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X-Subject: `Somebody's Off The Meds': Jennifer Rubin Blames GOP For Hamas Attack, Gets Roasted
 by: Ubiquitous - Mon, 9 Oct 2023 08:30 UTC

Washington Post blogger Jennifer Rubin took some serious backlash on Saturday
after she suggested in an X post that the GOP was somehow responsible for
creating the conditions that led to Hamas� unprovoked attack on Israel.

Rubin appeared to be lashing out at Republicans, many of whom had suggested
that President Joe Biden�s failures in foreign policy � particularly the
disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021 and the recent deal freeing up
$6 billion in Iranian oil money � had ultimately led to the attack on Israel,
a close ally.

�How about this: With US House in chaos and US military promotions on hold,
Hamas struck. Republicans� weakness invites terror,� Rubin posted.

How about this: With US House in chaos and US military promotions on
hold, Hamas struck. Republicans' weakness invites terror.

� Jennifer Truthful, Not Neutral Rubin (@JRubinBlogger)
October 7, 2023

�You seriously think this operation was planned in a week and that the
principal variables in the decision were Hamas�s fear of Kevin McCarthy &
some US generals not getting promoted?� Dan McLaughlin posted.

�Yeah, those young angry men half a world away were just waiting for our
House of Representatives to be leaderless over a holiday weekend in order to
take action,� another posted. �How about this: You�re an idiot.�

Yeah, those young angry men half a world away were just waiting for
our House of Representatives to be leaderless over a holiday weekend
in order to take action.

How about this: You're an idiot. https://t.co/tM6x5SsV3q

� Leslie McAdoo Gordon ???? (@McAdooGordon) October 7, 2023

�Hamas struck because someone didn�t get another gold star?� Margot Cleveland
wondered.

�Somebody�s off the meds,� added Real Clear Politics co-founder and president
Tom Bevan.

Somebody�s off the meds. https://t.co/4k0fPH3z4K

� Tom Bevan (@TomBevanRCP) October 7, 2023

�The crap is wrong with you? First of all, Hamas was not sitting around
waiting for the GOP to do a song and dance to start a blood-lust hatred for
the Jews,� @Artist_Angie posted. �And 2nd of all if ANYONE showed weakness it
was Joe �Let�s leave a crap ton of military equipment in Afghanistan and
flee� Biden.�

The crap is wrong with you?
First of all, Hamas was not sitting around waiting for the GOP to do
a song and dance to start a blood-lust hatred for the Jews.

And 2nd of all if ANYONE showed weakness it was Joe 'Let's leave a
crap ton of military equipment in Afghanistan and�
https://t.co/bkBoYpDKnr

� Artist_Angie: Sensei of Sarcasm (@Artist_Angie) October 7, 2023

�You are a heinous traitor to your people,� Ben Domenech said.

�Look, I�m no Republican and the fact that military promotions are on hold is
horrific, but Hamas definitely doesn�t care. And as someone who actually
worked with Mossad and Shin Bet, they don�t either,� former CIA and FBI agent
Tracy Walder said.

Look, I�m no Republican and the fact that military promotions are on
hold is horrific, but Hamas definitely doesn�t care. And as someone
who actually worked with Mossad and Shin Bet, they don�t either

� Tracy Walder (@tracy_walder) October 7, 2023

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 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 17 Oct 2023 08:30 UTC

AOC just released a video of herself where she is clearly more worried
about the �ethnic cleansing� of the Palestinians than what we all saw
this past weekend, which was the ethnic cleansing of Jews by Hamas.

She does mention supporting Israel�s �defensive capacities�, but that�s
almost an afterthought to her real point, which is to accuse Israel of
perpetrating an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

Watch below:
https://twitter.com/RepAOC/status/1712516046039691330

It�s outrageous for AOC to just gloss over the massacre of Jews
committed by Hamas this past weekend and to suggest, even remotely,
that Israel will be carrying out an �ethnic cleansing� of Palestinians.
Her comments are vile but they get even worse.

AOC said �the United States has a responsibility to ensure�that horrors
do not happen in the names of victims who do not want their tragedy
used to justify further violence and injustice.� What the hell? She�s
using these massacred victims to justify her outrageous point about
Israel ethnically cleansing the Palestinians. Israelis were brutally
murdered. They were burned alive. Babies were decapitated. The death
toll is upwards of 1,300 now. Israel has a right and responsibility to
defend itself from this scourge, but all this Jew-hater is worried
about is the poor Palestinians.

This is just straight-up evil in my opinion, and that�s an
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X-Subject: Biden: Hamas Attacked Israel Because I Was Going To Bring Peace To Middle East
 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:30 UTC

President Joe Biden claimed during a press conference on Friday that the
reason Hamas terrorists murdered 1,200 Israelis on October 7 was because he
was getting ready to bring peace to the Middle East.

