On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>

>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the late
>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago that
>> it was a losing solution.
>>
> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!

Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.

On 2/27/2023 1:36 AM, %% wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:24:10 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/14/2023 9:57 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:38:28 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/14/2023 10:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:29:43 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/13/2023 5:22 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:18:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:59:52 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), J D Young
>>>>>>>>> <jdyoung2@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would
>>>>>>>>>> accelerate plans to
>>>>>>>>>> buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and
>>>>>>>>>> ports from
>>>>>>>>>> "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its
>>>>>>>>>> influence in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Pacific region.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Laudable.  But will they also be placed along the length of
>>>>>>>>> submarine
>>>>>>>>> cables which could be cut by some enemy, in many locations, so
>>>>>>>>> isolating Oz from the rest of the world?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even if all the submarine cables were all cut in multiple places,
>>>>>>>> we would not be isolated from the rest of the world due to
>>>>>>>> satellites.
>>>>>>>   That is true.  But the cost and queuing would slow things down
>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>> crawl.  Presumably use would be rationed to the benefit of we
>>>>>>> posters
>>>>>>> in aus.politics.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But in times of a real war, would those Satellites survive the
>>>>>> first few hours?
>>>>>  Yep, there will never be a full nuclear holocaust and even
>>>>> if there was, it would never be possible to take out all the
>>>>> satellites anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Possibly be the very first causalities. To prevent return missile
>>>>>> targeting.
>>>>>  Mindlessly pig ignorant. INS alone is all you need to nuke missiles.
>>>
>>>> Not a lot of our birds are on INS.
>>>  BULLSHIT. They have that for when they lose communication
>>> with the satellites, stupid. The accuracy need for a NUKE ICBM
>>> is perfectly adequate with INS.
>>>
>>>> We stopped designing those in the  70's or 80's
>>>  There have been sweet fuck all new nuke
>>> icbms produced since then except by China.
>>>
>>>> and have used less of the old designs for our systems.
>>>  Whose systems ?
>>>
>>>> We still have Subs that have to set positions before firing.
>>>  But most don't.
>>>
>>>> But not very many have to do that.
>>>  So the dregs like that are irrelevant.
>>>
>>>> Most of the very best manufacturers(researchers) are long gone. i.e
>>>> Autonetics INS, Hughs INS Division, Raytheon etc.
>>>  But the sub launched nukes haven't.
>>>
>>>> I still have a tytac of the best one with all moving parts. A
>>>> Nuclear screen in the early days was the tactical answer to both
>>>> incoming ICBM's and blocking/destroying satellite targeting. I
>>>> understand the planners are thinking the same tactics to stop Drone
>>>> Swarms.
>>>  Irrelevant, those aren't nuke icbms.
>>>
>>>> If and when the SHTF, you will find me in the back yard BBQing a
>>>> brisket and imbibing of my favorite drink. I am sure the girls will
>>>> be perusing their bibles. I am sure you are aware of the targeting
>>>> system in the Minuteman system? We put that bird active in about
>>>> 1962 and it has many upgrades since. But it is one of our reliable
>>>> solid repellent go-to birds.
>>>  And INS is all it needs to put a nuke where
>>> it matters if there is no alternative left.
>>>
>>>> You did note that the balloon killers we sent out were heat seekers.
>>>> Which means all of those bogies were producing heat in order to be hit.
>>>  Obviously the payload does that, that's why it has solar panels,
>>> stupid.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> China has plans to step up its presence in the Pacific and
>>>>>>>>>> entered a
>>>>>>>>>> security pact with Solomon Islands last year, raising concerns
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> United States and Australia, who for decades have seen the
>>>>>>>>>> region as
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> sphere of influence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Australia has been looking to boost its defence spending over
>>>>>>>>>> the past
>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>> years, including entering into a deal in 2021 to buy nuclear
>>>>>>>>>> submarines
>>>>>>>>>> from the United States and Britain.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ($1 = 1.4323 Australian dollars)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Reporting by Renju Jose. Editing by Gerry Doyle)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/australia-speed-purchase-sea-mines-034254381.html
>>
>> Yawnnnn..... End of communications with you.
>
> Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.

Nothing rational there. The dumbass can only retort with "Bullshit" and
the like. You also follow up with reposting that only trashes up the
bandwidth. Now go away and maybe someone will change your diaper in an
act of extreme kindness.

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 03:04:03 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
wrote:

>On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>
>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the late
>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago that
>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>
>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>
>Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
>China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>
The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
so is everyone else's! No winners!
--
Petzl
You funny guy, I'll kill you last.
- Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:04:03 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:

> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>
>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the late
>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago that
>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>
>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>
> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat?

