>>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>
>>>> No answer here?
>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>>
>>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long
>>>>> as he
>>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>>> proselytization...
>>>>
>>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>>
>>>> And yet...
>>>
>>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
>>> population (...like homosexuality).
>>
>> Or blackness...
>>
>>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>>
>> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
>> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
>> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>>
>> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
>> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
>> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
>> homophobic bigotry.

Oh, please spare us the lies. I'm not dancing because you want me to.
That's like me asking you to denounce the raging misogyny. Or your own
raging homophobia and blatant racism.

And I will provide my receipts, unlike you. Here you are defending the
blatantly racist song, "Barack the Magic Negro". Not only did you not
denounce it - you DEFENDED it.

> On 2015-03-01 17:06:36 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
"Barack the Magic Negro"
>
> Actually, Limbaugh had that song created by Paul Shanklin as a satire
> after left-leaning L.A. Times writer David Ehrenstein repeatedly
> referred to candidate Obama as a "magic negro" in his op ed columns.
> Limbaugh was mocking the extreme sycophancy of Obama's worshippers.
>
> Nothing racist or hateful there. Just truthful.

See? That wasn't hard, now was it?
I'm not Trotsky's keeper. We agree on some things, and disagree on
much, much more.

So what? I'm supposed to give a shit about what YOU want me to do?

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>> On 9/3/23 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>      moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a kid's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting
>>>>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've
>>>>>>>>>>> asserted that
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>> political,
>>>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its
>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>>
>>>>> No answer here?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long
>>>>>> as he
>>>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>>>> proselytization...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet...
>>>>
>>>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
>>>> population (...like homosexuality).
>>>
>>> Or blackness...
>>>
>>>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>>>
>>> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
>>> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
>>> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>>>
>>> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
>>> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
>>> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
>>> homophobic bigotry.

Sure. No problem.

Trots: You're a bad boy. Stop calling Thannys friends faggots.
Please, and thank you in advance.

OK. That do it for you, Oathkeeper? Now you. Tell anim he's a
misogynist prick. That's for starters.

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On 9/3/23 7:29 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 9/3/23 7:05 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 9/2/23 9:50 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do
>>>>>>>>>>>> thesame for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>>> learn less
>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
>>>>>>>>>> kid's MAGA
>>>>>>>>>> t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>>> symbols.  If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted
>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>> pregnancy is.  'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>
>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>
>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>
>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>
>>>> Interesting...
>>>
>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long as
>>> he doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>
>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>> 'trans' statement...
>>
>>
>> Gigantic boobs?  Is this about mammaries or Republicans?
>>
>
>
> I nearly pissed myself laughing when someone described "Fox and Friends"
> as 'five boobs on a couch'.

Yesterday I posted on Facebook: "I think Fox was smart to change the
name to "Fox and Friends" from the original "Fox and Fake Friends."

As for the boob count, should the women count as two?

On 9/3/23 1:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that detracts
>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to learn less
>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a kid's
>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite. E.g., I'll bet his command
>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted that the
>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party slogan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>
>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>
>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>
>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>
>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>
>>> Or illegal immigration?
>
> No answer here?
>
>>> Interesting...
>>
>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it). As long as he
>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>
> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
> proselytization...

Wait, are you talking about a "troon" or the now MIA Malaria Trump?
What happened to her, did Trump have her killed? Why aren't right wing
assholes concerned?

>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>> 'trans' statement...
>
> And yet...

On 9/3/23 6:26 PM, FPP wrote:
> On 9/3/23 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>>      moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
>>>>>>>>>>>> kid's
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>> political,
>>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>
>>>> No answer here?
>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>>
>>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long
>>>>> as he
>>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>>> proselytization...
>>>>
>>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>>
>>>> And yet...
>>>
>>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
>>> population (...like homosexuality).
>>
>> Or blackness...
>>
>>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>>
>> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
>> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
>> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>>
>> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
>> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
>> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
>> homophobic bigotry.
>>
>>> owing to its predominant headlines.
>>
>> So headlines is what makes it political? Okay, then we're back to gay
>> and trans being political, too. They certainly generate a shit-ton of
>> headlines.
>>
>>> Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to persuade you?
>>
>> I can't know the intent of the boobs and what exactly they're trying to
>> persuade anyone.
>>
>
> Please, show your work.  Where have I said anything homophobic or bigoted?
>
> Or are you saying that if I didn't oppose something, I must be for it?
> In that case, I'm going to assume you're pro-cannibalism and
> pro-Rosicrucianism, since I've never heard you denounce either.
>
> Fucking Rosicrucianist!

