On 12/04/2022 6:52 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 1:30 am, Justin Case wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 12:50 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> And as I said, I appreciate that but no thank you.
>>>
>>> That's all it needs to be Felix, and why you're getting your kickers
>>> in a twist is a mystery.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> you didn't just say 'thanks but no thanks', you coupled it with an
>> insult by saying I wouldn't deal with you. my reaction was perfectly
>> normal. EOD.
>
> For fuck's sake Felix, my *exact* response to you was:
>
>> Thanks Felix, but no thank you. If you thought I was trying to rip you
>> off when I offered to repair your muffler then I'd rather not deal
>> with you.
>>
>> Thanks all the same.
>
> There is no hatred there. No Insult. No nothing. Just me saying "no,
> thank you" and that I'd rather not deal with people who think I'm a crook.

They don't think, they know!

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keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 12/04/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>>
>> Hey Trev,
>>
>> Don't know if this is up your alley, but I'm looking for a part for an
>> antique turntable and wondered if you could help.
>>
>> The turntable in question is a Garrard 3500 that was made in England,
>> and the part I'm after is an auto loading spindle to suit it. I recently
>> bought a "Rolls" 1970's era turntable and speaker suite for my kid as a
>> birthday present as he's showing a big interest in vinyl and would love
>> an old fashioned "auto load" record player which he thinks are cool.
>> This one that I've bought for him is in mint condition and sounds great
>> (to my rooted ears anyway) and while the auto function works it's
>> missing the auto load spindle and only has a regular short "manual" type
>> fitted which actually prevents the auto function from operating.
>
> Just to chuck in my two cents worth you really should convince him
> that automatic turntables aren't the way to go however cool they may
> appear at this point in time. The majority of them were junk even in
> their heyday and aside from the sound quality not being up to scratch
> (pun intended) they can seriously affect the life of records.
>
> If he only intends playing old (and well worn) records go for it but
> otherwise best not encourage him down that path. If he ever gets
> really keen he'll also be wanting a valve amplifier and a couple of
> Quad electrostatic speakers as well unless he finally realises that
> the base is shithouse (read absent).
>
> FWIW I gave on vinyl with the first appearance of affordable CD
> players but I'm aware there's still a lot of vinyl fans around and by
> all accounts there's some excellent turntables still available in
> today's market. If I were a vinyl fan buying records at today's
> prices I'd also be looking to record them on tape via a decent
> turntable for normal listening.
>
> OTOH I can currently buy perfectly good CDs on ebay for next to bugger
> all (even less in charity shops). Plus the fact that decent sound
> equipment has never been more affordable :)
>

**You've missed the point. Playing LPs is not about sound quality (for
the majority of adherents). It's more like owning a Model T Ford, or the
Japanese tea ceremony. The Japanese tea ceremony is not about the tea.
Same deal with LPs. It is a triumph of style over substance. In fact,
late last year I completed a repair on an old radiogram, that I
considered to be junk. The guy spent around $350.00 having me renovate
the unit. He even refused my offer of replacing the blown light globes
with LEDs. He wanted it to be original.

On 12/04/2022 7:45 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 9:29 am, Justin Case wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 7:18 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>>> **I may have one kicking around somewhere. I'll check over Easter. If
>>> I can't locate one, then, given they were manufactured in the UK,
>>> then that would be the best place to search for spare parts.
>>>
>>> FWIW: The Garrard 3500 is a POS.
>>
>>
>> depends what you're comparing it to.
>
> You seem to enjoy stating the obvious, huh? :)
>
> Trevor deals with high end audio equipment all the time and has an
> extensive background in the business which is why I asked him in the
> first place. He would know what he's talking about and I don't doubt his
> opinion at all.
>
> I didn't buy this thing because it was high end (or not). I bought it as
> it fits the criteria of being an older "retro" styled stereo that works
> okay and will fit the bill for a 15 year old's first introduction into
> older vinyl records.
>

Nothing that can ruin perfectly good vintage records "fits the bill". If
there was any truth to this fantasy you would be teaching him that auto
turntables are a bad idea. It's really for *you* though isn't it, let's
face reality here.

> As I said to Trevor, if he gets heavily into vinyl he can get himself
> something decent down the track.
>
>

Is that your dream or his? Sounds an awful lot like you're projecting
what you *wish* to be true.

Maybe you should be bolting a seat belt in that POS "truck" to, you
know, keep him safe.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 12/4/2022 10:31 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Trev,
>>>
>>> Don't know if this is up your alley, but I'm looking for a part for an
>>> antique turntable and wondered if you could help.
>>>
>>> The turntable in question is a Garrard 3500 that was made in England,
>>> and the part I'm after is an auto loading spindle to suit it. I recently
>>> bought a "Rolls" 1970's era turntable and speaker suite for my kid as a
>>> birthday present as he's showing a big interest in vinyl and would love
>>> an old fashioned "auto load" record player which he thinks are cool.
>>> This one that I've bought for him is in mint condition and sounds great
>>> (to my rooted ears anyway) and while the auto function works it's
>>> missing the auto load spindle and only has a regular short "manual" type
>>> fitted  which actually prevents the auto function from operating.
>>
>> Just to chuck in my two cents worth you really should convince him
>> that automatic turntables aren't the way to go however cool they may
>> appear at this point in time.  The majority of them were junk even in
>> their heyday and aside from the sound quality not being up to scratch
>> (pun intended) they can seriously affect the life of records.
>>
>> If he only intends playing old (and well worn) records go for it but
>> otherwise best not encourage him down that path.  If he ever gets
>> really keen he'll also be wanting a valve amplifier and a couple of
>> Quad electrostatic speakers as well unless he finally realises that
>> the base is shithouse (read absent).
>>
>> FWIW I gave on vinyl with the first appearance of affordable CD
>> players but I'm aware there's still a lot of vinyl fans around and by
>> all accounts there's some excellent turntables still available in
>> today's market.  If I were a vinyl fan buying records at today's
>> prices I'd also be looking to record them on tape via a decent
>> turntable for normal listening.
>>
>> OTOH I can currently buy perfectly good CDs on ebay for next to bugger
>> all (even less in charity shops).  Plus the fact that decent sound
>> equipment has never been more affordable   :)
>>
>
> **You've missed the point. Playing LPs is not about sound quality (for
> the majority of adherents). It's more like owning a Model T Ford, or the
> Japanese tea ceremony. The Japanese tea ceremony is not about the tea.
> Same deal with LPs. It is a triumph of style over substance. In fact,
> late last year I completed a repair on an old radiogram, that I
> considered to be junk. The guy spent around $350.00 having me renovate
> the unit. He even refused my offer of replacing the blown light globes
> with LEDs. He wanted it to be original.

