George J. Dance wrote:

> Ash Wurthing wrote:

>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 3:30:08 PM UTC-5, Faraway Star wrote:
>>> George J. wrote:
>>> >
>>> > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>>> > "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>> >
>>> > That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>> >
>>> > That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>> >
>>> > "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>> >
>>> > The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>>> >
>>> > "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>>> > have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>>> > on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>>> > google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>> >
>>> > Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>>> > Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>> >
>>> > |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>> >
>>> > *************************************************************************
>>> >
>>> > Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>>> > If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>> >
>>> > What’s changing?
>>> > Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>> >
>>> > In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>> >
>>> > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>> >
>>> > What do I need to do?
>>> > If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>> >
>>> > Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>>> > Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>>> > Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data.. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>> >
>>> > Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>>> > Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>> >
>>> > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo
>>> Again THX for setting the record straight again GD...!

>> "Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly..."

>> Lo7

>> "because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums."

>> LOLin' -- won't be seeing you there!

>> "Is the Usenet Still Alive?" thread
>> 7 months ago
>> Surprised to see alt.arts.poetry.comments on this list. Yes it remains active, but the regular posters there[1] are for the most part the remnants who triggered the Great Poet Flight to various online (moderated) forum venues 20 years ago.

>> Some of those troll fights were fun. Some even involved poetry.
>> ~~ rikroots
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36158777

>> heh, heh, I aim to please...

> After 6 years trying to take over aapc, Team Monkey appears to have decided that the grapes are too sour.

Amazing, but possibly true.

:)

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 11:05:17 AM UTC-5, George J. wrote:
>
> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>
> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>
> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>
> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>
> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr.. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>
> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>
> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>
> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>
> *************************************************************************
>
> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>
> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>
> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>
> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>
> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>
> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>
> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

Yo

Yo keep the record straight.

Faraway Star wrote:

> George J. wrote:
>
>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>
>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>
>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>
>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>
>> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr.. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>>
>> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>
>> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>
>> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>
>> *************************************************************************
>>
>> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>
>> What’s changing?
>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>
>> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>
>> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>
>> What do I need to do?
>> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>
>> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>
>> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

> Yo

> Yo keep the record straight.

JLA Forums is looking like another good replacement for Google Groups, for posting to the poetry group:

http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

And so it goes.

Will Dockery wrote:

> Faraway Star wrote:

>> George J. wrote:
>>
>>> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
>>> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."
>>>
>>> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)
>>>
>>> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:
>>>
>>> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."
>>>
>>> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr.. Dalton, who explained the change this way:
>>>
>>> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
>>> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
>>> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
>>> google groups will be disallowed.)"
>>>
>>> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
>>> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.
>>>
>>> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.
>>>
>>> *************************************************************************
>>>
>>> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
>>> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.
>>>
>>> What’s changing?
>>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
>>>
>>> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
>>>
>>> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>>>
>>> What do I need to do?
>>> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:
>>>
>>> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
>>> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
>>> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.
>>>
>>> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
>>> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

>> Yo

>> Yo keep the record straight.

> JLA Forums is looking like another good replacement for Google Groups, for posting to the poetry group:

> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

> And so it goes.

And... Don't forget the great Nova BBS Express
..

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=alt.arts.poetry.comments

Enjoy...!

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:00:59 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> On 2023-12-25, W.Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Family Guy wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:18 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> >>> On 2023-12-19, Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Usenet will be in good hands with Retro Guy at the helm.
>> >>> Unlike you, RetroGuy can not only spell his own name but also knows
>> >>> perfectly well that nobody is at the helm of Usenet. He runs a news
>> >>> server, just as I used to do,
>> >
>> >> yea whatever happened with that
>> >> is it still thriving and encouraging bullshit behavior
>> >> or did you just shove it up your ass like you did with everything else
>> >
>> > Whatever happened, it sure didn't seem to last long.
>> You used to whine endlesslessly about being excluded from it.

> Why do you lie so much, PJR?

> As far as I remember, I never even mentioned it.

> IOW: Post proof or shut the fuck up.

