Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
>> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
>> >> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> >> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
>> >> >> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> >> >> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
>> >> >> >>> Rod Speed wrote
>> >>
>> >> >> >>>> Not even possible with an iphone.
>> >>
>> >> >> >>> iPhones lump of shit, hackers can nowhack them even when
>> >> >> >>> not turned on.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> More of your mindless pig ignorant shit and lies.
>> >>
>> >> >> > Let me educate you
>> >>
>> >> >> Your shit and lies never educates anyone.
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5q4vj/malware-can-be-loaded-even-onto-phones-that-are-turned-off-researchers-show#:~:text=New%20iPhones%20can%20be%20located,could%20take%20advantage%20of%20that.
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> Just because some stupid lying fuckwit claims something...
>> >>
>> >> >> Pity about this bit
>> >>
>> >> >> the researchers point out in the paper, hackers
>> >> >> would need to first hack and jailbreak the iPhone
>> >>
>> >> >> Which isn't even possible with the iphone turned off FUCKWIT.
>> >>
>> >> > Of course not
>> >>
>> >> So it isnt even possible to load anything onto the iphone when its
>> >> off, fuckwit.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

On Fri, 20 May 2022 22:05:57 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

> Arindam Banerjee wrote on 18/5/22 11:51 am:
>> On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 10:30:46 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee
>> wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>> Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandhi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
>>> time, sole god among lotsa devils,
>>> who can only hope that Albo will go for the HTN. He has mentioned
>>> renewables, he has mentioned transmission, so he needs to put those
>>> two together for a great energy policy worthy of the best leftist
>>> sentiments.
>> With hydrogen and fuel cells and supercapacitors, we will have
>> electricity without batteries. No more stupid Tesla cars. Hydrogen
>> cars will be far far better. When hydrogen will be universally
>> available cheaply that is, and will happen when the HTN happens.
>
> Aren't 'supercapacitors' little more than big, efficient, Batteries??

Nope, the technology is very different.

On Fri, 20 May 2022 22:38:57 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 20 May 2022 at 22:06:00 UTC+10, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Arindam Banerjee wrote on 18/5/22 11:51 am:
>> > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 10:30:46 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee
>> > wrote:
>> <Snip>
>> >> Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandhi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
>> >> time, sole god among lotsa devils,
>> >>
>> >> who can only hope that Albo will go for the HTN. He has mentioned
>> >> renewables, he has mentioned transmission, so he needs to put those
>> >> two together for a great energy policy worthy of the best leftist
>> >> sentiments.
>> >
>> > With hydrogen and fuel cells and supercapacitors, we will have
>> > electricity without batteries. No more stupid Tesla cars. Hydrogen
>> > cars will be far far better. When hydrogen will be universally
>> > available cheaply that is, and will happen when the HTN happens.
>> Aren't 'supercapacitors' little more than big, efficient, Batteries??
> Unlike batteries, they are made of very thin metal and plastic sheets,
> so far more environmentally lasting and friendly.
> They can charge and discharge much faster, depending upon the circuit
> resistance.
> They are much safer and far more reliable and non-polluting than
> batteries.
> Batteries are more compact for energy storage, and that is their great
> advantage.
> When volume is not a consideration, supercaps are better.
> They are used in buses and trucks that run on electricity in China, in
> conjunction with batteries.

> Hydrogen, fuel cells, supercaps are the future,

Bullshit.

> as stated by the engineers in ICEMS 2014.

Just because some self interested fool claims something...

> But they said it will be around 2050 or so. One generation away, with
> better availability of H.

Taint gunna happen, you watch.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

I can see on your web cam that you are furiously grovelling
towards Mecca in a desperate attempt to ensure that Albo
gets politically flushed where he belongs.

On Sat, 21 May 2022 02:50:49 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 May 2022 17:14:27 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Mattb wrote on 7/5/22 4:20 am:
>>> On Fri, 6 May 2022 20:07:33 +1000, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>> Mattb wrote on 6/5/22 1:44 am:
>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2022 14:25:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> RUBBISH You as in Australia are dumb'ed down by fakenews media
>>>>>> Censorship by your "Ministry of truth" https://ibb.co/2gh0KNt
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not in OZ, and I do not have Australian citizenship. Pure
>>>>> blooded American. Ordog and Fran are the averages for OZ.
>>>>
>>>> "Pure blooded American."?? Which part of America do you come from??
>>>> Argentina?? Brazil?? Canada??
>>>
>>> My ancestors were more like the middle current US territories. Been
>>> there for thousands of years before theh coming of the illegal
>>> immigrants.
>>
>> The point that I was trying to make was that native Argentineans are
>> 'Pure blooded American' as are native Brazilians and native Canadians
>> (e.g. First Nations, Inuit, Metis).
>>
>> So many U.S. of A'ians seem to think 'America' begins and ends with 'the
>> Lower 48'!!
>
> No what we think is that after 15K or more years we are about as
> American as there is. You can use this argument for all the peoples
> of all the countries except where the original man came from.

