On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 11:25:03 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 1/03/2022 4:38 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:51:57 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/02/2022 12:38 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>>> My dear old uncle was so convinced.
>>>
>>> Your dear old uncle had no idea.
>>
>> He could have shown you a few things....
>>>
>>>> He said it prevented any trace of pre-ignition.
>>>
>>> Yep. Definitely had absolutely no idea.
>>
>> Like this topic...
>>>
>>>> Indeed I once had an old Volkswagen and it ran better
>>>> in foggy weather.
>>>
>>> Really? And what was the relative humidity on that day? :)
>>
>> The windows were fogging up, so I suspect close to 100%
>>>
>>>> My uncle was so interested there were plans to
>>>> affix a water fogger just before the carburettor. I can't remember
>>>> what happened.
>>>
>>> He was committed to an asylum I expect.
>>
>> No he was seeking a suitable one for you, with concrete walls and
>> buxom guards with whips.
>>>
>>> Performance output of engines changes with air *density*, in that the
>>> denser the air the more power they make. It's all about volumetric
>>> efficiency, and the amount of air you can pack into the cylinders. When
>>> air density is high, you pack more air into each cylinder creating a
>>> bigger bang and ultimately more power. This is precisely why most cars
>>> run better at night with cooler air temperatures than they do over the
>>> course of the day where the temperatures have been higher.
>>
>> Isn't that what I said? You must be a quick learner...perhaps.
>
> No, humid air is less dense. Cold air is more dense. You can have warm
> humid air and cold humid air. You can also use water to increase power,
> but that is not the same thing as the answer to "Do cars run better in
> humid weather?" being "yes". The only people suggesting someone
> presented that as the answer are those with a different agenda.
>
> Watch the videos I linked to so you can understand the differences.
> Ignore the trolls who aren't qualified and don't understand the science
> which goes well beyond their level of understanding. They are only
> interested in attacking and abusing you and others on strawmen of their
> creation.
>
> They can offer *nothing* of value.

Aside from unintended humour and some clear insights into the behaviours of
Neanderthal society.

alvey

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On 1/03/2022 3:50 pm, alvey wrote:

> “She's [Michalia Cash] a fucktard. If she came anywhere near me I
> would punch her.” Fraudster, 09Apr19

As would any reasonable person.

On 28/02/2022 6:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 28/02/2022 3:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 28/02/2022 4:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 28/02/2022 3:09 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 28/02/2022 3:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 28/02/2022 11:50 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 28/02/2022 1:51 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 28/02/2022 12:38 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My dear old uncle was so convinced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your dear old uncle had no idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He said it prevented any trace of pre-ignition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. Definitely had absolutely no idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Indeed I once had an old Volkswagen and it ran better
>>>>>>>> in foggy weather.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? And what was the relative humidity on that day? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  My uncle was so interested there were plans to
>>>>>>>> affix a water fogger just before the carburettor.  I can't
>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>>>> what happened.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He was committed to an asylum I expect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Performance output of engines changes with air *density*, in
>>>>>>> that the denser the air the more power they make. It's all about
>>>>>>> volumetric efficiency, and the amount of air you can pack into
>>>>>>> the cylinders. When air density is high, you pack more air into
>>>>>>> each cylinder creating a bigger bang and ultimately more power.
>>>>>>> This is precisely why most cars run better at night with cooler
>>>>>>> air temperatures than they do over the course of the day where
>>>>>>> the temperatures have been higher.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Humidity has the opposite effect in that the higher the moisture
>>>>>>> content of the air the less dense it becomes resulting in a
>>>>>>> lower than optimum air volume in each cylinder with a
>>>>>>> corresponding reduction in power output.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not rocket science. Well, for anyone *other* than you and
>>>>>>> your uncle apparently. And possibly Felix......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and you it seems. see below...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that doesn't explain those water injection devices
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whilst he grasps some  of the most basic concepts, It's sciency
>>>>> stuff well beyond the pay grade of some uneducable unqualified
>>>>> loser who couldn't finish year 9 :-) He doesn't consider how water
>>>>> can be used to increase air density, what impact it has in
>>>>> ignition and how that can be used to advantage in terms of
>>>>> compression or boost. Nor does he consider the thermal expansion
>>>>> characteristics of moisture in air when it is heated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>> water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>
>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>
>> Yeah, so would I :)

