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Re: The Lemonade Treatment

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"Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote in news:xn0ojegdu43f5hg002
@reader.xsnews.nl:

> Mickmane wrote:

>> You mean the clown outfit? I thought that was refreshing, or
>> at least funny. :)
>
> I don't think JNT saw it as a "clown outfit", I'm sure he had a
> deeper meaning in mind when he came up with the idea...

Wow, Doctor Who was so woke back then!

Were both Adric and the 6th Doctor Mary-Sue characters for JNT?

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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:36 UTC

In article <ut4j5r$306es$1@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in news:ut4h61$2iot$2
>@gallifrey.nk.ca:
>
>>>>>> But not unstable!
>>>>>
>>>>>IYIO.
>>>>
>>>> How were they unstable?
>>>
>>>YMMV.
>>
>> The No Comment approach
>
>It takes one to know one.
>
>
>>>> When did The Doctor first meet Xoanon?
>>>
>>>One night 'near the beginning of that business with the Giant Robot',
>>>the Doctor took off in the TARDIS for a little ride; this led him into
>>>his original adventure with the Mordee and Xoanon. Afterwards, the
>>>TARDIS returned him to Earth within a few minutes of his departure,
>>>[so] no one ever knew that he'd been away.'
>>
>> Doubt it!
>
>Are you calling Terrance Dicks a liar? He wrote 4th Doctor's first
>adventure, as well as the novelization for Face of Evil.
>

As for th Brain of Morbius Blunder...

>
>>>>>> JNT
>>>>>
>>>>>8th Doctor was not JNT.
>>>>
>>>> But neither were a radical departure.
>>>
>>>So what? Radical departures aren't always bad, as long as they're
>>>justified on screen.
>>
>> IYIO
>
>Just like your idea that it's always bad is IYIO. So we're at an
>impasse. Agree to disagree.
>
>
>

Da!
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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:38 UTC

In article <G$yX+FLaczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Mickmane wrote:
>>> On 14.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>> Mickmane wrote:
>
>>>>> Oh, I remember something. Blonde curly haired Doctor (6th?)
>>>>> was at times yelling abusively and making the poor companion
>>>>> flinch. Didn't look good.
>>>
>>>> He did more than that! The 6th Doctor tried to strangle Peri
>>>> and then threw her to the floor, that really didn't look
>>>> good!
>>>
>>> I know, but that was right after the regeneration, when he
>>> might not have been too sane.
>
>> No other Doctor did it!
>
>Regeneration went between a bit and a lot different every time. :)
>
>As a one-time bad behaviour with an explanation, it would have been
>excusable, but unfortunately he kept up the yelling, making poor
>companion flinch.
>
>Of course, if I could replace the strangling attack, I'd do that, too.
>:)
>

Can we all.

>> Personally I think it was a mis-step by JNT (the Producer) as
>> Peri was well liked and the Doctor trying to strangle her got
>> the Sixth Doctor's era off to a bad start. On top of the awful
>> coat attacking Peri put me off the Sixth Doctor anyway.
>
>You mean the clown outfit? I thought that was refreshing, or at least
>funny. :)
>

Tolerable.

>--
>
>Mickmane
>

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In article <G$yX+KVaczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 16.03.24, Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>> "Mickmane" <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote in news:G$mX9HaLczB@ATH:
>
>>> 13th Doctor, make sure everyone knows it's just the Master messing
>>> with the Doctor with that "regneration coming from other universe
>>> kid" nonsense.
>
>> This is why I chose Flux to rewrite, to cast (more) doubt on whether
>> the Division and the woman who claims to be Tecteun are just messing
>> with her.
>
>Hah, that'd work!
>
>> I also would have reused the villains from "Can You Hear Me?" for
>> Flux, instead of the new ones Chibnall created.
>
>Hm, need to get there with rewatching before I know who they are.
>

Retcon the Timeless Child out of Doctor Who!

