In article <s5JGFC.1z69@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <uksbrm$as0$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>In article <s5A64q.1Ixp@kithrup.com>,
>>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>>The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>>>>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>>In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>>>>>>> last year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>>>>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>>>>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>>>>come to us all, sooner or later!
>>>>>
>>>>>[Hal Heydt]
>>>>>I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>>A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>>>>Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>>>>fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>>>>
>>>>>When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>>>>Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>>>>surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>>>>Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>>>>Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>>>>that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>>>>issue.
>>>>
>>>>Languages and cultures come to mind.
>>>
>>>[Hal Heydt]
>>>More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>>>degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>>>English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>>
>>As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>
>Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>considered a "laungauge".
>
>And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>yes... ALGOL was one of them.

You are indeed ancient.

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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> >>
> > In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
> > Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which
> > then got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's
> > and I also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
>
> C onward should be the standard.

C'mon Dave, with the Doctor Who Christmas special a little over a week
away I'd have thought 'Ruby' would have been your programming language of
choice...

:-)

In article <xn0oai7jdxx95vz002@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> > In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>> > Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which
>> > then got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's
>> > and I also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
>>
>> C onward should be the standard.
>
>C'mon Dave, with the Doctor Who Christmas special a little over a week
>away I'd have thought 'Ruby' would have been your programming language of
>choice...
>
>:-)

What about a Python eat the goblins?
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 14:37:47 -0000 (UTC)
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:

> In article <20231212104801.d451d55dde40234adc0b1224@127.0.0.1>,
> Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
[]

but it would do us all a favour if the drwho chat was kept in the
> >correct NGs. TIA.
> >
>
> Nice!
>
>

fu to the 2 drwho groups only; I presume this numpty is one of yours?

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

In article <20231212213827.dd9745268ad913880f1043a6@127.0.0.1>,
Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 14:37:47 -0000 (UTC)
>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>
>> In article <20231212104801.d451d55dde40234adc0b1224@127.0.0.1>,
>> Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>[]
>
> but it would do us all a favour if the drwho chat was kept in the
>> >correct NGs. TIA.
>> >
>>
>> Nice!
>>
>>
>
>fu to the 2 drwho groups only; I presume this numpty is one of yours?
>

Numpty?

>--
>Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
> In article <uksbrm$as0$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <s5A64q.1Ixp@kithrup.com>,
>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>> In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At
>>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy passed
>>>>>>> last year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>>>> poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>>>> for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>>>> come to us all, sooner or later!
>>>>>
>>>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>>>> I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>>>> Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>>>> fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>>>>
>>>>> When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>>>> Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>>>> surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>>>> Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>>>> Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>>>> that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> Languages and cultures come to mind.
>>>
>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>> More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>>> degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>>
>> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
>
> [Hal Heydt]
> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>
> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
> considered a "laungauge".
>
> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>
In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
--
Daniel

On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:41:02 +1100
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
[Time for a snip]
> >>>
> >>> [Hal Heydt]
> >>> More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
> >>> degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
> >>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
> >>
> >> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
> >
> > [Hal Heydt]
> > I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
> > writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
> > meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
> > FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
> > Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
> > Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
> > IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
> > can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
> >
> > Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
> > considered a "laungauge".
> >
> > And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
> > languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
> > learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
> > yes... ALGOL was one of them.
> >
> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
> Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
> got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
> also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.

You both might profit from subscribing to news:alt.folklore.computers where
olden computing stuff is aired. And even modern stuff such as PCs
running DOS.

xpost left in, as I can't tell where Daniel65 is based, (I'm seeing this
in rasf) but it would do us all a favour if the drwho chat was kept in the
correct NGs. TIA.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

The Doctor wrote on 13/12/23 7:38 am:
> In article <xn0oai7jdxx95vz002@news.eternal-september.org>, Blueshirt
> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC,
>>>> Fortran and Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none'
>>>> i.e. 'Zero' which then got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80
>>>> or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I also taught basic/simple
>>>> programing on those CPU's.
>>>
>>> C onward should be the standard.
>>
>> C'mon Dave, with the Doctor Who Christmas special a little over a
>> week away I'd have thought 'Ruby' would have been your programming
>> language of choice...
>>
>> :-)
>
> What about a Python eat the goblins?
>
Could someone haul that 747, that just flew over the asswipe's head,
back so the asswipe can catch it!!