here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20

>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk

so basically producing the effects Peter's Uncle noticed. I was out the
rain today and the car does seem to run better in the wet. i guess the
reason all car manufacturers don't use water injection is because of the
added cost to the customer.

>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA

very complex. much to go wrong.

>>>>>
>>>>> etc...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i'll watch those
>>
>> By all means, watch them Felix. But when you're done, take a crack at
>> explaining how water/methanol injection systems which exist to
>> prevent abnormal combustion problems, have anything to do with the
>> claim that engines run better in humid conditions.
>>
>> Seriously. Have a go at an explanation. If you get in quick you'll be
>> able to beat Clasener who's no doubt bursting at the seams to make a
>> long winded and completely irrelevant post on the subject like he
>> *always* does.
>>
>> Still, if you want to educate yourself, then have a read here:
>>
>>> https://asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/ICEF/proceedings-abstract/ICEF2006/42606/421/318050
>>>
>>
>> And here:
>>
>>> https://airdensityonline.com/2017/04/water-vapor-horsepower/
>>
>> And here:
>>
>>> https://airdensityonline.com/2017/04/water-vapor-horsepower/
>>
>> And if you want a more technical explanation, here:
>>
>>> https://asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/gasturbinespower/article/139/5/051501/374501/Effect-of-Ambient-Temperature-and-Humidity-on
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps you could raise these points with the resident "mechanics"
>> and ask them to explain to you how "wet air" and water injection are
>> two different things :)
>>
>
> Nice attempt at face-saving, except nobody said they were the same
> thing, MaGoogle. The videos I posted explained the difference
> perfectly and how water *can* be used to increase power but clearly
> it's above *your* level of understanding.
>
> As expected from an uneducable year 9 unqualified flunky :-)
>
>
>

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On 1/3/22 16:50, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 15:37:24 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 1/03/2022 3:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>
>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>
>> Lol :)
>>
>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>
>> Yeah, you made a fairly decent idiot of yourself. Oh well, there's
>> always tomorrow....
>>
>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>> point. :--)))))
>>
>> If you bothered to check and gave up being a dick for just a moment,
>> you'd see that addressing the expressive heart of the point was exactly
>> what was done.
>>
>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>
>> Generally people don't display this level of "stupid" by accident or
>> genetics and have to dedicate a fair amount of their lives in the
>> pursuit of it. You must work very hard at this and just *had* to have
>> had times in the past where you considered turning pro.
>>
>> Dance around making an absolute *flog* of yourself all you like, but the
>> simple arithmetic here is that you, and your uncle, have no idea what
>> you're talking about and you can consider yourself as having been educated.
>>
>> Here endeth the lesson.
>
> I wonder if any of The Enablers have ever paused for a moment to wonder why
> it's so *very, very* important for the Fraudster to paint so many people as
> "flogs", "stupid", "dick" etc etc etc. Especially in cases like this one
> where his hissiness is based on a blatant lie.

A clear cut case of projection. He's trying to divert attention *away*
from the fact that he is *exactly* like that - and continues to prove it
day after day. FFS, he and the idiots of the FLCJC complain of people
being chased away from aus.cars by trolls. Well, you see the *perfect
example* of a troll in Darren. Someone new blows in and Darren is on the
attack in an instant. You don't get more troll like than that!
>
>
> alvey
> “She's [Michalia Cash] a fucktard. If she came anywhere near me I
> would punch her.” Fraudster, 09Apr19
>
>