When we moved house about 2.5yrs ago I gave my Garrard turntable plus
some other 1970's stereo gear including my small collection of vinyl
albums to my youngest son.
He likes the sound but I suspect that he wanted it simply because its
old therefore its "cool":-)

--
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On 12/04/2022 10:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 9:11 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 7:18 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 11/04/2022 10:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Trev,
>>>>
>>>> Don't know if this is up your alley, but I'm looking for a part for
>>>> an antique turntable and wondered if you could help.
>>>>
>>>> The turntable in question is a Garrard 3500 that was made in
>>>> England, and the part I'm after is an auto loading spindle to suit
>>>> it. I recently bought a "Rolls" 1970's era turntable and speaker
>>>> suite for my kid as a birthday present as he's showing a big
>>>> interest in vinyl and would love an old fashioned "auto load"
>>>> record player which he thinks are cool. This one that I've bought
>>>> for him is in mint condition and sounds great (to my rooted ears
>>>> anyway) and while the auto function works it's missing the auto
>>>> load spindle and only has a regular short "manual" type fitted 
>>>> which actually prevents the auto function from operating.
>>>>
>>>> What I've been able to discover is that these spindles were common
>>>> across a wide range of Garrard models, and while there is an outlet
>>>> in the US that has them in stock for something like 12 bucks, they
>>>> won't ship to Australia as the US Postal Service has a block on
>>>> Australia at the moment for some reason.
>>>>
>>>> If you know where I might find one or can recommend somewhere to
>>>> try I'd be eternally grateful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> **I may have one kicking around somewhere. I'll check over Easter.
>>> If I can't locate one, then, given they were manufactured in the UK,
>>> then that would be the best place to search for spare parts.
>>
>> Thanks Trev. I appreciate it. If you manage to find one let me know
>> here and I'll organise purchasing it from you.
>
> **If I find one, you can have it for free. Maybe you can spring for
> postage.
>
>>
>>> FWIW: The Garrard 3500 is a POS. Personally, I'd chuck it and get
>>> something decent, but I understand the desire for some people to
>>> restore them. You will need to clean out all the old, hardened
>>> grease, and re-lube with fresh stuff. Remove the idler, clean and
>>> lube the spindle. Clean the rubber surface of the idler. IPA is
>>> appropriate. Dedicated rubber cleaner is better. Metho will do in a
>>> pinch. Check the motor. It should spin freely. If not, dismantle,
>>> clean and re-lube the bearings.
>>
>> This unit has already been restored which is why I bought it.
>>
>> I appreciate that this unit isn't at the high end of the used stereo
>> market, but it's more the novelty aspect of it at the moment than the
>> quality. If he develops an ear for vinyl and wants to take it further
>> he can get something decent down the track.
>
> **OK. Makes sense. The turntable/s to look out for, with serious
> retro-cred are old Dual turntables. 1214, 1216, 1218, 1219. The last
> two digits indicate ascending levels of quality. Later models are:
> 1224, 1226, 1228, 1229 (the 1229Q was the ultimate variant and one I
> have never seen). Same deal. A 1218 is superior quality to a 1226 for
> instance, despite being older. Earlier models were 1015, 1016, 1019,
> etc (those whacky Germans). My second turntable, purchased in 1972,
> for $150.00, was a Dual 1218. In classic German tradition, it is
> likely to still be operating perfectly (assuming it has been serviced)
> today.

I have a 1214 in mint condition I keep meaning to put on eBay.

>
> The reasons:
>
> * High quality, four pole (not cheap, shitty two pole) motors.
> * Heavy, cast, dynamically balanced platters (not pressed steel,
> unbalanced ones).
> * Tone arms (in the 1218 and above) are very well designed and
> constructed) are designed for magnetic cartridges.
> * Spare parts are challenging to obtain, but available.
> * The auto mechanism is very well resolved.
>
> Another possibly is Elac. Rarer and not quite as well designed as the
> Dual, the Elac units are exceptionally robust. Made in Germany too.
>
>

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On 12/04/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> Hey Trev,
>>
>> Don't know if this is up your alley, but I'm looking for a part for an
>> antique turntable and wondered if you could help.
>>
>> The turntable in question is a Garrard 3500 that was made in England,
>> and the part I'm after is an auto loading spindle to suit it. I recently
>> bought a "Rolls" 1970's era turntable and speaker suite for my kid as a
>> birthday present as he's showing a big interest in vinyl and would love
>> an old fashioned "auto load" record player which he thinks are cool.
>> This one that I've bought for him is in mint condition and sounds great
>> (to my rooted ears anyway) and while the auto function works it's
>> missing the auto load spindle and only has a regular short "manual" type
>> fitted which actually prevents the auto function from operating.
> Just to chuck in my two cents worth you really should convince him
> that automatic turntables aren't the way to go however cool they may
> appear at this point in time. The majority of them were junk even in
> their heyday and aside from the sound quality not being up to scratch
> (pun intended) they can seriously affect the life of records.

yes that turntable has a ceramic cartridge

>
> If he only intends playing old (and well worn) records go for it but
> otherwise best not encourage him down that path.

first he needs a good turntable and magnetic cartridge with an
elliptical stylus for good sound quality and not to damage the records.

