On 12/07/2021 12:42, Roderick Stewart wrote:
> Only one number, for example, becomes its own reciprocal if you
> subtract one from it

The Golden Number 1.618.... ISTR?

Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
> On 12/07/2021 11:34, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 10/07/2021 15:49, Indy Jess John wrote:
>>
>>> If the entity created the universe, then the laws that describe how the
>>> universe functions would have been created at the same time.
>>>
>>> Also, the laws evolve. Newton described gravity as the mutual attraction
>>> of two bodies according to their masses. Einstein realised that the
>>> "law" that had served for such a long time could not explain how a
>>> cannon ball and a feather (which have significantly different masses)
>>> reach the ground at the same time if there s no air to be moved out of
>>> the way and came to the conclusion that falling objects stay still while
>>> the universe moves around them. So what we regard as laws are really
>>> only best guesses until we find something better. Newtons Law then
>>> becomes just a very accurate rule of thumb.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that the cannon ball/feather example can be explained by
>> Newton's physics.
>>
> Not quite. The cannon ball has a greater mass than a feather. Therefore
> the Newton theory indicates that the mutual attraction of two bodies,
> and given that the earth is the constant on one side, the greater mass
> of the cannon ball should mean it reaches the ground a fraction sooner
> than the lower mass of a feather. When an experiment to demonstrate what
> actually happens in a vacuum did not show that theoretical difference in
> time, it reduced Newton's Law to the status of best guess.

According to my understanding of Newton’ law it makes a difference if you
drop the cannonball and feather separately and measure the time or if you
drop them together and see which lands first. Both together should land
slightly sooner than either separately.

The acceleration of either cannonball or feather depends on the mass of
Earth with its own mass cancelling out but Earth will accelerate towards
both together slightly more than towards the cannonball alone and more than
towards the feather alone.

Those conducting the experiment would have to ensure that it was at the
same time of day and phase of the moon and that there were no other
significant masses passing by to disturb the conditions unless of course
you can show that such effects cancel out. I would expect a cannonball to
fall faster on a moonless night than at noon when the moon is high in the
sky.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:51:31 +0100, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

>On 12/07/2021 10:59, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 23:12:15 +0100, williamwright
>> <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/07/2021 20:56, James Heaton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> My recent book is partly concerned with the way pillars of the
>>>>> community have in the past been wilfully blind to child sexual abuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0968MTDXR
>>>>
>>>> I have bought a copy, arrived this week.
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>
>>> Excellent! Let me know what you make of it!
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> I bought a copy too. It arrived in about ten seconds.
>>
>> Rod.
>>
>Ohh! Let me know what the ebook is like (functionally I mean).
>
>Bill

Sure, but I'll just finish the one I'm reading first.

As long as there are no diagrams I expect it will be fine. Some books
don't really suit electronic presentation, but linear narrative text
is as easy to follow on a tablet as on paper.

There might be a way of presenting textbooks with diagrams
electronically by using two screens - one for the diagrams and one for
the main text - but I'm not aware of any e-books like this (yet).

Rod.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:16:36 +0000 (UTC), MrSpud_13ek@2x0bz7uhl.tv
wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:44:12 +0100
>BrightsideS9 <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 08:59:13 +0000 (UTC),
>>MrSpud_dffX893@bld11734m5mk076mv.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 21:09:16 +0100
>>>Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:49:18 +0100, Indy Jess John
>>>><bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> the crazy notion of a
>>>>>> supernatural entity that created the universe, transcends the laws of
>>>>>> physics but for some reason never breaks them
>>>>>
>>>>>Odd logic there.
>>>>>
>>>>>If the entity created the universe, then the laws that describe how the
>>>>>universe functions would have been created at the same time.
>>>>
>>>>It's a crazy notion because if you claim there is an entity that
>>>>created everything, the logic effectively contradicts itself. Nobody
>>>>could have created the rules of mathematics and geometry, or the
>>>
>>>Geometry isn't as constant as you seem to believe especially when curved
>>>space comes into the picture.
>>
>>
>>How about defining / stating whicj geometry you are rambling on about.
>
>And there was me thinking we were discussing reality. Do try and keep up.
>

I am keeping up. C/R =pi is reality in Eclidean geometry (one of many
geometries) You cleverly (or so you thought) used non euclidean
geometry to try to disprrove the C/R = pi. And then a sweeping
statement that geometry isn't as constant as someone believes. What
geomertry isn't constant? Eluidate. Name the geometry. I am an eager
student.