https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
--
Daniel

In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>> In article <uksbrm$as0$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <s5A64q.1Ixp@kithrup.com>,
>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <ukgdhd$18oj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
>>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>> In article <s524Fx.1B0G@kithrup.com>,
>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <uk4k3l$8qrp$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm:
>>>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity
>>>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from
>>>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is
>>>>>>>>>>> erased.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that
>>>>>>>>> question, Dorothy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That’s Dorothy’s husband Hal engaging, Daniel
>(hence the tag). At
>>>>>>>> least until Aggie’s absurdities exhaust his patience.
>Dorothy passed
>>>>>>>> last year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking
>>>>>>> poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry
>>>>>>> for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess that'll
>>>>>>> come to us all, sooner or later!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>>>>> I'm not upset about the mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple of bits of history... The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto
>>>>>> Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to
>>>>>> fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from
>>>>>> Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a
>>>>>> surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce
>>>>>> Jones. (Go figure.) Likewise, because of the same issue with
>>>>>> Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to
>>>>>> that of her husband, Creelman. She has since found...the same
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Languages and cultures come to mind.
>>>>
>>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>>> More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>>>> degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>>>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>>>
>>> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
>>
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>>
>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>> considered a "laungauge".
>>
>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>
>In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.

In article <20231212104801.d451d55dde40234adc0b1224@127.0.0.1>,
Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:41:02 +1100
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>[Time for a snip]
>> >>>
>> >>> [Hal Heydt]
>> >>> More about languages than you might suppose. Dorothy had a
>> >>> degree in Linguistics. Me...the only languages (other than
>> >>> English) that I can deal with are for programming computers.
>> >>
>> >> As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ...
>> >
>> > [Hal Heydt]
>> > I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>> > writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>> > meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>> > FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>> > Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>> > Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>> > IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>> > can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>> >
>> > Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>> > considered a "laungauge".
>> >
>> > And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>> > languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>> > learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>> > yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>> >
>> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>> Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>> got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>> also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
>
>You both might profit from subscribing to news:alt.folklore.computers where
>olden computing stuff is aired. And even modern stuff such as PCs
>running DOS.
>
>xpost left in, as I can't tell where Daniel65 is based, (I'm seeing this
>in rasf) but it would do us all a favour if the drwho chat was kept in the
>correct NGs. TIA.
>

Nice!

>
>--
>Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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In article <ulbm9h$2n3v$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 13/12/23 7:38 am:
>> In article <xn0oai7jdxx95vz002@news.eternal-september.org>, Blueshirt
>> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>> In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC,
>>>>> Fortran and Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none'
>>>>> i.e. 'Zero' which then got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80
>>>>> or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I also taught basic/simple
>>>>> programing on those CPU's.
>>>>
>>>> C onward should be the standard.
>>>
>>> C'mon Dave, with the Doctor Who Christmas special a little over a
>>> week away I'd have thought 'Ruby' would have been your programming
>>> language of choice...
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> What about a Python eat the goblins?
>>
>Could someone haul that 747, that just flew over the %'s head,
>back so the % can catch it!!
>
>https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
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In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>>
>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>> considered a "laungauge".
>>
>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>
>In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.

[Hal Heydt]
I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.

Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.

In article <s5qJIs.16J0@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>>> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>>> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>>> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>>> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>>> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>>> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>>> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>>>
>>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>>> considered a "laungauge".
>>>
>>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>>> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>>
>>In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>>Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>>got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>>also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
>languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.
>
>Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.

BCPL?
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Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 16/12/23 12:16 pm:
> In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>>> [Hal Heydt] I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot
>>> of years writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that
>>> aren't always meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I
>>> started with FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy
>>> transition). Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I
>>> knew FORTRAN. Also learned and/or used a number of assembly
>>> languages... SPS IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS.
>>> (Points to those that can identify the machines or operating
>>> system those apply to.)
>>>
>>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>>> considered a "laungauge".
>>>
>>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of.
>>> Ah, yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>>
>> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran
>> and Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero'
>> which then got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola
>> 6809 CPU's and I also taught basic/simple programing on those
>> CPU's.
>
> [Hal Heydt] I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
> languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.
>
> Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.
>
Gee Whiz!! Seems almost everyone I meet on UseNet these days is older
than me .... way older!!
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In article <uljtpj$2ce6u$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 16/12/23 12:16 pm:
>> In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>>>> [Hal Heydt] I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot
>>>> of years writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that
>>>> aren't always meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I
>>>> started with FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy
>>>> transition). Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I
>>>> knew FORTRAN. Also learned and/or used a number of assembly
>>>> languages... SPS IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS.
>>>> (Points to those that can identify the machines or operating
>>>> system those apply to.)
>>>>
>>>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>>>> considered a "laungauge".
>>>>
>>>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>>>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>>>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of.
>>>> Ah, yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>>>
>>> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran
>>> and Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero'
>>> which then got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola
>>> 6809 CPU's and I also taught basic/simple programing on those
>>> CPU's.
>>
>> [Hal Heydt] I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
>> languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.
>>
>> Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.
>>
>Gee Whiz!! Seems almost everyone I meet on UseNet these days is older
>than me .... way older!!
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Ha! Ha!!
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