There was no original man, we evolved and there were Neanderthals too.

On Sat, 21 May 2022 04:24:40 +1000, %% <%%@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 May 2022 02:50:49 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 17:14:27 +1000, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb wrote on 7/5/22 4:20 am:
>>>> On Fri, 6 May 2022 20:07:33 +1000, Daniel65
>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>> Mattb wrote on 6/5/22 1:44 am:
>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2022 14:25:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> RUBBISH You as in Australia are dumb'ed down by fakenews media
>>>>>>> Censorship by your "Ministry of truth" https://ibb.co/2gh0KNt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not in OZ, and I do not have Australian citizenship. Pure
>>>>>> blooded American. Ordog and Fran are the averages for OZ.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Pure blooded American."?? Which part of America do you come from??
>>>>> Argentina?? Brazil?? Canada??
>>>>
>>>> My ancestors were more like the middle current US territories. Been
>>>> there for thousands of years before theh coming of the illegal
>>>> immigrants.
>>>
>>> The point that I was trying to make was that native Argentineans are
>>> 'Pure blooded American' as are native Brazilians and native Canadians
>>> (e.g. First Nations, Inuit, Metis).
>>>
>>> So many U.S. of A'ians seem to think 'America' begins and ends with 'the
>>> Lower 48'!!
>>
>> No what we think is that after 15K or more years we are about as
>> American as there is. You can use this argument for all the peoples
>> of all the countries except where the original man came from.
>
>There was no original man, we evolved and there were Neanderthals too.

Then those that evolved were all over the earth and not in small
areas? please don't tell me Rod you are one of those Fundamentalist
atheist?

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On Sat, 21 May 2022 05:14:48 +1000, dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 22:18:08 +1000, dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> I don't need to reply further because you ignored the historical
>>>>>> context of
>>>>>> a Syphilis pandemic would obviously have such a reasoned cause as
>>>>>> probably known to Freud ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I won't pander to your narcissistic self justification--you were
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I posited that the "Victorian sexual morality" was a response to the
>>>>>> historical reality that reasonably some 60 - 80% of Londoners within
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 18th century might have a sexually transmitted disease.
>>>>
>>>>> And we know from Captain Cook's travel diaries that there wasn't
>>>>> sufficient
>>>>> medical supplies on the ship to treat the rampant sexual diseases
>>>>> amongst
>>>>> the sailors and throughout the pacific islands who prostituted even
>>>>> their
>>>>> wives.
>>>>
>>>> They weren't prostituted, they had different ideas about fucking.
>>>>
>>>> So did Venice, Florence, and Milan as can be seen in
>>>> Sabatini, Rafael. The Life of Cesare Borgia: Biography of the Prince
>>>> (Kindle Location 108). e-artnow. Kindle Edition.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Captain Cook took a bucket of nails (the dolphin had been rendered
>>> unseaworthy by such removal)
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
> You exhibit rationality problems which if persistent might be considered
> a
> psychosis...

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

> "They continued to pursue the women, who typically were willing;

So it wasn't prostitution, fuckwit.

> the women also might have been exploited by their husbands,who wanted
> nails and other items the sailors offered.

And it was well known that plenty of them were very happy
to nbe fucked without anything being offered to them.

> Cook's efforts to confine diseased sailors
> to the ship ultimately were pointless, and he was pained to see how they
> spread sickness to the natives. On future voyages, he would try harder to
> prevent them from going ashore, but nothing worked.

Hardly surprising given that the natives were so keen on fucking.

> Lacking natural
> resistance, the Polynesians soon suffered epidemics that wiped out
> shocking
> percentages of the populations of several islands."

Separate matter entirely to whether prostitution was involved.

> <https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Captain+Cook%3A+Explorer+of+the+enlightenment.-a0503273342>
>
>
>>
>>> so that the sailors could exchange them for
>>> sexual favours--prostitution.
>>
>> Those fuckers stole anything that wasn't nailed down.
>>
>
>

On Fri, 20 May 2022 09:47:07 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:10:30 +1000, Fran
><gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 20/05/2022 5:19 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote on 7/5/22 4:06 pm:
>>
>>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where
>>>> it belongs>
>>>
>>> Your definition of the word 'reams' needs working on!! One line
>>> containing eight words would not meant what most people would consider
>>> 'reams'!!
>>
>>LOL. Yep. Perhaps he means "reams" in the sense that he's put a 3 year
>>old to work to ream a hole? Certainly the sort of hole Roddles can ream
>>is about as effective as that of a 3 year old.
>
> We agree on something, Hell is freezing over.
>
Been a Satanic Portal over the White House since unelected Joe Biden
stole the election!!! Visible with the White house cameras
<https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1525455426099322880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1525455426099322880%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fviral%2Froger-stone-satanic-portal-above-white-house%2F>
https://tinyurl.com/y5s58sxk
“There is a satanic portal above the WH, you can see it day and night
... it must be closed, and it will be closed by prayer .. It popped up
when Joe Biden became president, and it will be closed before he
leaves.”
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Sat, 21 May 2022 07:12:29 +1000, dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:

> My reasonable conclusion as a "proposition of power which is assertedby
> a larger population having a prevalence of a sexual disease"

Try that again in english, even google translate doesnt do gobbledegook
yet.