The claim by Biden comes as chaos and war have broken out in many parts of
the world under his administration as those who would seek to harm the West
sense weakness from the administration.

A reporter asked Biden what cooperation he was hoping to get from Arab
leaders and what he was hearing from them when he talked to them.

�I�m hearing a lot, but I�m not going to speak to it right now,� Biden said.
�There�s an overwhelming desire on the part of the region to � let me back
up. I cannot prove what I�m about to say, but I believe one of the reasons
why Hamas struck when they did was they knew that I was working very closely
with the Saudis and others in the region to bring peace to the region by
having recognition of Israel and Israel�s right to exist.�

�You may recall when we did the G-20 a little while ago, I was able to get a
resolution � a statement passed through there saying we�re going to build a
railroad from Riyadh all the way through the Middle East into Saudi Arabia,
Israel, et cetera, and all the way up to Europe, not the railroad, but it
would be an underground pipeline and then railroad,� he continued. �The whole
idea is there�s overwhelming interest and I think most Arab nations know in
coordinating with one another to change the dynamic in their region for a
longer term peace. And that is what I�m going to continue to work on.�

WATCH:

Biden: �I cannot prove what I�m about to say,� but Hamas
attacked Israel because I was very close to bringing peace to the
region. pic.twitter.com/m8IfJvlivL

� Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) November 24, 2023

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X-Subject: Christie blames Trump for national explosion of anti-Semitism
 by: Ubiquitous - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 09:30 UTC

Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie is a one-issue man with the
only variation of his platform being the specific line of attack on former
President Donald J. Trump, this time over the explosion of anti-Semitism in
Joe Biden's America.

The blustery former New Jersey governor appeared on CNN, his Sunday morning
pulpit, to bellyache about Trump whom he accused of being responsible for
fomenting of anti-Semitic hate and to a lesser degree, the Islamophobia that
the Biden regime insists is practically everywhere at a time when Jews are
being targeted as never before in the U.S.

Speaking with anchor Dana Bash on "State of the Union," Christie was asked
about his previous remarks to the New York Times suggesting that the GOP
frontrunner bore much responsibility for the current climate.

https://air.tv/?v=34yd1YlSQQuv53GmauYnOg

"Governor, I want to ask about the spike in hate against Jews in the United
States. You told The New York Times that you believe former President Donald
Trump's quote 'intolerance for everybody has contributed to this surge in
anti-Semitism and Islamophobia, how so?" Bash asked.

"Well look, when you show intolerance towards everyone, which is what he
does, you give permission as a leader for others to have their intolerance
come out. Intolerance towards anyone encourages intolerance towards everyone,
that's exactly what's going on here," Christie responded.

"And That's been going on for some time, not just with Donald Trump, but with
university professors on some of our most elite campuses in this country,
with university administrators and presidents who have been unwilling to
stand up against antisemitism on their campuses, most particularly," he said,
equating the former president with Jew-hating leftist academics.

"There should be no campus in this country where a Jewish student is afraid
to leave their dorm, a Jewish student is afraid go to their classes, a Jewish
student is afraid to go to have a meal in the dining hall. That is
outrageous, and it's wrong," he correctly said, also noting the pro-Hamas
climate cultists who disrupted the annual Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade with
their gory performative antics.

"In the end, look, I think that there have been a lot of people who
contributed to it. I believe Donald Trump's intolerant language and conduct
gives others permission to act the same," he said, unfairly blaming Trump for
something that he has nothing to do with.

Rather than point the finger of blame where it belongs, squarely on the
Democratic party and it's "Squad" of yappy anti-Semites, the media, left-wing
colleges and Jew-hating activists, Christie just couldn't pass up gaslighting
the public - again.

Christie also shot down the suggestion that he could hang it up if he
performs poorly in New Hampshire, telling Bash that he's going all the way
next summer's Republican National Convention at the Fiserv Forum in
Milwaukee, WI, the same building where he was nearly booed off the stage at
the first GOP primary debate.

"I expect to be in this race through to the convention, Dana. And so yes,
absolutely," he said.

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X-Subject: Kamala Harris' Husband Deletes Post After Getting Mocked For Not Understanding Hanukkah Story
 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:16 UTC

Vice President Kamala Harris� husband, Doug Emhoff, deleted a post on social
media Monday night after facing mockery over getting the story of Hanukkah
wrong.