--
brightside S9

On 12/07/2021 17:25, BrightsideS9 wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:16:36 +0000 (UTC), MrSpud_13ek@2x0bz7uhl.tv
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:44:12 +0100
>> BrightsideS9 <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 08:59:13 +0000 (UTC),
>>> MrSpud_dffX893@bld11734m5mk076mv.net wrote:

>>>> Geometry isn't as constant as you seem to believe especially when curved
>>>> space comes into the picture.
>>>
>>> How about defining / stating whicj geometry you are rambling on about.
>>
>> And there was me thinking we were discussing reality. Do try and keep up.
>
> I am keeping up. C/R =pi is reality in Eclidean geometry (one of many
> geometries) You cleverly (or so you thought) used non euclidean
> geometry to try to disprrove the C/R = pi. And then a sweeping
> statement that geometry isn't as constant as someone believes. What
> geomertry isn't constant? Eluidate. Name the geometry. I am an eager
> student.

I hope someone will tell me what geometry exists here in the UK then.
Round these parts it seems more like C/R = 2*pi.

"Max Demian" <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:brKdnTRio7a33nH9nZ2dnUU78c-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> On 12/07/2021 14:20, Spud wrote:
>> "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
>> news:il0nitFitkoU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>>> My recent book is partly concerned with the way pillars of the community
>>> have in the past been wilfully blind to child sexual abuse.
>>>
>> I hope it's not autobiogaphical, I've got a few years on you Bill, at the
>> time there was a lot
>> of it about, but us kids used to know who to avoid.
>
> Assuming the experience wasn't actually unpleasant, or even pleasant, who
> told you to avoid it?
>
> What ages are we talking about?
>
12/13 years early '50s we told mainly by our Form-Master and the boys from
the upper forms.
we never actually experienced it just imagined.

S

On 12/07/2021 20:15, Spud wrote:
> "Max Demian" <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:brKdnTRio7a33nH9nZ2dnUU78c-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>> On 12/07/2021 14:20, Spud wrote:
>>> "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
>>> news:il0nitFitkoU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>>> My recent book is partly concerned with the way pillars of the
>>>> community have in the past been wilfully blind to child sexual abuse.
>>>>
>>> I hope it's not autobiogaphical, I've got a few years on you Bill, at
>>> the time there was a lot
>>> of it about, but us kids used to know who to avoid.
>>
>> Assuming the experience wasn't actually unpleasant, or even pleasant,
>> who told you to avoid it?
>>
>> What ages are we talking about?
>>
> 12/13 years early '50s we told mainly by our Form-Master and the boys
> from the upper forms.
> we never actually experienced it just imagined.

So the men could have wanted to introduce you to the delights of amateur
radio as far as you would know.

In those days (and later) I suspect that the fear of being regarded as
"queer" would be enough to deter you. At 12/13, that would just leave
the "solitary vice".

--
Max Demian

On 12/07/2021 14:20, Spud wrote:
> "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
> news:il0nitFitkoU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 10/07/2021 10:15, Jim Lesurf wrote:
>>
>>> You missed out the bits about how various acitivites by priests has been
>>> covered up. Ireland. Catholic Church, etc. Much of it quite recent, and
>>> often covered up by others in the churches for years afterwards.
>>> Examples
>>> and evidence continues to emerge from behind 'walls of silence'. The
>>> CoE also has form in this area.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>> My recent book is partly concerned with the way pillars of the
>> community have in the past been wilfully blind to child sexual abuse.
>>
> I hope it's not autobiogaphical, I've got a few years on you Bill, at
> the time there was a lot
> of it about, but us kids used to know who to avoid.