It's starting to sound like if you're mean to Twat that makes you
"homophobic" because he's a closet homosexual just like his butt buddy
Anim8r.

On 9/3/23 7:23 PM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 9/3/23 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
>>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>      moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a kid's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shirt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've
>>>>>>>>>>>> asserted that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning
>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>>> political,
>>>>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political
>>>>>>>>> symbol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its
>>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No answer here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As
>>>>>>> long as he
>>>>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>>>>> proselytization...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet...
>>>>>
>>>>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
>>>>> population (...like homosexuality).
>>>>
>>>> Or blackness...
>>>>
>>>>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>>>>
>>>> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
>>>> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
>>>> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>>>>
>>>> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
>>>> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
>>>> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
>>>> homophobic bigotry.
>
> Sure.  No problem.
>
> Trots: You're a bad boy.  Stop calling Thannys friends faggots.
> Please, and thank you in advance.
>
> OK.  That do it for you, Oathkeeper?  Now you.  Tell anim he's a
> misogynist prick.  That's for starters.

I swear to make slightly more of an effort than Oathkeeper Weasel.

On 9/3/23 10:27 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 9/2/2023 11:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 2023 at 7:41:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/2/2023 8:04 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>>   On 9/2/23 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>   In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>   In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>      moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>   On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>   If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>> detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>   from
>>>>>>>>>>>   the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>   do the
>>>>>>>>>>>   same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>> learn less
>>>>>>>>>>   shop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
>>>>>>>>> kid's
>>>>>>>>>   MAGA
>>>>>>>>>   t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>   of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>>   symbols.  If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>   (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>   students').
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>   teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>   behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>   He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>   pregnancy is.  'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>>>   either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>
>>>>   Because political groups have claimed it as such.
>>
>> Political groups have claimed the gay rainbow flag as such as well,
>> but for
>> some reason that one's never an issue in schoolrooms.
>>
>>> And successfully.  Maybe we need a third mention of the swastika's
>>> innocent origins...
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8asoiu2czaoex4n/RainbowSS.png?dl=0
>
> That's clever, amusing even.  If only lots of right-wingers didn't see
> it as actually meaningful, like Jesus's face in a potato chip...

Holy potato chip Batman!

On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 16:30:26 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
wrote:

>Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue. Nor is 'trans',
>per se, a political one -- any more than, say, pregnancy is. 'MAGA',
>however, is virtually a trademarked party slogan.
>
>My recall is that the shop teacher didn't accompany his attire with any
>polemics. And, on its face, its "message" is actually multi-valent.

If I correctly understand what you mean by 'multi-valent' no it isn't.

At the same time, in a shop class schools routinely demand clothing
safe for in a shop setting (which differs from a math english or
science class) for teacher and student safety.

Prosthetic breast are NOT a solution for a medical problem nor a
result of plastic surgery so there should be no legal problem with the
school board demanding the teacher remove articles of clothing that
however much they may or may not accent his sexual identity (which I
question) but DEFINITELY both teacher and student have a right to a
safe teaching environment and ornamental breast prosthetics are NOT a
safety device in a shop classroom.

I remind you when this came up I talked about my grade 8 shop safety
presentation and specific types of clothing (the main one I remember
was baggy sweaters which could catch on tools or machinery since in
other classes I routinely worse such sweaters particularly in winter)
and suggested that while I didn't take a class poll, I am skeptical
after watching the safety video too many 8th graders in that class
slept well that night - it was one of those "don't let this happen to
you!" films which graphically showed examples of classroom accidents
that had occured.