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>
>Mickmane
>

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In article <G$yX+b65czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Agent Jakanov wrote:
>
>>> Regeneration crises are almost a tradition in Doctor Who. At
>>> least they tried to do something different with it, even if
>>> the execution was lacking.
>
>> Well, it certainly was different to what other Doctors went
>> through post-regeneration.
>
>> Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>
>Why strangle Adric?
>
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He is an Adric hater.
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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:39 UTC

In article <ut4mer$30srr$1@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in news:ut4f2g$ahs$1
>@gallifrey.nk.ca:
>
>> In article <xn0oje8jx3st04o00c@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>
>>>In fairness, a regeneration crisis doesn't have to mean
>>>physically attacking your companion. It's just Saward/JNT
>>>thought it'd be a good idea for the Sixth Doctor.
>>>
>>
>> IT was a bad idea!
>>
>>>The Third Doctor attacking Liz Shaw would have been unthinkable!
>>
>> Exactly!!
>
>The difference is, we're stuck with the first one, because it actually
>happened on screen. So the question becomes, how to we make it more
>palatable by adding more context to it?
>
>It's fine for the Doctor to be unstable and erratic, but it should have
>been balanced out with more lucid moments. The Doctor should have
>apologized to Peri by the end of the story, even if he didn't fully
>remember what he had done.
>
>There also should have been some scenes between Peri and another character
>(such as Hugo) questioning why she tolerates the Doctor's behavior towards
>her, hinting about her previous abuse and dependency.
>
>The Doctor was still suffering from the after-effects of the Spectrox
>toxemia. The 5th Doctor sacrificed his life so Peri could live, so
>indirectly that makes her responsible for his death.
>

That is not logical.
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In article <xn0ojegdu43f5hg002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Mickmane wrote:
>
>> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>
>> > Personally I think it was a mis-step by JNT (the Producer) as
>> > Peri was well liked and the Doctor trying to strangle her got
>> > the Sixth Doctor's era off to a bad start. On top of the
>> > awful coat attacking Peri put me off the Sixth Doctor anyway.
>>
>> You mean the clown outfit? I thought that was refreshing, or
>> at least funny. :)
>
>I don't think JNT saw it as a "clown outfit", I'm sure he had a
>deeper meaning in mind when he came up with the idea...

And then Grade/owell messed things up!
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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:42 UTC

In article <xn0ojegjy43nyxt003@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Mickmane wrote:
>
>> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > Agent Jakanov wrote:
>>
>> >> Regeneration crises are almost a tradition in Doctor Who.
>> >> At least they tried to do something different with it, even
>> >> if the execution was lacking.
>>
>> > Well, it certainly was different to what other Doctors went
>> > through post-regeneration.
>>
>> > Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>>
>> Why strangle Adric?
>
>Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that was
>a good idea!
>
>Also, it would have saved time and money on having to arrange a
>space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get rid of him! :-)
>

Yu and I are no Adric fans!
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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:42 UTC

In article <ut505f$32t95$1@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>"Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote in news:xn0ojegjy43nyxt003
>@reader.xsnews.nl:
>
>> Mickmane wrote:
>>
>>> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> > Agent Jakanov wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Regeneration crises are almost a tradition in Doctor Who.
>>> >> At least they tried to do something different with it, even
>>> >> if the execution was lacking.
>>>
>>> > Well, it certainly was different to what other Doctors went
>>> > through post-regeneration.
>>>
>>> > Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>>>
>>> Why strangle Adric?
>>
>> Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that was
>> a good idea!
>
>What's the motivation for it, from the writing standpoint? In the case
>of Peri, the Doctor was subconsciously aware that she was indirectly
>responsible for his previous incarnation's death, and he was triggered
>by her name, which alluded to a supernatural being in Persian mythology
>which was at one time "evil".
>

Oh?

>> Also, it would have saved time and money on having to arrange a
>> space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get rid of him! :-)
>
>So strangled all the way to death? The idea of the Doctor going all the
>way with Adric is just... wrong.
>
>That said, it was implied in the very first episode An Unearthly Child
>that Barbara and Ian feared he was child abuser.
>
>
>
>

How?
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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:43 UTC

In article <ut509q$32t95$2@dont-email.me>,
Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>"Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote in news:xn0ojegdu43f5hg002
>@reader.xsnews.nl:
>
>> Mickmane wrote:
>
>>> You mean the clown outfit? I thought that was refreshing, or
>>> at least funny. :)
>>
>> I don't think JNT saw it as a "clown outfit", I'm sure he had a
>> deeper meaning in mind when he came up with the idea...
>
>Wow, Doctor Who was so woke back then!
>
>Were both Adric and the 6th Doctor Mary-Sue characters for JNT?
>

