On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and only
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>
>>>>  From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two clueless
>>>> twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>
>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
>>> path. Shows your character really well.
>>>
>>
>> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
>> it's all on record pal.
>>
>> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
>> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
>>
>> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
>>
>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
>>
>> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think that
>> matters.
>>
>> what are your
>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you need
>>> a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>
>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>
>
> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
> connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
> with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>

Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data and
capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have seen. As an
aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many years to aid in
diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which I made my own
serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you know what would
happen right?

> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."

And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question asking
if it has one. For what purpose do you think?

Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of which
noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's attack is
filled with outright lies about what I do and is completely unprovoked.
So you think that is warranted is it?

That was right after you
> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were not
> being nice.
>

Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with the
diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote diagnosis
you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking questions, not
by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say you don't care about
while stroking your ego when you have such limited information at your
disposal to make a correct diagnosis.

> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>

The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the diagnosis
but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has backfired. Read
the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found funny and then
consider that I did try and help *and* was the first to do so.

If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.

"SSDD" I think someone here refers to it as.

On 31/01/2022 3:44 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 31/01/2022 4:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 31/1/22 4:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and only
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>
>>>>  From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two clueless
>>>> twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>
>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
>>> path. Shows your character really well.
>>
>> Sad but true.
>> If he had a clue he could just offer a suggestion or he could just be
>> a dick, too bad he choose the later.
>
> Well he always claims to be the 'better' person so here's his chance to
> prove it.
>>>
>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are, what are your
>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you need
>>> a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>
>> I'd like to see him try and plug in his scan tool into the car in
>> question, there is a USB cable in the glove box that connects to the
>> ECU but no OBD2 port.
>> I can connect to the ECU because I have the correct tool and there are
>> no fault codes.
>
> I'm amazed at some of the new control systems that are coming out where
> they have sensors everywhere. Even with those they can have issues not
> showing in the systems. There's Haltech, HP Tuners, and Holley that I've
> seen on the channels I watch, I'm sure there's others as well.
>

They are pretty low tech compared to OEM stuff.

On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 18:36:57 +1100, Noddy wrote:

>
> Yep. *lots* of noise, but zero substance. About all you'd expect from an
> attention seeking personality complex who has been completely irrelevant
> to *anything* for the last 25 years :)

You've really got to wonder why Der Der is so maniacally desperate to be
'relevant'. I'd opine that it's a mixture of a lot of rejections and his
NPD. I do wish that he'd get some professional treatment.

alvey

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On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:54:24 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and only
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>>
>>>>>  From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two clueless
>>>>> twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>>
>>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
>>>> path. Shows your character really well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
>>> it's all on record pal.
>>>
>>> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
>>> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
>>>
>>> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
>>>
>>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
>>>
>>> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think that
>>> matters.
>>>
>>> what are your
>>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you need
>>>> a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>>
>>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>>
>>
>> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
>> connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
>> with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>>
>
> Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data and
> capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have seen. As an
> aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many years to aid in
> diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which I made my own
> serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you know what would
> happen right?
>
>> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."
>
> And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question asking
> if it has one. For what purpose do you think?
>
> Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of which
> noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's attack is
> filled with outright lies about what I do and is completely unprovoked.
> So you think that is warranted is it?
>
> That was right after you
>> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were not
>> being nice.
>>
>
> Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with the
> diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote diagnosis
> you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking questions, not
> by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say you don't care about
> while stroking your ego when you have such limited information at your
> disposal to make a correct diagnosis.
>
>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>
>
> The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the diagnosis
> but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has backfired. Read
> the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found funny and then
> consider that I did try and help *and* was the first to do so.
>
> If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
> reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.
>

And then there's Deryl's impressive bit of stupidity. He never replies to
half the group, but then whinges that those people aren't helping him!

alvey

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On 1/2/2022 7:31 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 18:36:57 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>>
>> Yep. *lots* of noise, but zero substance. About all you'd expect from an
>> attention seeking personality complex who has been completely irrelevant
>> to *anything* for the last 25 years :)
>
> You've really got to wonder why Der Der is so maniacally desperate to be
> 'relevant'. I'd opine that it's a mixture of a lot of rejections and his