> If he ever gets
> really keen he'll also be wanting a valve amplifier

otherwise any good amp will suffice

> and a couple of
> Quad electrostatic speakers as well unless he finally realises that
> the base is shithouse (read absent).

do they still make them? plenty of other/better speakers available now

>
> FWIW I gave on vinyl with the first appearance of affordable CD
> players but I'm aware there's still a lot of vinyl fans around and by
> all accounts there's some excellent turntables still available in
> today's market. If I were a vinyl fan buying records at today's
> prices I'd also be looking to record them on tape via a decent
> turntable for normal listening.

yes recording LP's is the way to go, then just store the records

>
> OTOH I can currently buy perfectly good CDs on ebay for next to bugger
> all (even less in charity shops). Plus the fact that decent sound
> equipment has never been more affordable :)
>

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On 12/04/2022 10:28 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 8:01 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 9:45 am, Justin Case wrote:
>>> On 12/04/2022 9:27 am, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> You're an absolute *embarrassment*. You know how you stated
>>>> yesterday that "you think I'm stupid"? Well, this is a perfect
>>>> example of *why* people do. You've managed to do little here other
>>>> than to make a complete spectacle of yourself, and somehow that's
>>>> *my* fault all because I wasn't interested in taking you up on your
>>>> offer.
>>>>
>>>> You are *remarkably* fragile pal....
>>>>
>>>
>>> clocky posted *facts*.
>>
>> Did he? Which had exactly *what* to do with anything being discussed
>> here?
>>
>> If you were standing in a bar having a conversation with someone and
>> a third person walks up at random talking about rubbish that has
>> nothing at all to do with what you were talking about, would you
>> consider that to be normal?
>>
>> No, I wouldn't either :)
>>
>
> You don't have private conversations in a open *public* forum. Anyone
> can see them, anyone is free to comment at any time.
>
> You have private conversations by *email*.
>
> This is further evidence that you're not only a narcissistic sociopath
> but stupid with it!

stupid or just trolling for attention

>
>>> and all you had to do was say 'thanks' to my offer and you would
>>> have your spindle.
>>
>> But I didn't want one from you Felix. I'm sorry that you're offended
>> by that, but you need to put your big boy undies on and appreciate
>> that just because you offer something to someone doesn't mean they're
>> obligated to take you up on it.
>>
>> Seriously, you're being remarkably childish here....
>
> Read: You can't put your grudges aside for the supposed) benefit of
> your child. _That_ is the definition of "childish".

just more evidence of his (lack of) character

>
>>
>>> now you can knock yourself out trying to find one.
>>
>> Shouldn't be too hard, should it? You reckon all I need to do is look
>> on ebay and I'll find one easily :)
>>
>
> You could have had one in the mail to you by now. What could be easier?

he was just too proud to accept my help

>
>>> but save your fingers typing. your warped thinking, lies,
>>> distortions, and opinion are of no worth. (back to 'yosemite sam'
>>> for me!)
>>
>> Before you go, just take stock here for a moment and see what's
>> transpired.
>>
>> You offered a spindle. Not for me, because you wouldn't do it for me,
>> but for my kid.
>
> Very generous of him considering how *you* have treated him in the past.

yes. 'dumber than dogshit' was his latest put down iirc. talk about pkb!

>
> <snip abusive arsehole playing the victim card>
>

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On 12/04/2022 10:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 9:11 am, Noddy wrote:

>> Thanks Trev. I appreciate it. If you manage to find one let me know
>> here and I'll organise purchasing it from you.
>
> **If I find one, you can have it for free. Maybe you can spring for
> postage.

With pleasure. Just let me know if you come across one and I'll get it
organised.

>> This unit has already been restored which is why I bought it.
>>
>> I appreciate that this unit isn't at the high end of the used stereo
>> market, but it's more the novelty aspect of it at the moment than the
>> quality. If he develops an ear for vinyl and wants to take it further
>> he can get something decent down the track.
>
> **OK. Makes sense. The turntable/s to look out for, with serious
> retro-cred are old Dual turntables. 1214, 1216, 1218, 1219. The last two
> digits indicate ascending levels of quality. Later models are: 1224,
> 1226, 1228, 1229 (the 1229Q was the ultimate variant and one I have
> never seen). Same deal. A 1218 is superior quality to a 1226 for
> instance, despite being older. Earlier models were 1015, 1016, 1019, etc
> (those whacky Germans). My second turntable, purchased in 1972, for
> $150.00, was a Dual 1218. In classic German tradition, it is likely to
> still be operating perfectly (assuming it has been serviced) today.
>
> The reasons:
>
> * High quality, four pole (not cheap, shitty two pole) motors.
> * Heavy, cast, dynamically balanced platters (not pressed steel,
> unbalanced ones).
> * Tone arms (in the 1218 and above) are very well designed and
> constructed) are designed for magnetic cartridges.
> * Spare parts are challenging to obtain, but available.
> * The auto mechanism is very well resolved.
>
> Another possibly is Elac. Rarer and not quite as well designed as the
> Dual, the Elac units are exceptionally robust. Made in Germany too.

Saved for future reference, thanks.