�In the Hanukkah story, the Jewish people were forced into hiding,� Emhoff
claimed in the now-deleted post on X. �No one thought they would survive or
that the few drops of oil they had would last. But they survived and the oil
kept burning. During those eight days in hiding, they recited their prayers
and continued their traditions.�

�That�s why Hanukkah means dedication,� he continued. �It was during those
dark nights that the Maccabees dedicated themselves to maintaining hope and
faith in the oil, each other, and their Judaism. In these dark times, I think
of that story.�

Emhoff�s retelling of Hanukkah was false.

The true story of Hanukkah involves a small group of Jewish warriors called
the Maccabees, led by Judah Maccabee, who revolted against the Seleucid
Empire ruled by Antiochus IV. Antiochus had banned Jews from practicing their
faith and had desecrated the Second Temple in Jerusalem.

The Maccabees won and rededicated the temple. During the rededication of the
temple, there was only enough consecrated olive oil to keep the menorah in
the Temple lit for one day. However, miraculously, the oil burned for eight
days and more oil was later secured. This is why Hanukkah is celebrated for
eight days and eight nights.

�I know you�re trying but the story of Chanukah is important and should be
recounted accurately,� said former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman.
�This isn�t close.�

�The rewriting of Hanukkah as a story of Jews hiding rather than Jews
fighting against assimilation is absurd, but also very revealing about the
attitude of the left,� National Review editor Philip Klein responded.

Other notable responses to Emhoff�s false retelling of Hanukkah included:

Doug Emhoff apparently thinks the Macabees were hiding out in some
sort of subterranean lair with an oil lamp.

This is emphatically not the story of Hanukkah.

Reconsecration of the Temple and recommitment to biblical values
and teachings is the story of Hanukkah. https://t.co/ERZAWFN9GG
� Will Scharf (@willscharf) December 12, 2023

No, jerkoff, Hanukkah isn�t about Jews HIDING; it�s about Jews
FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND. https://t.co/k5NO5fuxCW
� David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense (@davereaboi)
December 12, 2023

Oh. My. God. And there�s no one even minimally literate enough in
the East Wing to have corrected this. This is like Lucy explaining
fir trees to Linus and saying they give fur for coats. Only Lucy
is 5 years old. https://t.co/T5GuGVoWAf
� John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) December 12, 2023

This is totally wrong.

Stick to your wife making up Kwanza stories from her childhood�
https://t.co/scxavvqnWd
� Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) December 12, 2023

In fact, whole point of Hanukkah is that Jews refused to hide. It's
about Jews fighting, against overwhelming odds, for the right to
exist in what is modern-day Israel. The oil miraculously lasted for 8
nights after the victory, during the rededication of the 2nd temple.
� AG (@AGHamilton29) December 12, 2023

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 by: anim8rfsk - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:24 UTC

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> Vice President Kamala Harris’ husband, Doug Emhoff, deleted a post on social
> media Monday night after facing mockery over getting the story of Hanukkah
> wrong.
>
> “In the Hanukkah story, the Jewish people were forced into hiding,” Emhoff
> claimed in the now-deleted post on X. “No one thought they would survive or
> that the few drops of oil they had would last. But they survived and the oil
> kept burning. During those eight days in hiding, they recited their prayers
> and continued their traditions.”
>
> “That’s why Hanukkah means dedication,” he continued. “It was during those
> dark nights that the Maccabees dedicated themselves to maintaining hope and
> faith in the oil, each other, and their Judaism. In these dark times, I think
> of that story.”
>
> Emhoff’s retelling of Hanukkah was false.
>
> The true story of Hanukkah involves a small group of Jewish warriors called
> the Maccabees, led by Judah Maccabee, who revolted against the Seleucid
> Empire ruled by Antiochus IV. Antiochus had banned Jews from practicing their
> faith and had desecrated the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
>
> The Maccabees won and rededicated the temple. During the rededication of the
> temple, there was only enough consecrated olive oil to keep the menorah in
> the Temple lit for one day. However, miraculously, the oil burned for eight
> days and more oil was later secured. This is why Hanukkah is celebrated for
> eight days and eight nights.
>
> “I know you’re trying but the story of Chanukah is important and should be
> recounted accurately,” said former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman.
> “This isn’t close.”
>
> “The rewriting of Hanukkah as a story of Jews hiding rather than Jews
> fighting against assimilation is absurd, but also very revealing about the
> attitude of the left,” National Review editor Philip Klein responded.
>
> Other notable responses to Emhoff’s false retelling of Hanukkah included:
>
> Doug Emhoff apparently thinks the Macabees were hiding out in some
> sort of subterranean lair with an oil lamp.
>
> This is emphatically not the story of Hanukkah.
>
> Reconsecration of the Temple and recommitment to biblical values
> and teachings is the story of Hanukkah. https://t.co/ERZAWFN9GG
> — Will Scharf (@willscharf) December 12, 2023
>
> No, jerkoff, Hanukkah isn’t about Jews HIDING; it’s about Jews
> FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND. https://t.co/k5NO5fuxCW
> — David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense (@davereaboi)
> December 12, 2023
>
> Oh. My. God. And there’s no one even minimally literate enough in
> the East Wing to have corrected this. This is like Lucy explaining
> fir trees to Linus and saying they give fur for coats. Only Lucy
> is 5 years old. https://t.co/T5GuGVoWAf
> — John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) December 12, 2023
>
> This is totally wrong.
>
> Stick to your wife making up Kwanza stories from her childhood…
> https://t.co/scxavvqnWd
> — Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) December 12, 2023
>
> In fact, whole point of Hanukkah is that Jews refused to hide. It's
> about Jews fighting, against overwhelming odds, for the right to
> exist in what is modern-day Israel. The oil miraculously lasted for 8
> nights after the victory, during the rededication of the 2nd temple.
> — AG (@AGHamilton29) December 12, 2023
>