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On 1/03/2022 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 11:25:03 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 1/03/2022 4:38 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:51:57 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/02/2022 12:38 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My dear old uncle was so convinced.
>>>> Your dear old uncle had no idea.
>>> He could have shown you a few things....
>>>>> He said it prevented any trace of pre-ignition.
>>>> Yep. Definitely had absolutely no idea.
>>> Like this topic...
>>>>> Indeed I once had an old Volkswagen and it ran better
>>>>> in foggy weather.
>>>> Really? And what was the relative humidity on that day? :)
>>> The windows were fogging up, so I suspect close to 100%
>>>>> My uncle was so interested there were plans to
>>>>> affix a water fogger just before the carburettor. I can't remember
>>>>> what happened.
>>>> He was committed to an asylum I expect.
>>> No he was seeking a suitable one for you, with concrete walls and
>>> buxom guards with whips.
>>>> Performance output of engines changes with air *density*, in that the
>>>> denser the air the more power they make. It's all about volumetric
>>>> efficiency, and the amount of air you can pack into the cylinders. When
>>>> air density is high, you pack more air into each cylinder creating a
>>>> bigger bang and ultimately more power. This is precisely why most cars
>>>> run better at night with cooler air temperatures than they do over the
>>>> course of the day where the temperatures have been higher.
>>> Isn't that what I said? You must be a quick learner...perhaps.
>> No, humid air is less dense. Cold air is more dense. You can have warm
>> humid air and cold humid air. You can also use water to increase power,
>> but that is not the same thing as the answer to "Do cars run better in
>> humid weather?" being "yes". The only people suggesting someone
>> presented that as the answer are those with a different agenda.
>>
>> Watch the videos I linked to so you can understand the differences.
>> Ignore the trolls who aren't qualified and don't understand the science
>> which goes well beyond their level of understanding. They are only
>> interested in attacking and abusing you and others on strawmen of their
>> creation.
>>
>> They can offer *nothing* of value.
> Aside from unintended humour and some clear insights into the behaviours of
> Neanderthal society.
>

or just neanderthals really...

>
> alvey
>

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On 1/03/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 1/03/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also water
>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>
>>
>> Yeah man!
>
> ROTFL :)
>
>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in the tall
>> grass I'll wager!
>
> I'm right here, wondering what the fuck it was that you reckon you
> *knew* :)
>
>> Now I expect a cringing, crawl-across-busted-glass,
>> sackcloth-and-ashes, palm-nuzzling, lachrymose, whining apology, in
>> public, to the brash sound of distant vuvuzelas...
>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7p2fst
>> Get to it, boy!
>
> Do you now? And why would that be?
>
> You've done nothing here other than to show yourself to be completely
> wrong when you started this thread claiming that cars run better in
> humid weather,

except he didn't. he just asked a question. as usual you're long on
rhetoric and short on fact

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On 1/03/2022 4:32 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 1/3/22 15:18, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>
>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>
>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>
>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>
>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>
>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>
>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>
> I made no invite! Peter is here of his own volition. If course, that
> is way too complex for you to get your head around.
>
> Oh, and the computer works a treat too, a 100% runner under Linux at
> the moment and I'm currently typing this missive on it. The bargain of
> the century!

it certainly was!

> Currently not using the Thermaltake cable management 1000 Watt PSU, it
> weighed a ton and was way overkill for my needs. I just plugged in a
> smaller 500 Watt Thermaltake PSU I had laying around since it'll be on
> (relatively) light duties from here on in.
>

