Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> On 16 Dec 2023, Wlll Dockery @news.novabbs.com (W.Dockery) posted some
> news:035f9fc3b354e97bf371d863d0b4f837@news.novabbs.com:

>> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 Dec 2023, Peter J Ross <pjr@example.invalid> posted some
>>> news:ku6icgFl18aU2@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>>> [AHM added]
>>>>
>>>> On 16/12/2023 18:25, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>>> W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I
>>>>>> can tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of
>>>>>> a.a.p.c. is over to Nova BBS:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>>>>
>>>> I've already port-scanned it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in the welfare of the site in a friendly way, you
>>>> understand.
>>>>
>>>> It's a nice site, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> It would be a shame if something happened to it.
>>
>>> Not that you'd be capable of doing anything to influence it.
>>
>> Don't ruin PJR's fantasy.

> Wait until he finds the puppy in his stocking. I scraped it up after a
> car ran over it.

Oh Lordy..

"Tear in his eye."

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
>>
>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
>> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr.. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>>
>> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>
>> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>
>> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>
>> *************************************************************************
>>
>> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>
>> What’s changing?
>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>
>> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>
>> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>
>> What do I need to do?
>> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>
>> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>
>> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

> Yes, for me, it basically means Nova BBS will be the top spot for Usenet posting and reading:

> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments

> And so it goes.

Ash seems to be thinking Google groups will continue alt.arts.poetry.comments as the name of the group, but with no input from Usenet.... odd and interesting possibility...

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."

> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)

> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:

> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."

> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:

> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"

> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.

> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.

> *************************************************************************

> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.

> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.

> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.

> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.

> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:

> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.

> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.

> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

Well put GD...!!

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr.. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>
> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>
> *************************************************************************
>
> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>
> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>
> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>
> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>
> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>
> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

And again, as expected from NancyGene, *crickets*.

And so it goes.

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."

> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)

> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:

> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."

> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:

> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"

> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.

> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.

> *************************************************************************

> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.

> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.

> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.

> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.

> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:

> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.

> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.

> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

Well put... and a glimpse of how this post looks over at NOVA BBS...:

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244458&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244458

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 3:30:20 PM UTC-5, General-Zod wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> > "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>
> > That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>
> > That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>
> > "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>
> > The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>
> > "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> > have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> > on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> > google groups will be disallowed.)"
>
> > Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> > Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>
> > |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>
> > *************************************************************************
>
> > Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> > If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>
> > What’s changing?
> > Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>
> > In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>
> > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>
> > What do I need to do?
> > If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>
> > Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> > Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> > Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data.. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>
> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>
> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
> Well put... and a glimpse of how this post looks over at NOVA BBS...:
>
> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244458&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244458

Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.

;)

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 5:13:08 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 3:30:20 PM UTC-5, General-Zod wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> > > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> > > "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
> >
> > > That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
> >
> > > That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
> >
> > > "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
> >
> > > The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
> >
> > > "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> > > have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> > > on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> > > google groups will be disallowed.)"
> >
> > > Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> > > Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
> >
> > > |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
> >
> > > *************************************************************************
> >
> > > Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> > > If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
> >
> > > What’s changing?
> > > Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups..
> >
> > > In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
> >
> > > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
> >
> > > What do I need to do?
> > > If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
> >
> > > Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> > > Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> > > Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
> >
> > > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> > > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
> >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
> > Well put... and a glimpse of how this post looks over at NOVA BBS...:
> >
> > https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244458&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244458
> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.

Are you trying to tell us that Retro Guy is going to manage Usenet? Do you have a clue what Usenet is, or are you just a Usenet fool? Retro Guy's site is just one of many news servers that is Usenet.

Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 5:13:08 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 3:30:20 PM UTC-5, General-Zod wrote:
>> > George J. Dance wrote:
>> >
>> > > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> > > "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>> >
>> > > That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>> >
>> > > That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>> >
>> > > "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>> >
>> > > The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>> >
>> > > "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> > > have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> > > on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> > > google groups will be disallowed.)"
>> >
>> > > Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> > > Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>> >
>> > > |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>> >
>> > > *************************************************************************
>> >
>> > > Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> > > If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>> >
>> > > What’s changing?
>> > > Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups..
>> >
>> > > In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>> >
>> > > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>> >
>> > > What do I need to do?
>> > > If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>> >
>> > > Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> > > Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> > > Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>> >
>> > > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> > > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>> >
>> > > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> > Well put... and a glimpse of how this post looks over at NOVA BBS...:
>> >
>> > https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244458&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244458
>> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.