Lucy is older than five. Not only is she in grade school, her younger
brother is in grade school.

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 by: Rhino - Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:51 UTC

On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:16:18 -0500
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> Vice President Kamala Harris’ husband, Doug Emhoff, deleted a post on
> social media Monday night after facing mockery over getting the story
> of Hanukkah wrong.
>
> “In the Hanukkah story, the Jewish people were forced into hiding,”
> Emhoff claimed in the now-deleted post on X. “No one thought they
> would survive or that the few drops of oil they had would last. But
> they survived and the oil kept burning. During those eight days in
> hiding, they recited their prayers and continued their traditions.”
>
> “That’s why Hanukkah means dedication,” he continued. “It was during
> those dark nights that the Maccabees dedicated themselves to
> maintaining hope and faith in the oil, each other, and their Judaism.
> In these dark times, I think of that story.”
>
> Emhoff’s retelling of Hanukkah was false.
>
> The true story of Hanukkah involves a small group of Jewish warriors
> called the Maccabees, led by Judah Maccabee, who revolted against the
> Seleucid Empire ruled by Antiochus IV. Antiochus had banned Jews from
> practicing their faith and had desecrated the Second Temple in
> Jerusalem.
>
> The Maccabees won and rededicated the temple. During the rededication
> of the temple, there was only enough consecrated olive oil to keep
> the menorah in the Temple lit for one day. However, miraculously, the
> oil burned for eight days and more oil was later secured. This is why
> Hanukkah is celebrated for eight days and eight nights.
>
> “I know you’re trying but the story of Chanukah is important and
> should be recounted accurately,” said former U.S. Ambassador to
> Israel David Friedman. “This isn’t close.”
>
> “The rewriting of Hanukkah as a story of Jews hiding rather than Jews
> fighting against assimilation is absurd, but also very revealing
> about the attitude of the left,” National Review editor Philip Klein
> responded.
>
> Other notable responses to Emhoff’s false retelling of Hanukkah
> included:
>
> Doug Emhoff apparently thinks the Macabees were hiding out in
> some sort of subterranean lair with an oil lamp.
>
> This is emphatically not the story of Hanukkah.
>
> Reconsecration of the Temple and recommitment to biblical
> values and teachings is the story of Hanukkah. https://t.co/ERZAWFN9GG
> — Will Scharf (@willscharf) December 12, 2023
>
> No, jerkoff, Hanukkah isn’t about Jews HIDING; it’s about
> Jews FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND. https://t.co/k5NO5fuxCW
> — David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense (@davereaboi)
> December 12, 2023
>
> Oh. My. God. And there’s no one even minimally literate
> enough in the East Wing to have corrected this. This is like Lucy
> explaining fir trees to Linus and saying they give fur for coats.
> Only Lucy is 5 years old. https://t.co/T5GuGVoWAf
> — John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) December 12, 2023
>
> This is totally wrong.
>
> Stick to your wife making up Kwanza stories from her
> childhood… https://t.co/scxavvqnWd
> — Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) December 12, 2023
>
> In fact, whole point of Hanukkah is that Jews refused to
> hide. It's about Jews fighting, against overwhelming odds, for the
> right to exist in what is modern-day Israel. The oil miraculously
> lasted for 8 nights after the victory, during the rededication of the
> 2nd temple. — AG (@AGHamilton29) December 12, 2023
>

Technically, Doug Emhoff isn't actually in government himself although
his wife certainly is.

I wonder if Emhoff has gotten confused about his own religion after listening to
his wife's questionable takes on Jewish tradition? This two year old
video by Ben Shapiro contains his commentary on a video that Harris and
Emhoff did about Hannukah back then. Shapiro explains very clearly just
how wrong her understanding of the holiday is while Emhoff mostly just
smiles supportively rather than correcting her. Emhoff either doesn't
know the truth or is biting his tongue to avoid upstaging her.

