On 6/03/2022 7:36 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 6/3/2022 3:48 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 1:05 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 6/3/22 12:41, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's sole
>>>> talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to bamboozle the
>>>> guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance any cause of
>>>> humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him
>>>> than the floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail
>>>> devotes 20 pages to him. I know that people liked him but sheesh
>>>> whats next a week of national mourning?
>>>
>>> I dislike sporting identities being called *heroes*. Anyway, what an
>>> end, a heart attack after a tryst with an LBFMPBFR. The Bophut police
>>> will have remove the viagra from the scene if Warnie's travelling
>>> companions hadn't done so already. Bad for the *public image* of Koh
>>> Samui you see.
>>>
>> You disgust me.
>
> If anyone needs more proof of what a low life scum bag Xeno is see above.

Yep. The cunt of a thing just needs to crawl off and die somewhere.

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On 6/03/2022 7:02 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 5/3/2022 8:25 pm, lindsay wrote:

>>
>> Caught Marsh, Bowled Lillee. I dont know how many times I heard Alan
>> McGilvray and Jim Maxwell yell that pair... I grew up hearing that on
>> ABC radio. DK Lillee was my hero in my younger days, with Rod Marsh
>> right behind. I've some awesome pics of them at the MCG....
>
> I can do better than that:-)
> Got pictures of the wife and I with Dennis Lillee, meet him twice at a
> couple of trade shows and spent time chatting, he was very generous with
> his time and a terrific bloke with a great sense of humour.
> I reminded him of a ODI final against the West Indies at the MCG in 1989
> (I think it was 89), he was bowling to Viv Richards and he was starting
> his run up by pushing off the boundary fence, he laughed and said " I
> was a bit of a smart arse back then":-)

Lol :)

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On 6/03/2022 6:54 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 5/3/2022 8:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 5/03/2022 7:34 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 5/03/2022 8:33 am, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> 2022 is starting off *real* well....
>>>
>>> Well, for me, it's not so bad. I just had my tree puller delivered:
>>> "The Jaws of Death" :-) https://imgur.com/a/OYZX1Ya So Labour Day
>>> weekend for me is looking pretty good. What I cant slash, I'll simply
>>> pull out and burn. We're already planning some mods.. a 20l drum of
>>> diesel thats sprays the manuka as it comes out of the ground, and an
>>> igniter once it's out of the ground.. :-)
>>
>> Looks awesome :)
>>
>>> Just booked my 3rd cruise to the Islands, and this time, we're in a/the
>>> penthouse suite :-) Missus doesnt know yet, so that should produce a
>>> smile, provided we're allowed to go....
>>
>> Fingers crossed. I think life is slowly returning to normal, and short
>> of there being another Covid variant that is significantly worse than
>> Omicron I can't see us going backwards to any significant degree.
>
> Yep, this time next week we will be in Brisbane, first time we have been
> out of Vic since before Covid.

Nice.

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On 6/03/2022 8:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 6:31 pm, Daryl wrote:

>> Would you say the same thing about Bradman?
>> Many people and I'm one of them rate him only second to Bradman in
>> Cricket, the only other Australian sports person I'd rate as anywhere
>> near those 2 is Sir Jack Brabham.
>
> He belonged to a different era, things move much more quickly these
> days, I'm not sure that millennials other than cricket tragics would
> think of him as anything other than somebody that they vaguely remember
> being mentioned by their parents.

Not sure that I understand what this comment has any relevance to.
People's "greatness" doesn't end when they retire.

> You'd probably have a hard time finding people under 40 who remember
> Jack Brabham.

I would think that would be a fairly safe bet considering he retired
over 50 years ago :)

>> I understand what you are saying and I've said much the same when some
>> "celebrity" has passed away and the press has IMHO gone overboard but
>> as I said above their contribution does have value.
>> I suspect that in Warne's case the press going over the top was as
>> much to do with the sudden and unexpected nature of his death than
>> anything else, if he had been in his 80's and he died after a long
>> illness the coverage would have been more subdued.
>
> I'm pretty sure that his lifestyle killed him.

Are you? And when did you carry out the autopsy? :)

Was it a heart attack? Was there any history of congenital heart disease
in his family? Did he have an anaphelactic reaction to something? Did he
just need a good hard shit?

For fuck's sake :)

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On 6/03/2022 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 4:48 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 2:05 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 6/3/22 12:41, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's sole
>>>> talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to bamboozle the
>>>> guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance any cause of
>>>> humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him
>>>> than the floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail
>>>> devotes 20 pages to him. I know that people liked him but sheesh
>>>> whats next a week of national mourning?
>>>
>>> I dislike sporting identities being called *heroes*.
>>
>>
>> yes, so do I. call them an icon, or something else, but not hero.
>>
>
> I don't call them heroes either. Nevertheless Warne is still a legend
> of the game and did a lot of good things off the field as well (and
> some shitty things but nobody is perfect).

yeah legend is good; cricket legend, football legend, etc., and I don't
agree that just because someone is famous they should be expected to
lead a blameless life.

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"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
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"His self serving ego pumping comments just
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On 6/03/2022 8:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 6/3/22 19:48, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 2:05 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 6/3/22 12:41, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's sole
>>>> talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to bamboozle the
>>>> guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance any cause of
>>>> humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him
>>>> than the floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail
>>>> devotes 20 pages to him. I know that people liked him but sheesh
>>>> whats next a week of national mourning?
>>>
>>> I dislike sporting identities being called *heroes*.
>>
>>
>> yes, so do I. call them an icon, or something else, but not hero.
>>
> Yes indeed! Want some *heroes* to look up to? Then look to those
> *civilians* taking up arms against the Russian invaders yet facing
> sure death because they are hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned. They
> are the true heroes in my book.

for sure!