> Are you trying to tell us that Retro Guy is going to manage Usenet

No, Retro Guy manages Nova BBS, a Usenet web portal:

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244385&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244385

On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 12:43:58 PM UTC-5, MummyChunk wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > MummyChunk wrote:
> > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 20:35:00 +0000, will.d...@gmail.com (W.Dockery) wrote:
> > > > > RWC wrote:
>
> > > Good morning, MummyChunk, thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > The newsgroup alt.arts.poetry.comments has the largest number of
> posters, hopefully JLA Forums will add it soon, as as many as a dozen
> poetry posters will be looking for a new Usenet venue in February when
> Google Groups closes.
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > >
> > > Nova BBS is poised to become the top Usenet venue (in my opinion)
> but other options are always good to have:
> > >
> > >
> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > MummyChunk wrote:
> >
> > The admin team replied to me and said that they were going to add
> several of the poetry groups very soon
> Placeholder for some of the requested groups. They should be
> populated over the coming days. Please pass along for those who might
> be interested.
>
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=653
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=654
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=652
>
>

Outstanding!

(Moved fron another thread.)

On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.

Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
server, just as I used to do, and just as you never will.

In fact, you'll never do anything requiring even an elementary level of
competence, will you, Dreckwit?

--
PJR :-)

Peter J Ross wrote:

> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.

> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
> server, just as I used to do, and just as you never will.

> In fact, you'll never do anything requiring even an elementary level of
> competence

I managed to publish a book of poetry, which is more than you seem to have managed, PJR:

https://www.amazon.com/Selected-Poems-1976-2019-Will-Dockery/dp/0994860013

HTH and HAND.

Family Guy wrote:
> On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 7:35:14 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 Dec 2023, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> posted some
>>> news:ku6icg...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>>> [AHM added]
>>>>
>>>> On 16/12/2023 18:25, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>>> W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>>>>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>>>>>> over to Nova BBS:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>>>>
>>>> I've already port-scanned it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in the welfare of the site in a friendly way, you
>>>> understand.
>>>>
>>>> It's a nice site, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> It would be a shame if something happened to it.
>>
>>> Not that you'd be capable of doing anything to influence it.
>> Don't ruin PJR's fantasy.
>>
>>
> I see you still have no fucking clue about the definition of that word.
>
do you still have those pictures of your sisters tits dink?

Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 3:30:20 PM UTC-5, General-Zod wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
>>> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>>
>>> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>>> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>>> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>>> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>
>>> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>>> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>
>>> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>
>>> *************************************************************************
>>
>>> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>>> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>
>>> What’s changing?
>>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>
>>> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>
>>> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>
>>> What do I need to do?
>>> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>
>>> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>>> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>>> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>
>>> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>>> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>> Well put... and a glimpse of how this post looks over at NOVA BBS...:
>>
>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=244458&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#244458
>
> Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
>
> ;)
>
he will soon find himself de-peered

General-Zod wrote:
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>>> over to Nova BBS:
>>>
>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>
>>  >
>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>
> That's probably your upper lip you smell, bigot troll...
>
> "Tear in your eye."
>
says the pissbum that lives under a tarp

On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 4:47:33 AM UTC-5, % wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
> > Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
> >>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
> >>> over to Nova BBS:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
> >>>
> >> >
> >> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
> >
> > That's probably your upper lip you smell, bigot troll...
> >
> > "Tear in your eye."
> >
> says the pissbum that lives under a tarp

Zod is an outdoorsman, which is beyond the scope and abilities of a pansy like you.