>>> Oh and one more thing: NEVER use those spindles for LPs that are
>>> valuable. Auto turntables damage LPs.
>>
>> Yeah, I'm aware of that. The bloke who sold me the unit said exactly
>> the same thing, and I can remember the effects of them from my own youth.
>>
>> My kid has developed a love of all things 1960's and 70's, and is
>> particularly fascinated by old "cabinet style" stereograms. Especially
>> the auto loaders. This unit isn't one of those big old things as it's
>> just a turntable, but it's kinda cool, sounds great and has all the
>> "retro" features he'll like:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME99K5P
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME99K5Q
>
> **OK. Interestingly, Rolls is one of the few (the only, AFAIK) that used
> Dual turntables for some of their models. Dual turntables were
> significantly more expensive that BSR and Garrard ones. However, with a
> little dedication and some woodworking skills, you could 'hot-rod' that
> stereo with some better components. Depends on how much effort you want
> to commit. It would not be a hugely difficult job.

Not sure if this is the original turntable that shipped with the unit
when it was new. I've had a bit of a ferret around and can't find a pic
of this particular one for reference and it didn't come with any manuals
so I can't tell you if it's been retrofitted or not.

As I said, it works well and sounds great, and I'm sure he'll love it.

>> If I don't end up getting an auto spindle for it then it won't be the
>> end of the world as I'm aware that they're not good for the vinyl as
>> you say, and given that I've already given him my old albums which I
>> haven't played in years he won't want to be damaging them. But he'd
>> get a kick out of seeing the auto function in operation on his own
>> machine even if the novelty does wear off quickly.
>>
>> Thanks for your help. I greatly appreciate it.
>
> **NP. Like I said: Over Easter, I'll see what I can find.

Again, thank you very much. I really appreciate your help.

--
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--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 12/04/2022 11:23 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 10:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 9:11 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Thanks Trev. I appreciate it. If you manage to find one let me know
>>> here and I'll organise purchasing it from you.
>>
>> **If I find one, you can have it for free. Maybe you can spring for
>> postage.
>
> With pleasure. Just let me know if you come across one and I'll get it
> organised.
>
>>> This unit has already been restored which is why I bought it.
>>>
>>> I appreciate that this unit isn't at the high end of the used stereo
>>> market, but it's more the novelty aspect of it at the moment than
>>> the quality. If he develops an ear for vinyl and wants to take it
>>> further he can get something decent down the track.
>>
>> **OK. Makes sense. The turntable/s to look out for, with serious
>> retro-cred are old Dual turntables. 1214, 1216, 1218, 1219. The last
>> two digits indicate ascending levels of quality. Later models are:
>> 1224, 1226, 1228, 1229 (the 1229Q was the ultimate variant and one I
>> have never seen). Same deal. A 1218 is superior quality to a 1226 for
>> instance, despite being older. Earlier models were 1015, 1016, 1019,
>> etc (those whacky Germans). My second turntable, purchased in 1972,
>> for $150.00, was a Dual 1218. In classic German tradition, it is
>> likely to still be operating perfectly (assuming it has been
>> serviced) today.
>>
>> The reasons:
>>
>> * High quality, four pole (not cheap, shitty two pole) motors.
>> * Heavy, cast, dynamically balanced platters (not pressed steel,
>> unbalanced ones).
>> * Tone arms (in the 1218 and above) are very well designed and
>> constructed) are designed for magnetic cartridges.
>> * Spare parts are challenging to obtain, but available.
>> * The auto mechanism is very well resolved.
>>
>> Another possibly is Elac. Rarer and not quite as well designed as the
>> Dual, the Elac units are exceptionally robust. Made in Germany too.
>
> Saved for future reference, thanks.
>
>>>> Oh and one more thing: NEVER use those spindles for LPs that are
>>>> valuable. Auto turntables damage LPs.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I'm aware of that. The bloke who sold me the unit said exactly
>>> the same thing, and I can remember the effects of them from my own
>>> youth.
>>>
>>> My kid has developed a love of all things 1960's and 70's, and is
>>> particularly fascinated by old "cabinet style" stereograms.
>>> Especially the auto loaders. This unit isn't one of those big old
>>> things as it's just a turntable, but it's kinda cool, sounds great
>>> and has all the "retro" features he'll like:
>>>
>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME99K5P
>>>
>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME99K5Q
>>
>> **OK. Interestingly, Rolls is one of the few (the only, AFAIK) that
>> used Dual turntables for some of their models. Dual turntables were
>> significantly more expensive that BSR and Garrard ones. However, with
>> a little dedication and some woodworking skills, you could 'hot-rod'
>> that stereo with some better components. Depends on how much effort
>> you want to commit. It would not be a hugely difficult job.
>
> Not sure if this is the original turntable that shipped with the unit
> when it was new. I've had a bit of a ferret around and can't find a
> pic of this particular one for reference and it didn't come with any
> manuals so I can't tell you if it's been retrofitted or not.
>
> As I said, it works well and sounds great,

sounds great? methinks noddy has a hearing problem, lol

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On 12/04/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>>
>> Hey Trev,
>>
>> Don't know if this is up your alley, but I'm looking for a part for an
>> antique turntable and wondered if you could help.
>>
>> The turntable in question is a Garrard 3500 that was made in England,
>> and the part I'm after is an auto loading spindle to suit it. I recently
>> bought a "Rolls" 1970's era turntable and speaker suite for my kid as a
>> birthday present as he's showing a big interest in vinyl and would love
>> an old fashioned "auto load" record player which he thinks are cool.
>> This one that I've bought for him is in mint condition and sounds great
>> (to my rooted ears anyway) and while the auto function works it's
>> missing the auto load spindle and only has a regular short "manual" type
>> fitted which actually prevents the auto function from operating.
>
> Just to chuck in my two cents worth you really should convince him
> that automatic turntables aren't the way to go however cool they may
> appear at this point in time. The majority of them were junk even in
> their heyday and aside from the sound quality not being up to scratch
> (pun intended) they can seriously affect the life of records.
>
> If he only intends playing old (and well worn) records go for it but
> otherwise best not encourage him down that path. If he ever gets
> really keen he'll also be wanting a valve amplifier and a couple of
> Quad electrostatic speakers as well unless he finally realises that
> the base is shithouse (read absent).