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FUCK PUTIN!!

"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 6/03/2022 8:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 6:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 6/3/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:

>> Yes and no, helping people and possibly the entire nation feel better
>> about themselves cannot be said as not contributing anything.
>> There is value to peoples well being from sport and entertainment.
>>
>>
>>> but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him than the
>>> floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail devotes 20 pages
>>> to him. I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>> national mourning?
>>
>> Agree the news media are well and truly over the top about it but
>> maybe they think that making positive statements about someone who was
>> a hero to many will help take their minds of all the other negative shit.
>>
>>
> Personally, I don't like the way that the word "Hero"is bandied about
> these days, it always used to mean somebody who had given of themselves
> usually by putting themselves in danger to help others.

"Hero" means many things to many people, and according to the dictionary
I have here it simply means "people who are admired for their courage
and/or achievements". It gives no definition as to what those
"achievements" may be.

Personally I don't see sports people as "heroes", but then I don't see
cops, firefighters or ambo's as heroes either as that's what they sign
up for.
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On 6/03/2022 8:27 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 6:09 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 6:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2022 4:21 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 6/03/2022 4:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 6/03/2022 10:55 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/03/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's
>>>>>>> sole talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to
>>>>>>> bamboozle the guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance
>>>>>>> any cause of humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted
>>>>>>> more time to him than the floods and Ukraine combined, and
>>>>>>> todays Courier Mail devotes 20 pages to him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could say the exact same thing about every single "celebrity"
>>>>>> in history. Mozart. The Beatles. Jesse Owens. Tiger Woods.
>>>>>> Jackson Pollock. William Shakespeare. Nellie Melba. Eddie Van
>>>>>> Halen. You name it. None of them ever set out to "advance the
>>>>>> cause of humanity" by their actions, but the effects of their
>>>>>> being were *enormous* and felt all over the world. They brought
>>>>>> pleasure to many, both directly and indirectly, and inspired
>>>>>> other people to greatness and still do to this day. That can
>>>>>> never be a bad thing, and in a world where pain and hurt get a
>>>>>> disproportionate share of the daily headlines there is nothing
>>>>>> wrong in recognising people for their positive achievements and
>>>>>> to remember them for the joy and happiness they brought to many.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with that 100%.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>>>>>> national mourning?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Victorian State Government has offered the family a state
>>>>>> funeral. People want to pay their respects to someone who they
>>>>>> admired and who was recognised as the best in the world at what
>>>>>> they did, and I don't have a problem with that. In fact I would
>>>>>> think someone like Warne receiving a State Funeral is probably
>>>>>> more deserving than some others who have been awarded that honour
>>>>>> in recent times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't say I was ever a huge Cricket fanatic, but I liked
>>>>>> watching a game every now and then and always enjoyed watching
>>>>>> Warne play as he was a game changer. He was a *brilliant*
>>>>>> cricketer in every respect, and he deserves all the accolades he
>>>>>> gets. You might not have been a fan and you're certainly well
>>>>>> within your rights to not give a shit about his passing, but to
>>>>>> dismiss the public and media reaction to his untimely death as
>>>>>> "out of proportion" is not only inconsiderate but demonstrates
>>>>>> absolute ignorance about just how popular he was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's up to you, but in being critical of the response to his
>>>>>> death all you're managing to achieve is to make yourself out to
>>>>>> be the miserably insensitive prick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed again 100%. Warnie was a game changer and a master of the
>>>>> art of spin bowling. He inspired many kids to play cricket exactly
>>>>> because he was so relatable plus he did a lot for the game off the
>>>>> pitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith is just a sour old insensitive cunt who only cares about
>>>>> boosting his ego by diminishing other peoples achievements.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck him.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suppose he'll say now.. "haha I wasn't being serious" idiot that
>>>> he is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nope, I meant every word and I'll stand by them.
>>
>>
>> given that previously you've said your posts weren't serious, shirley
>> in futerer you should preface them with "Serious content follows" or
>> "Non-Serious content follows"
>
> Repeat that in english not gibberish.
>
>>> Unlike you I don't bend with the flow.
>>
>>
>> flows don't bend they divert. perhaps analogy is not your thing?
>> (among others)
>
> What an idiotic statement, you seem to have a comprehension problem, I
> said that you bend *WITH* the flow not that you bend the flow.
>

nup it's wrong to say 'bend with the flow' because a flow doesn't bend.
'flow with the tide' would be ok, because that's what tides do. i'm
forming the opinion that your unwilling to ever admit you're wrong.

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"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"What a pair! Not a single word of rebuttal or reason,
just cretinous abuse" - Alvey on jonz and noddy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy
"your opinion isn't worth 2 knobs of goat shit"
- Xeno on Grubby Tech

On 6/03/2022 8:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 8:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 6:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>
>>> Yes and no, helping people and possibly the entire nation feel better
>>> about themselves cannot be said as not contributing anything.
>>> There is value to peoples well being from sport and entertainment.
>>>
>>>
>>>> but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him than the
>>>> floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail devotes 20
>>>> pages to him. I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a
>>>> week of national mourning?
>>>
>>> Agree the news media are well and truly over the top about it but
>>> maybe they think that making positive statements about someone who
>>> was a hero to many will help take their minds of all the other
>>> negative shit.
>>>
>>>
>> Personally, I don't like the way that the word "Hero"is bandied about
>> these days, it always used to mean somebody who had given of
>> themselves usually by putting themselves in danger to help others.
>
> "Hero" means many things to many people, and according to the dictionary
> I have here it simply means "people who are admired for their courage
> and/or achievements". It gives no definition as to what those
> "achievements" may be.
>
> Personally I don't see sports people as "heroes", but then I don't see
> cops, firefighters or ambo's as heroes either as that's what they sign
> up for.