When Darren projects a lack of relevance upon *others*, you know that
it's really his own feelings about *himself* that is at issue here.
> NPD. I do wish that he'd get some professional treatment.
>
Way beyond any form of professional help I'm afraid.
>
>
> alvey
>

--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 1/02/2022 4:39 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:54:24 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and only
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two clueless
>>>>>> twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
>>>>> path. Shows your character really well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
>>>> it's all on record pal.
>>>>
>>>> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
>>>> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
>>>>
>>>> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
>>>>
>>>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
>>>>
>>>> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think that
>>>> matters.
>>>>
>>>> what are your
>>>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you need
>>>>> a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>>>
>>>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>>>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>>>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>>>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
>>> connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
>>> with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>>>
>>
>> Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data and
>> capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have seen. As an
>> aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many years to aid in
>> diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which I made my own
>> serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you know what would
>> happen right?
>>
>>> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."
>>
>> And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question asking
>> if it has one. For what purpose do you think?
>>
>> Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of which
>> noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's attack is
>> filled with outright lies about what I do and is completely unprovoked.
>> So you think that is warranted is it?
>>
>> That was right after you
>>> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were not
>>> being nice.
>>>
>>
>> Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with the
>> diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote diagnosis
>> you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking questions, not
>> by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say you don't care about
>> while stroking your ego when you have such limited information at your
>> disposal to make a correct diagnosis.
>>
>>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>>
>>
>> The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the diagnosis
>> but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has backfired. Read
>> the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found funny and then
>> consider that I did try and help *and* was the first to do so.
>>
>> If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
>> reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.
>>
>
> And then there's Deryl's impressive bit of stupidity. He never replies to
> half the group, but then whinges that those people aren't helping him!
>
>
> alvey
>

I'm lost for words to be honest.

On 1/02/2022 1:54 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and
>>>>>>> only you
>>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>>
>>>>>  From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two
>>>>> clueless twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>>
>>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
>>>> path. Shows your character really well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
>>> it's all on record pal.
>>>
>>> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
>>> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
>>>
>>> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
>>>
>>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
>>>
>>> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think
>>> that matters.
>>>
>>> what are your
>>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you
>>>> need a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>>
>>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>>
>>
>> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
>> connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
>> with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>>
>
> Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data
> and capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have seen.
> As an aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many years to
> aid in diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which I made my
> own serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you know what
> would happen right?
>
>> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."
>
> And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question
> asking if it has one. For what purpose do you think?
>
> Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of
> which   noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's attack
> is filled with outright lies about what I do and is completely
> unprovoked. So you think that is warranted is it?
>
>
> That was right after you
>> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were
>> not being nice.
>>
>
> Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with the
> diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote
> diagnosis you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking
> questions, not by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say you
> don't care about while stroking your ego when you have such limited
> information at your disposal to make a correct diagnosis.
>
>
>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>
>
> The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the
> diagnosis but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has
> backfired. Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently
> found funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the
> first to do so.
>
> If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
> reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.
>
> "SSDD" I think someone here refers to it as.
>
>

run grubby, run..

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-noddy 5/08/2017 4:12 PM

On 1/02/2022 9:16 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 4:39 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:54:24 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two
>>>>>>> clueless
>>>>>>> twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
>>>>>> path. Shows your character really well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
>>>>> it's all on record pal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
>>>>> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
>>>>>
>>>>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think that
>>>>> matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> what are your
>>>>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>>>>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>>>>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>>>>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
>>>> connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
>>>> with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data and
>>> capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have seen. As an
>>> aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many years to aid in
>>> diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which I made my own
>>> serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you know what would
>>> happen right?
>>>
>>>> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."
>>>
>>> And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question asking
>>> if it has one. For what purpose do you think?
>>>
>>> Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of
>>> which
>>>     noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's attack is
>>> filled with outright lies about what I do and is completely unprovoked.
>>> So you think that is warranted is it?
>>>
>>> That was right after you
>>>> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were
>>>> not
>>>> being nice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with the
>>> diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote diagnosis
>>> you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking questions,
>>> not
>>> by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say you don't care
>>> about
>>> while stroking your ego when you have such limited information at your
>>> disposal to make a correct diagnosis.
>>>
>>>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the diagnosis
>>> but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has backfired.
>>> Read
>>> the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found funny and
>>> then
>>> consider that I did try and help *and* was the first to do so.
>>>
>>> If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
>>> reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.
>>>
>>
>> And then there's Deryl's impressive bit of stupidity. He never
>> replies to
>> half the group, but then whinges that those people aren't helping him!
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>
> I'm lost for words to be honest.
>
>

