On 31/03/2023 08:53, Ace wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:05:45 +0100, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 16:57:19 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>> Not convinced. In general one's non-dominant hand is stronger, so for
>>> most right-handed people it's easier to fret using the left hand than
>>> the right.
>>
>> Interesting. I think I do have slightly stronger muscles in places on
>> my left, which kind of supports that. But which hand has to be the
>> most dexterous?
>
> The right one needs to be able to select individual strings with
> individual fingers in traditional 'classical' styles or finger-picking
> like wot I do, or indeed the precise plectrum use of rock lead guitar
> playing.
>
>> I would have thought, holding a guitar conventionally,
>> the left, with strumming a relatively simple task for the right,
>
> Naah. Even if you're 'only' strumming it there's still a lot more
> precision about which string(s) you hit first, which you hit hardest,
> particularly so if using fingers rather than a pick.

So, Celts and other traditionally harp-playing races tend towards
non-selectivity?

>> I'm not a guitarist though.

Nor I. I did scrape a 'cello when I was at school, though.

> You don't say?
Oh yes I do.

>>> For boarding, yeah, I dunno, but I would always stand with my left

>>> foot forward for anything like shooting, throwing a ball, which may
>>> have more to do with leverage or balance, but it would be a default
>>> starting position for anything.
>>
>> Most right-handed people use their right eye to aim a rifle,

I don't think so.

> Yeah, but why? I suspect that's a product of the way it's held, not
> the reason. The stronger left hand/arm is supporting the weight of the
> barrel, and the left foot is therefore forward to balance that.
> Similarly for earlier weapons, be it a bow and arrow, with the left
> hand again doing more of the work and the more precise right used for
> aiming and timing the release, or a simple spear or stick where you
> want to get maximum leverage for the more accurate right hand.

My head drops to align the left eye with both iron and peep-sights, and
I use the lefteye offhand or supported using a telescope sight.

I hold a rifle, air or bangstick normally on the right shoulder. I might
have to get one out to see if I'm right about which eye I use for
sighting, though. (Agency won't let the carers go upstairs *because* of
the armoury: dunno if it's because they're afraid I'llI'll use one
ofbthe guns on a carer, or more likely, one of them will be tempted to
take *me* out...)

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 31/03/2023 09:46, Pipl wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:53:15 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:05:45 +0100, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Most right-handed people use their right eye to aim a rifle,
>>
>> Yeah, but why? I suspect that's a product of the way it's held, not
>> the reason.
>
> Don't think so - I certainly have a dominant right eye. Overly so, I
> think; I have a lazy left eye. A swift Google suggests that eye
> dominance does usually match handedness.

Hmm, as someone who is long sighted in one and short in the other, the
dominance depends on the distance I need to see.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 10:56:20 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>
>On 31/03/2023 09:46, Pipl wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:53:15 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:05:45 +0100, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Most right-handed people use their right eye to aim a rifle,
>>>
>>> Yeah, but why? I suspect that's a product of the way it's held, not
>>> the reason.
>>
>> Don't think so - I certainly have a dominant right eye. Overly so, I
>> think; I have a lazy left eye. A swift Google suggests that eye
>> dominance does usually match handedness.
>
>Hmm, as someone who is long sighted in one and short in the other, the
>dominance depends on the distance I need to see.

Most likely not, actually.

It's not about which one is best suited to the task - the combination
of both is nearly always better than either one on its own. Try this
simple test, for close-up and distant objects - make a circle with
your finger and thumb and, with both eyes open, look at an object
through the circle. Then close each eye in turn. The dominant eye is
the one that keeps the object in the circle. This may or may not be
the one best able to focus on the object.
It's almost impossible to cheat.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 11:35:15 +0000, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:

>On 24/03/2023 10:51, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>> Going off at a tangent, are some people 'left-footed' in a similar way
>> to which some are 'left-handed'?
>
>Yes, but: I'm right-footed for kicking purposes, but regarded as
>left-footed for snowboarding.

Whereas I throw darts right-handed but cricket balls left-handed. When
10-pin-bowling I alternate. My right hand is stronger, which means I
bat left-handed to allow the top hand to do the work.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

On 31/03/2023 01:06, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 30/03/2023 16:49, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>>
>> On this point I do tend to agree with Champ that starting from scratch
>> it should be do-able either way.  However, the Hendrixes (and
>> McCartneys) of this world obviously disagree.  That being said,
>> left-handed guitar players have their own sub-variants. There are
>> lefties who simply turn a standard guitar (and chords) upside down.
>> There are those who use a standard guitar and reverse the strings
>> (which at least means the chord diagrams are mirror images) and also
>> those who pay extortionate amounts for a left-handed guitar. (There
>> may even be those using a lefty guitar with the strings 'upside down'
>> - but I've not noticed any.)
>
> Hendrix played both left-hand stringing and right-hand stringing (ie
> both the right way up and upside down). I don't think there's a
> particular price premium on l/h guitars, it's just a matter of whether a
> particular model is made in both l/h and r/h forms.