I do think that the doctor that I mentioned before does qualify.

On 6/03/2022 4:09 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 6:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 4:21 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2022 4:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 6/03/2022 10:55 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 6/03/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's
>>>>>> sole talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to
>>>>>> bamboozle the guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance
>>>>>> any cause of humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted
>>>>>> more time to him than the floods and Ukraine combined, and todays
>>>>>> Courier Mail devotes 20 pages to him.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could say the exact same thing about every single "celebrity"
>>>>> in history. Mozart. The Beatles. Jesse Owens. Tiger Woods. Jackson
>>>>> Pollock. William Shakespeare. Nellie Melba. Eddie Van Halen. You
>>>>> name it. None of them ever set out to "advance the cause of
>>>>> humanity" by their actions, but the effects of their being were
>>>>> *enormous* and felt all over the world. They brought pleasure to
>>>>> many, both directly and indirectly, and inspired other people to
>>>>> greatness and still do to this day. That can never be a bad thing,
>>>>> and in a world where pain and hurt get a disproportionate share of
>>>>> the daily headlines there is nothing wrong in recognising people
>>>>> for their positive achievements and to remember them for the joy
>>>>> and happiness they brought to many.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree with that 100%.
>>>>
>>>>>> I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>>>>> national mourning?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Victorian State Government has offered the family a state
>>>>> funeral. People want to pay their respects to someone who they
>>>>> admired and who was recognised as the best in the world at what
>>>>> they did, and I don't have a problem with that. In fact I would
>>>>> think someone like Warne receiving a State Funeral is probably more
>>>>> deserving than some others who have been awarded that honour in
>>>>> recent times.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't say I was ever a huge Cricket fanatic, but I liked watching
>>>>> a game every now and then and always enjoyed watching Warne play as
>>>>> he was a game changer. He was a *brilliant* cricketer in every
>>>>> respect, and he deserves all the accolades he gets. You might not
>>>>> have been a fan and you're certainly well within your rights to not
>>>>> give a shit about his passing, but to dismiss the public and media
>>>>> reaction to his untimely death as "out of proportion" is not only
>>>>> inconsiderate but demonstrates absolute ignorance about just how
>>>>> popular he was.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's up to you, but in being critical of the response to his death
>>>>> all you're managing to achieve is to make yourself out to be the
>>>>> miserably insensitive prick.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed again 100%. Warnie was a game changer and a master of the art
>>>> of spin bowling. He inspired many kids to play cricket exactly
>>>> because he was so relatable plus he did a lot for the game off the
>>>> pitch.
>>>>
>>>> Keith is just a sour old insensitive cunt who only cares about
>>>> boosting his ego by diminishing other peoples achievements.
>>>>
>>>> Fuck him.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I suppose he'll say now.. "haha I wasn't being serious" idiot that he
>>> is.
>>>
>>>
>> Nope, I meant every word and I'll stand by them.
>
>
> given that previously you've said your posts weren't serious, shirley in
> futerer you should preface them with "Serious content follows" or
> "Non-Serious content follows"
>

keiths post are only not serious after he's just has just had his arse
handed to him.

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it is unproven, he is lying."

On 6/03/2022 9:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 4:09 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 6:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2022 4:21 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 6/03/2022 4:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 6/03/2022 10:55 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/03/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's
>>>>>>> sole talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to
>>>>>>> bamboozle the guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance
>>>>>>> any cause of humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted
>>>>>>> more time to him than the floods and Ukraine combined, and todays
>>>>>>> Courier Mail devotes 20 pages to him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could say the exact same thing about every single "celebrity"
>>>>>> in history. Mozart. The Beatles. Jesse Owens. Tiger Woods. Jackson
>>>>>> Pollock. William Shakespeare. Nellie Melba. Eddie Van Halen. You
>>>>>> name it. None of them ever set out to "advance the cause of
>>>>>> humanity" by their actions, but the effects of their being were
>>>>>> *enormous* and felt all over the world. They brought pleasure to
>>>>>> many, both directly and indirectly, and inspired other people to
>>>>>> greatness and still do to this day. That can never be a bad thing,
>>>>>> and in a world where pain and hurt get a disproportionate share of
>>>>>> the daily headlines there is nothing wrong in recognising people
>>>>>> for their positive achievements and to remember them for the joy
>>>>>> and happiness they brought to many.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with that 100%.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>>>>>> national mourning?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Victorian State Government has offered the family a state
>>>>>> funeral. People want to pay their respects to someone who they
>>>>>> admired and who was recognised as the best in the world at what
>>>>>> they did, and I don't have a problem with that. In fact I would
>>>>>> think someone like Warne receiving a State Funeral is probably
>>>>>> more deserving than some others who have been awarded that honour
>>>>>> in recent times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't say I was ever a huge Cricket fanatic, but I liked
>>>>>> watching a game every now and then and always enjoyed watching
>>>>>> Warne play as he was a game changer. He was a *brilliant*
>>>>>> cricketer in every respect, and he deserves all the accolades he
>>>>>> gets. You might not have been a fan and you're certainly well
>>>>>> within your rights to not give a shit about his passing, but to
>>>>>> dismiss the public and media reaction to his untimely death as
>>>>>> "out of proportion" is not only inconsiderate but demonstrates
>>>>>> absolute ignorance about just how popular he was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's up to you, but in being critical of the response to his death
>>>>>> all you're managing to achieve is to make yourself out to be the
>>>>>> miserably insensitive prick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed again 100%. Warnie was a game changer and a master of the
>>>>> art of spin bowling. He inspired many kids to play cricket exactly
>>>>> because he was so relatable plus he did a lot for the game off the
>>>>> pitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith is just a sour old insensitive cunt who only cares about
>>>>> boosting his ego by diminishing other peoples achievements.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck him.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suppose he'll say now.. "haha I wasn't being serious" idiot that
>>>> he is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nope, I meant every word and I'll stand by them.
>>
>>
>> given that previously you've said your posts weren't serious, shirley
>> in futerer you should preface them with "Serious content follows" or
>> "Non-Serious content follows"
>>
>
>
> keiths post are only not serious after he's just has just had his arse
> handed to him.
>
>
Annd I suppose that you are the chief arse hander what a laugh.