Most kids did, most of the time.

Bill

On 12/07/2021 14:27, Max Demian wrote:
> On 12/07/2021 14:20, Spud wrote:
>> "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
>> news:il0nitFitkoU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>>> My recent book is partly concerned with the way pillars of the
>>> community have in the past been wilfully blind to child sexual abuse.
>>>
>> I hope it's not autobiogaphical, I've got a few years on you Bill, at
>> the time there was a lot
>> of it about, but us kids used to know who to avoid.
>
> Assuming the experience wasn't actually unpleasant, or even pleasant,
> who told you to avoid it?
>
> What ages are we talking about?
>
In the book I say how we were taught to be ashamed of our bodies and of
certain parts and functions in particular, but little or nothing was
said about specific threats. There were very vague warnings, which were
often not enough.

Bill

On 12/07/2021 14:27, Figaro wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 18:20:28 +0100, williamwright
> <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>
>> My recent book is partly concerned with the way pillars of the community
>> have in the past been wilfully blind to child sexual abuse.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0968MTDXR
>>
>> Bill
>
> Downloaded it Bill and found it a good read, captured the
> atmosphere of the times.
>
>
>
Excellent. Thank you.

Bill

On 12/07/2021 17:10, Roderick Stewart wrote:

>
> As long as there are no diagrams I expect it will be fine. Some books
> don't really suit electronic presentation, but linear narrative text
> is as easy to follow on a tablet as on paper.
>
> There might be a way of presenting textbooks with diagrams
> electronically by using two screens - one for the diagrams and one for
> the main text - but I'm not aware of any e-books like this (yet).
>
> Rod.
>

Should be OK then.

Bill

On 12/07/2021 20:15, Spud wrote:

>>
> 12/13 years early '50s we told mainly by our Form-Master and the boys
> from the upper forms.
> we never actually experienced it just imagined.
>
> S
There was absolutely no education about CSA at my school.

Bill

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:24:35 +0100, Norman Wells <hex@unseen.ac.am>
wrote:

>On 12/07/2021 17:25, BrightsideS9 wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:16:36 +0000 (UTC), MrSpud_13ek@2x0bz7uhl.tv
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:44:12 +0100
>>> BrightsideS9 <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 08:59:13 +0000 (UTC),
>>>> MrSpud_dffX893@bld11734m5mk076mv.net wrote:
>
>>>>> Geometry isn't as constant as you seem to believe especially when curved
>>>>> space comes into the picture.
>>>>
>>>> How about defining / stating whicj geometry you are rambling on about.
>>>
>>> And there was me thinking we were discussing reality. Do try and keep up.
>>
>> I am keeping up. C/R =pi is reality in Eclidean geometry (one of many
>> geometries) You cleverly (or so you thought) used non euclidean
>> geometry to try to disprrove the C/R = pi. And then a sweeping
>> statement that geometry isn't as constant as someone believes. What
>> geomertry isn't constant? Eluidate. Name the geometry. I am an eager
>> student.
>
>I hope someone will tell me what geometry exists here in the UK then.
>Round these parts it seems more like C/R = 2*pi.

Thanks for correcting the error.

--
brightside

"williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:il407kF7jsuU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 12/07/2021 14:27, Max Demian wrote:
> In the book I say how we were taught to be ashamed of our bodies and of
> certain parts and functions in particular, but little or nothing was said
> about specific threats. There were very vague warnings, which were often
> not enough.

The problem is that while the parts of the body may be talked about in terms
that mean something to the children - using words like "willy" or "penis" -
what is done to/with those parts is very vague. "Don't practice self-abuse"
means nothing to children. Children may know full well what "wank" and
"masturbate" (*) mean, and yet not relate that to "self abuse" or "the
solitary sin". I remember us giving our Scripture teacher a hard time
whenever we came to bit in the Bible that referred to X "had carnal
knowledge of" Y or "X lay with Y" - "Sir, what does that mean, sir?"