> Not to mention that China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.

Like hell they do. And russia and germany agreed not to attack each other
at one time and a fat lot of use that was when Adolf attacked anyway.

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:12:55 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:

> On 2/27/2023 1:36 AM, %% wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:24:10 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/14/2023 9:57 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:38:28 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/14/2023 10:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:29:43 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/13/2023 5:22 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:18:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:59:52 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), J D Young
>>>>>>>>>> <jdyoung2@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would
>>>>>>>>>>> accelerate plans to
>>>>>>>>>>> buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and
>>>>>>>>>>> ports from
>>>>>>>>>>> "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its
>>>>>>>>>>> influence in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Pacific region.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laudable. But will they also be placed along the length of
>>>>>>>>>> submarine
>>>>>>>>>> cables which could be cut by some enemy, in many locations, so
>>>>>>>>>> isolating Oz from the rest of the world?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even if all the submarine cables were all cut in multiple places,
>>>>>>>>> we would not be isolated from the rest of the world due to
>>>>>>>>> satellites.
>>>>>>>> That is true. But the cost and queuing would slow things down
>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>> crawl. Presumably use would be rationed to the benefit of we
>>>>>>>> posters
>>>>>>>> in aus.politics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But in times of a real war, would those Satellites survive the
>>>>>>> first few hours?
>>>>>> Yep, there will never be a full nuclear holocaust and even
>>>>>> if there was, it would never be possible to take out all the
>>>>>> satellites anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Possibly be the very first causalities. To prevent return missile
>>>>>>> targeting.
>>>>>> Mindlessly pig ignorant. INS alone is all you need to nuke
>>>>>> missiles.
>>>>
>>>>> Not a lot of our birds are on INS.
>>>> BULLSHIT. They have that for when they lose communication
>>>> with the satellites, stupid. The accuracy need for a NUKE ICBM
>>>> is perfectly adequate with INS.
>>>>
>>>>> We stopped designing those in the 70's or 80's
>>>> There have been sweet fuck all new nuke
>>>> icbms produced since then except by China.
>>>>
>>>>> and have used less of the old designs for our systems.
>>>> Whose systems ?
>>>>
>>>>> We still have Subs that have to set positions before firing.
>>>> But most don't.
>>>>
>>>>> But not very many have to do that.
>>>> So the dregs like that are irrelevant.
>>>>
>>>>> Most of the very best manufacturers(researchers) are long gone. i.e
>>>>> Autonetics INS, Hughs INS Division, Raytheon etc.
>>>> But the sub launched nukes haven't.
>>>>
>>>>> I still have a tytac of the best one with all moving parts. A
>>>>> Nuclear screen in the early days was the tactical answer to both
>>>>> incoming ICBM's and blocking/destroying satellite targeting. I
>>>>> understand the planners are thinking the same tactics to stop Drone
>>>>> Swarms.
>>>> Irrelevant, those aren't nuke icbms.
>>>>
>>>>> If and when the SHTF, you will find me in the back yard BBQing a
>>>>> brisket and imbibing of my favorite drink. I am sure the girls will
>>>>> be perusing their bibles. I am sure you are aware of the targeting
>>>>> system in the Minuteman system? We put that bird active in about
>>>>> 1962 and it has many upgrades since. But it is one of our reliable
>>>>> solid repellent go-to birds.
>>>> And INS is all it needs to put a nuke where
>>>> it matters if there is no alternative left.
>>>>
>>>>> You did note that the balloon killers we sent out were heat seekers.
>>>>> Which means all of those bogies were producing heat in order to be
>>>>> hit.
>>>> Obviously the payload does that, that's why it has solar panels,
>>>> stupid.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> China has plans to step up its presence in the Pacific and
>>>>>>>>>>> entered a
>>>>>>>>>>> security pact with Solomon Islands last year, raising concerns
>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>> United States and Australia, who for decades have seen the
>>>>>>>>>>> region as
>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>> sphere of influence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Australia has been looking to boost its defence spending over
>>>>>>>>>>> the past
>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>> years, including entering into a deal in 2021 to buy nuclear
>>>>>>>>>>> submarines
>>>>>>>>>>> from the United States and Britain.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ($1 = 1.4323 Australian dollars)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Reporting by Renju Jose. Editing by Gerry Doyle)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/australia-speed-purchase-sea-mines-034254381.html
>>>
>>> Yawnnnn..... End of communications with you.
>> Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.

> Nothing rational there.