Mary-Sue?
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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 09:55 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 17/3/24 3:25 am:
> In article <ut4grt$2voft$1@dont-email.me>,
> Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in news:ut4f70$ahs$5
>> @gallifrey.nk.ca:
>>> In article <ut4c6f$2uq53$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Untrue. The 3rd Doctor was incapacitated for a large part of his
>>>>>> first story. The intro stories for the 5th and 10th Doctors copied
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> But not unstable!
>>>>
>>>> IYIO.
>>>
>>> How were they unstable?
>>
>> YMMV.
>
> The No Comment approach

The EXACT SAME APPROACH YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", USE!!

Oh! And don't forget ....
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-11/religious-leader-arrested-over-child-grooming-investigation/103573148
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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:01 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 17/3/24 10:39 am:
> In article <G$yX+b65czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> Agent Jakanov wrote:
>>
>>>> Regeneration crises are almost a tradition in Doctor Who. At
>>>> least they tried to do something different with it, even if
>>>> the execution was lacking.
>>
>>> Well, it certainly was different to what other Doctors went
>>> through post-regeneration.
>>
>>> Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>>
>> Why strangle Adric?
>>
>> Mickmane
>
> He is an Adric hater.
>
WHAT?? Adric is an "Adric Hater"?? Really??
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On 17.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> Mickmane wrote:
>> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

>>> Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>>
>> Why strangle Adric?

> Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that was
> a good idea!

Peri doesn't really stand out in my memory. I'd have to rewatch to get
an idea of what she was like.

(And I already forgot what JNT stands for, some producer/director/
whatever, but that never really counts with me, I just look at the
product. :) )

> Also, it would have saved time and money on having to arrange a
> space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get rid of him! :-)

Lol!

But then what would have wiped out the dinos?

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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:13 UTC

In article <ut6eln$3f6vv$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 17/3/24 3:25 am:
>> In article <ut4grt$2voft$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in news:ut4f70$ahs$5
>>> @gallifrey.nk.ca:
>>>> In article <ut4c6f$2uq53$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Untrue. The 3rd Doctor was incapacitated for a large part of his
>>>>>>> first story. The intro stories for the 5th and 10th Doctors copied
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But not unstable!
>>>>>
>>>>> IYIO.
>>>>
>>>> How were they unstable?
>>>
>>> YMMV.
>>
>> The No Comment approach
>
>The EXACT SAME APPROACH YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", USE!!
>

How there REd-bearded boyo?

>Oh! And don't forget ....
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-11/religious-leader-arrested-over-child-grooming-investigation/103573148
>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:14 UTC

In article <ut6f2i$3f6vv$2@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 17/3/24 10:39 am:
>> In article <G$yX+b65czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>>> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>> Agent Jakanov wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Regeneration crises are almost a tradition in Doctor Who. At
>>>>> least they tried to do something different with it, even if
>>>>> the execution was lacking.
>>>
>>>> Well, it certainly was different to what other Doctors went
>>>> through post-regeneration.
>>>
>>>> Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>>>
>>> Why strangle Adric?
>>>
>>> Mickmane
>>
>> He is an Adric hater.
>>
>WHAT?? Adric is an "Adric Hater"?? Really??

Do you really know RADW Red-beard?

>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:15 UTC

In article <Ga1YBr$qczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 17.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Mickmane wrote:
>>> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>
>>>> Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>>>
>>> Why strangle Adric?
>
>> Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that was
>> a good idea!
>
>Peri doesn't really stand out in my memory. I'd have to rewatch to get
>an idea of what she was like.
>
>(And I already forgot what JNT stands for, some producer/director/
>whatever, but that never really counts with me, I just look at the
>product. :) )

Ever met J-NT?

>
>> Also, it would have saved time and money on having to arrange a
>> space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get rid of him! :-)
>
>Lol!
>
>But then what would have wiped out the dinos?
>

Good one!