I remember a very down-to-earth no-nonsense teacher (**) at my school
gathered us together for a detention. He ranted and raved a bit in general,
and then got down to specifics - who had drawn a phallic symbol on another
teacher's car? What's a phallic symbol? He kept banging on about it.
Eventually someone asked "sir, what actually *is* a phallic symbol, sir?"
The teacher grinned and groaned "At last! Someone with the gumption to ask.
Let this be a lesson to you - if you don't know, ask." As soon as he said
"penis", one lad looked a bit sheepish and the culprit was unmasked. I got
the impression that the purpose of the detention was two-fold: not only to
find out who'd drawn the willy on Mr X's car (***), but also to teach us to
ask someone uses a word we don't know.

(*) At my school, teachers were referred to as "masters". Taunting or
imitating a teacher was referred to as "baiting". Each year the fifth and
sixth formers produced their own version of the school magazine - a few
sheets duplicated on a Banda - and the section which referred to the
teachers by their nicknames or mannerisms was titled Master Bait.

(**) Quickly roused to sound-and-fury temper, but this could just as quickly
vanish and turn to uproarious laughter. He was a great guy, was Jerry.

(***) To this day, I don't know why Mr X couldn't fight his own battle and
do the detention himself, but instead got Jerry to fight his battle for him.

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 00:14:10 +0100, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

>On 12/07/2021 20:15, Spud wrote:
>
>>>
>> 12/13 years early '50s we told mainly by our Form-Master and the boys
>> from the upper forms.
>> we never actually experienced it just imagined.
>>
>> S
>There was absolutely no education about CSA at my school.
>
>Bill

There was precious little formal education about anything to do with
sex at all at any of my schools, at least not until we were old enough
to have made the usual realisations and discoveries ourselves. Too
little too late, in other words.

Luckily my mother was a doctor. She worked in family planning clinics
and subfertility clinics and she told my siblings and me all about
everything. It was a long time before I fully appreciated what a
privileged position that put us in. I just assumed it was basic
knowledge that everybody knew about, but I've occasionally encountered
adults who appeared profoundly ignorant about it.

Rod.

"williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:il40m2F7jsuU4@mid.individual.net...
> On 12/07/2021 20:15, Spud wrote:
>
>>>
>> 12/13 years early '50s we told mainly by our Form-Master and the boys
>> from the upper forms.
>> we never actually experienced it just imagined.
>>
>> S
> There was absolutely no education about CSA at my school.

My grandpa was a headmaster of a junior school. I remember him telling me
about problems he'd had with "strange men" hanging about the school gate,
offering sweets if children would get into their cars. And he stressed that
if a stranger ever offered me or my sister sweets, especially if this was
conditional on going with the stranger, we should shout and yell and create
a big scene to attract attention.

But it was never described what the stranger might do to children that
he/she abducted.

I remember in the 1990s at work there was a bit of a commotion down the
other end of the office and everyone's heads popped up, meerkat-like, over
the partitions. There were two police officers being escorted to a man's
desk by the head of department, and we heard the standard words of the
police caution as he was arrested - for child porn. I remember the head of
department asking the police to let him take a copy of any work-related
files before they confiscated the PC (*). It turned out that although this
PC was clean, police found lots of pictures on his home PC of children,
including his own children, being sexually abused. I didn't know the chap
very well, but from what I knew of him, I'd never have guessed that he was
into child porn.

(*) They agreed, as long as they rather than the head of department operated
the PC - presumably in case he tried to destroy evidence.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:51:31 +0100, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

>Ohh! Let me know what the ebook is like (functionally I mean).
>
>Bill

Functionally it was generally fine. The only problem I had was with
the 'newspaper cuttings' had to play around with the settings to be
able to read them.