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On 1/03/2022 5:18 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 1/3/22 16:50, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 15:37:24 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/03/2022 3:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>
>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>
>>> Yeah, you made a fairly decent idiot of yourself. Oh well, there's
>>> always tomorrow....
>>>
>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>
>>> If you bothered to check and gave up being a dick for just a moment,
>>> you'd see that addressing the expressive heart of the point was exactly
>>> what was done.
>>>
>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>
>>> Generally people don't display this level of "stupid" by accident or
>>> genetics and have to dedicate a fair amount of their lives in the
>>> pursuit of it. You must work very hard at this and just *had* to have
>>> had times in the past where you considered turning pro.
>>>
>>> Dance around making an absolute *flog* of yourself all you like, but
>>> the
>>> simple arithmetic here is that you, and your uncle, have no idea what
>>> you're talking about and you can consider yourself as having been
>>> educated.
>>>
>>> Here endeth the lesson.
>>
>> I wonder if any of The Enablers have ever paused for a moment to
>> wonder why
>> it's so *very, very* important for the Fraudster to paint so many
>> people as
>> "flogs", "stupid", "dick" etc etc etc. Especially in cases like this one
>> where his hissiness is based on a blatant lie.
>
> A clear cut case of projection. He's trying to divert attention *away*
> from the fact that he is *exactly* like that - and continues to prove
> it day after day.

yep!

> FFS, he and the idiots of the FLCJC complain of people being chased
> away from aus.cars by trolls. Well, you see the *perfect example* of a
> troll in Darren. Someone new blows in and Darren is on the attack in
> an instant. You don't get more troll like than that!

and he always has done; jumps on anyone new and tries to shoo them away.
he wants to own this ng only for himself and his fawning sycophants

>>
>>
>> alvey
>> “She's [Michalia Cash] a fucktard. If she came anywhere near me I
>>   would punch her.” Fraudster, 09Apr19
>>
>
>

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On 1/3/22 17:33, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 1/03/2022 5:18 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 1/3/22 16:50, alvey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 15:37:24 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/03/2022 3:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>
>>>> Lol :)
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, you made a fairly decent idiot of yourself. Oh well, there's
>>>> always tomorrow....
>>>>
>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>>>> point.    :--)))))
>>>>
>>>> If you bothered to check and gave up being a dick for just a moment,
>>>> you'd see that addressing the expressive heart of the point was exactly
>>>> what was done.
>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>
>>>> Generally people don't display this level of "stupid" by accident or
>>>> genetics and have to dedicate a fair amount of their lives in the
>>>> pursuit of it. You must work very hard at this and just *had* to have
>>>> had times in the past where you considered turning pro.
>>>>
>>>> Dance around making an absolute *flog* of yourself all you like, but
>>>> the
>>>> simple arithmetic here is that you, and your uncle, have no idea what
>>>> you're talking about and you can consider yourself as having been
>>>> educated.
>>>>
>>>> Here endeth the lesson.
>>>
>>> I wonder if any of The Enablers have ever paused for a moment to
>>> wonder why
>>> it's so *very, very* important for the Fraudster to paint so many
>>> people as
>>> "flogs", "stupid", "dick" etc etc etc. Especially in cases like this one
>>> where his hissiness is based on a blatant lie.
>>
>> A clear cut case of projection. He's trying to divert attention *away*
>> from the fact that he is *exactly* like that - and continues to prove
>> it day after day.
>
>
> yep!
>
>
>> FFS, he and the idiots of the FLCJC complain of people being chased
>> away from aus.cars by trolls. Well, you see the *perfect example* of a
>> troll in Darren. Someone new blows in and Darren is on the attack in
>> an instant. You don't get more troll like than that!
>
>
> and he always has done; jumps on anyone new and tries to shoo them away.
> he wants to own this ng only for himself and his fawning sycophants
>
It most certainly looks that way.