>--
>
>Mickmane
>

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:43 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 17/3/24 11:13 pm:
> In article <ut6eln$3f6vv$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 17/3/24 3:25 am:
>>> In article <ut4grt$2voft$1@dont-email.me>, Agent Jakanov
>>> <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in
>>>> news:ut4f70$ahs$5 @gallifrey.nk.ca:
>>>>> In article <ut4c6f$2uq53$1@dont-email.me>, Agent Jakanov
>>>>> <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Untrue. The 3rd Doctor was incapacitated for a large
>>>>>>>> part of his first story. The intro stories for the 5th
>>>>>>>> and 10th Doctors copied this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But not unstable!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IYIO.
>>>>>
>>>>> How were they unstable?
>>>>
>>>> YMMV.
>>>
>>> The No Comment approach
>>
>> The EXACT SAME APPROACH YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", USE!!
>
> How there REd-bearded boyo?

By *NEVER* actually answering ANY of the questions asked of YOU, "Yellow
Beard Yadallee".
--
Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:24 UTC

In article <ut6ohf$3h7h3$2@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 17/3/24 11:13 pm:
>> In article <ut6eln$3f6vv$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 17/3/24 3:25 am:
>>>> In article <ut4grt$2voft$1@dont-email.me>, Agent Jakanov
>>>> <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>>>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in
>>>>> news:ut4f70$ahs$5 @gallifrey.nk.ca:
>>>>>> In article <ut4c6f$2uq53$1@dont-email.me>, Agent Jakanov
>>>>>> <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Untrue. The 3rd Doctor was incapacitated for a large
>>>>>>>>> part of his first story. The intro stories for the 5th
>>>>>>>>> and 10th Doctors copied this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But not unstable!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IYIO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How were they unstable?
>>>>>
>>>>> YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> The No Comment approach
>>>
>>> The EXACT SAME APPROACH YOU, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", USE!!
>>
>> How there REd-bearded boyo?
>
>By *NEVER* actually answering ANY of the questions asked of YOU, "Yellow
>Beard Yadallee".

You cannot acept the answer Red-Beard

>--
>Daniel

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Agent Jakanov wrote:

> "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote in
> news:xn0ojegjy43nyxt003 @reader.xsnews.nl:
>
> > Mickmane wrote:
> >>
> >> Why strangle Adric?
> >
> > Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that
> > was a good idea!
> >
> > Also, it would have saved time and money on having to
> > arrange a space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get
> > rid of him! :-)
>
> So strangled all the way to death? The idea of the Doctor
> going all the way with Adric is just... wrong.

Nah, Adric was sooooo annoying. If any companion deserved to be
attacked in the TARDIS by the Doctor, in the whole history of
Doctor Who, it was Adric.

Fortunately, his character was redeemed by Big Finish in their
Fifth Doctor audio adventures, so I am a bit more forgiving in
my old age.

> That said, it was implied in the very first episode An
> Unearthly Child that Barbara and Ian feared he was child
> abuser.

I must have missed that bit.

Not being born at the time probably played a part in that!

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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0ojegjy43nyxt003@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Mickmane wrote:
> >> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
> >>
> >> Why strangle Adric?
> >
> > Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that
> > was a good idea!
> >
> > Also, it would have saved time and money on having to
> > arrange a space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get
> > rid of him! :-)
>
> You and I are no Adric fans!

Not as he was portrayed on screen in S18 & S19...

His character is somewhat improved in the Big Finish audios once
Matthew Waterhouse decided to reprise the role of Adric a few
years ago.

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Mickmane wrote:

> On 17.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Mickmane wrote:
> >> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>
> >>> Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
> > >
> >> Why strangle Adric?
> >
> > Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that
> > was a good idea!
>
> Peri doesn't really stand out in my memory. I'd have to
> rewatch to get an idea of what she was like.

You don't remember Peri?!

I'm sure if you'd seen Peri in "Planet of Fire" she'd have stood
out!!!

I loved Peri. She was probably the last Doctor Who companion
that I had a 'thing' for...
> > Also, it would have saved time and money on having to
> > arrange a space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get
> > rid of him! :-)
>
> Lol!
>
> But then what would have wiped out the dinos?