--
Rhino

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 by: Ubiquitous - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:30 UTC

In article <1895834307.724108968.149591.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>, anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>> Vice President Kamala Harris� husband, Doug Emhoff, deleted a post on social
>> media Monday night after facing mockery over getting the story of Hanukkah
>> wrong.
>>
>> �In the Hanukkah story, the Jewish people were forced into hiding,� Emhoff
>> claimed in the now-deleted post on X. �No one thought they would survive or
>> that the few drops of oil they had would last. But they survived and the oil
>> kept burning. During those eight days in hiding, they recited their prayers
>> and continued their traditions.�
>>
>> �That�s why Hanukkah means dedication,� he continued. �It was during those
>> dark nights that the Maccabees dedicated themselves to maintaining hope and
>> faith in the oil, each other, and their Judaism. In these dark times, I think
>> of that story.�
>>
>> Emhoff�s retelling of Hanukkah was false.
>>
>> The true story of Hanukkah involves a small group of Jewish warriors called
>> the Maccabees, led by Judah Maccabee, who revolted against the Seleucid
>> Empire ruled by Antiochus IV. Antiochus had banned Jews from practicing their
>> faith and had desecrated the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
>>
>> The Maccabees won and rededicated the temple. During the rededication of the
>> temple, there was only enough consecrated olive oil to keep the menorah in
>> the Temple lit for one day. However, miraculously, the oil burned for eight
>> days and more oil was later secured. This is why Hanukkah is celebrated for
>> eight days and eight nights.
>>
>> �I know you�re trying but the story of Chanukah is important and should be
>> recounted accurately,� said former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman.
>> �This isn�t close.�
>>
>> �The rewriting of Hanukkah as a story of Jews hiding rather than Jews
>> fighting against assimilation is absurd, but also very revealing about the
>> attitude of the left,� National Review editor Philip Klein responded.
>>
>> Other notable responses to Emhoff�s false retelling of Hanukkah included:
>>
>> Doug Emhoff apparently thinks the Macabees were hiding out in some
>> sort of subterranean lair with an oil lamp.
>>
>> This is emphatically not the story of Hanukkah.
>>
>> Reconsecration of the Temple and recommitment to biblical values
>> and teachings is the story of Hanukkah. https://t.co/ERZAWFN9GG
>> � Will Scharf (@willscharf) December 12, 2023
>>
>> No, jerkoff, Hanukkah isn�t about Jews HIDING; it�s about Jews
>> FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND. https://t.co/k5NO5fuxCW
>> � David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense (@davereaboi)
>> December 12, 2023
>>
>> Oh. My. God. And there�s no one even minimally literate enough in
>> the East Wing to have corrected this. This is like Lucy explaining
>> fir trees to Linus and saying they give fur for coats. Only Lucy
>> is 5 years old. https://t.co/T5GuGVoWAf
>> � John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) December 12, 2023
>
>Lucy is older than five. Not only is she in grade school, her younger
>brother is in grade school.

I thought they all were in grade school.

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 by: Ubiquitous - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:30 UTC