Fairynuff

>> I am right handed - but even I was once told by an elderly master
>> mariner that I tie turk's head knots 'left handed'!
>
> I can't remember why, but a couple of years ago I was looking at
> instructions for tying a shoelace. All the instructions (I looked at a
> few, plus a Youtube video or two) had the hands reversed from the way I
> do it, they all have the right hand holding the standing loop and the
> left hand doing the clever stuff. Seems absolutely ridiculous to me.

Yes, I've been told I tie them 'wrongly' too...

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 31/03/2023 08:34, Ace wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 16:49:46 +0100, "chrisnd @ukrm"
> <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On 30/03/2023 15:57, Ace wrote:
>>> In general one's non-dominant hand is stronger, so for
>>> most right-handed people it's easier to fret using the left hand than
>>> the right.
>>
>> Really? Surely one's non-dominant hand is the weaker? I might even
>> argue that as some sort of definition!
>
> When you hit two rocks together you'd tend to hold the big one with
> your left hand and use the right ohand to hit it precisely with the
> smaller rock.

Agreed - but does precision correlate with dominance?
(Seriously, I don't know)

> Which hand do you use to try to unscrew a tight jar lid?

The right...

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 10:51:07 +0100, RustyHinge
<rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

>On 31/03/2023 08:53, Ace wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:05:45 +0100, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Most right-handed people use their right eye to aim a rifle,
>
>I don't think so.

Sure about that? If you hold a rifle right-handed then it's pretty
hard to use any sight that's centred on the weapon with the other eye.
Left handed, if the weapon allows (which excludes the SA80, the old
84mm recoiless rifle etc) then you'd have to use your left eye. I'd
say almost impossible to use the opposite eye with the old SLR. Even
pressing one's cheek too hard on the butt using the "correct" eye for
the hold" can give you bruises when you fire.

--

-Pip

On 31/03/2023 16:07, Pipl wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 10:51:07 +0100, RustyHinge
> <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 31/03/2023 08:53, Ace wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:05:45 +0100, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Most right-handed people use their right eye to aim a rifle,
>>
>> I don't think so.
>
> Sure about that? If you hold a rifle right-handed then it's pretty
> hard to use any sight that's centred on the weapon with the other eye.
> Left handed, if the weapon allows (which excludes the SA80, the old
> 84mm recoiless rifle etc) then you'd have to use your left eye. I'd
> say almost impossible to use the opposite eye with the old SLR. Even
> pressing one's cheek too hard on the butt using the "correct" eye for
> the hold" can give you bruises when you fire.

*Not* sure. Shortly, I shall get a neighbour to get my M77 Werndl down
for me to play with: it's sigted to (IIRC) 2,400 paces - you need a neck
like a giraffe to use it at max range - that should be a good test.
Awaiting reply from a vendor of vintage bayonets from whom I hope to get
the correct one for the wbo. (Fits all Austrian Werndl, Werndl Holub and
Mannlicher rifles of the time, viz, 1863/1890, so should be relatively
uncostly. Josef Werndl was primarily a sword and bayonet maker but
branched out and made one of the first (semi) smokeless powder rifles.)

It's such a long time since I've been on the range that I'd just have to
get a rifle in my hands again to see what comes naturally.

Some interfering horsey retirment home bought a plot of land (a long
way) down the line and the range at Horseford was closed for loads of
sand and other improvements to be carried out. I've either got to get
one of my antiques out or borrow back the AirArms rifle I've lent to a
neighbour.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 31/03/2023 12:18, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 11:35:15 +0000, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
>
>> On 24/03/2023 10:51, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>>> Going off at a tangent, are some people 'left-footed' in a similar way
>>> to which some are 'left-handed'?
>>
>> Yes, but: I'm right-footed for kicking purposes, but regarded as
>> left-footed for snowboarding.
>
> Whereas I throw darts right-handed but cricket balls left-handed. When
> 10-pin-bowling I alternate. My right hand is stronger, which means I
> bat left-handed to allow the top hand to do the work.