What I said, fuckwit child.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 23:14:31 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 03:04:03 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>
>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the
>>>> late
>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago that
>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>
>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>
>> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
>> China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>>
> The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
> There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
> determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
> so is everyone else's! No winners!

There will always be plenty of survivors. It isnt actually physically
possible kill everyone even if all nukes are launched and most
make it to their targets.

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:14:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 23:14:31 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 03:04:03 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>>
>>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the
>>>>> late
>>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago that
>>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>>
>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>
>>> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
>>> China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>>>
>> The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
>> There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
>> determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
>> so is everyone else's! No winners!
>
>There will always be plenty of survivors. It isnt actually physically
>possible kill everyone even if all nukes are launched and most
>make it to their targets.
>

Not only the bombing it's the aftermath of M.A.D!
For those unlucky in not dying
<https://www.sciencefocus.com/future-technology/what-would-happen-if-all-the-nuclear-bombs-were-detonated/>
https://tinyurl.com/2e6mavzt
The huge volume of debris injected into the atmosphere would have far
more widespread effects. This ‘aerosol’ of particles would reduce the
amount of heat reaching the surface from the Sun, producing a
so-called nuclear winter with huge environmental impact. The nuclear
explosion would also unleash a pulse of electromagnetic energy that
would wreck everything from national power grids to microchips around
the world.
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

PaxPerPoten the retarded septic scumbag trash troll emptied it bowel all
over Usenet.

> beg for Euthanasia.

You should...by being drawn and quartered, slowly...that is what you
actually deserve.
But sadly all I can offer you is a permanent accommodation at the bottom
of my bozo bin. Enjoy!

^^^^^ P...L...O...N...K ^^^^^

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:22:47 AM UTC+11, Ördög wrote:
> J D Young posting all over the place
>
> > SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would accelerate plans to
> > buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and ports from
> > "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its influence in the
> > Pacific region.
> >
> One more totally unnecessary bullshit for pretend soldiers playing
> warmongering mind games at the peace loving taxpayers' expense.

It is natural for enemies of our society who sympathise with brutal foreign dictatorial regimes to be outraged at any step that Australia takes to increase its strength and ability to fight off those dictatorial regimes.

These enemies of Australia have similarly degraded Radio Australia and other efforts made by Australia to share culture, knowledge and awareness of human rights and freedoms among our neighbouring countries.

Within Australia the same enemies of Australia are currently engaged on a campaign of white-anting Australian sovereignty so that foreign dictatorial regimes can gain influence and takeover parts of Australia piecemeal - you can't go anywhere now without seeing taxpayer funded organisations trying to assert the fiction that other "nations" exist within Australia and that parts of Australia are no longer "New South Wales", but instead are to be referred to using fictional labels such as "Gadigal Land".

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 07:23:33 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 05:14:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 23:14:31 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 03:04:03 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>>>
>>>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the
>>>>>> late
>>>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>>
>>>> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>>>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
>>>> China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>>>>
>>> The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
>>> There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
>>> determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
>>> so is everyone else's! No winners!
>>
>> There will always be plenty of survivors. It isnt actually physically
>> possible kill everyone even if all nukes are launched and most
>> make it to their targets.
>>

> Not only the bombing it's the aftermath of M.A.D!

Not going to kill everyone.

> For those unlucky in not dying
> <https://www.sciencefocus.com/future-technology/what-would-happen-if-all-the-nuclear-bombs-were-detonated/>
> https://tinyurl.com/2e6mavzt
> The huge volume of debris injected into the atmosphere would have far
> more widespread effects. This ‘aerosol’ of particles would reduce the
> amount of heat reaching the surface from the Sun, producing a
> so-called nuclear winter with huge environmental impact.

But still wouldnt kill everyone in the southern hemisphere.

> The nuclear
> explosion would also unleash a pulse of electromagnetic energy that
> would wreck everything from national power grids to microchips around
> the world.

That last is complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 11:54:35 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>>>>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
>>>>> China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>>>>>
>>>> The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
>>>> There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
>>>> determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
>>>> so is everyone else's! No winners!
>>>
>>> There will always be plenty of survivors. It isnt actually physically
>>> possible kill everyone even if all nukes are launched and most
>>> make it to their targets.
>>>
>
>> Not only the bombing it's the aftermath of M.A.D!
>
>Not going to kill everyone.
>
Not what the science states for a full scale nuclear attack, where all
"19,000 nuclear warheads" are fired from land, sea and aircraft within
minutes of each other. Followed up by Submarine'
That is what the nuclear footballs will demands, Putin even takes his
to the shitter, Biden wouldn't know where his is?