no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>> Vice President Kamala Harris’ husband, Doug Emhoff, deleted a post on
>> social media Monday night after facing mockery over getting the story
>> of Hanukkah wrong.
>>
>> “In the Hanukkah story, the Jewish people were forced into hiding,”
>> Emhoff claimed in the now-deleted post on X. “No one thought they
>> would survive or that the few drops of oil they had would last. But
>> they survived and the oil kept burning. During those eight days in
>> hiding, they recited their prayers and continued their traditions.”
>>
>> “That’s why Hanukkah means dedication,” he continued. “It was during
>> those dark nights that the Maccabees dedicated themselves to
>> maintaining hope and faith in the oil, each other, and their Judaism.
>> In these dark times, I think of that story.”
>>
>> Emhoff’s retelling of Hanukkah was false.
>>
>> The true story of Hanukkah involves a small group of Jewish warriors
>> called the Maccabees, led by Judah Maccabee, who revolted against the
>> Seleucid Empire ruled by Antiochus IV. Antiochus had banned Jews from
>> practicing their faith and had desecrated the Second Temple in
>> Jerusalem.
>>
>> The Maccabees won and rededicated the temple. During the rededication
>> of the temple, there was only enough consecrated olive oil to keep
>> the menorah in the Temple lit for one day. However, miraculously, the
>> oil burned for eight days and more oil was later secured. This is why
>> Hanukkah is celebrated for eight days and eight nights.
>>
>> “I know you’re trying but the story of Chanukah is important and
>> should be recounted accurately,” said former U.S. Ambassador to
>> Israel David Friedman. “This isn’t close.”
>>
>> “The rewriting of Hanukkah as a story of Jews hiding rather than Jews
>> fighting against assimilation is absurd, but also very revealing
>> about the attitude of the left,” National Review editor Philip Klein
>> responded.
>>
>> Other notable responses to Emhoff’s false retelling of Hanukkah
>> included:
>>
>> Doug Emhoff apparently thinks the Macabees were hiding out in
>> some sort of subterranean lair with an oil lamp.
>>
>> This is emphatically not the story of Hanukkah.
>>
>> Reconsecration of the Temple and recommitment to biblical
>> values and teachings is the story of Hanukkah. https://t.co/ERZAWFN9GG
>> — Will Scharf (@willscharf) December 12, 2023
>>
>> No, jerkoff, Hanukkah isn’t about Jews HIDING; it’s about
>> Jews FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND. https://t.co/k5NO5fuxCW
>> — David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense (@davereaboi)
>> December 12, 2023
>>
>> Oh. My. God. And there’s no one even minimally literate
>> enough in the East Wing to have corrected this. This is like Lucy
>> explaining fir trees to Linus and saying they give fur for coats.
>> Only Lucy is 5 years old. https://t.co/T5GuGVoWAf
>> — John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) December 12, 2023
>>
>> This is totally wrong.
>>
>> Stick to your wife making up Kwanza stories from her
>> childhood… https://t.co/scxavvqnWd
>> — Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) December 12, 2023
>>
>> In fact, whole point of Hanukkah is that Jews refused to
>> hide. It's about Jews fighting, against overwhelming odds, for the
>> right to exist in what is modern-day Israel. The oil miraculously
>> lasted for 8 nights after the victory, during the rededication of the
>> 2nd temple. — AG (@AGHamilton29) December 12, 2023
>>
>
>Technically, Doug Emhoff isn't actually in government himself although
>his wife certainly is.

He wouldn't be there if the election hadn't been stolen.

>I wonder if Emhoff has gotten confused about his own religion after
>listening to his wife's questionable takes on Jewish tradition? This two
>year old video by Ben Shapiro contains his commentary on a video that Harris
>and Emhoff did about Hannukah back then. Shapiro explains very clearly just
>how wrong her understanding of the holiday is while Emhoff mostly just
>smiles supportively rather than correcting her. Emhoff either doesn't
>know the truth or is biting his tongue to avoid upstaging her.

Heh.

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In article <ulpek3$3ganr$3@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:

> >Technically, Doug Emhoff isn't actually in government himself although
> >his wife certainly is.
>
> He wouldn't be there if the election hadn't been stolen.

Waaaah waaaah waaaaah

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 by: Ubiquitous - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 09:30 UTC

Citing three anonymous officials in Tel Aviv, Politico reports that US
President Joe Biden�s administration has told Israel it has until the end of
2023 to conclude the war in Gaza against Hamas.

The US news outlet notes Secretary of State Antony Blinken�s reported warning
last week that Israel likely has �weeks� to wrap up the fighting, but also
highlights comments yesterday by Deputy National Security Adviser Jon Finer
that Washington has not given a �firm deadline� to Jerusalem.

A senior Israeli official appears to brush off the prospect of a US deadline.

�They advised us not to go into Gaza, but we did,� the official tells
Politico. �We went into Gaza because that was the only way we could destroy
Hamas and free our hostages. They told us, don�t go into the terror tunnels.
But if we don�t go into the terror tunnels, there�s no way we can destroy
Hamas. They told us not to go into the hospitals despite them being used by
Hamas as command and control centers, but we went into those hospitals, and
we did what we needed to do.�

�And we�ll do what we need to do to reach decisive victory,� the official
adds.

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revolutionary war as we didn't have enough airports."
-- Joe Biden

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 by: Your Name - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:35 UTC

More proof of the stupidty of governments.

The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
and on-going limited plan.

A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
(I've never owned or needed one).

B. There are far cheaper basic smartphones (or even dumbphones) they
could give out, and even cheaper would be a landline phone.

C. Some of these people who qualify will simply on-sell the iPhone
to someone else.

D. Like all governments, they keep claiming to not have enough money
for the actual essential services, yet waste money on idiocy like
this.