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On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 17:21:24 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 1/03/2022 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 11:25:03 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/03/2022 4:38 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:51:57 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28/02/2022 12:38 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My dear old uncle was so convinced.
>>>>> Your dear old uncle had no idea.
>>>> He could have shown you a few things....
>>>>>> He said it prevented any trace of pre-ignition.
>>>>> Yep. Definitely had absolutely no idea.
>>>> Like this topic...
>>>>>> Indeed I once had an old Volkswagen and it ran better
>>>>>> in foggy weather.
>>>>> Really? And what was the relative humidity on that day? :)
>>>> The windows were fogging up, so I suspect close to 100%
>>>>>> My uncle was so interested there were plans to
>>>>>> affix a water fogger just before the carburettor. I can't remember
>>>>>> what happened.
>>>>> He was committed to an asylum I expect.
>>>> No he was seeking a suitable one for you, with concrete walls and
>>>> buxom guards with whips.
>>>>> Performance output of engines changes with air *density*, in that the
>>>>> denser the air the more power they make. It's all about volumetric
>>>>> efficiency, and the amount of air you can pack into the cylinders. When
>>>>> air density is high, you pack more air into each cylinder creating a
>>>>> bigger bang and ultimately more power. This is precisely why most cars
>>>>> run better at night with cooler air temperatures than they do over the
>>>>> course of the day where the temperatures have been higher.
>>>> Isn't that what I said? You must be a quick learner...perhaps.
>>> No, humid air is less dense. Cold air is more dense. You can have warm
>>> humid air and cold humid air. You can also use water to increase power,
>>> but that is not the same thing as the answer to "Do cars run better in
>>> humid weather?" being "yes". The only people suggesting someone
>>> presented that as the answer are those with a different agenda.
>>>
>>> Watch the videos I linked to so you can understand the differences.
>>> Ignore the trolls who aren't qualified and don't understand the science
>>> which goes well beyond their level of understanding. They are only
>>> interested in attacking and abusing you and others on strawmen of their
>>> creation.
>>>
>>> They can offer *nothing* of value.
>> Aside from unintended humour and some clear insights into the behaviours of
>> Neanderthal society.
>>
>
> or just neanderthals really...

Hmmmmm. That'd be a useful little exercise for Photoshop beginners.
Blending the heads of Fraudster and the Enablers with some pre-history
Neanderthals. Literally, it wouldn't be much of a stretch...

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On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 16:42:14 +1100, Xeno wrote:

> On 1/3/22 15:53, Daryl wrote:
>> On 1/3/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also water
>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah man!
>>
>> Yeah man what?
>> The difference between a properly engineered water injection system made
>> for a specific engine can hardly be compared to a standard engine
>> running in fog, the amount of water an engine would ingest in fog would
>> be so insignificant that it would be near impossible to measure.
>> I know of a mechanic who fitted water injection (you could buy WI kits)
>> to his Austin 1800 back in the 70's, supposedly the main benefit was it
>> keep the top of the pistons and combustion chambers cleaner back in the
>> day when fuel was dirty and engines carboned up.
>> He removed it after a few months because whilst it did keep things
>> cleaner it didn't make the engine run any better long term.
>>
>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in the tall
>>> grass I'll wager!
>>
>> There is certainly a troll lurking here but his name isn't Noddy.
>> Try and work out who it is, hint look in a mirror.
>>
> Nah, his nick is Noddy! The troll's real name is Darren Thomas Gibbens.

Newsreader: In one of the most damning comments ever directed at Darren
Fraudster of Bumhole, Victoria, he was today described as, "Troll? He's not
smart enough to be a troll.". The speaker, who could have been almost
anyone at the Michaelia Cash fundraiser, left without incident.

alvey
"That you asked about my business is perfectly rational, but that's where
your rationality ended. That you demanded to see proof of the existence
of said business is where your narcissism took over from your curiosity
as not only are you wrong to expect me to have to give you an answer,
but you steadfastly refuse to accept the answer I *have* given you,
which was "go fuck yourself"." Fraudster, 08Jul19

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On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:

>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>> water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>
>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>
>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>
>
> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20

Yes and?

On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>> water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>>
>>
>> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20
>
> Yes and?