>> For those unlucky in not dying
>> <https://www.sciencefocus.com/future-technology/what-would-happen-if-all-the-nuclear-bombs-were-detonated/>
>> https://tinyurl.com/2e6mavzt
>> The huge volume of debris injected into the atmosphere would have far
>> more widespread effects. This ‘aerosol’ of particles would reduce the
>> amount of heat reaching the surface from the Sun, producing a
>> so-called nuclear winter with huge environmental impact.
>
>But still wouldnt kill everyone in the southern hemisphere.
>
It will be nuked also, there are submarines and warships with nuclear
weapons in the southern hemisphere. There will be no safe harbour's
for them.

>> The nuclear
>> explosion would also unleash a pulse of electromagnetic energy that
>> would wreck everything from national power grids to microchips around
>> the world.
>
>That last is complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>
Written by Nuclear scientists with doctorates?
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China
>>>>>> purchasing
>>>>>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
>>>>> There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
>>>>> determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
>>>>> so is everyone else's! No winners!
>>>>
>>>> There will always be plenty of survivors. It isnt actually physically
>>>> possible kill everyone even if all nukes are launched and most
>>>> make it to their targets.
>>>>
>>
>>> Not only the bombing it's the aftermath of M.A.D!

>> Not going to kill everyone.

> Not what the science states for a full scale nuclear attack,

Science in fact says nothing even remotely like that.

> where all
> "19,000 nuclear warheads" are fired from land, sea and aircraft within
> minutes of each other. Followed up by Submarine'
> That is what the nuclear footballs will demands, Putin even takes his
> to the shitter, Biden wouldn't know where his is?

>>> For those unlucky in not dying
>>> <https://www.sciencefocus.com/future-technology/what-would-happen-if-all-the-nuclear-bombs-were-detonated/>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/2e6mavzt
>>> The huge volume of debris injected into the atmosphere would have far
>>> more widespread effects. This ‘aerosol’ of particles would reduce the
>>> amount of heat reaching the surface from the Sun, producing a
>>> so-called nuclear winter with huge environmental impact.
>>
>> But still wouldnt kill everyone in the southern hemisphere.

> It will be nuked also,

In a few places like Pine Gap and Harold Holt,
sure, but most of the capital citys would not be.

> there are submarines

Fuck all with nukes and they can't be nuked
anyway thats the whole point of them.

> and warships with nuclear
> weapons in the southern hemisphere.

Nuking those would have sweet fuck
all effect on the southern hemisphere.

> There will be no safe harbour's
> for them.

Their problem.

>>> The nuclear
>>> explosion would also unleash a pulse of electromagnetic energy that
>>> would wreck everything from national power grids to microchips around
>>> the world.
>>
>> That last is complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

> Written by Nuclear scientists with doctorates?

No nuclear scientist with a doctorate that matters ever claimed that shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse#On_cars

On 2/28/2023 6:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 03:04:03 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>
>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the late
>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago that
>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>
>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>
>> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
>> China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.

??? That doesn't seem to make sense.
>>
> The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
> There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
> determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
> so is everyone else's! No winners!

On 2/28/2023 12:04 PM, %% wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:04:03 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>
>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the late
>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago that
>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>
>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>
>> Why would Russia strike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat?
>
>> Not to mention that China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>
> Like hell they do. And Russia and Germany agreed not to attack each other
> at one time and a fat lot of use that was when Adolf attacked anyway.

Any Nukes in either country would flood both countries and then some.
With the poisonous environment that would drift over the entire region
and much of the planet. Here in middle America we are still infected
with Strontium 90 from world wide nuclear testing. It is is Cows milk
even today from 1950's tests. That makes the nuclear game fair and just
as everyone loses. check out the area in Russia that has been abandoned
and now researchers can spend a couple of hours a week or whatever to
check out plant and animal resurgence since being affkicted with nuclear
poisons