On 6/03/2022 8:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 8:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 6:31 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
>>> Would you say the same thing about Bradman?
>>> Many people and I'm one of them rate him only second to Bradman in
>>> Cricket, the only other Australian sports person I'd rate as anywhere
>>> near those 2 is Sir Jack Brabham.
>>
>> He belonged to a different era, things move much more quickly these
>> days, I'm not sure that millennials other than cricket tragics would
>> think of him as anything other than somebody that they vaguely
>> remember being mentioned by their parents.
>
> Not sure that I understand what this comment has any relevance to.
> People's "greatness" doesn't end when they retire.
>
>> You'd probably have a hard time finding people under 40 who remember
>> Jack Brabham.
>
> I would think that would be a fairly safe bet considering he retired
> over 50 years ago :)
>
>>> I understand what you are saying and I've said much the same when
>>> some "celebrity" has passed away and the press has IMHO gone
>>> overboard but as I said above their contribution does have value.
>>> I suspect that in Warne's case the press going over the top was as
>>> much to do with the sudden and unexpected nature of his death than
>>> anything else, if he had been in his 80's and he died after a long
>>> illness the coverage would have been more subdued.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that his lifestyle killed him.
>
> Are you? And when did you carry out the autopsy? :)
>
> Was it a heart attack? Was there any history of congenital heart disease
> in his family? Did he have an anaphelactic reaction to something? Did he
> just need a good hard shit?
>
> For fuck's sake :)

Lifestyle is the major cause of early heart attacks in men, and Warne
didn't exactly live a healthy lifestyle. In fact it is reported that he
was trying to redress it with extreme dieting before his death.

On 6/03/2022 10:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 4:09 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 6:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2022 4:21 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 6/03/2022 4:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 6/03/2022 10:55 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/03/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's
>>>>>>> sole talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to
>>>>>>> bamboozle the guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance
>>>>>>> any cause of humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted
>>>>>>> more time to him than the floods and Ukraine combined, and
>>>>>>> todays Courier Mail devotes 20 pages to him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could say the exact same thing about every single "celebrity"
>>>>>> in history. Mozart. The Beatles. Jesse Owens. Tiger Woods.
>>>>>> Jackson Pollock. William Shakespeare. Nellie Melba. Eddie Van
>>>>>> Halen. You name it. None of them ever set out to "advance the
>>>>>> cause of humanity" by their actions, but the effects of their
>>>>>> being were *enormous* and felt all over the world. They brought
>>>>>> pleasure to many, both directly and indirectly, and inspired
>>>>>> other people to greatness and still do to this day. That can
>>>>>> never be a bad thing, and in a world where pain and hurt get a
>>>>>> disproportionate share of the daily headlines there is nothing
>>>>>> wrong in recognising people for their positive achievements and
>>>>>> to remember them for the joy and happiness they brought to many.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with that 100%.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>>>>>> national mourning?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Victorian State Government has offered the family a state
>>>>>> funeral. People want to pay their respects to someone who they
>>>>>> admired and who was recognised as the best in the world at what
>>>>>> they did, and I don't have a problem with that. In fact I would
>>>>>> think someone like Warne receiving a State Funeral is probably
>>>>>> more deserving than some others who have been awarded that honour
>>>>>> in recent times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't say I was ever a huge Cricket fanatic, but I liked
>>>>>> watching a game every now and then and always enjoyed watching
>>>>>> Warne play as he was a game changer. He was a *brilliant*
>>>>>> cricketer in every respect, and he deserves all the accolades he
>>>>>> gets. You might not have been a fan and you're certainly well
>>>>>> within your rights to not give a shit about his passing, but to
>>>>>> dismiss the public and media reaction to his untimely death as
>>>>>> "out of proportion" is not only inconsiderate but demonstrates
>>>>>> absolute ignorance about just how popular he was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's up to you, but in being critical of the response to his
>>>>>> death all you're managing to achieve is to make yourself out to
>>>>>> be the miserably insensitive prick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed again 100%. Warnie was a game changer and a master of the
>>>>> art of spin bowling. He inspired many kids to play cricket exactly
>>>>> because he was so relatable plus he did a lot for the game off the
>>>>> pitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith is just a sour old insensitive cunt who only cares about
>>>>> boosting his ego by diminishing other peoples achievements.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck him.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suppose he'll say now.. "haha I wasn't being serious" idiot that
>>>> he is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nope, I meant every word and I'll stand by them.
>>
>>
>> given that previously you've said your posts weren't serious, shirley
>> in futerer you should preface them with "Serious content follows" or
>> "Non-Serious content follows"
>>
>
>
> keiths post are only not serious after he's just has just had his arse
> handed to him.
>
>