Oh, I dunno ... maybe an asteroid? ;-)

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 by: The Last Doctor - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:16 UTC

Agent Jakanov <mouth@onlegs.org> wrote:
> Which Doctor Who stories would you give the "lemonade treatment"? That
> is, make lemonades out of the lemon, which means to improve the taste or
> quality, either by rewriting it or making a follow up story that makes
> it look better.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We don’t have the pressures that the
production team were under - especially in those early days.

But … in the words of the Disney version of Mary Poppins “Let’s start at
the very beginning - it’s a very good place to start”.

An Unearthly Child. The first episode was fantastic. But the next three -
meh. It wasn’t a historical story - it was a dull mess of fantasy cavemen.
And the Doctor’s characterisation - like that of the Sixth Doctor - was
very unsympathetic.

So if I was starting again - An Unearthly Child would lead straight into
The Daleks. And a bunch of padding would get cut from the scripts for the
Daleks - I think we could lose about 2 episodes of time and not miss a
single meaningful story moment. So in the revised Universe, we’d have the
opener followed by a tighter, five episode version of The Daleks. The three
“Tribe of Gum” scripts would be redlined and the author told to come back
later with a different version of the Fire Makers with less repetition and
more modern dialogue - pointing out that the TARDIS is translating, and no
primitive two word sentences. Give the characters longer names. And do the
whole thing in two episodes.

--
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:19 UTC

In article <xn0ojfvbry3udl002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Agent Jakanov wrote:
>
>> "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote in
>> news:xn0ojegjy43nyxt003 @reader.xsnews.nl:
>>
>> > Mickmane wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Why strangle Adric?
>> >
>> > Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that
>> > was a good idea!
>> >
>> > Also, it would have saved time and money on having to
>> > arrange a space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get
>> > rid of him! :-)
>>
>> So strangled all the way to death? The idea of the Doctor
>> going all the way with Adric is just... wrong.
>
>Nah, Adric was sooooo annoying. If any companion deserved to be
>attacked in the TARDIS by the Doctor, in the whole history of
>Doctor Who, it was Adric.
>
>Fortunately, his character was redeemed by Big Finish in their
>Fifth Doctor audio adventures, so I am a bit more forgiving in
>my old age.
>

From twit to ...

>> That said, it was implied in the very first episode An
>> Unearthly Child that Barbara and Ian feared he was child
>> abuser.
>
>I must have missed that bit.
>
>Not being born at the time probably played a part in that!

I wonder if true!

--
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:20 UTC

In article <xn0ojfvl1yc1s5003@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <xn0ojegjy43nyxt003@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > Mickmane wrote:
>> >> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>> >>
>> >> Why strangle Adric?
>> >
>> > Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that
>> > was a good idea!
>> >
>> > Also, it would have saved time and money on having to
>> > arrange a space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get
>> > rid of him! :-)
>>
>> You and I are no Adric fans!
>
>Not as he was portrayed on screen in S18 & S19...
>

So flame JN-t?

>His character is somewhat improved in the Big Finish audios once
>Matthew Waterhouse decided to reprise the role of Adric a few
>years ago.

--
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Subject: Re: The Lemonade Treatment
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:21:13 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:21 UTC

In article <xn0ojfxul11gzr5007@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Mickmane wrote:
>
>> On 17.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > Mickmane wrote:
>> >> On 16.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Now, if the Fifth Doctor had strangled Adric...
>> > >
>> >> Why strangle Adric?
>> >
>> > Why not? He was more annoying than Peri and JNT thought that
>> > was a good idea!
>>
>> Peri doesn't really stand out in my memory. I'd have to
>> rewatch to get an idea of what she was like.
>
>You don't remember Peri?!
>
>I'm sure if you'd seen Peri in "Planet of Fire" she'd have stood
>out!!!
>
>I loved Peri. She was probably the last Doctor Who companion
>that I had a 'thing' for...
>

Peri seems to be a natural.

>> > Also, it would have saved time and money on having to
>> > arrange a space freighter to crash in to Earth just to get
>> > rid of him! :-)
>>
>> Lol!
>>
>> But then what would have wiped out the dinos?
>
>Oh, I dunno ... maybe an asteroid? ;-)

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