Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29

No.

Lynn

In article <sqiamj$qfs$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>
>No.
>
Well, diabetes....

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 02:59:14 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

> In article <sqiamj$qfs$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
> > https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
> >
> >No.
> >
> Well, diabetes....

And there's fitting through doorways.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at centurylink dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>
> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>
> No.
>
> Lynn

Greatly depends on what's in the pie.

For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
the end of a toothpick is far too much.

In article <t8kqsgd8ktuuusif8snfpfetqnnjl10qpn@4ax.com>,
Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 02:59:14 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>Heydt) wrote:
>
>> In article <sqiamj$qfs$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>> > https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>> >
>> >No.
>> >
>> Well, diabetes....
>
>And there's fitting through doorways.
>
Ernestine Schuman-Heink (1861-1936) was an operatic contralto of
not inconsiderable mass (although judging by many photographs on
Wikipedia, she wasn't all *that* huge. One of her common roles
was the Witch in _Haensel und Gretel_. The tale is told that she
was scheduled to perform with a large symphony orchestra; the
size of the orchestra is relevant, because the many players and
their music stands packed the available space.

So she was trying to get from the wings to the front of the
stage, and there just wasn't room. The conductor whispered to
her, "Go sideways, Madame!"

She answered, in her magnificent contralto that filled the entire
hall, "Mein Gott, es gibt kein Sideways!"

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

>On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>
>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Lynn
>
>Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>
>For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>the end of a toothpick is far too much.

De gustibus non est disputandum.

Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
gooseberries and rhubarb.

I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.

But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
taste a whole lot better to me.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>
>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>>Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>>
>>For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>>the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>
>De gustibus non est disputandum.
>
>Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
>to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
>gooseberries and rhubarb.
>
>I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.
>
>But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
>taste a whole lot better to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hodg5It3usE
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>
>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>>Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>>
>>For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>>the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>
>De gustibus non est disputandum.
>
>Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
>to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
>gooseberries and rhubarb.
>
>I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.
>
>But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
>taste a whole lot better to me.

Rhubarb pie (with, yes, sufficient sugar) is delectable. I have
never encountered gooseberries.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
> >>
> >> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
> >> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
> >>
> >> No.
> >>
> >> Lynn
> >
> >Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
> >
> >For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
> >the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>
> De gustibus non est disputandum.
>
> Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
> to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
> gooseberries and rhubarb.
>

Rhubarb is not a fruit.

> I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.
>
> But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
> taste a whole lot better to me.

The house that my parents bought when I was 13 had several acres of land
attached to it which included a rhubarb patch. Mom baked several rhubarb
pies each summer.

--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
-------------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

On 12/30/2021 1:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>
>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>     https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Lynn
>
> Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>
> For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on the
> end of a toothpick is far too much.

I love the pumpkin pie that my wife makes with her own custom spice mix.
She made three for Christmas and I bought a pecan pie at HEB.

Lynn

On 2021-12-30 20:09:03 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
> On 12/30/2021 1:32 AM, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>
>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>>     https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>> Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>>
>> For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>> the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>
> I love the pumpkin pie that my wife makes with her own custom spice
> mix. She made three for Christmas and I bought a pecan pie at HEB.
>
> Lynn

Technically "pumpkin pie" isn't even a pie at all. The version you
mostly see which has a pastry case filled with organge goo is really a
"tart". Similarly with "lemon meriingue pie", "key lime pie", etc. also
being tarts

A tart is *usually* open-topped, while a real "pie" has a lid,
*usually* pastry, on the top (can be with or without the lower case).

On 2021-12-30 17:39:24 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt said:
> In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>>
>>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>>>
>>> For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>>> the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>>
>> De gustibus non est disputandum.
>>
>> Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
>> to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
>> gooseberries and rhubarb.
>>
>> I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.
>>
>> But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
>> taste a whole lot better to me.
>
> Rhubarb pie (with, yes, sufficient sugar) is delectable. I have
> never encountered gooseberries.

Usually a rhubarb pie or crumble has some other fruit (e.g. Apple)
mixed in as well to cut done on the amount of sugar needed.

The gooseberry has other names too, including "goldenberry" and "ground
berry". Mostly they are used for jam (or "jelly" if you're a word
redefining American), but can be used in pies too.