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 by: shawn - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 23:22 UTC

On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 10:35:32 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

>
>More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>
>The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>and on-going limited plan.
>
>A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
> (I've never owned or needed one).
>
>B. There are far cheaper basic smartphones (or even dumbphones) they
> could give out, and even cheaper would be a landline phone.
>
>C. Some of these people who qualify will simply on-sell the iPhone
> to someone else.
>
>D. Like all governments, they keep claiming to not have enough money
> for the actual essential services, yet waste money on idiocy like
> this.
>

But if they didn't give out the smart phones they couldn't easily
track the people and couldn't help push forward the agenda to move
everyone to a digital cash economy.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Sun, 24 Dec 2023 23:42 UTC

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>
> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
> and on-going limited plan.
>
> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
> (I've never owned or needed one).

It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
them your cell phone number.

>
> B. There are far cheaper basic smartphones (or even dumbphones) they
> could give out, and even cheaper would be a landline phone.
>
> C. Some of these people who qualify will simply on-sell the iPhone
> to someone else.
>
> D. Like all governments, they keep claiming to not have enough money
> for the actual essential services, yet waste money on idiocy like
> this.
>
>
>

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On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>
>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>> and on-going limited plan.
>>
>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>
>It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>them your cell phone number.

Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
account in order to chat.

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 by: Your Name - Mon, 25 Dec 2023 02:38 UTC

On 2023-12-25 02:28:45 +0000, shawn said:
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>
>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>
>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>
>> It'€™s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>> them your cell phone number.
>
> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
> account in order to chat.

I've come across a couple of survey websites (where you're paid to do
surveys) that have suddenly decided to require one for two-factor
authentication ... why such a site bothers with that is a complete
mystery, likely some silly new locla law!

Other than that, there have been the occasional competition that
insists on a mobile phone number and rejects landlines (probably so
they can spam you with text messages). I usually just enter the fake
number 0210000000 and they accept that.

I don't use online banking or anything like that which would actually
benefit from the extra safety of two-factor authentication.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 25 Dec 2023 05:21 UTC

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>
>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>
>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>
>> It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>> them your cell phone number.
>
> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
> account in order to chat.
>

I hit it all the time. Google canceled my YouTube account because I
wouldn’t give them my cell phone number.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 25 Dec 2023 05:21 UTC

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-25 02:28:45 +0000, shawn said:
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>>
>>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>>
>>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>>
>>> It'€™s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>>> them your cell phone number.
>>
>> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
>> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
>> account in order to chat.
>
> I've come across a couple of survey websites (where you're paid to do
> surveys) that have suddenly decided to require one for two-factor
> authentication ... why such a site bothers with that is a complete
> mystery, likely some silly new locla law!
>
> Other than that, there have been the occasional competition that
> insists on a mobile phone number and rejects landlines (probably so
> they can spam you with text messages). I usually just enter the fake
> number 0210000000 and they accept that.
>
> I don't use online banking or anything like that which would actually
> benefit from the extra safety of two-factor authentication.
>

Everything that requires two factor authorization is something that
shouldn’t require two factor authorization like Cox email.

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On 12/24/2023 9:21 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>>
>>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>>
>>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>>
>>> It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>>> them your cell phone number.
>>
>> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
>> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
>> account in order to chat.
>>
>
> I hit it all the time. Google canceled my YouTube account because I
> wouldn’t give them my cell phone number.
>
Give 'em a fake one.

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 by: Your Name - Tue, 26 Dec 2023 00:24 UTC

On 2023-12-25 02:28:45 +0000, shawn said:
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>
>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>
>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>
>> It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>> them your cell phone number.
>
> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
> account in order to chat.

There are even more idiotic systems. One survey website has recently
changed the rules and now requires verification by going to some
dubious third-party website where you have to upload a picture of
yourself holding some form of photo ID drivers' license, passport,
etc. :-\

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 by: shawn - Tue, 26 Dec 2023 00:45 UTC

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 13:24:16 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

>On 2023-12-25 02:28:45 +0000, shawn said:
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>>
>>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>>
>>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>>
>>> It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>>> them your cell phone number.
>>
>> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
>> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
>> account in order to chat.
>
>There are even more idiotic systems. One survey website has recently
>changed the rules and now requires verification by going to some
>dubious third-party website where you have to upload a picture of
>yourself holding some form of photo ID drivers' license, passport,
>etc. :-\

That's not going to happen unless I made up a fake DL/Passport etc.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Tue, 26 Dec 2023 02:49 UTC

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 13:24:16 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-12-25 02:28:45 +0000, shawn said:
>>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>>>
>>>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>>>
>>>> It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>>>> them your cell phone number.
>>>
>>> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
>>> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
>>> account in order to chat.
>>
>> There are even more idiotic systems. One survey website has recently
>> changed the rules and now requires verification by going to some
>> dubious third-party website where you have to upload a picture of
>> yourself holding some form of photo ID drivers' license, passport,
>> etc. :-\
>
> That's not going to happen unless I made up a fake DL/Passport etc.
>

Yeah, I’ve heard of that. Hasn’t happened to me yet. But I sure as hell I’m
not showing my drivers license to the camera. Hell, I won’t even have a
drivers license in a couple weeks.