I used to throw darts right-handed until a match where one threw with
the "wrong" arm, and I threw better as a leftie, so continued to throw
left-handed. I use a cricket bat right-handed but I suspect I should
have used it left-handed.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 31/03/2023 16:07, Pipl wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 10:51:07 +0100, RustyHinge
> <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 31/03/2023 08:53, Ace wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:05:45 +0100, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Most right-handed people use their right eye to aim a rifle,
>>
>> I don't think so.
>
> Sure about that? If you hold a rifle right-handed then it's pretty
> hard to use any sight that's centred on the weapon with the other eye.
> Left handed, if the weapon allows (which excludes the SA80, the old
> 84mm recoiless rifle etc) then you'd have to use your left eye. I'd
> say almost impossible to use the opposite eye with the old SLR. Even
> pressing one's cheek too hard on the butt using the "correct" eye for
> the hold" can give you bruises when you fire.
>
>
I don't know as I don't shoot rifles but I can say that using the
sighting scope on my 4" reflector telescope with my left eye is near
impossible, such that I have had to rotate the main eyepiece to vertical
with the sighting scope horizontal and on the right.

Shotgun can be accommodated with a bent stock but not tried that.

On 31/03/2023 08:34, Ace wrote:
>
> When you hit two rocks together you'd tend to hold the big one with
> your left hand and use the right ohand to hit it precisely with the
> smaller rock.
>
> Which hand do you use to try to unscrew a tight jar lid?

Hold jar with right hand, unscrew with left. Of course, opening the jar
is of secondary importance, not dropping the jar is primary. Plus when
your left hand slips on the serrated grip and really really hurts, it's
only your left hand (sinister people should reverse left and right,
obviously).

When using a Birmingham screwdriver, the reverse is true. Then the
priority is to avoid damaging oneself, while preferably delivering an
effective blow to the object being struck, so the precision hand is used
to deliver the blow and the sacrificial hand to steady the object.

On 31/03/2023 03:20, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 31/03/2023 01:10, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>
>> For classical guitar, the right hand tends to have more precision work
>> to do as the strings must be plucked in the right sequence and in the
>> right time, while the left hand simply moves patterns plus the odd
>> hammer-on and pull-off. I don't think anyone envisaged thousand notes
>> per second death metal guitarists at the time the guitar was invented.
>> See also bowed instruments, where the greater dexterity (sorry) of the
>> right hand enables the bowing to be smooth (except when I try, of
>> course).
>
> Expect an unexpected report as soon as I can find someone who can
> recognise a clarsach in its overcoat and will bring it downstairs with
> them - I'll try to see whether it makes any difference to handedness -
> as far as I'll be able to tell, as my sinisterity has been somewhat
> affected by at least one stroke.
>
> I can't see any reason why it should make a lot of difference as there's
> only one way you *can* hold it innit.
>
> Or is there?

The only things I can see that might be handed are where you put your
head (it's got to be one side or the other really) and which hand would
predominantly take the treble, and which the bass. I think, after a
quick bit of air harp, that I would incline to left hand treble and
right hand bass - it feels more comfortable with my right hand closer to
my body.

On 31/03/2023 10:51, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 31/03/2023 08:53, Ace wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:05:45 +0100, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Most right-handed people use their right eye to aim a rifle,
>
> I don't think so.

Why not? 70% of the population is right-eye dominant, so it seems a
pretty safe bet. Just because you're left eye dominant doesn't mean that
everyone is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocular_dominance

I'm right-handed and was right-eyed when I shot.

On 31/03/2023 20:33, ajh wrote:
>
> I don't know as I don't shoot rifles but I can say that using the
> sighting scope on my 4" reflector telescope with my left eye is near
> impossible, such that I have had to rotate the main eyepiece to vertical
> with the sighting scope horizontal and on the right.

As a right-hander and right-eyer, I was taught to use a microscope with
the left eye if I was drawing something that I was looking at, as then
I'd simultaneously see the subject of my artistry and the drawing that I
was doing of it. Not an easy thing to do.

On 01/04/2023 01:43, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 31/03/2023 20:33, ajh wrote:
>>
>> I don't know as I don't shoot rifles but I can say that using the
>> sighting scope on my 4" reflector telescope with my left eye is near
>> impossible, such that I have had to rotate the main eyepiece to
>> vertical with the sighting scope horizontal and on the right.
>
> As a right-hander and right-eyer, I was taught to use a microscope with
> the left eye if I was drawing something that I was looking at, as then
> I'd simultaneously see the subject of my artistry and the drawing that I
> was doing of it. Not an easy thing to do.

Especially difficult to do with mine: it's binocular, but I do have a
nice old Zeiss if I need to, I suppose

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:34:31 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

> When you hit two rocks together, you'd tend to hold the big one with
> your left hand and use the right hand to hit it precisely with the
> smaller rock.