I'm not pushing him in any particular direction. He's fascinated in the
mechanics of auto loading record players, and finds the whole idea
curiously amusing compared to playing his tunes on his MP3 player. He
has that kind of interest in seeing how different things were when I was
a kid his age to what he experiences today, but I think it's a novelty
rather than a dedicated idea of him wanting to do things "the old
fashioned way". I think the auto play idea will wear off quite quickly
when he sees how much of a pain in the arse it actually is, and he'll
just revert to using the turntable manually which is what he'll need to
do anyway if he wants to play individual tracks.

> FWIW I gave on vinyl with the first appearance of affordable CD
> players but I'm aware there's still a lot of vinyl fans around and by
> all accounts there's some excellent turntables still available in
> today's market. If I were a vinyl fan buying records at today's
> prices I'd also be looking to record them on tape via a decent
> turntable for normal listening.

That's the thing.

While I was at the store yesterday picking up the unit they had a good
selection of used albums, as well as some new re-issues. Knowing that he
loves my style of older music I couldn't pass up buying a copy of Pink
Floyd's "Dark side of the Moon" or Neil Young's "Harvest" which are both
albums I had originally as a kid but no longer do. They were 60 bucks
each, and at that price they won't be going on the auto loader if I
manage to find a spindle.

I've already given him my vinyl collection which I've had for years
which is mostly things like Beatles, Stones, Led Zeppelin, Credence, The
Kinks, etc, etc, and given that most of them are in average condition
thanks to spending far too many hours being played under the influence
of alcohol he can satisfy his auto loading desires with those :)

> OTOH I can currently buy perfectly good CDs on ebay for next to bugger
> all (even less in charity shops). Plus the fact that decent sound
> equipment has never been more affordable :)

Personally I don't even own decent stereo equipment these days. I used
to have a bit of Yamaha and Pioneer gear which I liked, but my hearing
is such that I could never truly get my money's worth out of anything
decent any more. My "music day" is limited to listening to digital radio
in the workshop, and when I feel like unwinding with a few tunes I have
a decent set of JBL headphones and a comfy chair which I use to listen
to digital tracks on the PC while sipping the occasional beer.

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On 12/04/2022 10:31 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:

>> OTOH I can currently buy perfectly good CDs on ebay for next to bugger
>> all (even less in charity shops).  Plus the fact that decent sound
>> equipment has never been more affordable   :)
>>
>
> **You've missed the point. Playing LPs is not about sound quality (for
> the majority of adherents). It's more like owning a Model T Ford, or the
> Japanese tea ceremony. The Japanese tea ceremony is not about the tea.
> Same deal with LPs. It is a triumph of style over substance. In fact,
> late last year I completed a repair on an old radiogram, that I
> considered to be junk. The guy spent around $350.00 having me renovate
> the unit. He even refused my offer of replacing the blown light globes
> with LEDs. He wanted it to be original.

That applies across the board to many things. I know people who have
spent many times more for "original" car parts than what it would cost
to buy a modern replacement, even though the modern replacement is
better quality and more durable.

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On 12/04/2022 10:50 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 12/4/2022 10:31 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>> **You've missed the point. Playing LPs is not about sound quality (for
>> the majority of adherents). It's more like owning a Model T Ford, or
>> the Japanese tea ceremony. The Japanese tea ceremony is not about the
>> tea. Same deal with LPs. It is a triumph of style over substance. In
>> fact, late last year I completed a repair on an old radiogram, that I
>> considered to be junk. The guy spent around $350.00 having me renovate
>> the unit. He even refused my offer of replacing the blown light globes
>> with LEDs. He wanted it to be original.
>
>
> When we moved house about 2.5yrs ago I gave my Garrard turntable plus
> some other 1970's stereo gear including my small collection of vinyl
> albums to my youngest son.
> He likes the sound but I suspect that he wanted it simply because its
> old therefore its "cool":-)

There's a fair element of that, too :)

I bought my kid a 2006 Holden Astra a few months ago off one of the
neighbours. It's a decent little car and I drive it myself on occasion
as it's registered and running fine, and while the kid likes it and
drives it around here he's already saving for a "cool" car which to him
is anything built before 1980 :)

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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 09:27:29 +1000, Noddy wrote:

snip hilarious dribble
>
> You are *remarkably* fragile pal....

Said the Fraudster. From behind his killfail. Hiding from facts. And his
many, many shortcomings.

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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:01:10 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 12/04/2022 9:45 am, Justin Case wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 9:27 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> You're an absolute *embarrassment*. You know how you stated yesterday
>>> that "you think I'm stupid"? Well, this is a perfect example of *why*
>>> people do. You've managed to do little here other than to make a
>>> complete spectacle of yourself, and somehow that's *my* fault all
>>> because I wasn't interested in taking you up on your offer.
>>>
>>> You are *remarkably* fragile pal....
>>>
>>
>> clocky posted *facts*.
>
> Did he? Which had exactly *what* to do with anything being discussed here?
>
> If you were standing in a bar having a conversation with someone and a
> third person walks up at random talking about rubbish that has nothing
> at all to do with what you were talking about, would you consider that
> to be normal?

Oh Jaysus! Not this again.

You are not in a bar Fraudster. You are a blithering idiot in a public news
group. Deal with it.

alvey

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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 09:28:36 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 12/04/2022 9:19 am, Justin Case wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 2:06 am, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Of course it was. The morally vacuous narcissistic prick trying to
>>> take the moral high ground is just laughable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> nailed it! :)
>
> ROTFL :)

Well it is nearly Easter...