"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jejqeg1cgb739r10u2ca6g2cgukif5bqso@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 00:14:10 +0100, williamwright
> <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>
>>On 12/07/2021 20:15, Spud wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> 12/13 years early '50s we told mainly by our Form-Master and the boys
>>> from the upper forms.
>>> we never actually experienced it just imagined.
>>>
>>> S
>>There was absolutely no education about CSA at my school.
>>
>>Bill
>
> There was precious little formal education about anything to do with
> sex at all at any of my schools, at least not until we were old enough
> to have made the usual realisations and discoveries ourselves. Too
> little too late, in other words.
>
> Luckily my mother was a doctor. She worked in family planning clinics
> and subfertility clinics and she told my siblings and me all about
> everything. It was a long time before I fully appreciated what a
> privileged position that put us in. I just assumed it was basic
> knowledge that everybody knew about, but I've occasionally encountered
> adults who appeared profoundly ignorant about it.

I don't remember my school or my parents talking at all about
sex/contraception/babies/masturbation/rape. Somehow at school we acquired
the knowledge by osmosis and mucky jokes - sometimes with alarming errors:
at one time I thought "a rubber johnny" was a special spunk hose that
connected the man and woman when they bonked ;-)

I first learned about sex and babies from a book that "happened to be lying
around" (yeah, right!) at home: I presume my parents had left it somewhere
conspicuous so I'd be curious and read it in private.. which was a good way
of getting the message across without the embarrassment of having to say it
face-to-face. My brother-in-law said one of the most embarrassing
experiences of his life was taking my eldest nephew aside to give him the
birds-and-bees talk: he may have only done it to the eldest, on the basis
that *he* would* then tell his younger brothers.

On 13/07/2021 09:39, Roderick Stewart wrote:
> There was precious little formal education about anything to do with
> sex at all at any of my schools, ...

In my first year at Nailsea Grammar School (1962 - 1963) the whole
of the first year's intake were given a two-day seminar to
teach us the facts of life.

In old money, that was first year to sixth form. Don't quite know
what it is today. Year 7 onwards?

"gareth evans" <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:scjttr$rjr$1@dont-email.me...
> On 13/07/2021 09:39, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>> There was precious little formal education about anything to do with
>> sex at all at any of my schools, ...
>
> In my first year at Nailsea Grammar School (1962 - 1963) the whole
> of the first year's intake were given a two-day seminar to
> teach us the facts of life.
>
>
> In old money, that was first year to sixth form. Don't quite know
> what it is today. Year 7 onwards?

Is the a seminar or a "semenar" ;-)

On 13/07/2021 10:02, NY wrote:
> "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
> news:il40m2F7jsuU4@mid.individual.net...
>> On 12/07/2021 20:15, Spud wrote:

>>> 12/13 years early '50s we told mainly by our Form-Master and the boys
>>> from the upper forms.
>>> we never actually experienced it just imagined.
>>>
>>> S
>> There was absolutely no education about CSA at my school.
>
> My grandpa was a headmaster of a junior school. I remember him telling
> me about problems he'd had with "strange men" hanging about the school
> gate, offering sweets if children would get into their cars. And he
> stressed that if a stranger ever offered me or my sister sweets,
> especially if this was conditional on going with the stranger, we should
> shout and yell and create a big scene to attract attention.
>
> But it was never described what the stranger might do to children that
> he/she abducted.

The only time I was offered sweets by a man was from one who looked a
bit like a tramp sitting on a bench on the road near where I lived. I
refused, told my mum and she decided (somehow) that he was a resident at
a nearby old folks home and that I could have accepted the sweets. I
remember at the time thinking how dumb my mum was saying that, as there
was no way I could have known his identity or intentions.