On 2/28/2023 12:07 PM, %% wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:12:55 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/27/2023 1:36 AM, %% wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:24:10 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/14/2023 9:57 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:38:28 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/14/2023 10:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:29:43 +1100, Leper
>>>>>>> <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/13/2023 5:22 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:18:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:59:52 +1100, Peter Jason
>>>>>>>>>> <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), J D Young
>>>>>>>>>>> <jdyoung2@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would
>>>>>>>>>>>> accelerate plans to
>>>>>>>>>>>> buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and
>>>>>>>>>>>> ports from
>>>>>>>>>>>> "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its
>>>>>>>>>>>> influence in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pacific region.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laudable.  But will they also be placed along the length of
>>>>>>>>>>> submarine
>>>>>>>>>>> cables which could be cut by some enemy, in many locations, so
>>>>>>>>>>> isolating Oz from the rest of the world?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even if all the submarine cables were all cut in multiple places,
>>>>>>>>>> we would not be isolated from the rest of the world due to
>>>>>>>>>> satellites.
>>>>>>>>>   That is true.  But the cost and queuing would slow things
>>>>>>>>> down to a
>>>>>>>>> crawl.  Presumably use would be rationed to the benefit of we
>>>>>>>>> posters
>>>>>>>>> in aus.politics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But in times of a real war, would those Satellites survive the
>>>>>>>> first few hours?
>>>>>>>  Yep, there will never be a full nuclear holocaust and even
>>>>>>> if there was, it would never be possible to take out all the
>>>>>>> satellites anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Possibly be the very first causalities. To prevent return
>>>>>>>> missile targeting.
>>>>>>>  Mindlessly pig ignorant. INS alone is all you need to nuke
>>>>>>> missiles.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a lot of our birds are on INS.
>>>>>  BULLSHIT. They have that for when they lose communication
>>>>> with the satellites, stupid. The accuracy need for a NUKE ICBM
>>>>> is perfectly adequate with INS.
>>>>>
>>>>>> We stopped designing those in the  70's or 80's
>>>>>  There have been sweet fuck all new nuke
>>>>> icbms produced since then except by China.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and have used less of the old designs for our systems.
>>>>>  Whose systems ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> We still have Subs that have to set positions before firing.
>>>>>  But most don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But not very many have to do that.
>>>>>  So the dregs like that are irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of the very best manufacturers(researchers) are long gone.
>>>>>> i.e Autonetics INS, Hughs INS Division, Raytheon etc.
>>>>>  But the sub launched nukes haven't.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I still have a tytac of the best one with all moving parts. A
>>>>>> Nuclear screen in the early days was the tactical answer to both
>>>>>> incoming ICBM's and blocking/destroying satellite targeting. I
>>>>>> understand the planners are thinking the same tactics to stop
>>>>>> Drone Swarms.
>>>>>  Irrelevant, those aren't nuke icbms.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If and when the SHTF, you will find me in the back yard BBQing a
>>>>>> brisket and imbibing of my favorite drink. I am sure the girls
>>>>>> will be perusing their bibles. I am sure you are aware of the
>>>>>> targeting system in the Minuteman system? We put that bird active
>>>>>> in about 1962 and it has many upgrades since. But it is one of our
>>>>>> reliable solid repellent go-to birds.
>>>>>  And INS is all it needs to put a nuke where
>>>>> it matters if there is no alternative left.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You did note that the balloon killers we sent out were heat
>>>>>> seekers. Which means all of those bogies were producing heat in
>>>>>> order to be hit.
>>>>>  Obviously the payload does that, that's why it has solar panels,
>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> China has plans to step up its presence in the Pacific and
>>>>>>>>>>>> entered a
>>>>>>>>>>>> security pact with Solomon Islands last year, raising
>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> United States and Australia, who for decades have seen the
>>>>>>>>>>>> region as
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> sphere of influence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia has been looking to boost its defence spending
>>>>>>>>>>>> over the past
>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>> years, including entering into a deal in 2021 to buy nuclear
>>>>>>>>>>>> submarines
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the United States and Britain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ($1 = 1.4323 Australian dollars)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Reporting by Renju Jose. Editing by Gerry Doyle)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/australia-speed-purchase-sea-mines-034254381.html
>>>>
>>>> Yawnnnn..... End of communications with you.
>>>  Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.
>
>> Nothing rational there.
>
> What I said, fuckwit child.
>
> <reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>

With a bit of a bad smell coming from your very ignorant posts....I with
great delight flush your fertilizer stench down the drain. Response not
acceptable!

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 11:26:33 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:

> On 2/28/2023 12:04 PM, %% wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:04:03 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>>
>>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the
>>>>> late
>>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago
>>>>> that
>>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>>
>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>
>>> Why would Russia strike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat?
>>
>>> Not to mention that China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>> Like hell they do. And Russia and Germany agreed not to attack each
>> other
>> at one time and a fat lot of use that was when Adolf attacked anyway.

> Any Nukes in either country would flood both countries and then some.

Bullshit.

> With the poisonous environment that would drift over the entire region

More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

> and much of the planet.