This is exactly the point made by James Burke (of BBC *Connections* —
1978) in a public address in Denver (promoting his then latest book
*Axemaker's Gift*), which I attended without anything better to do in
Denver.

I bought the book but don't remember much of anything in it about
handedness.

His talk, though, as I recall it (the content of which I am utterly
unable to confirm with any Google links), focused on his speculation
that the rise of tool making led to language acquisition. It was a
stab at the archaeological conundrum about which came first. He
contended that they arose simultaneously. The subject/verb structure
of human language mirrored the left/right brain function of holding
and applying force while working stone age tools.

Language was essential for transferring the knowledge of tool making
and grew from the actual experience: Little left hammer hit big right
rock.

I am pretty sure no other philosophers have tackled that subject, but
I could be wrong.

--
Worst Case

On 28/03/2023 20:03, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 27/03/2023 23:17, Turby wrote:
>> On 3/27/2023 11:35 AM, Turby wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2023 1:44 AM, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/03/2023 10:51, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Going off at a tangent, are some people 'left-footed' in a
>>>>>>>> similar way to which some are 'left-handed'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Better - but I'm just not a sporty person.
>>>
>>> Neither am I. The only sport I competed in was rifle team, in high
>>> school.
>>
>> Correction - I also competed in a few bodysurfing contests. That was
>> mostly for the party vibe, though. At the Pipeline in Hawaii, the
>> chance of ever getting the place good with only 4 other guys out with
>> you is absolutely nil. One year I advanced, so got a dozen waves over
>> 6' Hawaiian, and it only cost me $50. A steal.
>
> Tink I forgot to mention shooting - was in the Vintage Arms Association
> Bury St. Edmunds Pistol team which won one year's 25 yds competition,
> and several of rifle team events (VAA again, various ranges, mainly
> Horsford) where I shot with ·303 P14, ·22 LR Stevens, ·22 Short
> Browning, ·22 LR Martini-Henry target, 11·15mm M77 Werndl, 11mm Mauser
> 71/84, 12-bore Manton of Calcutta (Big Game) and maybe a few more.
>

Just catching up on the conversation here (computer was dead for a while).

I've no idea what I am.

I write left handed (but my writing is mostly illegible these days)
Play guitar, other stringed instruments and drums right handed
Golf right handed
Tennis and other racket sports left handed
Darts left handed
Snooker/pool etc. left handed
I'd kick a ball with my left foot
Archery right handed
Shoot a rifle (left?) handed (LH on the trigger)
Photography, I am left eyed - and this is a real pain. (I just cannot
wink with my left eye)
Scissors right handed (though I can use them with either)
Motorbike don't mind if gear change is on left or right
Can just about start a bike with left foot if the kickstart is on that side.

--
/Simon

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 11:22:39 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>>Back to snowbording though: Champs' point about it being so different
>>from any other activities was what I was getting at; the skills needed
>>go way beyond a dominant eye or hand or even leg strength or
>>dexterity.

>Sure, but he's also said that his own switch riding is relatively ropy
>so there clearly is an inherent preference. Whether or not it's based
>on handed/footednessness was what I was wondering about.

Yebbut, I've leant to board competently (shush now) in a regular
stance, but I was suggesting that, had I started goofy, I'd have to go
to the same level in the same time. It was, however, just a
suggestion, and this thread nicely discusses the complexities which I
had (as usual) ignored
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:34:31 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>Which hand do you use to try to unscrew a tight jar lid?

Jar in left hand, lid in right

I'm right handed

Thinking about it (which, of course, you don't usually do) it
shouldn't make any difference. There's no precision required at
either end, and you just need to twist one against the other
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:53:15 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>>>Not convinced. In general one's non-dominant hand is stronger, so for
>>>most right-handed people it's easier to fret using the left hand than
>>>the right.

Hmm. Took me ages (when I was 15) to get the hang of bar chords

>>Interesting. I think I do have slightly stronger muscles in places on
>>my left, which kind of supports that. But which hand has to be the
>>most dexterous?

>The right one needs to be able to select individual strings with
>individual fingers in traditional 'classical' styles or finger-picking
>like wot I do, or indeed the precise plectrum use of rock lead guitar
>playing.

Hmm x 2. Certainly the way I play guitar <quiet at the back, please>,
the left hand is doing more complicated stuff than the right

>>I would have thought, holding a guitar conventionally,
>>the left, with strumming a relatively simple task for the right,
>
>Naah. Even if you're 'only' strumming it there's still a lot more
>precision about which string(s) you hit first, which you hit hardest,
>particularly so if using fingers rather than a pick.