....And it seems he thinks that makes it flammable in some way. I mean, I
know he's dumb, but *Jesus* :)

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On 1/03/2022 8:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>>> water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>>>
>>>
>>> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20
>>
>> Yes and?
>
> ...And it seems he thinks that makes it flammable in some way. I mean,
> I know he's dumb, but *Jesus* :)
>

noddy must have got religion. he keeps talking about Jesus. he might
enjoy this then .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZQxH_8raCI

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On 1/03/2022 6:11 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 16:42:14 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 1/3/22 15:53, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 1/3/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also water
>>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>>
>>>> Yeah man!
>>> Yeah man what?
>>> The difference between a properly engineered water injection system made
>>> for a specific engine can hardly be compared to a standard engine
>>> running in fog, the amount of water an engine would ingest in fog would
>>> be so insignificant that it would be near impossible to measure.
>>> I know of a mechanic who fitted water injection (you could buy WI kits)
>>> to his Austin 1800 back in the 70's, supposedly the main benefit was it
>>> keep the top of the pistons and combustion chambers cleaner back in the
>>> day when fuel was dirty and engines carboned up.
>>> He removed it after a few months because whilst it did keep things
>>> cleaner it didn't make the engine run any better long term.
>>>
>>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in the tall
>>>> grass I'll wager!
>>> There is certainly a troll lurking here but his name isn't Noddy.
>>> Try and work out who it is, hint look in a mirror.
>>>
>> Nah, his nick is Noddy! The troll's real name is Darren Thomas Gibbens.
> Newsreader: In one of the most damning comments ever directed at Darren
> Fraudster of Bumhole, Victoria, he was today described as, "Troll? He's not
> smart enough to be a troll.". The speaker, who could have been almost
> anyone at the Michaelia Cash fundraiser, left without incident.

LOL

>
>
>
> alvey
> "That you asked about my business is perfectly rational, but that's where
> your rationality ended. That you demanded to see proof of the existence
> of said business is where your narcissism took over from your curiosity
> as not only are you wrong to expect me to have to give you an answer,
> but you steadfastly refuse to accept the answer I *have* given you,
> which was "go fuck yourself"." Fraudster, 08Jul19
>
>

that says it all really..

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On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 16:40:12 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
> On 1/3/22 15:37, Noddy wrote:
> > On 1/03/2022 3:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The competition is about to get serious :)
> >>
> >> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
> >> bested in the argument stakes!
> >
> > Lol :)
> >
> >> Oh, the pity of it!
> >
> > Yeah, you made a fairly decent idiot of yourself. Oh well, there's
> > always tomorrow....
> He could have done worse Darren, he could have followed *your leaqd* and
> *invented* multiple qualifications, business ownership, land ownership
> and dog knows what else. Hell, you even invented 22+ years of membership
> of the VACC in order to bolster your bullshit tales of self
> aggrandisement but, sadly for you, it took but an email to discover the
> real truth - the VACC have never heard of you or your *claimed*
> businesses. How unsurprising!
> >
> >> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
> >> point. :--)))))
> >
> > If you bothered to check and gave up being a dick for just a moment,
> You've never managed to give up being a dick. Ingrained in you, it is!
> > you'd see that addressing the expressive heart of the point was exactly
> > what was done.
> >
> >> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
> >> return chastened and humbled.
> >
> > Generally people don't display this level of "stupid" by accident or
> > genetics and have to dedicate a fair amount of their lives in the
> > pursuit of it. You must work very hard at this and just *had* to have
> > had times in the past where you considered turning pro.
> Well, your father worked out you were dedicating your life to a *level
> of stupid* that beggared belief when you were a mere 8 years old and he
> dubbed you Noddy. Very astute was your father.
> >
> > Dance around making an absolute *flog* of yourself all you like, but the
> > simple arithmetic here is that you, and your uncle, have no idea what
> > you're talking about and you can consider yourself as having been educated.
> >
> > Here endeth the lesson.
> And still you learnt nothing!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yer *never* going to be *anything* other than a boring, repetitive, *No you* one trick pony type cunt for as long as you remain extant!..Hmmm, there *is*light at the end of the tunnel.. :)))
>
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On 1/03/2022 2:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 1/03/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 1/03/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also water
>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah man!
>>
>> ROTFL :)
>>
>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in the tall
>>> grass I'll wager!
>>
>> I'm right here, wondering what the fuck it was that you reckon you
>> *knew* :)
>>
>>> Now I expect a cringing, crawl-across-busted-glass,
>>> sackcloth-and-ashes, palm-nuzzling, lachrymose, whining apology, in
>>> public, to the brash sound of distant vuvuzelas...
>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7p2fst
>>> Get to it, boy!
>>
>> Do you now? And why would that be?
>>
>> You've done nothing here other than to show yourself to be completely
>> wrong when you started this thread claiming that cars run better in
>> humid weather,
>
>
> except he didn't. he just asked a question. as usual you're long on
> rhetoric and short on fact
>
>