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On 6/03/2022 11:01 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 8:02 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> I'm pretty sure that his lifestyle killed him.
>>
>> Are you? And when did you carry out the autopsy? :)
>>
>> Was it a heart attack? Was there any history of congenital heart
>> disease in his family? Did he have an anaphelactic reaction to
>> something? Did he just need a good hard shit?
>>
>> For fuck's sake :)
>
> Lifestyle is the major cause of early heart attacks in men, and Warne
> didn't exactly live a healthy lifestyle.

That may be so, but until the results of the autopsy are in no one has
any real idea on the cause of death let alone alone if his "lifestyle"
was a contributing factor, so how you can be "pretty sure" of what
killed him is an absolute nonsense :)

> In fact it is reported that he was trying to redress it with extreme dieting before his death.

I don't know about "extreme dieting". I read that he was on a health
kick which is why he was at the resort in the first place, and I also
read that he had seen a doctor about chest pains in the days leading up
to his arrival.

None of that is conclusive proof that he had a heart attack, or that his
"lifestyle" played any part in it.

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On 6/03/2022 10:49 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 8:31 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> "Hero" means many things to many people, and according to the
>> dictionary I have here it simply means "people who are admired for
>> their courage and/or achievements". It gives no definition as to what
>> those "achievements" may be.
>>
>> Personally I don't see sports people as "heroes", but then I don't see
>> cops, firefighters or ambo's as heroes either as that's what they sign
>> up for.
>
> I do think that the doctor that I mentioned before does qualify.

He may very well do. I'm sure he'll be remembered as such by his family
& friends.

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On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:37:10 +0800, Clocky wrote:

>
> Keith is just a sour old insensitive cunt who only cares about boosting
> his ego by diminishing other peoples achievements.

Yep. And the other key learning here is that keith was crap at sport.

alvey
I once sat next to Warne at dinner once, Birmingham 1993), and the rude
bastard never said a word to me. Being at a different table was no excuse.

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On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 16:15:03 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 6/03/2022 3:48 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 1:05 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> I dislike sporting identities being called *heroes*. Anyway, what an
>>> end, a heart attack after a tryst with an LBFMPBFR. The Bophut police
>>> will have remove the viagra from the scene if Warnie's travelling
>>> companions hadn't done so already. Bad for the *public image* of Koh
>>> Samui you see.
>>>
>> You disgust me.
>
> Surely you're not surprised, are you?
>
> This cock sucking attention whore has no limits, and will resort to any
> kind of bullshit to get the attention his personality disorder so
> desperately craves.

And there it is folks! A new WR in irony!

You gotta larf.

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On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 18:09:07 +1100, Xeno wrote:

> On 6/3/2022 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 1:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2022 3:48 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 6/03/2022 1:05 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I dislike sporting identities being called *heroes*. Anyway, what an
>>>>> end, a heart attack after a tryst with an LBFMPBFR. The Bophut
>>>>> police will have remove the viagra from the scene if Warnie's
>>>>> travelling companions hadn't done so already. Bad for the *public
>>>>> image* of Koh Samui you see.
>>>>>
>>>> You disgust me.
>>>
>>> Surely you're not surprised, are you?
>>>
>>> This cock sucking attention whore has no limits, and will resort to
>>> any kind of bullshit to get the attention his personality disorder so
>>> desperately craves.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't piss on this miserable cunt if he was on fire in the
>>> gutter....
>>>
>>
>> You taking the moral high ground is amusing. You wish people people dead
>> and made comments about family members that are the most disgraceful
>> I've ever read in 20 odd years of usenet and I've read a lot of
>> disgusting commentary.
>>
>> Neither of you two clowns can take the moral high ground, you are both
>> despicable people in different ways.
>>
>> But that does not diminish my repulsion of Xeno's comments or show
>> support in any way before you start with suggesting that bullshit as you
>> invariably do. Just for the record.
>>
> Just for the record, the first thing my wife said, on reading about
> Warnie's death, was: "what was he doing there?" That place is well known
> for "discretion" and the cops in Bophut are as crooked as they come. Was
> just discussing this issue this morning with some friends down at the
> market. These friends are of the same opinion.

What could possibly be suspect about 4 middle-aged Western men going to
Thailand? Nope. Can't think of anything.

Aside: Medical opinion is specific and united on Viagra. If you have a
dodgy heart, you don't use it. But say someone prominent *did* use it and
carked it on the job. Would it be appropriate for the flag to be at
half-mast?