More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

> Here in middle America we are still infected with Strontium 90 from
> world wide nuclear testing.

Not by enough to matter.

> It is is Cows milk even today from 1950's tests.

Not by enough to matter.

> That makes the nuclear game fair and just as everyone loses.

More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

> check out the area in Russia that has been abandoned

But doesnt need to be, just like Chernobyle doesnt need to be.

> and now researchers can spend a couple of hours a week or whatever to
> check out plant and animal resurgence since being affkicted with nuclear
> poisons

How odd that the plants and animals are doing fine, just like at
Chernobyle.

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 11:30:05 +1100, PaxPerPoten <PPP@yale.com> wrote:

> On 2/28/2023 12:07 PM, %% wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:12:55 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/27/2023 1:36 AM, %% wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:24:10 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/14/2023 9:57 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:38:28 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/14/2023 10:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:29:43 +1100, Leper
>>>>>>>> <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/2023 5:22 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:18:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:59:52 +1100, Peter Jason
>>>>>>>>>>> <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), J D Young
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jdyoung2@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accelerate plans to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ports from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> influence in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pacific region.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laudable. But will they also be placed along the length of
>>>>>>>>>>>> submarine
>>>>>>>>>>>> cables which could be cut by some enemy, in many locations, so
>>>>>>>>>>>> isolating Oz from the rest of the world?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even if all the submarine cables were all cut in multiple
>>>>>>>>>>> places,
>>>>>>>>>>> we would not be isolated from the rest of the world due to
>>>>>>>>>>> satellites.
>>>>>>>>>> That is true. But the cost and queuing would slow things
>>>>>>>>>> down to a
>>>>>>>>>> crawl. Presumably use would be rationed to the benefit of we
>>>>>>>>>> posters
>>>>>>>>>> in aus.politics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But in times of a real war, would those Satellites survive the
>>>>>>>>> first few hours?
>>>>>>>> Yep, there will never be a full nuclear holocaust and even
>>>>>>>> if there was, it would never be possible to take out all the
>>>>>>>> satellites anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Possibly be the very first causalities. To prevent return
>>>>>>>>> missile targeting.
>>>>>>>> Mindlessly pig ignorant. INS alone is all you need to nuke
>>>>>>>> missiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not a lot of our birds are on INS.
>>>>>> BULLSHIT. They have that for when they lose communication
>>>>>> with the satellites, stupid. The accuracy need for a NUKE ICBM
>>>>>> is perfectly adequate with INS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We stopped designing those in the 70's or 80's
>>>>>> There have been sweet fuck all new nuke
>>>>>> icbms produced since then except by China.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and have used less of the old designs for our systems.
>>>>>> Whose systems ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We still have Subs that have to set positions before firing.
>>>>>> But most don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But not very many have to do that.
>>>>>> So the dregs like that are irrelevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of the very best manufacturers(researchers) are long gone.
>>>>>>> i.e Autonetics INS, Hughs INS Division, Raytheon etc.
>>>>>> But the sub launched nukes haven't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still have a tytac of the best one with all moving parts. A
>>>>>>> Nuclear screen in the early days was the tactical answer to both
>>>>>>> incoming ICBM's and blocking/destroying satellite targeting. I
>>>>>>> understand the planners are thinking the same tactics to stop
>>>>>>> Drone Swarms.
>>>>>> Irrelevant, those aren't nuke icbms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If and when the SHTF, you will find me in the back yard BBQing a
>>>>>>> brisket and imbibing of my favorite drink. I am sure the girls
>>>>>>> will be perusing their bibles. I am sure you are aware of the
>>>>>>> targeting system in the Minuteman system? We put that bird active
>>>>>>> in about 1962 and it has many upgrades since. But it is one of our
>>>>>>> reliable solid repellent go-to birds.
>>>>>> And INS is all it needs to put a nuke where
>>>>>> it matters if there is no alternative left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You did note that the balloon killers we sent out were heat
>>>>>>> seekers. Which means all of those bogies were producing heat in
>>>>>>> order to be hit.
>>>>>> Obviously the payload does that, that's why it has solar panels,
>>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> China has plans to step up its presence in the Pacific and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entered a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> security pact with Solomon Islands last year, raising
>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> United States and Australia, who for decades have seen the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> region as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sphere of influence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia has been looking to boost its defence spending
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the past
>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>> years, including entering into a deal in 2021 to buy nuclear
>>>>>>>>>>>>> submarines
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the United States and Britain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ($1 = 1.4323 Australian dollars)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Reporting by Renju Jose. Editing by Gerry Doyle)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/australia-speed-purchase-sea-mines-034254381.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Yawnnnn..... End of communications with you.
>>>> Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.
>>
>>> Nothing rational there.
>>
>> What I said, fuckwit child.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

> Response not acceptable!