don't worry about  it. you can't treat these ppl decently they're not
decent ppl.

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On 1/02/2022 7:39 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:54:24 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and only
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two clueless
>>>>>> twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
>>>>> path. Shows your character really well.
>>>>>
>>>> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
>>>> it's all on record pal.
>>>>
>>>> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
>>>> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
>>>>
>>>> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
>>>>
>>>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
>>>> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think that
>>>> matters.
>>>>
>>>> what are your
>>>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you need
>>>>> a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>>>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>>>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>>>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>>>
>>> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
>>> connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
>>> with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>>>
>> Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data and
>> capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have seen. As an
>> aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many years to aid in
>> diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which I made my own
>> serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you know what would
>> happen right?
>>
>>> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."
>> And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question asking
>> if it has one. For what purpose do you think?
>>
>> Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of which
>> noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's attack is
>> filled with outright lies about what I do and is completely unprovoked.
>> So you think that is warranted is it?
>>
>> That was right after you
>>> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were not
>>> being nice.
>>>
>> Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with the
>> diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote diagnosis
>> you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking questions, not
>> by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say you don't care about
>> while stroking your ego when you have such limited information at your
>> disposal to make a correct diagnosis.
>>
>>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>>
>> The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the diagnosis
>> but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has backfired. Read
>> the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found funny and then
>> consider that I did try and help *and* was the first to do so.
>>
>> If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
>> reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.
>>
> And then there's Deryl's impressive bit of stupidity. He never replies to
> half the group, but then whinges that those people aren't helping him!

half the group? he only replies to his best mate, grubby, jonz, keefy,
and loonsey ie. the FLCJC. everyone else he just snipes at from 'echoed'
posts, same as the fraudster.

>
>
> alvey
>

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On 1/2/22 12:36 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 31/01/2022 11:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 31/1/22 9:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>>
>> That I did.
>> I have have experienced similar symptoms on pre electronics cars and
>> the fault was always easy to find so any "mechanic" who worked on
>> those early cars should know straight away what the problem is.
>> If I was a trade school teacher the only one who would have passed the
>> exam is Noddy:-)
>
> You complete cunt. You'll have them salivating like wild dogs with that
> comment :)
>
>
>
LOL, that was the plan:-)

--
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On 31/01/2022 6:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 31/01/2022 9:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>>
>>
>> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
>> connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
>> with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>>
>> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..." That was right after you
>> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were
>> not being nice.
>>
>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>
> He did indeed, but apparently Jerky the perpetual victim can't tell the
> difference. He should stick to something a little less taxing, like
> fitting mudflaps and towbars.
>
>
>

There you go Grumpy.

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 11:18:23 +1100, Daryl wrote:

> On 1/2/22 12:36 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 31/01/2022 11:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 31/1/22 9:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>>>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>>>
>>> That I did.
>>> I have have experienced similar symptoms on pre electronics cars and
>>> the fault was always easy to find so any "mechanic" who worked on
>>> those early cars should know straight away what the problem is.
>>> If I was a trade school teacher the only one who would have passed the
>>> exam is Noddy:-)
>>
>> You complete cunt. You'll have them salivating like wild dogs with that
>> comment :)
>>
> LOL, that was the plan:-)

And it was as successful as your cleaning enterprise's business plan...