The "kiwifruit" (incorrectly called just "kiwi" in many other
countries, which is really a flightless bird) is more correctly called
the "Chinese gooseberry" because it's a native plant of China later
stolen and renamed by New Zealand growers for copyright purposes ...
and they now selfishly complain that China is stealing their market for
the fruit! :-\

On 12/30/21 3:30 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-12-30 17:39:24 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt said:
>> In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
>> Paul S Person  <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>>>
>>>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>>>>
>>>> For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>>>> the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>>>
>>> De gustibus non est disputandum.
>>>
>>> Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
>>> to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
>>> gooseberries and rhubarb.
>>>
>>> I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.
>>>
>>> But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
>>> taste a whole lot better to me.
>>
>> Rhubarb pie (with, yes, sufficient sugar) is delectable.  I have
>> never encountered gooseberries.
>
> Usually a rhubarb pie or crumble has some other fruit (e.g. Apple) mixed
> in as well to cut done on the amount of sugar needed.
>
> The gooseberry has other names too, including "goldenberry" and "ground
> berry". Mostly they are used for jam (or "jelly" if you're a word
> redefining  American), but can be used in pies too.

The use of “jelly” to designate a clarified fruit-based production, with
no use of animal gelatin, is at least as old as the 1855 edition of Mrs.
Acton’s “Modern Cookery”, published by Longman.

> The "kiwifruit" (incorrectly called just "kiwi" in many other countries,
> which is really a flightless bird) is more correctly called the "Chinese
> gooseberry" because it's a native plant of China later stolen and
> renamed by New Zealand growers for copyright purposes ... and they now
> selfishly complain that China is stealing their market for the fruit!   :-\
>

--
John W. Kennedy
Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

On 12/30/21 11:21 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <t8kqsgd8ktuuusif8snfpfetqnnjl10qpn@4ax.com>,
> Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 02:59:14 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>> Heydt) wrote:
>>
>>> In article <sqiamj$qfs$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>> Well, diabetes....
>>
>> And there's fitting through doorways.
>>
> Ernestine Schuman-Heink (1861-1936) was an operatic contralto of
> not inconsiderable mass (although judging by many photographs on
> Wikipedia, she wasn't all *that* huge. One of her common roles
> was the Witch in _Haensel und Gretel_. The tale is told that she
> was scheduled to perform with a large symphony orchestra; the
> size of the orchestra is relevant, because the many players and
> their music stands packed the available space.
>
> So she was trying to get from the wings to the front of the
> stage, and there just wasn't room. The conductor whispered to
> her, "Go sideways, Madame!"
>
> She answered, in her magnificent contralto that filled the entire
> hall, "Mein Gott, es gibt kein Sideways!"

I really must insert here that, though she was no doubt zaftig, my
teacher would lose ten pounds in a single performance. And “Hänsel und
Gretel”, despite being popular at children’s matinees, is musically
rather heavy. (Richard Strauss conducted at the première.)

--
John W. Kennedy
Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin,
King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!

On 2021-12-30 22:12:58 +0000, John W Kennedy said:
> On 12/30/21 3:30 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2021-12-30 17:39:24 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt said:
>>> In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
>>> Paul S Person  <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>>>>> the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>>>>
>>>> De gustibus non est disputandum.
>>>>
>>>> Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
>>>> to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
>>>> gooseberries and rhubarb.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.
>>>>
>>>> But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
>>>> taste a whole lot better to me.
>>>
>>> Rhubarb pie (with, yes, sufficient sugar) is delectable.  I have
>>> never encountered gooseberries.
>>
>> Usually a rhubarb pie or crumble has some other fruit (e.g. Apple)
>> mixed in as well to cut done on the amount of sugar needed.
>>
>> The gooseberry has other names too, including "goldenberry" and "ground
>> berry". Mostly they are used for jam (or "jelly" if you're a word
>> redefining  American), but can be used in pies too.
>
> The use of "jelly"€ to designate a clarified fruit-based production,
> with no use of animal gelatin, is at least as old as the 1855 edition
> of Mrs. Acton’s "€œModern Cookery", published by Longman.

"Jam" is a spreadable topping you put on toast or between layers of
sponge cake. (I would say used on scones, but then that opens up yet
another rabbit hole of misued American definitions).

"Jelly" is a wobbly desert used in trifles, etc., although there are
also things like mint "jelly" (as oposed to "mint sauce") which goes
with roast lamb.

Gooseberries can actually be used for both a jam and a jelly.

>> The "kiwifruit" (incorrectly called just "kiwi" in many other
>> countries, which is really a flightless bird) is more correctly called
>> the "Chinese gooseberry" because it's a native plant of China later
>> stolen and renamed by New Zealand growers for copyright purposes ...
>> and they now selfishly complain that China is stealing their market for
>> the fruit!  :-\

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
>On 2021-12-30 22:12:58 +0000, John W Kennedy said:

>>> The gooseberry has other names too, including "goldenberry" and "ground
>>> berry". Mostly they are used for jam (or "jelly" if you're a word
>>> redefining� American), but can be used in pies too.
>>
>> The use of "jelly"�� to designate a clarified fruit-based production,
>> with no use of animal gelatin, is at least as old as the 1855 edition
>> of Mrs. Acton’s "��Modern Cookery", published by Longman.
>
>"Jam" is a spreadable topping you put on toast or between layers of
>sponge cake. (I would say used on scones, but then that opens up yet
>another rabbit hole of misued American definitions).
>
>"Jelly" is a wobbly desert used in trifles, etc., although there are
>also things like mint "jelly" (as oposed to "mint sauce") which goes
>with roast lamb.