Like it or lump it.

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 18:08:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
wrote:

>On 2/28/2023 6:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 03:04:03 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>>
>>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the late
>>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago that
>>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>>
>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>
>>> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
>>> China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>
>??? That doesn't seem to make sense.
>
Does it have to?
China is very good friends with the USA as long as they do what China
tells you to do, the same for Russia and every one else (as long as
they do what they are told).
If you have a nuclear war contained to surface areas of Russia/USA you
think want China or any other nuclear power to take over the world?
America would be left with sticks and stones to fight off Johnny come
lately's
That is what the military think so if you get involved in M.A.D the
whole world goes.

>>>
>> The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
>> There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
>> determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
>> so is everyone else's! No winners!
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 14:59:45 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 18:08:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/28/2023 6:14 AM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 03:04:03 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>>>
>>>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the
>>>>>> late
>>>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>>
>>>> Why would Russia stike China, when Russia depends on China purchasing
>>>> enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat? Not to mention that
>>>> China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>>
>> ??? That doesn't seem to make sense.

> Does it have to?

Yep.

> China is very good friends with the USA

It never is.

> as long as they do what China
> tells you to do,

That makes no sense either.

> the same for Russia and every one else (as long as
> they do what they are told).

They never do.

> If you have a nuclear war contained to surface areas of Russia/USA you
> think want China or any other nuclear power to take over the world?

You previously stupidly claimed that it would be all over for everyone
else as soon as Russia and the USA nuked each other

> America would be left with sticks and stones to fight off Johnny come
> lately's

BULLSHIT. And why would any Johnny come lately actually
be stupid enough to try invading a devestated USA anyway ?

Yes, much of China and Japan's export markets would be
gone, but they would be no worse off then they were just
after WW2 had ended and could carry on regardless fine
and accept the fact that significant numbers would not
live as long due to radioactive fallout and crop devestation
due to a nuclear winter in the northern hemisphere but they
got a much worse result than that in WW2 and managed to
survive that anyway. They certainly wouldn't be invading
the USA or russia either.

> That is what the military think

BULLSHIT.

> so if you get involved in M.A.D the
> whole world goes.

Not even possible to nuke everything so everyone dies in minutes
or even months.

>>> The scene instantly changes in a Russia/USA nuclear response.
>>> There is no time to second guess, the response has already been
>>> determined Just becomes a M.A.D situation, your death is accepted and
>>> so is everyone else's! No winners!

In article <op.105xvoeubyq249@pvr2.lan>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> > China is very good friends with the USA
>
> It never is.

We like each other's money. As Melania will tell you, that is the
firmest foundation for a beautiful friendship.

--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
Discordia: not just a religion but also a parody. This post / \
I am an Andrea Chen sockpuppet. insults Islam. Mohammed

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 16:08:02 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> China is very good friends with the USA
>
>It never is.
>
I were being facetious
--
Petzl
You funny guy, I'll kill you last.
- Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

On 3/1/2023 7:47 PM, %% wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 11:26:33 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/28/2023 12:04 PM, %% wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:04:03 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>>>
>>>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now a
>>>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the
>>>>>> late
>>>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>>
>>>> Why would Russia strike China, when Russia depends on China
>>>> purchasing enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat?
>>>
>>>> Not to mention that China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>>>  Like hell they do. And Russia and Germany agreed not to attack each
>>> other
>>> at one time and a fat lot of use that was when Adolf attacked anyway.
>
>> Any Nukes in either country would flood both countries and then some.
>
> Bullshit.
>
>> With the poisonous environment that would drift over the entire region
>
> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>
>> and much of the planet.
>
> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>
>> Here in middle America we are still infected with Strontium 90 from
>> world wide nuclear testing.
>
> Not by enough to matter.
>
>> It is is Cows milk even today from 1950's tests.
>
> Not by enough to matter.
>
>> That makes the nuclear game fair and just as everyone loses.
>
> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>
>> check out the area in Russia that has been abandoned
>
> But doesnt need to be, just like Chernobyle doesnt need to be.
>
>> and now researchers can spend a couple of hours a week or whatever to
>> check out plant and animal resurgence since being affkicted with
>> nuclear poisons
>
> How odd that the plants and animals are doing fine, just like at
> Chernobyle.