I say again pendulous breasts DO present potential for either the
teacher getting caught or bumping a student into an unsafe position
and in a shop class that should be THE biggest no-no in the book!

On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 16:29:30 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
wrote:

>Then why do you insist (above) that they're "a form of proselytizing"?
>
>Meanwhile, "headlines" are a big part of society's shared vocabulary.
>And *my* sense is that the 'BLM' logo has acquired an unavoidable hue of
>political violence ...as opposed to, say, the Rainbow Flag's parades.
>
>Btw, those "Marxist public school teachers" you want condemned probably
>don't know the first thing about Marxism.

Yet I had a teacher who if not Marxist was extreme left (he was an
International Brigade alumnus) who taught mathematics and pre-calculus
and was one helluva teacher because he stuck to his subject and did it
VERY well indeed.

I'm pretty sure he knew my grandfather's politics (Grandad had run
twice for the federal Conservative party which this teacher abhored)
but never held it against me - I worked extra hard in math class and
thoroughly earned my "A". At the end of the year I asked him about the
brigades and he gave me a decent and honest answer - but that was
after class not in place of the actual course content.

Today it's the norm to denigrate somebody whose views you disagree
with - he knew his craft very well and delighted in sharing his
knowledge and I wish all my teachers had been as good at teaching as
he was. Yes I know I'm an old fart (my class has their 50th
anniversary reunion in 12 days and yes I've got my ticket) - but Mr
Bruce Ewen was one helluva man and it was a privilege to sit in his
class notwithstanding what the whole class knew was his politics.

(He also smoked like a chimney and had yellowed fingers but his
students never saw him with a cigarette or pipe as he felt it was his
personal vice and none of the kids' business)

On 9/4/23 3:29 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 9/3/23 7:23 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>> On 9/3/23 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
>>>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>      moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a kid's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shirt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>> asserted that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> banning his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>>>> political,
>>>>>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political
>>>>>>>>>> symbol
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its
>>>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No answer here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>>>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As
>>>>>>>> long as he
>>>>>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>>>>>> proselytization...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a
>>>>>>>> pro
>>>>>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> population (...like homosexuality).
>>>>>
>>>>> Or blackness...
>>>>>
>>>>>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>>>>>
>>>>> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
>>>>> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
>>>>> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
>>>>> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
>>>>> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
>>>>> homophobic bigotry.
>>
>> Sure.  No problem.
>>
>> Trots: You're a bad boy.  Stop calling Thannys friends faggots.
>> Please, and thank you in advance.
>>
>> OK.  That do it for you, Oathkeeper?  Now you.  Tell anim he's a
>> misogynist prick.  That's for starters.
>
>
> I swear to make slightly more of an effort than Oathkeeper Weasel.
>

Ok, then... now Thanny will do the same with some of his buddies here.
He will, won't he?

I mean, he'd never accept a double standard, amirite.
Not Thanny! Heaven forfend!

--
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Bible 25B.G.
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On 9/4/23 2:56 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 9/3/23 7:29 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 9/3/23 7:05 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 9/2/23 9:50 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thesame for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>>>> learn less
>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that a
>>>>>>>>>>> kid's MAGA
>>>>>>>>>>> t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting political
>>>>>>>>>> symbols.  If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've asserted
>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>> pregnancy is.  'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been political,
>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>>
>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its statement
>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>
>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>
>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long
>>>> as he doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>
>>>
>>> Gigantic boobs?  Is this about mammaries or Republicans?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I nearly pissed myself laughing when someone described "Fox and
>> Friends" as 'five boobs on a couch'.
>
>
> Yesterday I posted on Facebook: "I think Fox was smart to change the
> name to "Fox and Friends" from the original "Fox and Fake Friends."
>
> As for the boob count, should the women count as two?

Taking into account their record of sexual harassment accusations,
absolutely.