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On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 20:50:16 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 6/03/2022 7:36 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 6/3/2022 3:48 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2022 1:05 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/22 12:41, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's sole
>>>>> talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to bamboozle the
>>>>> guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance any cause of
>>>>> humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him
>>>>> than the floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail
>>>>> devotes 20 pages to him. I know that people liked him but sheesh
>>>>> whats next a week of national mourning?
>>>>
>>>> I dislike sporting identities being called *heroes*. Anyway, what an
>>>> end, a heart attack after a tryst with an LBFMPBFR. The Bophut police
>>>> will have remove the viagra from the scene if Warnie's travelling
>>>> companions hadn't done so already. Bad for the *public image* of Koh
>>>> Samui you see.
>>>>
>>> You disgust me.
>>
>> If anyone needs more proof of what a low life scum bag Xeno is see above.
>
> Yep. The cunt of a thing just needs to crawl off and die somewhere.

Here you go hypocrites! Munch on these Fraudster quotes.

Not quite. I wish you would die in a horrible Felching accident, but I'm
not that lucky. 12Feb18

Do the world a massive favour and just die somewhere quietly. 05Dec17

You should go fuck yourself and die horribly. 11Aug17

Fuck off and die you oxygen thieving fraud. 04Aug17

Hopefully you'll have a massive heart attack, or a brain aneurysm or
even a car accident, and die before aus.cars does. 26Apr17

If Krypsis were to suddenly die a massively painful death after his
"wife" got a bit carried away during one of their regularly scheduled
meat injection sessions and poked his epiglottis out the back of his
neck with her dick, I would throw a party and invite a few of the
regulars who might want to come along and celebrate the demise of a
despicable oxygen theiving conman. 26Apr17

Hopefully he'll die soon, and his incessant bullshit will die with him.
12May17

How that you are nothing but an obnoxious faking *cunt* that most people
would be happy to see die of cancer? 14Jan17

I fucking hate you with a passion and would happily see you die horribly.
30Dec16

Seeing you die horribly would be a gift to many. 26Dec16

It's time for you to die, and your bullshit to die with you. 06Dec16

A complete and utter fake that I wouldn't piss on if he was on fire.
18Oct18

If you were on fire out front of my house I'd throw petrol on you. 15Feb18

Except you Krypsis, but you know that, right? Just *die*, you bastard...
13Dec17

HTH

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On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 19:30:27 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 6/03/2022 6:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 6/3/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's sole
>>> talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to bamboozle the guy
>>> at the other end. He did nothing to to advance any cause of humanity,
>>
>> Yes and no, helping people and possibly the entire nation feel better
>> about themselves cannot be said as not contributing anything.
>> There is value to peoples well being from sport and entertainment.
>>
>>> but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him than the
>>> floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail devotes 20 pages
>>> to him. I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>> national mourning?
>>
>> Agree the news media are well and truly over the top about it but maybe
>> they think that making positive statements about someone who was a hero
>> to many will help take their minds of all the other negative shit.
>>
> Personally, I don't like the way that the word "Hero"is bandied about
> these days,

Neither do I.

"A handsome man called zero,
Generally considered a hero,
He fixes old planes,
Shoots alvey down in flames,
And still has time for a beer-oh."

Most unbecoming, and insulting to 'real' heroes.

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On 6/3/2022 8:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 5:54 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 5/3/2022 8:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 5/03/2022 7:34 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>> On 5/03/2022 8:33 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2022 is starting off *real* well....
>>>>
>>>> Well, for me, it's not so bad. I just had my tree puller delivered:
>>>> "The Jaws of Death" :-) https://imgur.com/a/OYZX1Ya So Labour Day
>>>> weekend for me is looking pretty good. What I cant slash, I'll
>>>> simply pull out and burn. We're already planning some mods.. a 20l
>>>> drum of diesel thats sprays the manuka as it comes out of the
>>>> ground, and an igniter once it's out of the ground.. :-)
>>>
>>> Looks awesome :)
>>>
>>>> Just booked my 3rd cruise to the Islands, and this time, we're in a/the
>>>> penthouse suite :-) Missus doesnt know yet, so that should produce a
>>>> smile, provided we're allowed to go....
>>>
>>> Fingers crossed. I think life is slowly returning to normal, and
>>> short of there being another Covid variant that is significantly
>>> worse than Omicron I can't see us going backwards to any significant
>>> degree.
>>
>> Yep, this time next week we will be in Brisbane, first time we have
>> been out of Vic since before Covid.
>
> If you'll be in our area between Bris and the Sunshine Coast come and
> say hello.
>

I will be staying in Ningi so AFAIK that is somewhere near you?
What was the name of the museum and what times are you there?
I am looking forward to a museum tour:-)