Jelly is made from juice only. Jam includes the fruit. Both are put on
toast, bread, muffins or between layers of sponge cake.

"Jelly is a clear fruit spread made from cooked fruit juice and
sugar, and possibly pectin, which helps it gel and thicken. ...

Jam is a thick spread made from fruit juice, chopped, crushed,
or pur�ed fruit, and sugar. Pectin may also be added to help it
gel, but jams are usually looser than jellies."

www.finecooking.com

On 2021-12-31 01:54:22 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
>> On 2021-12-30 22:12:58 +0000, John W Kennedy said:
>
>>>> The gooseberry has other names too, including "goldenberry" and "ground
>>>> berry". Mostly they are used for jam (or "jelly" if you're a word
>>>> redefining  American), but can be used in pies too.
>>>
>>> The use of "jelly"€ to designate a clarified fruit-based production,
>>> with no use of animal gelatin, is at least as old as the 1855 edition
>>> of Mrs. Acton’s "€œModern Cookery", published by Longman.
>>
>> "Jam" is a spreadable topping you put on toast or between layers of
>> sponge cake. (I would say used on scones, but then that opens up yet
>> another rabbit hole of misued American definitions).
>>
>> "Jelly" is a wobbly desert used in trifles, etc., although there are
>> also things like mint "jelly" (as oposed to "mint sauce") which goes
>> with roast lamb.
>
> Jelly is made from juice only. Jam includes the fruit. Both are put on
> toast, bread, muffins or between layers of sponge cake.
>
> "Jelly is a clear fruit spread made from cooked fruit juice and
> sugar, and possibly pectin, which helps it gel and thicken. ...
>
> Jam is a thick spread made from fruit juice, chopped, crushed,
> or puréed fruit, and sugar. Pectin may also be added to help it
> gel, but jams are usually looser than jellies."
>
> www.finecooking.com

Those are the silly American re-definitions. The actual *English*
definitions are what I gave ... which is the entire point I started
with. :-\

In article <sql4tr$fs1$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2021-12-30 17:39:24 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt said:
>> In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
>> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>>>
>>>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>>>>
>>>> For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>>>> the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>>>
>>> De gustibus non est disputandum.
>>>
>>> Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
>>> to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
>>> gooseberries and rhubarb.
>>>
>>> I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.
>>>
>>> But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
>>> taste a whole lot better to me.
>>
>> Rhubarb pie (with, yes, sufficient sugar) is delectable. I have
>> never encountered gooseberries.
>
>Usually a rhubarb pie or crumble has some other fruit (e.g. Apple)

Strawberry, in my experience.

>mixed in as well to cut done on the amount of sugar needed.

But unmixed (except with sugar) rhubarb, IMO, tastes better.
>
>The gooseberry has other names too, including "goldenberry" and "ground
>berry". Mostly they are used for jam (or "jelly" if you're a word
>redefining American), but can be used in pies too.

>The "kiwifruit" (incorrectly called just "kiwi" in many other
>countries, which is really a flightless bird) is more correctly called
>the "Chinese gooseberry" because it's a native plant of China later
>stolen and renamed by New Zealand growers for copyright purposes ...
>and they now selfishly complain that China is stealing their market for
>the fruit! :-\

Well, I like kiwifruit, except for the hassle involved in peeling
it.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

In article <robertaw-7B1E65.10195830122021@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
>In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>> >>
>> >> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>> >> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>> >>
>> >> No.
>> >>
>> >> Lynn
>> >
>> >Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>> >
>> >For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>> >the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>>
>> De gustibus non est disputandum.
>>
>> Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
>> to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
>> gooseberries and rhubarb.
>>
>
>Rhubarb is not a fruit.

Depends on your definition. Botanically, rhubarb is not a fruit
(it's a stem), and a tomato is.

But if you define "fruit" as "something you put in a pie, with
enough sweetening to make it palatable," then rhubarb fits that
definition.

>The house that my parents bought when I was 13 had several acres of land
>attached to it which included a rhubarb patch. Mom baked several rhubarb
>pies each summer.