According to the fraud a question mark at the end of a sentence makes it
a statement.

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On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 20:53:10 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 1/03/2022 2:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 1/03/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 1/03/2022 12:17 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also water
>>>>> vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhShcJZ3JAk
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFztpnQuPA
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah man!
>>>
>>> ROTFL :)
>>>
>>>> I knew it.  And where's that troll-of-ages Noddy?  Lurking in the tall
>>>> grass I'll wager!
>>>
>>> I'm right here, wondering what the fuck it was that you reckon you
>>> *knew* :)
>>>
>>>> Now I expect a cringing, crawl-across-busted-glass,
>>>> sackcloth-and-ashes, palm-nuzzling, lachrymose, whining apology, in
>>>> public, to the brash sound of distant vuvuzelas...
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7p2fst
>>>> Get to it, boy!
>>>
>>> Do you now? And why would that be?
>>>
>>> You've done nothing here other than to show yourself to be completely
>>> wrong when you started this thread claiming that cars run better in
>>> humid weather,
>>
>> except he didn't. he just asked a question. as usual you're long on
>> rhetoric and short on fact
>>
>
> According to the fraud a question mark at the end of a sentence makes it
> a statement.

That makes sense.
In that it's from the same processing centre as, 'Whatever I last said on a
subject is the truth'.

It's insightful that none of The Enablers picked up Fraudster obvious lie
and/or decided not to comment on it.

alvey

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On 1/03/2022 8:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 1/03/2022 4:18 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>>>> yes I thought water vapor (can) increase air density, and also
>>>>>> water vapor burns when in the cylinder, iirc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Water vapour burns? I'd like to see that.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so would I :)
>>
>>
>> here's a clue for noddy and keefy.. water is H20
>
> Yes and?

and.. what happens to it in the cylinder during ignition and combustion

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On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>
>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>
>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>
>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>> point. :--)))))
>>>
>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>
>>>
>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>
> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011. And I priced it to
> sell.
> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits. MB built in,
> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
> including Optical drive/burner. It flies!
> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same. And it was
> getting old. Just a commercial decision.
>>

This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is way
past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.

2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word processing or
media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half the size of a
tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc and 10 port usb hub
and optical drive (who uses those any more) are minimal at best.

>> He invites another idiot to the group...

My opinion has been enhanced.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 07:55:04 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:

> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>
>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>
>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>
>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>>> point. :--)))))
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>
>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011. And I priced it to
>> sell.
>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits. MB built in,
>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>> including Optical drive/burner. It flies!
>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same. And it was
>> getting old. Just a commercial decision.
>>>
>
> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is way
> past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>
> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word processing or
> media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half the size of a
> tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc and 10 port usb hub
> and optical drive (who uses those any more) are minimal at best.
>
>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>
> My opinion has been enhanced.