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On 6/3/2022 6:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 2:45 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 6/03/2022 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2022 12:55 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 6/03/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's sole
>>>>> talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to bamboozle the
>>>>> guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance any cause of
>>>>> humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him
>>>>> than the floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail
>>>>> devotes 20 pages to him.
>>>>
>>>> You could say the exact same thing about every single "celebrity" in
>>>> history. Mozart. The Beatles. Jesse Owens. Tiger Woods. Jackson
>>>> Pollock. William Shakespeare. Nellie Melba. Eddie Van Halen.
>>>
>>> Not quite Warne will be forgotten within a generation, other than by
>>> a few cricket tragics. Most of the others have left something
>>> tangible behind.
>>
>> Yeah, I don't think so. Don Bradman is revered by many today as the
>> greatest batsman to ever play the game, despite his last test being
>> played almost 75 years ago and most people who hold that reverence
>> were not around to see him play and only know of him what they read in
>> the history books.
>>
>> You might think Warne was a Bogun who is undeserving of the amount of
>> attention he's currently getting, but he was named by Wisden's
>> Almanack as one of the top 5 players of the game in the last 100
>> years, and he was the only bowler to make the list.
>
> Obviously famous within that rather small circle.
>
>>>> You name it. None of them ever set out to "advance the cause of
>>>> humanity" by their actions, but the effects of their being were
>>>> *enormous* and felt all over the world. They brought pleasure to
>>>> many, both directly and indirectly, and inspired other people to
>>>> greatness and still do to this day.
>>>
>>> Warne may inspire a few kids to take up the game, but most of his
>>> influence diminished some time ago.
>>
>> Which happens to a lot of people after they hang up their gloves. That
>> doesn't diminish their achievements in any way.
>>
>>>>> I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>>>> national mourning?
>>>>
>>>> The Victorian State Government has offered the family a state
>>>> funeral. People want to pay their respects to someone who they
>>>> admired and who was recognised as the best in the world at what they
>>>> did, and I don't have a problem with that. In fact I would think
>>>> someone like Warne receiving a State Funeral is probably more
>>>> deserving than some others who have been awarded that honour in
>>>> recent times.
>>
>>> More of an effort to get political gain from a populist move
>>
>> Possibly, but we'll never know. They gave a state funeral to Bert
>> Newton, and I don't know if that resulted in any great return in the
>> polls.
>>
>>>> I can't say I was ever a huge Cricket fanatic, but I liked watching
>>>> a game every now and then and always enjoyed watching Warne play as
>>>> he was a game changer. He was a *brilliant* cricketer in every
>>>> respect, and he deserves all the accolades he gets.
>>>
>>> As I originally said he was very good in a very restricted field
>>
>> Yeah, so was Ayerton Senna. Do you remember the world's reaction when
>> he died?
>
> There were no 20 page supplements for him and worldwide he was far
> better known than Warne.

Was he?
There have been lots of documentaries and even a Senna movie and he
still gets mentioned in F1 commentary, Senna's death got massive
worldwide attention.
In countries like India cricket stars are treated like gods and there
are more than a billion Indians and a big percentage are cricket fans.
Even if Senna was as well or better known was he as popular, I certainly
know of Senna and admire his skill but I always thought of him as an
arrogant areshole, whilst Warnie could be a buffon he was a likeable
character.
>
>>>> You might not have been a fan and
>>>
>>> I'm certainly not a cricket fan despite being from a Yorkshire
>>> family, the thing is that a lot of others equally good at what they
>>> did, whether in sport or something actually useful have received far
>>> less adulation at their death.
>>
>> And who did you have in mind there?
>
> Just as an instance, a guy died up here in Queensland recently. He died
> rescuing somebody from the surf, he was also a highly regarded research
> doctor working on cures for diseases, not only did he die in a selfless
> act but his death leaves a hole in a worthwhile endeavor. It made about
> 20 secinds on the TV news and about 8 column inches in the paper.

Know what you mean, famous people get a lot of recognition and others
just as deserving get none.
Don't know who to blame for that, is it the media or the public who put
sports and other famous people up on pedestals?
Maybe the media who get paid massive sums for promoting various sports
or a bit of both?

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On 6/3/2022 8:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 6:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 6/3/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's sole
>>> talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to bamboozle the
>>> guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance any cause of
>>> humanity,
>>
>>
>> Yes and no, helping people and possibly the entire nation feel better
>> about themselves cannot be said as not contributing anything.
>> There is value to peoples well being from sport and entertainment.
>>
>>
>>> but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him than the
>>> floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail devotes 20 pages
>>> to him. I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>> national mourning?
>>
>> Agree the news media are well and truly over the top about it but
>> maybe they think that making positive statements about someone who was
>> a hero to many will help take their minds of all the other negative shit.
>>
>>
> Personally, I don't like the way that the word "Hero"is bandied about
> these days, it always used to mean somebody who had given of themselves
> usually by putting themselves in danger to help others.

Agree that the term is overused and in many instances not deserved but
as I've said previously there is big benefit to the community when
people are positive and happy and sports stars do that for people.
Hero's maybe not but they certainly contribute to community well being.

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On 7/03/2022 9:49 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 6/3/2022 6:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:

>>> Yeah, so was Ayerton Senna. Do you remember the world's reaction when
>>> he died?
>>
>> There were no 20 page supplements for him and worldwide he was far
>> better known than Warne.
>
> Was he?
> There have been lots of documentaries and even a Senna movie and he
> still gets mentioned in F1 commentary, Senna's death got massive
> worldwide attention.

It did indeed. If I remember correctly there was three days of mourning
in Brazil after Senna died, and I would expect the Brazilian print and
digital media went just as nuts over his death as the Aussie media has
about Warne's.

It's always a big deal in the home country, and the fact that Keith
can't see this is very strange indeed.

> In countries like India cricket stars are treated like gods and there
> are more than a billion Indians and a big percentage are cricket fans.
> Even if Senna was as well or better known was he as popular, I certainly
> know of Senna and admire his skill but I always thought of him as an
> arrogant areshole, whilst Warnie could be a buffon he was a likeable
> character.

And that's a big part of the reason why the death of such people become
big media stories. How relatable they were to the public.

Warne was an international sports star who was regarded by friend and
foe alike as the best there has ever been in his field, but moreover he
remained an "Aussie Larrikin" who never drifted far from his working
class roots despite his international celebrity status and it's that
"bogun" attitude that endeared his fans to him.