I respectfully disagree

--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 21:18:59 +0100, siwilson
<siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Just catching up on the conversation here (computer was dead for a while).
>
>I've no idea what I am.
>
>I write left handed (but my writing is mostly illegible these days)
>Play guitar, other stringed instruments and drums right handed
>Golf right handed
>Tennis and other racket sports left handed
>Darts left handed
>Snooker/pool etc. left handed
>I'd kick a ball with my left foot
>Archery right handed
>Shoot a rifle (left?) handed (LH on the trigger)
>Photography, I am left eyed - and this is a real pain. (I just cannot
>wink with my left eye)
>Scissors right handed (though I can use them with either)
>Motorbike don't mind if gear change is on left or right
>Can just about start a bike with left foot if the kickstart is on that side.

Ah, yes, there is a word for people like you

Can you guess what it is?
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 03/04/2023 18:14, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:34:31 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>> Which hand do you use to try to unscrew a tight jar lid?
>
> Jar in left hand, lid in right
>
By default, for me, yes.
But these days it can depend on which wrist objects the most :-(

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 03/04/2023 18:18, Champ wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 21:18:59 +0100, siwilson
> <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just catching up on the conversation here (computer was dead for a while).
>>
>> I've no idea what I am.
>>
>> I write left handed (but my writing is mostly illegible these days)
>> Play guitar, other stringed instruments and drums right handed
>> Golf right handed
>> Tennis and other racket sports left handed
>> Darts left handed
>> Snooker/pool etc. left handed
>> I'd kick a ball with my left foot
>> Archery right handed
>> Shoot a rifle (left?) handed (LH on the trigger)
>> Photography, I am left eyed - and this is a real pain. (I just cannot
>> wink with my left eye)
>> Scissors right handed (though I can use them with either)
>> Motorbike don't mind if gear change is on left or right
>> Can just about start a bike with left foot if the kickstart is on that side.
>
> Ah, yes, there is a word for people like you
>
> Can you guess what it is?

I'm too polite to say it.

--
/Simon

On 03/04/2023 21:32, siwilson wrote:
> On 03/04/2023 18:18, Champ wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 21:18:59 +0100, siwilson
>> <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just catching up on the conversation here (computer was dead for a
>>> while).
>>>
>>> I've no idea what I am.
>>>
>>> I write left handed (but my writing is mostly illegible these days)
>>> Play guitar, other stringed instruments and drums right handed
>>> Golf right handed
>>> Tennis and other racket sports left handed
>>> Darts left handed
>>> Snooker/pool etc. left handed
>>> I'd kick a ball with my left foot
>>> Archery right handed
>>> Shoot a rifle (left?) handed (LH on the trigger)
>>> Photography, I am left eyed - and this is a real pain. (I just cannot
>>> wink with my left eye)
>>> Scissors right handed (though I can use them with either)
>>> Motorbike don't mind if gear change is on left or right
>>> Can just about start a bike with left foot if the kickstart is on
>>> that side.
>>
>> Ah, yes, there is a word for people like you
>>
>> Can you guess what it is?
>
> I'm too polite to say it.
>

<thinks> But, if you mean ambidextrous, I don't think I am. There's no
way I can switch most of the things I do.

--
/Simon

On 03/04/2023 18:17, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:53:15 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Not convinced. In general one's non-dominant hand is stronger, so for
>>>> most right-handed people it's easier to fret using the left hand than
>>>> the right.
>
> Hmm. Took me ages (when I was 15) to get the hang of bar chords
>
>>> Interesting. I think I do have slightly stronger muscles in places on
>>> my left, which kind of supports that. But which hand has to be the
>>> most dexterous?
>
>> The right one needs to be able to select individual strings with
>> individual fingers in traditional 'classical' styles or finger-picking
>> like wot I do, or indeed the precise plectrum use of rock lead guitar
>> playing.
>
> Hmm x 2. Certainly the way I play guitar <quiet at the back, please>,
> the left hand is doing more complicated stuff than the right
>
>>> I would have thought, holding a guitar conventionally,
>>> the left, with strumming a relatively simple task for the right,
>>
>> Naah. Even if you're 'only' strumming it there's still a lot more
>> precision about which string(s) you hit first, which you hit hardest,
>> particularly so if using fingers rather than a pick.
>
> I respectfully disagree

There's also the question of timing. Rhythmic accuracy is probably
better using the right than the left hand, which may not be so important
these days but is more so with traditional music and (probably) flamenco.