alvey

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On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 00:36:41 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> On 31/01/2022 11:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
> > On 31/1/22 9:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
> >> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
> >>
> > That I did.
> > I have have experienced similar symptoms on pre electronics cars and the
> > fault was always easy to find so any "mechanic" who worked on those
> > early cars should know straight away what the problem is.
> > If I was a trade school teacher the only one who would have passed the
> > exam is Noddy:-)
> You complete cunt. You'll have them salivating like wild dogs with that
> comment :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~
<G>
> --
> --
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> > On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
> >> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> >>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
> >>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and only
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
> >>>>> revealed...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> alvey
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
> >>>>
> >>>> From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two clueless
> >>>> twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
> >>>
> >>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
> >>> path. Shows your character really well.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
> >> it's all on record pal.
> >>
> >> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
> >> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
> >>
> >> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
> >>
> >>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
> >>
> >> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think that
> >> matters.
> >>
> >> what are your
> >>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you need
> >>> a scan tool to diagnose it...
> >>
> >> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
> >> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
> >> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
> >> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
> >>
> >
> > Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
> > connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
> > with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
> >
> Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data and
> capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have seen. As an
> aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many years to aid in
> diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which I made my own
> serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you know what would
> happen right?
> > Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."
> And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question asking
> if it has one. For what purpose do you think?
>
> Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of which
> noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's attack is
> filled with outright lies about what I do and is completely unprovoked.
> So you think that is warranted is it?
> That was right after you
> > posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were not
> > being nice.
> >
> Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with the
> diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote diagnosis
> you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking questions, not
> by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say you don't care about
> while stroking your ego when you have such limited information at your
> disposal to make a correct diagnosis.
> > He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
> >
> The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the diagnosis

>
but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has backfired.
~~~~
How so?.

Read
> the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found funny and then
> consider that I did try and help *and* was the first to do so.
~~~~
You and your bum buddies spend the better part of *every* day denigrating ppl in here.
(Using *Dumb and Dumber* in this poast....)
>
> If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
> reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Boo fuckin' Hoo,
Now yer Using the Kamahl approach:
"Why are people so unkind" Sob, sob, sniff.
"SSDD" I think someone here refers to it as.
Hmmm, yes. Drink some cement ticco.

On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:

>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
>> me.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Boo fuckin' Hoo, Now yer Using the Kamahl approach:
> "Why are people so unkind" Sob, sob, sniff. "SSDD" I think someone
> here refers to it as. Hmmm, yes. Drink some cement ticco.

Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?

For fuck's sake, he chimes in with a reply to Daryl's post, and the very
first action of his reply is to make an insulting comment of "Sounds
like you need a good mechanic.". So he gets it back, and when he does he
starts pissing and moaning like a little fucking kid who's had someone
else blow out the candles on his birthday cake.

Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me".

I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in this
group.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 1/2/2022 4:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
>>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
>>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
>>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
>>> me.
>
> Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
> complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?

Yes Darren, you have. Definitely the worst I have seen. Probably started
when you were getting bullied at Richmond Tech Secondary School.
Explains why you became the bully here - from the safety of your keyboard.
>
> Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me".

Yes, Darren, you're getting back what you dished out for so long.
>
> I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in this
> group.

No one could ever top you.

--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 16:04:20 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
>>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
>>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
>>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
>>> me.
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Boo fuckin' Hoo, Now yer Using the Kamahl approach:
>> "Why are people so unkind" Sob, sob, sniff. "SSDD" I think someone
>> here refers to it as. Hmmm, yes. Drink some cement ticco.
>
> Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
> complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?

Which explains why he has so many ppl in his killfail...
> For fuck's sake, he chimes in with a reply to Daryl's post, and the very
> first action of his reply is to make an insulting comment of "Sounds
> like you need a good mechanic.". So he gets it back, and when he does he
> starts pissing and moaning like a little fucking kid who's had someone
> else blow out the candles on his birthday cake.
>
> Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me".
>
> I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in this
> group.