W-Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 4:47:33 AM UTC-5, % wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>>>>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>>>>> over to Nova BBS:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>>>
>>> That's probably your upper lip you smell, bigot troll...
>>>
>>> "Tear in your eye."
>>>
>> says the pissbum that lives under a tarp
>
> Zod is an outdoorsman, which is beyond the scope and abilities of a pansy like you.
>
he's a destitute pissbum, just like you are, shitstain

On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
> server, just as I used to do,

yea whatever happened with that
is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else

Family Guy wrote:

> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
>> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
>> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
>> server, just as I used to do,

> yea whatever happened with that
> is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
> or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else

Whatever happened, it sure didn't seem to last long.

Fake W-Dockery forged:

> On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 4:47:33 AM UTC-5, % wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>> > Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> >
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> That's exactly what the announcement says, meaning, as far as I can
>> >>> tell, the easiest move from the Google Groups version of a.a.p.c. is
>> >>> over to Nova BBS:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thre.arts.poetry.comments
>> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> How can we get rid of that sewer next?
>> >
>> > That's probably your upper lip you smell, bigot troll...
>> >
>> > "Tear in your eye."
>> >
>> says the pissbum that lives under a tarp

> Zod is an outdoorsman, which is beyond the scope and abilities of a pansy like you.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Forgery and Identity theft noted ^^^^^

On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:

> I managed to publish a book of poetry

Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.

--
PJR :-)

On 2023-12-25, W.Dockery <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:
> Family Guy wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
>>> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
>>> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
>>> server, just as I used to do,
>
>> yea whatever happened with that
>> is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
>> or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else
>
> Whatever happened, it sure didn't seem to last long.

You used to whine endlesslessly about being excluded from it.

As far as I can remember after an interval of something like twenty
years, my users (who amounted to about ten or a dozen at most) agreed
with me that we'd all enjoyed the experience but it wasn't worth
continuing with it.

RetroGuy's posts in his internal forums suggest that he's beginning to
get bored, just as I did. And where will you run to then, Dreckwit?

--
PJR :-)

Peter J Ross <pjr@example.invalid> wrote in
news:slrnuomls0.2uq.pjr@nntp.pjross.me:

> On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I managed to publish a book of poetry
>
> Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.

Not fair, Ed used to call stores as someone else and ask them to order
the book. I believe he also had Marsha Kalfsbeek and a few other
F'losers like Little Brucie Kettler doing the same thing.

All Will had were a few imbecilic henchmorons and a daughter who was
forced to work at a bait store in Shitkicker, Alabama. As Dunce had
something to do with it, you can't count out the Canuckistan market.
I'll bet they sold one or two in the remainder queues.

--
"I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.

On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:00:59 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> On 2023-12-25, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Family Guy wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> >>> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
> >>> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
> >>> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
> >>> server, just as I used to do,
> >
> >> yea whatever happened with that
> >> is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
> >> or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else
> >
> > Whatever happened, it sure didn't seem to last long.
> You used to whine endlesslessly about being excluded from it.

Why do you lie so much, PJR?

As far as I remember, I never even mentioned it.

IOW: Post proof or shut the fuck up.

😃

> As far as I can remember after an interval of something like twenty
> years, my users (who amounted to about ten or a dozen at most) agreed
> with me that we'd all enjoyed the experience but it wasn't worth
> continuing with it.
>
> RetroGuy's posts in his internal forums suggest that he's beginning to
> get bored, just as I did. And where will you run to then, Dreckwit?
>
> --
> PJR :-)

On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:43:49 PM UTC-5, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrnuomls...@nntp.pjross.me:
> > On 2023-12-24, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I managed to publish a book of poetry
> >
> > Even Ed Wollmann has sold more copies of his books than you.
> Not fair, Ed used to call stores as someone else and ask them to order
> the book. I believe he also had Marsha Kalfsbeek and a few other
> F'losers like Little Brucie Kettler doing the same thing.

That's a very bullshit move.
How would he sell them, anyway?
Have his cronies go in and buy it for him?

>
> All Will had were a few imbecilic henchmorons and a daughter who was
> forced to work at a bait store in Shitkicker, Alabama. As Dunce had
> something to do with it, you can't count out the Canuckistan market.
> I'll bet they sold one or two in the remainder queues.
>
> --
> "I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
> poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."

> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)

> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:

> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."

> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:

> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"

> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.

> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.

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> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.

> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.

> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.

> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.

> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:

> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.

> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.

> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

Again, thanks for keeping the record straight.