--
Max Demian

On 13/07/2021 10:20, Figaro wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:51:31 +0100, williamwright
> <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Ohh! Let me know what the ebook is like (functionally I mean).
>>
>> Bill
>
> Functionally it was generally fine. The only problem I had was with
> the 'newspaper cuttings' had to play around with the settings to be
> able to read them.
>
Yes I suspected that. Having got everything ready, or so I thought, I
commenced uploading the book at 10am. By 5pm I'd had enough so I pressed
the GO button. I should have waited until the next day and checked
through everything again because there were several errors. I wasn't
happy with the way the press cutting was reproduced in the print
version. The relevant article was barely legible. Here's the original.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3018noyra81p5os/inquest%20newspaper%20page%2001%20%282%29.jpg?dl=0

I'm on with another book now and I'm confident I'll make a better job of
uploading it this time! It's certainly a learning curve.

Bill

In article <VoOdnWeCS_PWGnD9nZ2dnUU78S3NnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On 13/07/2021 10:02, NY wrote:
> > "williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
> > news:il40m2F7jsuU4@mid.individual.net...
> >> On 12/07/2021 20:15, Spud wrote:

> >>> 12/13 years early '50s we told mainly by our Form-Master and the boys
> >>> from the upper forms. we never actually experienced it just imagined.
> >>>
> >>> S
> >> There was absolutely no education about CSA at my school.
> >
> > My grandpa was a headmaster of a junior school. I remember him telling
> > me about problems he'd had with "strange men" hanging about the school
> > gate, offering sweets if children would get into their cars. And he
> > stressed that if a stranger ever offered me or my sister sweets,
> > especially if this was conditional on going with the stranger, we
> > should shout and yell and create a big scene to attract attention.
> >
> > But it was never described what the stranger might do to children that
> > he/she abducted.

> The only time I was offered sweets by a man was from one who looked a
> bit like a tramp sitting on a bench on the road near where I lived. I
> refused, told my mum and she decided (somehow) that he was a resident at
> a nearby old folks home and that I could have accepted the sweets. I
> remember at the time thinking how dumb my mum was saying that, as there
> was no way I could have known his identity or intentions.

I can remember being asked if I'f like a lift to school when walking to the
bus stop. I refused and seconds later one of my classmates came running out
of his house and said "That's my dad" - so I took the lift.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 13/07/2021 13:30, Max Demian wrote:
> The only time I was offered sweets by a man was from one who looked a
> bit like a tramp sitting on a bench on the road near where I lived. I
> refused, told my mum and she decided (somehow) that he was a resident at
> a nearby old folks home and that I could have accepted the sweets. I
> remember at the time thinking how dumb my mum was saying that, as there
> was no way I could have known his identity or intentions.

I used to have two of some friends' sons stay with me during the school
holidays. I noticed that if you have a child with you other children
think you are OK because you are a "Daddy". Rather worrying.

Nicest surprise was at a school on the West side of Harris. Most of the
ares in the Western Isles have a heritage centree / museum etc and these
are sometimes at the school. So I walked up to see if one was open, it
was not but two little girls came running up from the playground and
asked very politely if they could help. I was amazed because most
places on the mainland they would be shouting "STRANGER"!

On 10 Jul 2021, williamwright wrote (in
article<ikshu2Fp11lU1@mid.individual.net>):

> On 09/07/2021 14:02, MrSpud_5zl3p92@ee4zo.net wrote:
>
> > I'm not religious at all, but if the owner of a private B&B doesn't want to
> > rent to gay couples because blunty they don't want to have to wash shit off
> > the sheets the next morning then they should be entitled to refuse them.
>
> I can't see any reason why bed hygiene should be any less careful for
> homosexuals than for anyone else. Maybe you know things I don't. Or
> maybe you're just making something up to support your ridiculous
> prejudices.

Homophobes do seem to have a bit of a shit fixation.
Perhaps it is caused by over-severe potty training.

Or perhaps it is just because they are arseholes.

Anyway, Bill, are you going to break the bad news
to him about this newsgroup's consensus view of
his sexual orientation, or shall I?

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Bill Findlay