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On 9/4/23 3:20 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 9/3/23 6:26 PM, FPP wrote:
>> On 9/3/23 3:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <V%4JM.605511$qnnb.116860@fx11.iad>,
>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/3/2023 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <CvSIM.1083127$GMN3.777142@fx16.iad>,
>>>>>    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 7:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <lXOIM.700288$TCKc.328693@fx13.iad>,
>>>>>>>     moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 4:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <EXMIM.145340$VPEa.70085@fx33.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>      moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2023 3:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <KGtIM.174433$X02a.155451@fx46.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>>>       moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023 at 2:37:11 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2023 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they can regulate "distracting" student attire that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detracts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the learning environment (and they can), then they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do the same for teachers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd have to show that his giant boobs cause the kids to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more than the school has to objectively prove that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a kid's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA t-shirt causes the kids to learn less in math class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I suspect rather the opposite.  E.g., I'll bet his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of their attention was at an all-time high.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That school, we surmised, had a regulation prohibiting
>>>>>>>>>>>> political
>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols. If so, you might object to a *teacher* in a MAGA shirt
>>>>>>>>>>>> (though, believe it or not, teachers' rules can differ from
>>>>>>>>>>>> students').
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since the trans issue is highly political, and you've
>>>>>>>>>>> asserted that
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> teacher was behaving as a sexual activist, how would banning his
>>>>>>>>>>> behavior be any different from prohibiting MAGA shirts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Giant fake boobs aren't automatically a 'trans' issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He was claiming to be a woman. It was a trans issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nor is 'trans', per se, a political one -- any more than, say,
>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy is. 'MAGA', however, is virtually a trademarked party
>>>>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using that criteria, the Gadsden flag shouldn't have been
>>>>>>>>> political,
>>>>>>>>> either, yet you claimed it was.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Gadsden flag has become a generally recognized political symbol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So has the trans issue.
>>>>>>>> however admirable one my find the principle underlying its
>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>> ...whereas 'trans' is a minority condition, like homosexuality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So BLM isn't political because it deals with minorities?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or illegal immigration?
>>>>>
>>>>> No answer here?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His claiming to be trans doesn't automatically raise an 'issue'
>>>>>> (...except, of course, for those who take issue with it).  As long
>>>>>> as he
>>>>>> doesn't proselytize, how he "identifies" is nobody's business.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! Like those gigantic grotesque breasts aren't a form of
>>>>> proselytization...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Moreover, the gigantic boobs would seem dubious as any part of a pro
>>>>>> 'trans' statement...
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet...
>>>>
>>>> By 'minority condition' I mean one that affects only a minority of the
>>>> population (...like homosexuality).
>>>
>>> Or blackness...
>>>
>>>> And I haven't defended 'BLM' as a generally apolitical meme
>>>
>>> But you haven't condemned all the Marxist public school teachers that
>>> prominently display BLM's raised fist symbol the way you do when the
>>> politics of conservative kids being censored is brought up here.
>>>
>>> Just like you decry any sort of even implied or 'coded' bigotry from
>>> some posters here on RAT but seem to have a peculiar and convenient
>>> blind spot for Effa Pee Pee's and Trotsky the Hutt's blatantly
>>> homophobic bigotry.
>>>
>>>> owing to its predominant headlines.
>>>
>>> So headlines is what makes it political? Okay, then we're back to gay
>>> and trans being political, too. They certainly generate a shit-ton of
>>> headlines.
>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, of what did the big proselytizing boobs try to persuade you?
>>>
>>> I can't know the intent of the boobs and what exactly they're trying to
>>> persuade anyone.
>>>
>>
>> Please, show your work.  Where have I said anything homophobic or
>> bigoted?
>>
>> Or are you saying that if I didn't oppose something, I must be for it?
>> In that case, I'm going to assume you're pro-cannibalism and
>> pro-Rosicrucianism, since I've never heard you denounce either.
>>
>> Fucking Rosicrucianist!
>
>
> It's starting to sound like if you're mean to Twat that makes you
> "homophobic" because he's a closet homosexual just like his butt buddy
> Anim8r.
>

It sure would help if he'd stop talking about kids genitals, wouldn't it?

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"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0

Gracie, age 6.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0