> is a natural intuition drawn from the historical context itself.

Ditto.

> Which then doesn't need a coerced justification of gender based political
> diatribe.

You wouldn't know what a gender based political diatribe was if it bit you
on your lard arse.

> It's much like asking if Boris was teleported to 18 century London would
> he
> have girded loins and be of sound mind since he has a "Let them eat cake"
> attitude...

Bullshit he has.

> YOUTUBE: "Let Them Eat Cake - The Pox"
>
> <https://youtu.be/5yWJKi0UOwQ>

Just because some fool claims something...

> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't need to reply further because you ignored the historical
>>> context of
>>> a Syphilis pandemic would obviously have such a reasoned cause as
>>> probably known to Freud ...
>>>
>>> And I won't pander to your narcissistic self justification--you were in
>>> error.
>>>
>>> I posited that the "Victorian sexual morality" was a response to the
>>> historical reality that reasonably some 60 - 80% of Londoners within
>>> the
>>> 18th century might have a sexually transmitted disease.
>>
>> And we know from Captain Cook's travel diaries that there wasn't
>> sufficient
>> medical supplies on the ship to treat the rampant sexual diseases
>> amongst
>> the sailors and throughout the pacific islands who prostituted even
>> their
>> wives.
>>
>>>
>>> That was the basis of my claim a "vagina with teeth" is a proposition
>>> of
>>> power which is asserted by a larger population having a prevalence of
>>> disease
>>>
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> Surely Sigmund Freud was a student of history
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>> It might be more correct to suggest that the VICTORIAN(20 June 1837 –
>>>>> 22 Jan 1901) era attitudes are a responseto the sexual disease and
>>>>> deprivations of the age prior.
>>>>
>>>> Not really. Just read
>>>> Lock, Joan. Scotland Yard Casebook (p. 204). Lume Books.
>>>> Interesting that quite a few of the toffs were into quite literally
>>>> whipping and torturing children in organised events. Hard
>>>> to see that that could be due to the sexual disease and
>>>> deprivations of the age prior.
>>>>
>>>>> If one in five persons within London had Syphilis and a far greater
>>>>> number had gonorrhea or chlamydia then it is reasonable to
>>>>> concludethat
>>>>> between 3 / 5th (60%) to 4 / 5th (80%) percent of the population
>>>>> possessed a long term venereal disease and such professional
>>>>> knowledge
>>>>> would no doubt have permeated amongst the intelligentsia as to view a
>>>>> "more rigorous form of Victorian sexual morality than England" as
>>>>> being
>>>>> prudent.
>>>>
>>>> The reality is that Victorian sexual morality
>>>> was much more just a fascade than reality.
>>>>
>>>>> Freud lived and worked in Vienna, having set up his clinical practice
>>>>> there in 1886. In 1938, Freud left Austria to escape Nazi
>>>>> persecution.
>>>>> He died in exile in the United Kingdom in 1939--It is not for me to
>>>>> extrapolate or research whether his association with the UK was
>>>>> before
>>>>> 1938 entirely non-existent.
>>>>
>>>> But it is clear from his biographys that before 1938 entirely
>>>> non-existent.
>>>>
>>>>> His Five Lectures on Psychoanalysis and Civilization and its
>>>>> Discontents
>>>>> belong to two distinct phases of Freud’s thought—a thought which was
>>>>> always changing, expanding, and being revised , and which has as many
>>>>> discontinuities as continuities. Both texts rest written from Freud’s
>>>>> basic psychoanalytic perspective; each reflects the general
>>>>> *historical*, philosophical, and scientific movements in which Freud
>>>>> found himself when he developed psychoanalysis.
>>>>
>>>>> Freud’s Austria of the second half of the nineteenth century was
>>>>> characterized by an even more rigorous form of Victorian sexual
>>>>> morality
>>>>> than England, whose sexual delicacy and frigidity is often
>>>>> caricatured.
>>>>
>>>> Even that isn't clear at all.
>>>>
>>>>> This rigorous sexual morality did not, however,prevent Victorians
>>>>> from
>>>>> speaking about sexuality.
>>>>
>>>> And doing it with children in spades.
>>>>
>>>>> The large, urban, professional middle class—the bourgeoisie—had an
>>>>> intense moral preoccupation with sexuality, particularly in women and
>>>>> children. Their sexual interests, and sexual knowledge, were
>>>>> understood
>>>>> to be naturally limited; however, in the case of exceptions, this
>>>>> interest and knowledge were carefully regulated.
>>>>
>>>> Not really.
>>>>
>>>>> Young women were expected to be chaste before marriage;
>>>>
>>>> Nothing unusual about that.
>>>>
>>>>> and the private sexual experimentation of children and
>>>>> adolescents—for
>>>>> example, masturbation—were assiduously suppressed.
>>>>
>>>> Thats bullshit with the dregs of their society.
>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, a *growing* *knowledge* *of* *sexual* *diseases*,
>>>>> *like*
>>>>> *syphilis*, created, in the public mind, an association between
>>>>> *sexual*
>>>>> *promiscuity* *and* *catastrophic* *epidemics*. Sexuality not only
>>>>> needed to be regulatedby personal morality, or by the vigilance of
>>>>> the
>>>>> family, but, since it could affect entire populations, was a
>>>>> political
>>>>> and social concern.
>>>>
>>>> But the reality is that raping of children and servants was rife.
>>>>
>>>>> At the same time the nascent field of sexology was developing. A
>>>>> number
>>>>> of medical researchers, like Havelock Ellis and Richard von
>>>>> Krafft-Ebing—whom Feud knew and who publicly commented on one of
>>>>> Freud’s
>>>>> earliest papers—gave detailed and meticulous accounts of the forms
>>>>> and
>>>>> varieties of sexual behaviors and identities, regardless of their
>>>>> rarity
>>>>> or apparent perversity.
>>>>
>>>> And with Ellis, showed that it was nothing even remotely like rare.
>>>>
>>>>> They also tried to connect facts about sexuality to other facts,
>>>>> which
>>>>> had no self-evident relationship to sexuality; they asked, for
>>>>> example,
>>>>> how sexuality relates to class,
>>>>
>>>> It was well known that the dregs fucked like rabbits and
>>>> that abortion was rife.
>>>>
>>>>> or how sexuality relates to criminality.
>>>>
>>>> Thats more complicated given that what was illegal changed so much.
>>>>
>>>>> The late nineteenth century was, therefore, characterized by an
>>>>> interesting constellation of trends: a personal, familial, and
>>>>> political
>>>>> regulation of sexuality, on the one hand, and a proliferation of
>>>>> scientific writing which showed how that problematic sexuality
>>>>> nevertheless had a secure and extensive place in human nature,
>>>>
>>>> Corse it did.
>>>>
>>>>> on the other hand. This constellation served as an auspicious context
>>>>> for Freud to develop his theories. Freud described how all kinds of
>>>>> unusual, or “perverse,” sexual desires dominate the mind—in
>>>>> children, in
>>>>> neurotic adults, but also in normal adults. Freud also showed how the
>>>>> mind finds itself in an irrevocable conflict with its own sexuality:
>>>>> how
>>>>> it fears its sexuality, and tries to avoid and eliminate it, or, most
>>>>> importantly, how it tries to forget it, or remove it from conscious
>>>>> awareness.
>>>>
>>>> Thats silly with the dregs of society that just got on with fucking
>>>> like
>>>> rabbits.
>>>>
>>>>> For Freud, this meant that unusual, “perverse” sexuality had a
>>>>> peculiar
>>>>> fate. Regulated by morality, removed from conscious awareness, but
>>>>> still
>>>>> very much extant, it became “unconscious”: no longer under the
>>>>> control
>>>>> of a person’s self-conscious and voluntary choices, it manifested in
>>>>> a
>>>>> person’s involuntary actions, like mistakes and slips of the
>>>>> tongues, as
>>>>> well as in mental pathologies, like obsession, paranoia, hysteria,
>>>>> and
>>>>> anxiety.
>>>>
>>>> That is all just another mindless wank.
>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.college.columbia.edu/core/content/writings-sigmund-freud/context>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Sat, 21 May 2022 07:34:08 +1000, dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:

> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> My reasonable conclusion as a "proposition of power which is asserted
>> by a
>> larger population having a prevalence of a sexual disease" is a natural
>> intuition drawn from the historical context itself.
>>
>> Which then doesn't need a coerced justification of gender based
>> political
>> diatribe.
>>
>> It's much like asking if Boris was teleported to 18 century London
>> would he
>> have girded loins and be of sound mind since he has a "Let them eat
>> cake"
>> attitude...
>>
>> YOUTUBE: "Let Them Eat Cake - The Pox"
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/5yWJKi0UOwQ>
>>
>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't need to reply further because you ignored the historical
>>>> context of
>>>> a Syphilis pandemic would obviously have such a reasoned cause as
>>>> probably known to Freud ...
>>>>
>>>> And I won't pander to your narcissistic self justification--you were
>>>> in
>>>> error.
>>>>
>>>> I posited that the "Victorian sexual morality" was a response to the
>>>> historical reality that reasonably some 60 - 80% of Londoners within
>>>> the
>>>> 18th century might have a sexually transmitted disease.
>>>
>>> And we know from Captain Cook's travel diaries that there wasn't
>>> sufficient
>>> medical supplies on the ship to treat the rampant sexual diseases
>>> amongst
>>> the sailors and throughout the pacific islands who prostituted even
>>> their
>>> wives.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That was the basis of my claim a "vagina with teeth" is a proposition
>>>> of
>>>> power which is asserted by a larger population having a prevalence of
>>>> disease
>>>>
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surely Sigmund Freud was a student of history
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It might be more correct to suggest that the VICTORIAN(20 June 1837
>>>>>> –
>>>>>> 22 Jan 1901) era attitudes are a responseto the sexual disease and
>>>>>> deprivations of the age prior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really. Just read
>>>>> Lock, Joan. Scotland Yard Casebook (p. 204). Lume Books.
>>>>> Interesting that quite a few of the toffs were into quite literally
>>>>> whipping and torturing children in organised events. Hard
>>>>> to see that that could be due to the sexual disease and
>>>>> deprivations of the age prior.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If one in five persons within London had Syphilis and a far greater
>>>>>> number had gonorrhea or chlamydia then it is reasonable to
>>>>>> concludethat
>>>>>> between 3 / 5th (60%) to 4 / 5th (80%) percent of the population
>>>>>> possessed a long term venereal disease and such professional
>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>> would no doubt have permeated amongst the intelligentsia as to view
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> "more rigorous form of Victorian sexual morality than England" as
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> prudent.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reality is that Victorian sexual morality
>>>>> was much more just a façade than reality.