> 😃

>> As far as I can remember after an interval of something like twenty
>> years, my users (who amounted to about ten or a dozen at most) agreed
>> with me that we'd all enjoyed the experience but it wasn't worth
>> continuing with it.
>>
>> RetroGuy's posts in his internal forums suggest that he's beginning to
>> get bored, just as I did. And where will you run to then, Dreckwit?
>>
>> --
>> PJR :-)

Good evening

On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 4:03:12 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> On 15/12/2023 16:04, George J. Dance wrote:
> > The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at
> > the top of the front page: "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups
> > will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will
> > be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear.
> > Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
> > is done today."
> <whinesnip>
>
> Woo hoo!
>
> Woo hoo!!
>
> Woo fucking hoo, with well-polished brass knobs on!!!
>
> Unlike all you pathetic subhuman plagiarists, paedophiles, stalkers,
> bums, drug-addicts and drunkards, who depend on the Internet for
> everything, I received the wonderful news by telephone yesterday, and
> today I'm here to celebrate.
>
> Woo hoo!
>
> Woo hoo!!
>
> Woo fucking hoo, and this is almost as good news as the death of a Dunce
> or a Dreckster!!!
>
>
> (Note: In case anybody's reading this who isn't a moron, I apologise for
> using Thunderbird for this post, and perhaps a few more posts. I'll be
> setting up slrn and vim as soon as I can, but I'm quite elderly
> nowadays, so it may take me a day or three.)
>
> --
> PJR :-)

And here we are on the final day....!

George J. Dance wrote:

> The big news today on the Google version of aapc is this announcement at the top of the front page:
> "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."

> That's the story. But what does it mean? (A rhetorical question; Google explains what it means; see below.)

> That's important to be clear on, since Team Monkey's news channel, NGBS, has already begun spreading their usual misinformation. NastyGoon, aapc's Jeopardy scholar, has been posting the Jeopardy Lie that it just means there will be "No "Eternal September" or "NovaBBS" postings after 2-15-24?" - and perhaps no hogwasher(?) either, since they gleefully addd that "David Dalton may also be SOL." Their cub reporter the Asstroll has explained that in a story of his own, based on nothing but assumption:

> "I would assume that posts posted to the Google version of the "Usenet" group, through it's web interface or via GMail to the Google group wouldn't be considered Usenet posts. It looks like Google is taking it's version of Usenet groups (with prior Usenet postings) and making it general Internet, not Usenet accessible."

> The only pushback so far has been from the man NastyGoon was trolling, Dr. Dalton, who explained the change this way:

> "Nancy, it means that you and other google groups users will
> have to switch to a newsreader accessing a newsserver
> on or before February 15. (Posting and subscribing via
> google groups will be disallowed.)"

> Dr. Dalton is right. Google will continue to maintain its usenet archive (something they committed to doing when they bought it from Deja News last century), but will no longer update them, or allow posting to them from Google. (This is explained in full in the archive below.) Contrary to the NGBS stories,
> Eternal September and NovaBBS posters will be able to continue to post to aapc (though their posts will not show up on Google), but Google Gropers will no.

> |So what can Team Monkey, with their dreams of turning aapc into the new "Algonqin Club", do? For now, they could open a new Google Group, and even name it "alt.arts.poetry.comments Official Group" (just as they've done on facebook). Or (as their Asstroll has been urging) they can do the same thing on reddit. But neither of those will be aapc. aapc, like Usenet, will continue though in a radically different form.

> *************************************************************************

> Google Groups ending support for Usenet
> If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these groups is ending soon.

> What’s changing?
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.

> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.

> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.

> What do I need to do?
> If you don’t actively engage with Usenet content, you don’t need to do anything. Current Usenet users will need to do two things before February 22, 2024 if they want to continue engaging with Usenet content:

> Find a new Usenet client. Several free and paid alternatives are available, both web-based and application-based. To find a client, do a web search for "how do I find a usenet text client"
> Find a new public Usenet server. The new client you choose will likely have a default server or a set of curated options for you. If not, to find a server, do a web search for "public NNTP servers."
> Because Usenet is a distributed system, you do not need to migrate data. All of the Usenet content you can access today on Google Groups should already be synced to the new server you choose. After you select a new client and server, you can reselect the groups you’re interested in.

> Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?
> Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does not support, as well as spam.

> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action/c/LMHjnnjcgjo

And almost all of the scum bag trolls are gone.