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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:12:48 +1000, John_H wrote:

> Noddy wrote:
>>
>>Hey Trev,
>>
>>Don't know if this is up your alley, but I'm looking for a part for an
>>antique turntable and wondered if you could help.
>>
>>The turntable in question is a Garrard 3500 that was made in England,
>>and the part I'm after is an auto loading spindle to suit it. I recently
>>bought a "Rolls" 1970's era turntable and speaker suite for my kid as a
>>birthday present as he's showing a big interest in vinyl and would love
>>an old fashioned "auto load" record player which he thinks are cool.
>>This one that I've bought for him is in mint condition and sounds great
>>(to my rooted ears anyway) and while the auto function works it's
>>missing the auto load spindle and only has a regular short "manual" type
>>fitted which actually prevents the auto function from operating.
>
> Just to chuck in my two cents worth you really should convince him
> that automatic turntables aren't the way to go however cool they may
> appear at this point in time. The majority of them were junk even in
> their heyday and aside from the sound quality not being up to scratch
> (pun intended) they can seriously affect the life of records.
>
> If he only intends playing old (and well worn) records go for it but
> otherwise best not encourage him down that path. If he ever gets
> really keen he'll also be wanting a valve amplifier and a couple of
> Quad electrostatic speakers as well unless he finally realises that
> the base is shithouse (read absent).
>
> FWIW I gave on vinyl with the first appearance of affordable CD
> players but I'm aware there's still a lot of vinyl fans around and by
> all accounts there's some excellent turntables still available in
> today's market. If I were a vinyl fan buying records at today's
> prices I'd also be looking to record them on tape via a decent
> turntable for normal listening.
>
> OTOH I can currently buy perfectly good CDs on ebay for next to bugger
> all (even less in charity shops). Plus the fact that decent sound
> equipment has never been more affordable :)

Iow, Son of Fraudster appears to have inherited his fathers brains...

alvey

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On 12/4/2022 9:23 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 08:52:10 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 12/04/2022 1:30 am, Justin Case wrote:
>>> On 12/04/2022 12:50 am, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> And as I said, I appreciate that but no thank you.
>>>>
>>>> That's all it needs to be Felix, and why you're getting your kickers
>>>> in a twist is a mystery.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> you didn't just say 'thanks but no thanks', you coupled it with an
>>> insult by saying I wouldn't deal with you. my reaction was perfectly
>>> normal. EOD.
>>
>> For fuck's sake Felix, my *exact* response to you was:
>>
>>> Thanks Felix, but no thank you. If you thought I was trying to rip you off when I offered to repair your muffler then I'd rather not deal with you.
>>>
>>> Thanks all the same.
>>
>> There is no hatred there. No Insult. No nothing. Just me saying "no,
>> thank you" and that I'd rather not deal with people who think I'm a crook.
>
> Don't be a silly Fraudster. People don't "think" you're a crook, they
> *know* you're a crook.
>>
>> All you're doing now is trying to make yourself out to be some kind of
>> victim, and it's pathetic.
>
> That's 100% correct Fraudster. But only if it does a 180 degree turn...
>
>
>
> alvey
>
He's even admitted to having been a car salesman, a *traditionally*
dishonest occupation. The next step down from that occupation, in the
dishonesty stakes, is lawyer. Of course, it's *highly likely*, given
Darren's an inveterate liar, that he was never a car salesman at all.
After all, he claimed to have been an *apprentice* on three different
apprenticeships, a twice qualified tradesman and a business owner for 15
years - all of which have turned out to be a huge pack of *lies*.

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On 12/4/2022 9:27 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 9:06 am, Justin Case wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 2:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Pointed out some facts, ones you conveniently posted yourself.
>
>>> No, in plain English it means what he says.
>>>
>>> "Go find em yourself"
>>>
>>> <snip irrelevant>
>>>
>>
>> well said! (all of it)
>
> You're a class act really Felix, aren't you? Have a look at this
> exchange above. Jerky "points out some facts" which have nothing
> whatsoever to do with *anything* being discussed other than for it to be
> another opportunity for him to exercise his Noddy hatred, and all *you*
> can see in this is something that's "well done".
>
> You really are pathetic, the pair of you. If these auto spindles were as
> commonly available as you make them out to be you'd be rubbing my nose
> in it by putting up a number of examples of where I could easily get
> one, but as usual all we ever get from the likes of you fuckwits when
> push comes to shove is a massive goalpost shift with intelligent and
> highly supportive comments of "find it yourself".
>
> You're an absolute *embarrassment*. You know how you stated yesterday
> that "you think I'm stupid"? Well, this is a perfect example of *why*
> people do. You've managed to do little here other than to make a
> complete spectacle of yourself, and somehow that's *my* fault all
> because I wasn't interested in taking you up on your offer.
>
> You are *remarkably* fragile pal....
>
M-i-r-r-o-r ! ! !

In fact, your fragility is showing. Here's a free tip, grow some balls!