Snivelled Der Der. From behind his killfail. What a buffoon.

alvey

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On 1/02/2022 8:44 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 1:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and
>>>>>>>> only you
>>>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two
>>>>>> clueless twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the low
>>>>> path. Shows your character really well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
>>>> it's all on record pal.
>>>>
>>>> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
>>>> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
>>>>
>>>> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
>>>>
>>>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
>>>>
>>>> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think
>>>> that matters.
>>>>
>>>> what are your
>>>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you
>>>>> need a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>>>
>>>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>>>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>>>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>>>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
>>> connection to an engine management system in the car which is fitted
>>> with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>>>
>>
>> Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data
>> and capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have seen.
>> As an aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many years to
>> aid in diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which I made my
>> own serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you know what
>> would happen right?
>>
>>> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."
>>
>> And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question
>> asking if it has one. For what purpose do you think?
>>
>> Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of
>> which   noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's attack
>> is filled with outright lies about what I do and is completely
>> unprovoked. So you think that is warranted is it?
>>
>>
>> That was right after you
>>> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were
>>> not being nice.
>>>
>>
>> Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with the
>> diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote
>> diagnosis you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking
>> questions, not by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say you
>> don't care about while stroking your ego when you have such limited
>> information at your disposal to make a correct diagnosis.
>>
>>
>>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>>
>>
>> The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the
>> diagnosis but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has
>> backfired. Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently
>> found funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the
>> first to do so.
>>
>> If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
>> reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.
>>
>> "SSDD" I think someone here refers to it as.
>>
>>
>
> run grubby, run..

So what useful wisdom do you bring to a thread about the technical
aspects of internal combust engines?

On 1/02/2022 4:31 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 16:04:20 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
>>>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
>>>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
>>>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
>>>> me.
>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Boo fuckin' Hoo, Now yer Using the Kamahl approach:
>>> "Why are people so unkind" Sob, sob, sniff. "SSDD" I think someone
>>> here refers to it as. Hmmm, yes. Drink some cement ticco.
>>
>> Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
>> complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?
>
> Which explains why he has so many ppl in his killfail...
>
>> For fuck's sake, he chimes in with a reply to Daryl's post, and the very
>> first action of his reply is to make an insulting comment of "Sounds
>> like you need a good mechanic.". So he gets it back, and when he does he
>> starts pissing and moaning like a little fucking kid who's had someone
>> else blow out the candles on his birthday cake.
>>
>> Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me".
>>
>> I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in this
>> group.
>
> Snivelled Der Der. From behind his killfail. What a buffoon.
>
>
> alvey
>
5 posts from Alvey in this thread, and not one having any bearing on the
subject. Not surprising since he obviously knows nothing about it.