--
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 by: shawn - Tue, 26 Dec 2023 03:28 UTC

On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 19:49:06 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 13:24:16 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-12-25 02:28:45 +0000, shawn said:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>>>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>>>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>>>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>>>>> them your cell phone number.
>>>>
>>>> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
>>>> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
>>>> account in order to chat.
>>>
>>> There are even more idiotic systems. One survey website has recently
>>> changed the rules and now requires verification by going to some
>>> dubious third-party website where you have to upload a picture of
>>> yourself holding some form of photo ID drivers' license, passport,
>>> etc. :-\
>>
>> That's not going to happen unless I made up a fake DL/Passport etc.
>>
>
>Yeah, I’ve heard of that. Hasn’t happened to me yet. But I sure as hell I’m
>not showing my drivers license to the camera. Hell, I won’t even have a
>drivers license in a couple weeks.

Can't you renew by mail or do you have to take a test to renew your
license? Here , before the Real ID nonsense and after it, you can
renew by mail without taking any tests. At least up until age 64 or
older which is when they start requiring an in-person vision screening
each renewal period. You can even renew an expired license easily if
it only expired less than 2 years ago. Otherwise you have to take all
the tests again.

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 by: Your Name - Tue, 26 Dec 2023 04:25 UTC

On 2023-12-26 02:49:06 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 13:24:16 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-25 02:28:45 +0000, shawn said:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>>>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>>>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>>>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>>>>> them your cell phone number.
>>>>
>>>> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
>>>> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
>>>> account in order to chat.
>>>
>>> There are even more idiotic systems. One survey website has recently
>>> changed the rules and now requires verification by going to some
>>> dubious third-party website where you have to upload a picture of
>>> yourself holding some form of photo ID drivers' license, passport,
>>> etc. :-\
>>
>> That's not going to happen unless I made up a fake DL/Passport etc.
>
> Yeah, I’ve heard of that. Hasn’t happened to me yet. But I sure as hell I’m
> not showing my drivers license to the camera. Hell, I won’t even have a
> drivers license in a couple weeks.

It gets even sillier. When I visited the verification site to see what
it was about, it lists some of the places that it is used by. One of
them was a well-known forum board (may have been Reddit, I can't
remember now), but when you read the comments on the forum itself, you
see lots of people complaining about how useless it is and that it
doesn't even work properly. :-\

Re: Some of the stupid people you can have in govt.

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On 2023-12-26 04:25:14 +0000, Your Name said:

> On 2023-12-26 02:49:06 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 13:24:16 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-12-25 02:28:45 +0000, shawn said:
>>>>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:42:14 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More proof of the stupidty of governments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The US government believes having a cellphone is a "necessity", so if
>>>>>>> you're poor enough to qualify, they'll give you a free Apple iPhone 13
>>>>>>> and on-going limited plan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A. A cellphone is *NOT* a necessity by any stretch of the imagination
>>>>>>> (I've never owned or needed one).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s getting there though as more and more services require you to give
>>>>>> them your cell phone number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only one I know of is Twitch. It requires you to have a cell phone if
>>>>> you want to verify your account. Some channels require a verified
>>>>> account in order to chat.
>>>>
>>>> There are even more idiotic systems. One survey website has recently
>>>> changed the rules and now requires verification by going to some
>>>> dubious third-party website where you have to upload a picture of
>>>> yourself holding some form of photo ID drivers' license, passport,
>>>> etc. :-\
>>>
>>> That's not going to happen unless I made up a fake DL/Passport etc.
>>
>> Yeah, I’ve heard of that. Hasn’t happened to me yet. But I sure as hell I’m
>> not showing my drivers license to the camera. Hell, I won’t even have a
>> drivers license in a couple weeks.
>
> It gets even sillier. When I visited the verification site to see what
> it was about, it lists some of the places that it is used by. One of
> them was a well-known forum board (may have been Reddit, I can't
> remember now), but when you read the comments on the forum itself, you
> see lots of people complaining about how useless it is and that it
> doesn't even work properly. :-\

I remembered incorrectly. It wasn't Reddit, it was Trustpilot ... the
website that is supposed to help you to know how trustworthy websites
are. They're own reviewers gave the verification site a score of only
1.4 stars out of 5, with 80% of the reviews giving it only 1 star.
<https://trustpilot.com/review/veriff.com>

The Veriff verifcation business is also based in Estonia, so yet
another red flag telling any sane person to avoid using it and never
upload any personal details there.

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