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On 12/4/2022 9:36 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 9:28 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 12/4/2022 12:03 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> As a follow up, have a read here:
>>>
>>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/consumers-fume-after-us-postal-service-suspends-australian-deliveries-20211001-p58wb8.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's old news that's been going on longer than my experience
>>> suggests, and while I would think that it's slowly returning to
>>> normal there are clearly still some businesses affected by it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> My wife wants a book from the USA, can't get it via normal postage for
>> the same reason but international couriers such as DHL will ship it
>> but the cost is insane, can't remember the exact numbers but shipping
>> is something like double the price of the book.
>> She had it sent to the address of a mates mother in LA but still no
>> luck getting it shipped here at a reasonable price.
>
> It's certainly frustrating.
>
> I ordered a new forward tilt bonnet mechanism for my F-100 a few months
> ago which was something like 300 bucks US, and another hundred for
> postage. Paid for it, got all the automated emails saying everything was
> cool with an expected delivery date only for it to be cancelled the next
> say with the seller saying USPS won't ship to Australia. He wasn't
> interested in dealing with another shipping company, so I looked around
> for one through someone else as there are many companies selling them.
>
> I could find plenty who were happy to ship through international
> couriers, but then the shipping price went from a hundred bucks to
> nearly 400 bucks which makes it absolutely ridiculous :)
>
> Just like this auto spindle I'm chasing. There's a few people in the US
> selling them on ebay, but anyone who is willing to ship through a
> courier is charging massive postage fees. 22 bucks for the spindle, and
> almost a hundred to ship it.
>
That's life under Covid, get used to it. FWIW, it has always been
expensive shipping stuff from the US. That's why I do most of my
purchasing from the UK.

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On 12/4/2022 9:45 am, Justin Case wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 9:27 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 9:06 am, Justin Case wrote:
>>> On 12/04/2022 2:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> Pointed out some facts, ones you conveniently posted yourself.
>>
>>>> No, in plain English it means what he says.
>>>>
>>>> "Go find em yourself"
>>>>
>>>> <snip irrelevant>
>>>>
>>>
>>> well said! (all of it)
>>
>> You're a class act really Felix, aren't you? Have a look at this
>> exchange above. Jerky "points out some facts" which have nothing
>> whatsoever to do with *anything* being discussed other than for it to
>> be another opportunity for him to exercise his Noddy hatred, and all
>> *you* can see in this is something that's "well done".
>>
>> You really are pathetic, the pair of you. If these auto spindles were
>> as commonly available as you make them out to be you'd be rubbing my
>> nose in it by putting up a number of examples of where I could easily
>> get one, but as usual all we ever get from the likes of you fuckwits
>> when push comes to shove is a massive goalpost shift with intelligent
>> and highly supportive comments of "find it yourself".
>>
>> You're an absolute *embarrassment*. You know how you stated yesterday
>> that "you think I'm stupid"? Well, this is a perfect example of *why*
>> people do. You've managed to do little here other than to make a
>> complete spectacle of yourself, and somehow that's *my* fault all
>> because I wasn't interested in taking you up on your offer.
>>
>> You are *remarkably* fragile pal....
>>
>
> clocky posted *facts*.  and all you had to do was say 'thanks' to my
> offer and you would have your spindle. now you can knock yourself out

For sure!

> trying to find one. but save your fingers typing. your warped thinking,
> lies, distortions, and opinion are of no worth. (back to 'yosemite sam'
> for me!)
>
>
You know, it's quite the bit of irony really. Darren accuses me of
poisoning threads but, in the ultimate piece of irony, here he is
*poisoning his own thread* after the *first reasonable response* which
was also the *first response*. Wonder if the FLCJC are going to comment
on this?

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On 11/4/2022 11:39 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/04/2022 11:26 pm, Justin Case wrote:
>> On 11/04/2022 10:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> If you know where I might find one or can recommend somewhere to try
>>> I'd be eternally grateful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have them. send your address to noddy@ausnet.info and I'll send you
>> one. I'll do it for your son, not for you.
>
> Thanks Felix, but no thank you. If you thought I was trying to rip you
> off when I offered to repair your muffler then I'd rather not deal with
> you.
>
> Thanks all the same.
>
Aw gee, such a sensitive little petal!

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On 12/4/2022 12:40 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 12:32 am, Justin Case wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 12:29 am, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Well said felix. Not only does he not care enough about his kid to
>>> put a seat belt on him as he is legally required to do, he doesn't
>>> care enough to put his infantile grudges aside either.
>>>
>>> Pathetic really.
>>>
>>
>> sure is!
>
> Really? So you can make 100 posts a month calling me a "fraud", a "liar"
> and whatever else you care to invent, yet you make one offer to help and

Hey Darren, you are the one who *invented* your trade career, including
3 apprenticeships, two trade qualifications and 15 years of business
ownership. Since all are fake and fraudulent, anyone and everyone is
fully *justified* in calling you a *fraud*, a *liar* and whatever other
appropriate *epithet* comes to mind.

> all that's just supposed to be forgotten in an instant and we're best
> buddies?
>
> For fuck's sake. How many unicorns do you have parked in your garage? :)

Your *shed* is full of them. Are you breeding them or what?
>
> What's "pathetic" is that it doesn't matter *what* I do or say around
> here, it only ever becomes yet *another* excuse for the no life losers
> to fire up with there incessant bullshit just like what's going on here.

The no life loser here is you Darren. You had to compensate for being a
no life loser by *inventing* a career in automotive.
>
> Oh, and Felix, just to give you an idea of how completely fucking
> clueless your buddy here is, Seat belts in Australia never became
> compulsory until 1969 for front seat passengers, and 1971 for all seats.
>
> My truck was built in 1956. Do the math.....

If seat belts are *fitted*, they *must be worn*, regardless of when the
vehicle was built or whether they were an OEM fitment. If seatbelts are
retrofitted on a pre-1969 vehicle, you either wear them or remove them
from the vehicle. There is no *legal* alternative.

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On 12/4/2022 12:55 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 12:47 am, Justin Case wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 12:34 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Trust Jerky to mouth off about something that has nothing whatsoever
>>> to do with him, huh? :)
>>
>>
>> it's a public discussion forum idiot. you never seem to get that
>
> I get it just fine Felix. What *you* seem to miss is that regardless of
> whatever's being discussed it *always* descends into the same old "we
> hate Noddy" bullshit and it's *always* the same people who start it off.