On 1/02/2022 5:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 8:44 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 1/02/2022 1:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 6:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 7:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2022 1:37 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/01/2022 10:01 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:41:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's interesting is that it was a genuine real question and
>>>>>>>>> only you
>>>>>>>>> replied with helpful ideas/questions, I wonder why that is so:-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The source of Matt Groening's inspiration for Homer Simpson is
>>>>>>>> revealed...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Talk about 'Dumb and Dumber' personified.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  From a mechanics perspective I can only laugh at these two
>>>>>>> clueless twits fumbling around in the dark looking for a clue :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet instead of helping like a decent human being you choose the
>>>>>> low path. Shows your character really well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Continue your character assassination and defamation all you want,
>>>>> it's all on record pal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider this which I posted before anyone else did and then read
>>>>> Daryl's and Noddy's attack.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Not a lot of detail on the setup. MAF sensor?"
>>>>>
>>>>>> So as the brilliant mechanic you think you are,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not what I think that matters, it's what my customers think
>>>>> that matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> what are your
>>>>>> suggestions of issues that might be causing the issue, or do you
>>>>>> need a scan tool to diagnose it...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't need a scan tool to know that is a backfire, that's for
>>>>> certain. A scan tool is just a tool like any other tool a mechanic
>>>>> uses to fix cars. How do you propose a mechanic reads and captures
>>>>> live data to aid in diagnosis without one for instance?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently with a laptop and software from what I see lately. USB
>>>> connection to an engine management system in the car which is
>>>> fitted with multiple sensors. Note he mentions a Link ECU module.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Proper diagnostic scan tools have had the ability to view live data
>>> and capture it for decades. Yes you can use laptops as you have
>>> seen. As an aside I have an old Win98 laptop that I used for many
>>> years to aid in diagnosing older non-OBD-II compliant cars for which
>>> I made my own serial to OBD/ALDL interface. I'd post a photo but you
>>> know what would happen right?
>>>
>>>> Yes you did post "Not a lot of detail..."
>>>
>>> And "MAF sensor?". What do you think that means? It's a question
>>> asking if it has one. For what purpose do you think?
>>>
>>> Now consider the attack by Noddy (and Daryl in support) neither of
>>> which   noticed I was the first to respond which means Noddy's
>>> attack is filled with outright lies about what I do and is
>>> completely unprovoked. So you think that is warranted is it?
>>>
>>>
>>> That was right after you
>>>> posted " Sounds like you need a good mechanic." Seems like you were
>>>> not being nice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Daryl had the car in front of him and seems to be struggling with
>>> the diagnosis, no? If you're going to make an attempt at a remote
>>> diagnosis you need to establish the facts and you do that by asking
>>> questions, not by shotgun diagnosis and denigrating people you say
>>> you don't care about while stroking your ego when you have such
>>> limited information at your disposal to make a correct diagnosis.
>>>
>>>
>>>> He states it is a "misfire", not a "backfire" at light throttle.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The "backfire" I'm referring to here isn't in relation to the
>>> diagnosis but your crack at me for having a go at them - which has
>>> backfired. Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently
>>> found funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the
>>> first to do so.
>>>
>>> If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried to be a
>>> reasonable human being and help and look where that got me.
>>>
>>> "SSDD" I think someone here refers to it as.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> run grubby, run..
>
> So what useful wisdom do you bring to a thread about the technical
> aspects of internal combust engines?
>

about as much as you

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-noddy 5/08/2017 4:12 PM

On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 16:47:27 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
> On 1/2/2022 4:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
> > On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> >
> >>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
> >>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
> >>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
> >>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
> >>> me.
> >
> > Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
> > complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yep, the dumbarse (would be) leader of the most useless bunch of flops to ever pollute usenet.......

> Yes Darren, you have. Definitely the worst I have seen. Probably started
> when you were getting bullied at Richmond Tech Secondary School.
> Explains why you became the bully here - from the safety of your keyboard.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yadda,Yadda,Yadda.....

> >
> > Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me"
..
> Yes, Darren, you're getting back what you dished out for so long.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Trying to turn around that which has been already stated is another useless ploy Dipshit.
Do you? really, truly think that *you* (or any of yer FLC) have *any* sway in *anything* that goes on around here. ? You lot are either ignored, or treated with the derision you deserve..

> >
> > I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in this
> > group.
> No one could ever top you.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*NO YOU*.....The only comeback yer capable of, you gutless, boring, repetitive old cunt......
> --
> Xeno
>
>
> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 18:48:04 UTC+11, keithr0 wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 4:31 pm, alvey wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 16:04:20 +1100, Noddy wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
> >>>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
> >>>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
> >>>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
> >>>> me.
> >>
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Boo fuckin' Hoo, Now yer Using the Kamahl approach:
> >>> "Why are people so unkind" Sob, sob, sniff. "SSDD" I think someone
> >>> here refers to it as. Hmmm, yes. Drink some cement ticco.
> >>
> >> Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
> >> complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?
> >
> > Which explains why he has so many ppl in his killfail...
> >
> >> For fuck's sake, he chimes in with a reply to Daryl's post, and the very
> >> first action of his reply is to make an insulting comment of "Sounds
> >> like you need a good mechanic.". So he gets it back, and when he does he
> >> starts pissing and moaning like a little fucking kid who's had someone
> >> else blow out the candles on his birthday cake.
> >>
> >> Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me".
> >>
> >> I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in this
> >> group.
> >
> > Snivelled Der Der. From behind his killfail. What a buffoon.
> >
> >
> > alvey
> >
> 5 posts from Alvey in this thread, and not one having any bearing on the
> subject. Not surprising since he obviously knows nothing about it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The only thing he is good at is pissing ppl off. <shrug>