Your migration to live in Chernobyl is acceptable to me. Even the
Russians don't accept that Chernobyl's plant and wild life are doing
nfine. That nuclear infestation at Chernobyl was very minor in
comparison with the purposeful detonation of such real weapons..Nation
to Nation et. al. Your further ignorant posts are now filtered here.

On Fri, 03 Mar 2023 20:04:55 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com> wrote:

> On 3/1/2023 7:47 PM, %% wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 11:26:33 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/28/2023 12:04 PM, %% wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:04:03 +1100, Leper <Leper@malokaicolony.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/26/2023 11:23 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:56:14 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree. EMP would definitely kill an INS guidance as they are now
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> solid state electronics device. We stop mechanical INS back in the
>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>> 50's and 60's. Shielding might help some, but we decided long ago
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it was a losing solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> China will be targeted by BOTH the U.S.A and Russia
>>>>>> Will be over with no survivors worldwide in minutes!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would Russia strike China, when Russia depends on China
>>>>> purchasing enough oil etc to keep the Russian economy afloat?
>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention that China and Russian have a mutual defense pact.
>>>> Like hell they do. And Russia and Germany agreed not to attack each
>>>> other
>>>> at one time and a fat lot of use that was when Adolf attacked anyway.
>>
>>> Any Nukes in either country would flood both countries and then some.
>> Bullshit.
>>
>>> With the poisonous environment that would drift over the entire region
>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>
>>> and much of the planet.
>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>
>>> Here in middle America we are still infected with Strontium 90 from
>>> world wide nuclear testing.
>> Not by enough to matter.
>>
>>> It is is Cows milk even today from 1950's tests.
>> Not by enough to matter.
>>
>>> That makes the nuclear game fair and just as everyone loses.
>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>
>>> check out the area in Russia that has been abandoned
>> But doesnt need to be, just like Chernobyle doesnt need to be.
>>
>>> and now researchers can spend a couple of hours a week or whatever to
>>> check out plant and animal resurgence since being affkicted with
>>> nuclear poisons

>> How odd that the plants and animals are doing fine, just like at
>> Chernobyle.

> Your migration to live in Chernobyl is acceptable to me.

You are pathetic.

> Even the Russians don't accept that Chernobyl's plant and wild life are
> doing nfine.

BULLSHIT.

> That nuclear infestation at Chernobyl was very minor in comparison with
> the purposeful detonation of such real weapons..Nation to Nation et. al.

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 03:49:57 +1100, chop <chop654@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> That makes the nuclear game fair and just as everyone loses.
>>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>>
>>>> check out the area in Russia that has been abandoned
>>> But doesnt need to be, just like Chernobyle doesnt need to be.
>>>
>>>> and now researchers can spend a couple of hours a week or whatever to
>>>> check out plant and animal resurgence since being affkicted with
>>>> nuclear poisons
>
>>> How odd that the plants and animals are doing fine, just like at
>>> Chernobyle.
>
>> Your migration to live in Chernobyl is acceptable to me.
>
>You are pathetic.
>
>> Even the Russians don't accept that Chernobyl's plant and wild life are
>> doing nfine.
>
>BULLSHIT.
>
Remember seeing "The Grand Tour" going through Chernobyl, didn't see
anyone living there? But here's Jeremy Clarkson's take.
https://youtu.be/uTSSmV4QQ4Q

>> That nuclear infestation at Chernobyl was very minor in comparison with
>> the purposeful detonation of such real weapons..Nation to Nation et. al.
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 08:42:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 03:49:57 +1100, chop <chop654@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> That makes the nuclear game fair and just as everyone loses.
>>>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> check out the area in Russia that has been abandoned
>>>> But doesnt need to be, just like Chernobyle doesnt need to be.
>>>>
>>>>> and now researchers can spend a couple of hours a week or whatever to
>>>>> check out plant and animal resurgence since being affkicted with
>>>>> nuclear poisons
>>
>>>> How odd that the plants and animals are doing fine, just like at
>>>> Chernobyle.
>>
>>> Your migration to live in Chernobyl is acceptable to me.
>>
>> You are pathetic.
>>
>>> Even the Russians don't accept that Chernobyl's plant and wild life are
>>> doing nfine.
>>
>> BULLSHIT.

> Remember seeing "The Grand Tour" going through Chernobyl, didn't see
> anyone living there?

There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
living there and the plants and animals doing fine.

> But here's Jeremy Clarkson's take.
> https://youtu.be/uTSSmV4QQ4Q

>>> That nuclear infestation at Chernobyl was very minor in comparison with
>>> the purposeful detonation of such real weapons..Nation to Nation et.
>>> al.