Shirley that should be "upgraded"?

alvey

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On 2/03/2022 8:13 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 07:55:04 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:18:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/03/2022 2:11 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The competition is about to get serious :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Noddy has succumbed to NITPICKERY which is the last resort of a troll
>>>>> bested in the argument stakes!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, the pity of it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Noddy should ape up and concern himself with expressive heart of the
>>>>> point. :--)))))
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime he'll be given time to regain his composure, and
>>>>> return chastened and humbled.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> No wonder xeno bought a computer from you. You're of the same ilk.
>>>
>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011. And I priced it to
>>> sell.
>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits. MB built in,
>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>> including Optical drive/burner. It flies!
>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same. And it was
>>> getting old. Just a commercial decision.
>>>>
>>
>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is way
>> past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>>
>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word processing or
>> media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half the size of a
>> tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc and 10 port usb hub
>> and optical drive (who uses those any more) are minimal at best.
>>
>>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>>
>> My opinion has been enhanced.
>
> Shirley that should be "upgraded"?
>

Shirley not. It's a downgrade if anything as the data transfer speed of
the enclosure over usb would be way slower than drives connected to a
motherboard. The transfer speed of the optical drive being limited as
well. Whilst the nuc will be quick with it's ssd onboard the rest of the
system limits its abilities. Using a 10 port usb hub you are bound to
have communication issues when trying to access multiple devices.

On the other hand he managed to con xeno into buying a unit that wasn't
worth the cost of the freight to ship it so he's to be congratulated for
that.

On 2/03/2022 8:55 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:

>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>> sell.
>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits.  MB built in,
>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same.   And it was
>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>
>
> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is way
> past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.

We've known for a while now that Clasener is a miserable tight-arse who
is only ever interested in basic crap.

> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word processing or
> media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half the size of a
> tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc and 10 port usb hub
> and optical drive (who uses those any more) are minimal at best.

I know a bloke who bought a NUC once, and he was banging on about it as
if it was the best thing ever invented. Turns out it wasn't, and about
all the use he gets out of it is as a movie player :)

Anyone who buys one must have *severely* limited PC requirements....

>>> He invites another idiot to the group...
>
> My opinion has been enhanced.

I don't know what's wrong with some of you people. I can pick these
fucktards within their first sentence. Y'all should be listening to me
more.... :)

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On 2/03/2022 9:26 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 2/03/2022 8:13 am, alvey wrote:

>
> Shirley not. It's a downgrade if anything as the data transfer speed of
> the enclosure over usb would be way slower than drives connected to a
> motherboard. The transfer speed of the optical drive being limited as
> well. Whilst the nuc will be quick with it's ssd onboard the rest of the
> system limits its abilities. Using a 10 port usb hub you are bound to
> have communication issues when trying to access multiple devices.
>
> On the other hand he managed to con xeno into buying a unit that wasn't
> worth the cost of the freight to ship it so he's to be congratulated for
> that.

Lol :)

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On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 09:45:01 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 2/03/2022 8:55 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 2/03/2022 6:23 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>
>>> I know about the computer; I built it in 2011.  And I priced it to
>>> sell.
>>> We upgraded to the latest NUC type with external bits.  MB built in,
>>> external 8-HDD bank, a 10-port USB3 powered hub for all accessories
>>> including Optical drive/burner.   It flies!
>>> The old one was a pain maneuvering the HDDs in and out of the tower
>>> case and took too much room, and the cards were the same.   And it was
>>> getting old.  Just a commercial decision.
>>>>
>>
>> This is too funny. For two reasons. 1. You sold xeno a box that is way
>> past eol and he was stupid enough to buy it.
>
> We've known for a while now that Clasener is a miserable tight-arse who
> is only ever interested in basic crap.

Says the hypocrite who has only bought 2nd hand cars and lives in the
boonies. How is the Navarra Fraudster? Not broken in half yet? Hey! I've
got an idea! For it's 10th birthday this year you could buy it a treehouse!
>
>> 2. you bought a nuc which are basically only good for word processing or
>> media storage. Your 8 bay hdd enclosure is about half the size of a
>> tower so your space savings when you add in the nuc and 10 port usb hub
>> and optical drive (who uses those any more) are minimal at best.
>
> I know a bloke who....

And here it comes! The previously never heard before relevant annecdote. Or
in shorthand, a lie.

You're hopeless Fraudster, just hopeless.

alvey

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