It's the ultimate movie script. Local boy becomes world beater, drinks
beer, smokes cigarettes, eats pies and fucks Liz Hurley. The only people
who didn't like him are those who were jealous :)

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On 6/3/2022 8:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 6/03/2022 6:31 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 6/3/2022 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2022 12:55 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 6/03/2022 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's all got out of proportion. Warne was a bogans bogan who's sole
>>>>> talent was to chuck a ball 22 yards in such a way to bamboozle the
>>>>> guy at the other end. He did nothing to to advance any cause of
>>>>> humanity, but still the SEQ channel 9 news devoted more time to him
>>>>> than the floods and Ukraine combined, and todays Courier Mail
>>>>> devotes 20 pages to him.
>>>>
>>>> You could say the exact same thing about every single "celebrity" in
>>>> history. Mozart. The Beatles. Jesse Owens. Tiger Woods. Jackson
>>>> Pollock. William Shakespeare. Nellie Melba. Eddie Van Halen.
>>>
>>> Not quite Warne will be forgotten within a generation, other than by
>>> a few cricket tragics. Most of the others have left something
>>> tangible behind.
>>
>> Would you say the same thing about Bradman?
>> Many people and I'm one of them rate him only second to Bradman in
>> Cricket, the only other Australian sports person I'd rate as anywhere
>> near those 2 is Sir Jack Brabham.
>
> He belonged to a different era, things move much more quickly these
> days, I'm not sure that millennials other than cricket tragics would
> think of him as anything other than somebody that they vaguely remember
> being mentioned by their parents.
>
> You'd probably have a hard time finding people under 40 who remember
> Jack Brabham.

In general yes but I hang around with lots of car racing participants, I
was at Sandown yesterday, in car racing circles he is a god and even the
young ones know all about him.
I meet him 4 times and 3 of those times were at Phillip Island and I was
very lucky just to get near him, everywhere he went there was a big
crowd except the last time when I was admiring one of his cars talking
to the owner and he came up to us and said hello, to a car racing tragic
like me it was like being in the company of royalty.

>
>>>> You name it. None of them ever set out to "advance the cause of
>>>> humanity" by their actions, but the effects of their being were
>>>> *enormous* and felt all over the world. They brought pleasure to
>>>> many, both directly and indirectly, and inspired other people to
>>>> greatness and still do to this day.
>>>
>>> Warne may inspire a few kids to take up the game, but most of his
>>> influence diminished some time ago.
>>
>> Not at all, before Warne leg spin and spin bowling in general was a
>> dying art, now its very popular.
>> Both my Grandkids have started playing cricket this season, the town
>> where they live only has a population of 11,000 yet they have more
>> than 15 senior and junior teams so cricket is as popular as ever and
>> partly due to super stars like Warne.
>>>
>>>> That can never be a bad thing, and in a world where pain and hurt
>>>> get a disproportionate share of the daily headlines there is nothing
>>>> wrong in recognising people for their positive achievements and to
>>>> remember them for the joy and happiness they brought to many.
>>>>
>>>>> I know that people liked him but sheesh whats next a week of
>>>>> national mourning?

>>>>
>>>> The Victorian State Government has offered the family a state
>>>> funeral. People want to pay their respects to someone who they
>>>> admired and who was recognised as the best in the world at what they
>>>> did, and I don't have a problem with that. In fact I would think
>>>> someone like Warne receiving a State Funeral is probably more
>>>> deserving than some others who have been awarded that honour in
>>>> recent times.
>>>
>>> More of an effort to get political gain from a populist move
>>
>> Very likely.
>>>
>>>> I can't say I was ever a huge Cricket fanatic, but I liked watching
>>>> a game every now and then and always enjoyed watching Warne play as
>>>> he was a game changer. He was a *brilliant* cricketer in every
>>>> respect, and he deserves all the accolades he gets.
>>>
>>> As I originally said he was very good in a very restricted field

Restricted?
As a sport cricket is huge especially in countries like India, its only
second to soccer in world wide popularity with approx 2.5 billion fans
and without a doubt everyone of those fans would know who Warnie was.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html

>>>
>>>> You might not have been a fan and
>>>
>>> I'm certainly not a cricket fan despite being from a Yorkshire
>>> family, the thing is that a lot of others equally good at what they
>>> did, whether in sport or something actually useful have received far
>>> less adulation at their death.
>>
>> That's true but how do you value the contribution sports stars and/or
>> entertainers make to the mental health of the population?
>> It's not as easy to quantify that value as it is to quantify the
>> contribution of say the scientists who invented Covid vaccines but
>> they both have value.
>>>
>>>> you're certainly well within your rights to not give a shit about
>>>> his passing, but to dismiss the public and media reaction to his
>>>> untimely death as "out of proportion" is not only inconsiderate but
>>>> demonstrates absolute ignorance about just how popular he was.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what the public reaction has been, it's the media that
>>> have gone overboard, a lot of people on the east coast have more
>>> immediate things to worry about.
>>>
>>>> It's up to you, but in being critical of the response to his death
>>>> all you're managing to achieve is to make yourself out to be the
>>>> miserably insensitive prick.
>>>
>>> Whatever, but I don't think that I'm Robinson Crusoe in my view.
>>
>> I understand what you are saying and I've said much the same when some
>> "celebrity" has passed away and the press has IMHO gone overboard but
>> as I said above their contribution does have value.
>> I suspect that in Warne's case the press going over the top was as
>> much to do with the sudden and unexpected nature of his death than
>> anything else, if he had been in his 80's and he died after a long
>> illness the coverage would have been more subdued.
>
> I'm pretty sure that his lifestyle killed him.
>
Very likely.

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Daryl