We just hate your attitude and your *lies* Darren. If you weren't such a
liar *and* you didn't hang shit on anybody who didn't agree with you,
there wouldn't be an issue. All you are getting now is what you've dealt
out to others for *decades*, otherwise known as *return fire*. Deal with it!
>
> Just like Jerky did here. He added *nothing* to this conversation other
> than to use it as an excuse to go off on *another* repetitive "Noddy"
> rant....
>
>>> If you're still in a generous mood Felix, fire off a couple of ebay
>>> links to local sellers who have one. I'd appreciate that.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> nah, get fucked. the mood has gone. go find em yourself.
>
> So that would be "No, there isn't any" then, just like I'd *already*
> discovered which led me to pose my original question to Trev in the
> first place :)
>
> Congratulations Felix. This is yet *another* example of you proving
> yourself to be less than smart.
>
>

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On 12/04/2022 9:41 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Trev,
>>>
>>> Don't know if this is up your alley, but I'm looking for a part for an
>>> antique turntable and wondered if you could help.
>>>
>>> The turntable in question is a Garrard 3500 that was made in England,
>>> and the part I'm after is an auto loading spindle to suit it. I recently
>>> bought a "Rolls" 1970's era turntable and speaker suite for my kid as a
>>> birthday present as he's showing a big interest in vinyl and would love
>>> an old fashioned "auto load" record player which he thinks are cool.
>>> This one that I've bought for him is in mint condition and sounds great
>>> (to my rooted ears anyway) and while the auto function works it's
>>> missing the auto load spindle and only has a regular short "manual" type
>>> fitted  which actually prevents the auto function from operating.
>>
>> Just to chuck in my two cents worth you really should convince him
>> that automatic turntables aren't the way to go however cool they may
>> appear at this point in time.  The majority of them were junk even in
>> their heyday and aside from the sound quality not being up to scratch
>> (pun intended) they can seriously affect the life of records.
>>
>> If he only intends playing old (and well worn) records go for it but
>> otherwise best not encourage him down that path.  If he ever gets
>> really keen he'll also be wanting a valve amplifier and a couple of
>> Quad electrostatic speakers as well unless he finally realises that
>> the base is shithouse (read absent).
>
> I'm not pushing him in any particular direction.

Bet you have.

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On 12/04/2022 9:38 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 11:23 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 12/04/2022 10:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 12/04/2022 9:11 am, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> Thanks Trev. I appreciate it. If you manage to find one let me know
>>>> here and I'll organise purchasing it from you.
>>>
>>> **If I find one, you can have it for free. Maybe you can spring for
>>> postage.
>>
>> With pleasure. Just let me know if you come across one and I'll get it
>> organised.
>>
>>>> This unit has already been restored which is why I bought it.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate that this unit isn't at the high end of the used stereo
>>>> market, but it's more the novelty aspect of it at the moment than
>>>> the quality. If he develops an ear for vinyl and wants to take it
>>>> further he can get something decent down the track.
>>>
>>> **OK. Makes sense. The turntable/s to look out for, with serious
>>> retro-cred are old Dual turntables. 1214, 1216, 1218, 1219. The last
>>> two digits indicate ascending levels of quality. Later models are:
>>> 1224, 1226, 1228, 1229 (the 1229Q was the ultimate variant and one I
>>> have never seen). Same deal. A 1218 is superior quality to a 1226 for
>>> instance, despite being older. Earlier models were 1015, 1016, 1019,
>>> etc (those whacky Germans). My second turntable, purchased in 1972,
>>> for $150.00, was a Dual 1218. In classic German tradition, it is
>>> likely to still be operating perfectly (assuming it has been
>>> serviced) today.
>>>
>>> The reasons:
>>>
>>> * High quality, four pole (not cheap, shitty two pole) motors.
>>> * Heavy, cast, dynamically balanced platters (not pressed steel,
>>> unbalanced ones).
>>> * Tone arms (in the 1218 and above) are very well designed and
>>> constructed) are designed for magnetic cartridges.
>>> * Spare parts are challenging to obtain, but available.
>>> * The auto mechanism is very well resolved.
>>>
>>> Another possibly is Elac. Rarer and not quite as well designed as the
>>> Dual, the Elac units are exceptionally robust. Made in Germany too.
>>
>> Saved for future reference, thanks.
>>
>>>>> Oh and one more thing: NEVER use those spindles for LPs that are
>>>>> valuable. Auto turntables damage LPs.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I'm aware of that. The bloke who sold me the unit said exactly
>>>> the same thing, and I can remember the effects of them from my own
>>>> youth.
>>>>
>>>> My kid has developed a love of all things 1960's and 70's, and is
>>>> particularly fascinated by old "cabinet style" stereograms.
>>>> Especially the auto loaders. This unit isn't one of those big old
>>>> things as it's just a turntable, but it's kinda cool, sounds great
>>>> and has all the "retro" features he'll like:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME99K5P
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME99K5Q
>>>
>>> **OK. Interestingly, Rolls is one of the few (the only, AFAIK) that
>>> used Dual turntables for some of their models. Dual turntables were
>>> significantly more expensive that BSR and Garrard ones. However, with
>>> a little dedication and some woodworking skills, you could 'hot-rod'
>>> that stereo with some better components. Depends on how much effort
>>> you want to commit. It would not be a hugely difficult job.
>>
>> Not sure if this is the original turntable that shipped with the unit
>> when it was new. I've had a bit of a ferret around and can't find a
>> pic of this particular one for reference and it didn't come with any
>> manuals so I can't tell you if it's been retrofitted or not.
>>
>> As I said, it works well and sounds great,
>
>
> sounds great? methinks noddy has a hearing problem, lol
>
>

First he claims his hearing his shot, now he says it sounds great.

How could he possibly know?

Notice how nice he can be when he wants something? Typical
narcissist/sociopath behaviour... he ticks every box.

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