Ah. Now all I need is a time machine and an introduction to your
Mom.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

In article <sql46t$4kr$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>Technically "pumpkin pie" isn't even a pie at all. The version you
>mostly see which has a pastry case filled with organge goo is really a
>"tart". Similarly with "lemon meriingue pie", "key lime pie", etc. also
>being tarts
>
>A tart is *usually* open-topped, while a real "pie" has a lid,
>*usually* pastry, on the top (can be with or without the lower case).
>
Does a lemon or Key Lime confection continue to be a tart when
it's covered with meringue?

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On 31/12/21 9:30 am, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-12-30 17:39:24 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt said:
>> In article <u4qrsg1ofs6t5304674djqlt5m2b5d144e@4ax.com>,
>> Paul S Person  <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 20:32:35 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-29 18:50:58 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>>>
>>>>> Over The Hedge: Can One Ever Eat Too Much Pie ?
>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/29
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> Greatly depends on what's in the pie.
>>>>
>>>> For example, 'pumpkin pie' is simply digusting so even a tiny bit on
>>>> the end of a toothpick is far too much.
>>>
>>> De gustibus non est disputandum.
>>>
>>> Surprises in Amazon's efforts to provide canned fruit have exposed me
>>> to two fruits I never had when growing up but have heard about:
>>> gooseberries and rhubarb.
>>>
>>> I didn't like them; I suspect they are an acquired taste.
>>>
>>> But bake them into a pie with enough sugar and I suspect they would
>>> taste a whole lot better to me.
>>
>> Rhubarb pie (with, yes, sufficient sugar) is delectable.  I have
>> never encountered gooseberries.
>
> Usually a rhubarb pie or crumble has some other fruit (e.g. Apple) mixed
> in as well to cut done on the amount of sugar needed.
>
> The gooseberry has other names too, including "goldenberry" and "ground
> berry". Mostly they are used for jam (or "jelly" if you're a word
> redefining  American), but can be used in pies too.
>
> The "kiwifruit" (incorrectly called just "kiwi" in many other countries,
> which is really a flightless bird) is more correctly called the "Chinese
> gooseberry" because it's a native plant of China later stolen and
> renamed by New Zealand growers for copyright purposes ... and they now
> selfishly complain that China is stealing their market for the fruit!   :-\

IIRC there was more than just selfish complaint; it may have gone to
some court or arbitration. I wouldn't say stolen from China. Back in the
day when Chinese gooseberries arrived in New Zealand, no one would
regard it as theft. But New Zealand growers developed a new copyrighted
strain of the Chinese gooseberry which was technically stolen by Chinese
growers. ( Good on them. Imagine the stupidity of someone owning the
copyright for the potato! Another example of Capitalism's desire for
control rather competition.)

I never see nor hear of gooseberries any more though they were once a
common and popular home garden bush, perhaps because they were hardy and
prolific producers. I remember eating them raw after removing the
prickles and tail. Delicious. Kiwifruit production requires much more
attention and is a commercial operation in contrast.

In article <r4yL97.Hwn@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <sql46t$4kr$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>
>>Technically "pumpkin pie" isn't even a pie at all. The version you
>>mostly see which has a pastry case filled with organge goo is really a
>>"tart". Similarly with "lemon meriingue pie", "key lime pie", etc. also
>>being tarts
>>
>>A tart is *usually* open-topped, while a real "pie" has a lid,
>>*usually* pastry, on the top (can be with or without the lower case).
>>
>Does a lemon or Key Lime confection continue to be a tart when
>it's covered with meringue?
>
Moving slightly sideways:

_Slate_ online mag is reprinting some of its best articles from
the last 25 years. This one is about pies.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/11/20-guests-19-pies-my-mothers-demented-glorious-thanksgiving-baking-extravaganza.html

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
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On 31/12/21 3:43 pm, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

>
> Well, I like kiwifruit, except for the hassle involved in peeling
> it.
>

Bifurcate it through its equatorial circumference and dig out the good
bits with a spoon.

In article <sqltt2$nqh$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On 31/12/21 3:43 pm, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, I like kiwifruit, except for the hassle involved in peeling
>> it.
>>
>
>Bifurcate it through its equatorial circumference and dig out the good
>bits with a spoon.

And the Golden Kiwi apparently can be eaten peel & all.
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On 31/12/21 4:48 pm, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <sqltt2$nqh$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 31/12/21 3:43 pm, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well, I like kiwifruit, except for the hassle involved in peeling
>>> it.
>>>
>>
>> Bifurcate it through its equatorial circumference and dig out the good
>> bits with a spoon.
>
> And the Golden Kiwi apparently can be eaten peel & all.
>

Yes. I have never eaten the Golden variety and seldom have the green. My
preference is usually for an apple for texture, taste and to keep the
doctor away.