> If Victorian sexual morality was just a façade

I didn't say that it was just a facade.

> then it wasn't a remedy for
> the historical reality of the century prior where "between 3 / 5th (60%)
> to 4 / 5th (80%) percent of the population possessed a long term
> venereal
> disease

It hasn't been established that that was reality, just CLAIMED
and it is very bloodly unlikely that it was anything like reality.

> and a "more rigorous form of Victorian sexual morality than
> England" was being prudent.

Only if it was actually effective and there is no evidence that it was.

> Try to form logical thought flow and rational conclusion.

Something you can never manage.

> The ipso facto
> of such an assertion is that must have been a knowledge of the English
> circumstance whether by the author of the statement or their assessment
> of the historical context relevant to FREUD.

More of your mindless waffle.

> That if 60-80% of the London population had some form of a sexually
> transmitted disease

There is no evidence of that.

> and the indigenous population of the pacific island
> were similarly decimated by sexually transmitted disease (et al)

There isn't evidence of that either. And even if some were decimated,
it is much more likely that it wasnt actually sexually transmitted disease
that did it given that happed all over the fucking world. Have fun
explaining that.

> it is then reasonable to use the word pandemic to convey its human
> consequence.

Bullshit it is. A pandemic involved a much more dramatic effect
over a much wider population than that.

> And if such occurred over many years would this be a contributing factor
> to any deterioration of formerly congenial relations.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