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 17:48:03 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 1/02/2022 4:31 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 16:04:20 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
>>>>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
>>>>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
>>>>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
>>>>> me.
>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Boo fuckin' Hoo, Now yer Using the Kamahl approach:
>>>> "Why are people so unkind" Sob, sob, sniff. "SSDD" I think someone
>>>> here refers to it as. Hmmm, yes. Drink some cement ticco.
>>>
>>> Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
>>> complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?
>>
>> Which explains why he has so many ppl in his killfail...
>>
>>> For fuck's sake, he chimes in with a reply to Daryl's post, and the very
>>> first action of his reply is to make an insulting comment of "Sounds
>>> like you need a good mechanic.". So he gets it back, and when he does he
>>> starts pissing and moaning like a little fucking kid who's had someone
>>> else blow out the candles on his birthday cake.
>>>
>>> Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me".
>>>
>>> I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in this
>>> group.
>>
>> Snivelled Der Der. From behind his killfail. What a buffoon.
>>
>> alvey
>>
> 5 posts from Alvey in this thread, and not one having any bearing on the
> subject.

Well done keith! Shot yourself in *both* feet.

Left foot: *None* of the posts I responded to were on topic.
Right foot: This is usenet keith. People can post what they like. Why some
people even post monstrous lies & mountainous, baseless abuse and *still*
have enablers!

> Not surprising since he obviously knows nothing about it.

I'd rather be ignorant of whatever the OP was than societal norms...

alvey

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On 1/02/2022 1:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
>>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
>>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
>>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
>>> me.
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Boo fuckin' Hoo, Now yer Using the Kamahl approach:
>> "Why are people so unkind"  Sob, sob, sniff. "SSDD" I think someone
>> here refers to it as. Hmmm, yes. Drink some cement ticco.
>
> Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
> complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?
>
> For fuck's sake, he chimes in with a reply to Daryl's post, and the very
> first action of his reply is to make an insulting comment of "Sounds
> like you need a good mechanic.". So he gets it back, and when he does he
> starts pissing and moaning like a little fucking kid who's had someone
> else blow out the candles on his birthday cake.
>
> Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me".
>
> I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in this
> group.
>
>
>

There you go grumpy. Attacking like a pack of rabid dogs.

You're quick to make comments about gang attacks and bullying but here
you have a classic example of it and you remain silent.

So why now?

On 2/02/2022 9:06 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 1:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 1/02/2022 2:29 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 01:54:26 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> Read the exchange and attack on me which Daryl evidently found
>>>> funny and then consider that I did try and help *and* was the first
>>>> to do so. If you think that was fair and reasonable, well I tried
>>>> to be a reasonable human being and help and look where that got
>>>> me.
>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Boo fuckin' Hoo, Now yer Using the Kamahl approach:
>>> "Why are people so unkind"  Sob, sob, sniff. "SSDD" I think someone
>>> here refers to it as. Hmmm, yes. Drink some cement ticco.
>>
>> Jesus H fucking Christ! This stupid cunt has the worst persecution
>> complex that's ever been seen here, doesn't he?
>>
>> For fuck's sake, he chimes in with a reply to Daryl's post, and the
>> very first action of his reply is to make an insulting comment of
>> "Sounds like you need a good mechanic.". So he gets it back, and when
>> he does he starts pissing and moaning like a little fucking kid who's
>> had someone else blow out the candles on his birthday cake.
>>
>> Whinge whinge fucking whinge. "I'm a victim. Everyone's attacking me".
>>
>> I can't remember the last time there was a bigger fucking *sook* in
>> this group.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> There you go grumpy. Attacking like a pack of rabid dogs.
>
> You're quick to make comments about gang attacks and bullying but here
> you have a classic example of it and you remain silent.
>
> So why now?

Well you do sort of look like a hypocrite clocky when you started by
abusing Daryl. Seems to be that you don't mind throwing shit but don't
like when it flies back in your face.

TBH I don't give a damn about your issues when you haven't got the balls
to stand up to any of the flc and allow them to do exactly the same
thing. That's my issue is that you permit some and complain about others
so build a bridge. As someone said... Karma