>>>>>
>>>>>> Freud lived and worked in Vienna, having set up his clinical
>>>>>> practice
>>>>>> there in 1886. In 1938, Freud left Austria to escape Nazi
>>>>>> persecution.
>>>>>> He died in exile in the United Kingdom in 1939--It is not for me to
>>>>>> extrapolate or research whether his association with the UK was
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> 1938 entirely non-existent.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it is clear from his biographys that before 1938 entirely
>>>>> non-existent.
>>>>>
>>>>>> His Five Lectures on Psychoanalysis and Civilization and its
>>>>>> Discontents
>>>>>> belong to two distinct phases of Freud’s thought—a thought which was
>>>>>> always changing, expanding, and being revised , and which has as
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> discontinuities as continuities. Both texts rest written from
>>>>>> Freud’s
>>>>>> basic psychoanalytic perspective; each reflects the general
>>>>>> *historical*, philosophical, and scientific movements in which Freud
>>>>>> found himself when he developed psychoanalysis.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Freud’s Austria of the second half of the nineteenth century was
>>>>>> characterized by an even more rigorous form of Victorian sexual
>>>>>> morality
>>>>>> than England, whose sexual delicacy and frigidity is often
>>>>>> caricatured.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even that isn't clear at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>> This rigorous sexual morality did not, however,prevent Victorians
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> speaking about sexuality.
>>>>>
>>>>> And doing it with children in spades.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The large, urban, professional middle class—the bourgeoisie—had an
>>>>>> intense moral preoccupation with sexuality, particularly in women
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> children. Their sexual interests, and sexual knowledge, were
>>>>>> understood
>>>>>> to be naturally limited; however, in the case of exceptions, this
>>>>>> interest and knowledge were carefully regulated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Young women were expected to be chaste before marriage;
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing unusual about that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and the private sexual experimentation of children and
>>>>>> adolescents—for
>>>>>> example, masturbation—were assiduously suppressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats bullshit with the dregs of their society.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, a *growing* *knowledge* *of* *sexual* *diseases*,
>>>>>> *like*
>>>>>> *syphilis*, created, in the public mind, an association between
>>>>>> *sexual*
>>>>>> *promiscuity* *and* *catastrophic* *epidemics*. Sexuality not only
>>>>>> needed to be regulatedby personal morality, or by the vigilance of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> family, but, since it could affect entire populations, was a
>>>>>> political
>>>>>> and social concern.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the reality is that raping of children and servants was rife.
>>>>>
>>>>>> At the same time the nascent field of sexology was developing. A
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> of medical researchers, like Havelock Ellis and Richard von
>>>>>> Krafft-Ebing—whom Feud knew and who publicly commented on one of
>>>>>> Freud’s
>>>>>> earliest papers—gave detailed and meticulous accounts of the forms
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> varieties of sexual behaviors and identities, regardless of their
>>>>>> rarity
>>>>>> or apparent perversity.
>>>>>
>>>>> And with Ellis, showed that it was nothing even remotely like rare..
>>>>>
>>>>>> They also tried to connect facts about sexuality to other facts,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> had no self-evident relationship to sexuality; they asked, for
>>>>>> example,
>>>>>> how sexuality relates to class,
>>>>>
>>>>> It was well known that the dregs fucked like rabbits and
>>>>> that abortion was rife.
>>>>>
>>>>>> or how sexuality relates to criminality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats more complicated given that what was illegal changed so much..
>>>>>
>>>>>> The late nineteenth century was, therefore, characterized by an
>>>>>> interesting constellation of trends: a personal, familial, and
>>>>>> political
>>>>>> regulation of sexuality, on the one hand, and a proliferation of
>>>>>> scientific writing which showed how that problematic sexuality
>>>>>> nevertheless had a secure and extensive place in human nature,
>>>>>
>>>>> Corse it did.
>>>>>
>>>>>> on the other hand. This constellation served as an auspicious
>>>>>> context
>>>>>> for Freud to develop his theories. Freud described how all kinds of
>>>>>> unusual, or “perverse,” sexual desires dominate the mind—in
>>>>>> children, in
>>>>>> neurotic adults, but also in normal adults. Freud also showed how
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mind finds itself in an irrevocable conflict with its own
>>>>>> sexuality: how
>>>>>> it fears its sexuality, and tries to avoid and eliminate it, or,
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> importantly, how it tries to forget it, or remove it from conscious
>>>>>> awareness.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats silly with the dregs of society that just got on with fucking
>>>>> like
>>>>> rabbits.
>>>>>
>>>>>> For Freud, this meant that unusual, “perverse” sexuality had a
>>>>>> peculiar
>>>>>> fate. Regulated by morality, removed from conscious awareness, but
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> very much extant, it became “unconscious”: no longer under the
>>>>>> control
>>>>>> of a person’s self-conscious and voluntary choices, it manifested
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> person’s involuntary actions, like mistakes and slips of the
>>>>>> tongues, as
>>>>>> well as in mental pathologies, like obsession, paranoia, hysteria,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> anxiety.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is all just another mindless wank.
>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.college.columbia.edu/core/content/writings-sigmund-freud/context>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:21:02 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 May 2022 09:47:07 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:10:30 +1000, Fran
>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/05/2022 5:19 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 7/5/22 4:06 pm:
>>>
>>>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where
>>>>> it belongs>
>>>>
>>>> Your definition of the word 'reams' needs working on!! One line
>>>> containing eight words would not meant what most people would consider
>>>> 'reams'!!
>>>
>>> LOL. Yep. Perhaps he means "reams" in the sense that he's put a 3
>>> year
>>> old to work to ream a hole? Certainly the sort of hole Roddles can
>>> ream
>>> is about as effective as that of a 3 year old.
>>
>> We agree on something, Hell is freezing over.
>>
> Been a Satanic Portal over the White House since unelected Joe Biden
> stole the election!!! Visible with the White house cameras
> <https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1525455426099322880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1525455426099322880%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fviral%2Froger-stone-satanic-portal-above-white-house%2F>
> https://tinyurl.com/y5s58sxk
> “There is a satanic portal above the WH, you can see it day and night
> .. it must be closed, and it will be closed by prayer .. It popped up
> when Joe Biden became president, and it will be closed before he
> leaves.”

Just because some fool claims something...

On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:32:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:21:02 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 09:47:07 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:10:30 +1000, Fran
>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/05/2022 5:19 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 7/5/22 4:06 pm:
>>>>
>>>>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where
>>>>>> it belongs>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your definition of the word 'reams' needs working on!! One line
>>>>> containing eight words would not meant what most people would consider
>>>>> 'reams'!!
>>>>
>>>> LOL. Yep. Perhaps he means "reams" in the sense that he's put a 3
>>>> year
>>>> old to work to ream a hole? Certainly the sort of hole Roddles can
>>>> ream
>>>> is about as effective as that of a 3 year old.
>>>
>>> We agree on something, Hell is freezing over.
>>>
>> Been a Satanic Portal over the White House since unelected Joe Biden
>> stole the election!!! Visible with the White house cameras
>> <https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1525455426099322880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1525455426099322880%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fviral%2Froger-stone-satanic-portal-above-white-house%2F>
>> https://tinyurl.com/y5s58sxk
>> “There is a satanic portal above the WH, you can see it day and night
>> .. it must be closed, and it will be closed by prayer .. It popped up
>> when Joe Biden became president, and it will be closed before he
>> leaves.”
>
>Just because some fool claims something...
>
A disbeliever America is being sucked into hell because of Joe Biden
the fake unelected anti-Christ president!
Death, Destruction, Pestilence, Famine and Ministry of Truth!
Proof the worse the DJI has been since 1952 and getting worse.
<https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=DJI&x=30&y=13&time=8&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=4%2F19%2F2022&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=3&maval=9&uf=16&lf=4&lf2=16777216&lf3=268435456&type=2&style=350&size=3&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=15>
https://tinyurl.com/yxovfk4w
Just one example.
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

On Sat, 21 May 2022 09:20:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:32:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:21:02 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 09:47:07 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:10:30 +1000, Fran
>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/05/2022 5:19 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 7/5/22 4:06 pm:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> it belongs>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your definition of the word 'reams' needs working on!! One line
>>>>>> containing eight words would not meant what most people would
>>>>>> consider
>>>>>> 'reams'!!
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL. Yep. Perhaps he means "reams" in the sense that he's put a 3
>>>>> year
>>>>> old to work to ream a hole? Certainly the sort of hole Roddles can
>>>>> ream
>>>>> is about as effective as that of a 3 year old.
>>>>
>>>> We agree on something, Hell is freezing over.
>>>>
>>> Been a Satanic Portal over the White House since unelected Joe Biden
>>> stole the election!!! Visible with the White house cameras
>>> <https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1525455426099322880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1525455426099322880%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fviral%2Froger-stone-satanic-portal-above-white-house%2F>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/y5s58sxk
>>> “There is a satanic portal above the WH, you can see it day and night
>>> .. it must be closed, and it will be closed by prayer .. It popped up
>>> when Joe Biden became president, and it will be closed before he
>>> leaves.”
>>
>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>
> A disbeliever America is being sucked into hell because of Joe Biden
> the fake unelected anti-Christ president!
> Death, Destruction, Pestilence, Famine and Ministry of Truth!
> Proof the worse the DJI has been since 1952 and getting worse.
> <https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=DJI&x=30&y=13&time=8&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=4%2F19%2F2022&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=3&maval=9&uf=16&lf=4&lf2=16777216&lf3=268435456&type=2&style=350&size=3&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=15>
> https://tinyurl.com/yxovfk4w
> Just one example.

Just because some fool claims something...

If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are the
chances you get in trouble for this?

I am surprised they even come out of lockdown.
Stop living in fear!

On Sat, 21 May 2022 09:33:24 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 May 2022 09:20:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:32:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 08:21:02 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 09:47:07 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 18:10:30 +1000, Fran
>>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/05/2022 5:19 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 7/5/22 4:06 pm:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> it belongs>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your definition of the word 'reams' needs working on!! One line
>>>>>>> containing eight words would not meant what most people would
>>>>>>> consider
>>>>>>> 'reams'!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL. Yep. Perhaps he means "reams" in the sense that he's put a 3
>>>>>> year
>>>>>> old to work to ream a hole? Certainly the sort of hole Roddles can
>>>>>> ream
>>>>>> is about as effective as that of a 3 year old.
>>>>>
>>>>> We agree on something, Hell is freezing over.
>>>>>
>>>> Been a Satanic Portal over the White House since unelected Joe Biden
>>>> stole the election!!! Visible with the White house cameras
>>>> <https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1525455426099322880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1525455426099322880%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fviral%2Froger-stone-satanic-portal-above-white-house%2F>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y5s58sxk
>>>> “There is a satanic portal above the WH, you can see it day and night
>>>> .. it must be closed, and it will be closed by prayer .. It popped up
>>>> when Joe Biden became president, and it will be closed before he
>>>> leaves.”
>>>
>>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>>
>> A disbeliever America is being sucked into hell because of Joe Biden
>> the fake unelected anti-Christ president!
>> Death, Destruction, Pestilence, Famine and Ministry of Truth!
>> Proof the worse the DJI has been since 1952 and getting worse.
>> <https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=&symb=DJI&x=30&y=13&time=8&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=4%2F19%2F2022&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=3&maval=9&uf=16&lf=4&lf2=16777216&lf3=268435456&type=2&style=350&size=3&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=15>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yxovfk4w
>> Just one example.
>
>Just because some fool claims something...
>
A graph can be fooled?
“Voter Fraud in Wisconsin -- Massive Dump of Over 100,000 Ballots for
Biden All the Sudden Appear Overnight,” appeared while polls were
down. Dump of Biden Michigan vote dump also, voting down
https://ibb.co/tL3QNFX
There has been a Satanic Portal over the White House since unelected
Joe Biden stole the election!!!
Visible with your own eyes by using the live White house cameras.
Portal appears and disappears though day and night.
<https://www.earthtv.com/en/webcam/washington-white-house/live-stream>
https://tinyurl.com/y375c7mc
Death, Destruction, Pestilence, Famine and Ministry of Truth!
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

On 21-May-22 9:56 am, Max wrote:
> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are the
> chances you get in trouble for this?

None at all. No one knows that you have done this, and there is no way
to identify you from the ballot paper.

Sylvia.

On 21/05/2022 9:56 am, Max wrote:
> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are the
> chances you get in trouble for this?

**None whatsoever.

Vote properly. Do not reward this miserable excuse for a Prime Minister.

On Saturday, 21 May 2022 at 10:44:00 UTC+10, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 21/05/2022 9:56 am, Max wrote:
> > If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are the
> > chances you get in trouble for this?
> **None whatsoever.
>
> Vote properly. Do not reward this miserable excuse for a Prime Minister.
Just voted, like anyone who knows any name and its address.
Heh.

On 20/05/2022 7:02 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote on 20/5/22 8:47 am:
>> Oliver Closeoff <commonsense@nospam.org> wrote
>>
>>> This tart should be certified and locked up in a mental institution.
>>
>> We don't lock up loonys anymore. The worst of them end up in jail now.
>>
>>> Are these the people who seriously believe they have the ability to
>>> manage Australia?
>>
>>> "Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland depicts a “passive heroine” who is
>>> “denied her own feelings” in order to satisfy the “desiring male gaze”
>>> of her creator, according to Labor’s candidate for Victoria’s most
>>> marginal seat.
>>
>>> Former academic, Victorian Trades Hall assistant secretary and Chisholm
>>> candidate Carina Garland wrote a journal article on “Gender, Desire,
>>> and Subjectivity in Lewis Carroll’s Alice Texts”, arguing that Carroll
>>> used his much-loved children’s books, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland
>>> and Through the Looking Glass, to “revile” female sexuality and
>>> “idealise” female passivity.
>>
>>> The protagonist of the books, Alice, is understood to have been seven
>>> in the first novel, and only six months older in the second, but Dr
>>> Garland draws upon Lacanian and Freudian theories relating to
>>> “castration”, “the phallus” and “vagina dentata” to make conclusions
>>> about Carroll’s “malicious” manipulation of his young heroine.
>>
>>> Popularised by psychoanalysts including Sigmund Freud and Jacques
>>> Lacan, the motif of a “vagina with teeth” is used by literary and
>>> cultural theorists to symbolise male fears of castration and the
>>> dangers of sexual intercourse; the phallus is regarded as representing
>>> male control.
>>
>>> “In Freudian terms, the Queen of Hearts’ tendency to scream ‘Off with
>>> their heads!’ can be read as a castration desire,” Dr Garland argues in
>>> her “feminist reading” of the 1865 and 1871 novels.
>>
>>> “While my analysis does seek to move away from traditional Freudian
>>> interpretations, eliminating the phallus and emasculating Wonderland’s
>>> mostly male population is an important part in understanding the
>>> presence of vagina dentata within the text. This fear of castration is
>>> something Carroll associates with adult females in Wonderland while the
>>> emasculation of men is a frequent feature of the text."
>>
>>> ROFLMAO.  https://tny.im/8ObT6
>>
>> Unlikely many of the votes even notice shit like that.
>
> Yeah, I think you're right, very few votes would note that shit!!

Indeed. In addition to that, I'm wondering what sort of brain dead loon
would bother to a) call an academic a 'tart', b) go on the hunt to find
something written by an academic and which is obviously way beyond their
level of comprehension, and c) bother to post it into a group that
contains one certified village idiot and several LNP trolls aspiring to
steal his crown.

On 21/05/2022 10:28 am, Leroy N. Sotero wrote:
> I am surprised they even come out of lockdown.
> Stop living in fear!

Cite?

I call Bullshit on your claim.

On 21/05/2022 9:56 am, Max wrote:
> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are the
> chances you get in trouble for this?

Zero chance. If you've ever voted before, you'd know that.

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are the
> chances you get in trouble for this?

Zero, nada, ziltch, not a chance. It's a secret ballot, stupid.

dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote

> I don't think that you have ever really provided coherent evidence to
> properly support your assertion.

There was no assertion, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>
>>> "They continued to pursue the women, who typically were willing;
>> So it wasn't prostitution, fuckwit.
>>
>>> the women also might have been exploited by their husbands, who
>>> wanted nails and other items the sailors offered.
>> And it was well known that plenty of them were very happy
>> to be fucked without anything being offered to them.
>
> The point is the irrationality of your discourse conduct, in that you
> deny there was *prostitution* and reinterpret evidence of such PIMPING
> OUR THEIR WIVES FOR SEXUAL FAVOURS TO WHICH PAYMENT IS RECEIVED AS
> INCENTIVE, namely: "the women also might have been exploited by their
> husbands, who wanted nails and other items"
>
> Against which you then make a generalisation by juxtaposing FREEWILL:
> "plenty of them were very happy" against the criteria of being EXPLOITED.
>
> You simply cannot cohere any focus of the discussion at hand and
> accordingly it is futile discussing anything with you.
>
> If there is evidence of of what you claim then provide it since the
> truth quotient of your statements is lacking.
>
> GOODBYE
>
> On 21/5/2022 08:30, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>> Try to form logical thought flow and rational conclusion.
>> Something you can never manage.